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So what is your point Nick? Some are expendable while others are not! Yes 100 is a long life. My guess she led a healthy life and had good genetics. No life is expendable. Black, white, brown, old, young, male, female. If an unborn life is precious and should be saved doesn't a 100 yr old woman deserve the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
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Ok Mush, any state that inflates numbers is ****ed. Any state that lies about numbers is ****ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
There are deaths reported as covid that are not, that is ****ed. But there are tons that are not and that is more ****ed.
The virus has different attack plans. Some people get more URTI signs and some get heart issues.
Now, let's talk about cases that are reported that were not covid. If a person has diabetes and dies from complications of diabetes while they are fighting covid, do you consider that death to be caused by covid?
I do. The body's effort to fight the virus took away it's ability to deal with the preexisting condition.
Many of the "inflated numbers" have to do with that type of situation. Someone who dies from the underlying disease they had but who were infected.
Did they die from the disease? No.
Did the disease weaken the body to the point it couldn't fight both things? Yes.
I think reporting that as a death by covid to be less egregious and more accurate, than hiding numbers.
Mush, please think. The reason we are doing ok with this and the reason the curve flattened was because the governors took action and followed what Italy and other countries did. We locked down. That is the only reason we are remotely ok.
Here is a another direct question. If the hospitals were over run and a kid had an anaphylactic shock reaction and went to the hospital but had to wait too long to be seen and died because the place was over rune with covid patients and had no drs to help, would you consider that a covid related death?
I would.
Thankfully it hasn't gotten to that point but it still could. Until it dies out, which it could or we get immunity which could take years, it could still happen.
Do you even read what you write, or is it a stream of consciousness from mind to fingers to pixels?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
NO ONE on this board has politicized this event more than you. You are constantly drawing up sides and pitting one against the other. Good guys and bad guys.
I admit, I am guilty as well for my attacks on the orange dotard. However I don't ***** and moan about the politicization!
Raise capital gains taxes 5% on hedge funds for a couple years?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Increase all of our taxes a little bit this year and use them properly?
Remember, you said we are all in this together, so that should mean, you'd be willing to pay a little more to help out another human.
Increase jobs helping the infrastructure, both technological and groundwork
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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
Raising taxes and using them properly are an oxymoron . And how do you expect everyone to “step up” and pay higher taxes when you got 1/5 of the population with little to no taxable income to help pay for the trillions that you have no problem printing out? Don’t forget the unemployment rate is close to 20% right now . And will go higher over the next several months if the economy doesn’t get restarted big time .
Instead of placing the burden on the working class, maybe, just maybe the vast majority, that have essentially paid ZERO income tax, might consider paying up? Getting large multi nationals corps and billionaires to pay a fair share could in itself generate $2T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
How about insisting the fossil fuel industry pay for their pollution and eliminating federal fossil fuel subsidies.
Just a start.
Oh I agree with that but unfortunately those are the same people who control BOTH sides of the government . Got better chances of squeezing water out of a rock than getting all of the rich to pay higher taxes .Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Why are you for taxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Tax and spend never works either Dr.
The virus isn’t as bad as it is being made out to be , the only reason why it’s worse than the flu is how easy it is to transmit . I mean for example. , yes there are about 45k cases of the virus here in Florida but only about 9000 of those cases required hospitalization .Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Rewrite the tax code! Neither D's nor R's have the balls to alienate their donors! (except Bernie). Simply eliminating the myriad of loopholes would generate huge revenue. Flat tax proposals in the past have gained little traction, but clearly are a step toward a more equitable system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
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Originally Posted by drt1010
You are missing the point Dr.
The headline really focused just on COVID-19 and the 100 years old was basically in small print.
No Nick I am for a more EQUITABLE tax system, one in which corporate billionaires pay a fair and reasonable number, one that amounts to more than ZERO.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Yeah and Who rewriteS the tax code? The senators and congressmen. The same ones who are funded and controlled by the ones who would be hurt the most by the rewritten codeQuote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Am I? Not from my perspective. You clearly made it seem as if shes old and going to die soon why record the case as Covid?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy