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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Those darned liberal run states!

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I don’t think he was getting at that, I think he was just pointing out the areas that have seen the most violence (and where police have been told to stand down)


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Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22

Yes and he is showing love and compassion to the 85% of people that are tired of this pointless rioting. Too many innocent ppl are being impacted... time to get back to normal life.


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Trump? Love and compassion? :laugh2:

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Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22

I don’t think he was getting at that, I think he was just pointing out the areas that have seen the most violence (and where police have been told to stand down)


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Ssuurree

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Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22

No one is saying to protect the bad cops and no one is saying not to protest. Protest all u want but don’t kill people, not destroy buildings and private property, and don’t lite stuff on fire.

What more do u guys want? The cop and his helpers were charged for the death of George Floyd. But they still want to destroy and steal things. They still want to shoot and stab the police. At what point does the chaos stop?


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Is it just a coincidence that atleast most of the worst rioting and destruction have been in states with Democrat governors and/or mayors?

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Trump? Love and compassion? :laugh2:

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Tell me how is it showing love and compassion by saying “ we are hurting with you and are with you” and then telling your police to stand down , all while your cities are being looted and burned down ?

:facepalm:

A very good friend is a photo journalist in NYC. He is a not a man who embellishes and he understands both sides of this situation and has seen both good and bad from both sides.

His comments last night were, he has never seen the NYPD storm troopers out to harm until the last couple nights and before the curfew. He said they are surrounding groups who are completely peaceful at 7 pm and basically closing the circle with force. The are swinging at heads.

They aren't doing it to the violent and destructive people. They are doing it to the peaceful ones.

Consider that for a moment. Consider what message that sends.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Moderate and Democrat goes together like oil and water

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Like intelligent conservatives?

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Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22

Not me. That guy is a spineless piece of human trash.

https://youtu.be/JLfIPiqbRRs


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Spineless is the man in our office who blusters threats of military because he's too stupid to find a peaceful solution
Spineless is continually lying
Spineless is threatening the very people you swore to protect
Spineless is using racial slurs and pejorative terms to insult other politicians
Spineless is blaming the rest of the world for your failures
Spineless is not taking accountability for your actions
Spineless is hiding in a bunker. Then saying you didn't. Then saying you did. And tweeting that your dogs and ominous weapons would hurt people at the very least.
Spineless is pretending to be strong when you are in fact, very weak.
Spineless blindly following that type of individual

Ignorant and foolish is calling someone spineless because they display, intellect, diplomacy and compassion rather than buffoonery

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Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22

Omg... u said thugs. This guy is a racist! Just like Trump... basically said the N* word!


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Interesting parallel you use between thugs and the n word.

I think of thugs as people like trump. People that use force and fear to get what they want. Be it a tv or a cheeseburger for his fat arse.
You think of them as people of color.

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Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22

Well it’s the first time u asked but I don’t have a problem with it.


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No. It wasn't

But thank you for the honesty.

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Originally Posted by RCSownsU

'Liberals' and even progressives in the US would be considered middle/right center in a majority of other countries, and right wing in some.

That's how 'unprogressive' the United States is.

It's okay, guys like bezos needs billions of dollars that he will never spend(yes I'm aware much of it is tied up in stocks). But a fair share of Americans(many in republican states, more so than democratic run states) are struggling to make ends meet.

I've been a fiscal conservative for 34 years, it's how I was raised. But, seeing how the status quo has not helped, I'm open to change.

Republicans don't save the country money, they just use the time and time again **failed** trickle economics that never work for more then a few years.

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The sad truth is those labels are the root of all of this. I would say Doc and Metswon are the most liberal, but they are not like Bernie Sanders liberal. I am liberal but I am very close to the center. You are probably just the opposite, very in the center but just a bit conservative. Then Day, and FlimFlam, SPliff, 28 all fall in the center but slightly to one side or the other.
All of us see the need for change. We may not all agree on every aspect of things but we all see the need for change.
You, Flimflam, Day are now being called liberal. That seesaw is getting less and less balanced as this who call you guys liberal, have to go to closer to the end of the seesaw and become more entrenched in the extremest view.
To balance them out, all of us have to lean a bit more.

So to me
The term liberal in this country has become someone who wants social change. Someone who wants all people to have an even field.
People who want change to make all better off even if it means they sacrifice a little.
People who see the racism and sexism inherent in our political and social systems and want to change them

Liberal now means change. Democrats now mean liberal

Conservative is the refusal to change those things because of fear or inconvenience.
I call Trumps base racist because they are beholden to upholding a system that they, on some level know, gives them significant advantages over people of color. They are complicit be it through fear or hate.

We have one group that wants change and one that doesn't

I get it. I understand why people feel that way. I truly understand why people are so supportive of him. But their idea of MAGA is going back to another time. We can't. We can only go forward and going forward means change.
We have to change. That is not liberal or conservative.
It is human decency

Well said clown. :clap:

So true, at this juncture it ain't about liberal or conservative. It's about decency, respect and tolerance.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Tell me how is it showing love and compassion by saying “ we are hurting with you and are with you” and then telling your police to stand down , all while your cities are being looted and burned down ?

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Andrew Cuomo
@NYGovCuomo
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First, the president started the fire. He keeps adding fuel.

Now, he wants credit for attempting to put it out.

Meanwhile the house is burning.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Andrew Cuomo
@NYGovCuomo
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First, the president started the fire. He keeps adding fuel.

Now, he wants credit for attempting to put it out.

Meanwhile the house is burning.

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lol quoting andrew cuomo who during these riots ripped the police.. then was forced to apologize..when the chief of department in nyc monahan blasted him..cuomo did not even know who he was..smh...