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Originally Posted by Posada20

Won’t doing nothing about China just encourage them to do worse since they went unpunished for it?

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Remember the Versailles treaty ? And it's ramifications

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

So instead you do nothing? I don't think so. If this was done on purpose, something drastic should certainly be done to the offender(s).

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Your desire for justice is understandable.. Yet, thinking while angry has poor results. The solution will not be one that punishes them because they at best may become more secretive or at worst belligerent.

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Originally Posted by dayners81

How in the world are you going to tell China that they have to figure out a way to stop what their starving can eat? can u imagine if another country told us we needed to stop eating deer, salmon or something many poorer people in rural regions of our country hunting or catch to depend on to feed their families?

They eat many things that we in this country wouldn't even dream of eating but the point is the same

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Yeah and it’s time the UN does it’s damned job for once and start enforcing laws , like lab animals shouldn’t be sold in the meat markets , and certain animals should not be consumed like bats and primates , and pangolins . And it’s a fact that pangolins which are heavily used in China and Europe carry corona viruses.

https://www.sciencealert.com/coronav...er-regulations

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Yeah and it’s time the UN does it’s damned job for once and start enforcing laws , like lab animals shouldn’t be sold in the meat markets , and certain animals should not be consumed like bats and primates , and pangolins . And it’s a fact that pangolins which are heavily used in China and Europe carry corona viruses.

https://www.sciencealert.com/coronav...er-regulations

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And again how do you sanction the world's second largest economy. The second they raise the cost of your made in China goods you will be freaking out more then you are now.

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Originally Posted by flimflamman

Your desire for justice is understandable.. Yet, thinking while angry has poor results. The solution will not be one that punishes them because they at best may become more secretive or at worst belligerent.

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I'm not angry. I simply think your logic is weak.

"Let's literally let them get away with mass murder because we're worried that they'll do it again....and maybe worse!"

Having said that, it certainly hasn't been proven that this was done on purpose, so I'm only speaking in hypotheticals.

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Originally Posted by flimflamman

And again how do you sanction the world's second largest economy. The second they raise the cost of your made in China goods you will be freaking out more then you are now.

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Something has to be done. You can't continue allowing China to subsidize their citizens to harvest wildlife that carries life threatening illnesses. These are just the diseases they know about as well. As we know, viruses continue to mutate.

That's above my pay grade but the UN needs to intervene.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

They have to discourage their government from subsidizing animals being bred that are not meant for consumption. I'm aware Asian people eat things that Americans wouldn't dream of btw. I've vacationed in Japan and Thailand before.

This is the second time China has run into this and they were lucky SARS didn't spread on a wider scale because its a much deadlier disease than COVID-19. Something has to change and its not just the response. Like I said introduce them to processed foods. We do it in this country. I understand it won't be an easy process but the alternative is this or worse.

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I wasn't trying to be insulting towards you, i was just stating it won't be as easily said as done. Sure they can discourage it but telling starving people not to eat something they regularly do is going to be challenging to say the least unless China is going to start supplying people with food.

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Originally Posted by dayners81

I wasn't trying to be insulting towards you, i was just stating it won't be as easily said as done. Sure they can discourage it but telling starving people not to eat something they regularly do is going to be challenging to say the least unless China is going to start supplying people with food.

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Absolutely and I understand its a lot easier said than done feeding 1.4 billion people. That said, something has to change. Chinese people need to understand they are putting themselves and the whole world in danger eating animals not meant for consumption.

If this happens again, we might not be so lucky where only 100,000s of thousands of people die. Its hard for me to even type that considering how disgusting of a thought it is but you get my point. The next time it could some super virus immune to treatment and vaccination that could wipe out millions of people.

I only mentioned the UN due to their global authority. Condemnation from them may carry more clout collectively, also relieves the US from having to play antagonist.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

I'm not angry. I simply think your logic is weak.

"Let's literally let them get away with mass murder because we're worried that they'll do it again....and maybe worse!"

Having said that, it certainly hasn't been proven that this was done on purpose, so I'm only speaking in hypotheticals.

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I'm saying a solution does not have to punitive. They have suffered as well. If things have to be done to help them prevent this, yes. But to punish them will make it worse the next time.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Exactly. That's because this wasn't created in some lab. People love conspiracy theories. This isn't an act of biogenic warfare. Its an act of irresponsible eating habits that have to change. I understand China needs to feed 1.4 billion people but they have to find another way. Eat highly processed foods like Americans do and die of heart disease in 30-40 years.

**** this **** where you're eating bats, rats, and all these disease carrying animals that are not meant to be consumed.

They're on a mission to let out some ****ing super virus that kills half the world's population. I don't know what the rest of the world can threaten China with but they can't let this happen again.

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We could just nuke the **** out of their entire country :shrug:

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Treatment of 5 Critically Ill Patients With COVID-19 With Convalescent Plasma
JAMA. Published online March 27, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.4783

In this uncontrolled case series of 5 critically ill patients with COVID-19 and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), administration of convalescent plasma containing neutralizing antibody was followed by an improvement in clinical status.
5 critically ill COVID patients (on ventilators) received antibody-rich plasma from 5 other patients who had recovered from COVID.

Results: 3 discharged; 2 in stable condition!

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...?resultClick=1

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Sweet. Do this for every patient and we can be back to normal by Easter!

Kushner Puts Himself in the Middle of the White House’s Chaotic Coronavirus Response
President Trump’s son-in-law has become a central player in the White House effort to curb the pandemic. But critics say he is part of the problem.

By Peter Baker, Maggie Haberman, Zolan Kanno-Youngs and Noah Weiland
April 2, 2020
Updated 5:05 p.m. ET

At one of the most perilous moments in modern American history, Mr. Kushner is trying in a disjointed White House to marshal the forces of government for the war his father-in-law says he is waging. A real estate developer with none of the medical expertise of a public health official nor the mobilization experience of a general, Mr. Kushner has nonetheless become a key player in the response to the pandemic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/u...rus-trump.html

My brother in law already got his stimulus deposit today. Guess they're going on pretty quickly.

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