Coronavirus politics and news.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

I knew that was coming. Deflect and deny.

Cuomo, in retrospect, was in error. However at the time he was following guidelines established by the TRUMP administration. Doesn't in any way excuse the decision, however offers context and some perspective.

"I just want to reiterate once again that the policy that the Department of Health put out was in line directly with the March 13 directive put out by (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) that read, and I quote, 'Nursing homes should admit any individuals from hospitals where Covid is present,'" said Secretary to the Governor Melissa DeRosa on Saturday during a briefing. "Not could, should ... that is President (Donald) Trump's CMS and CDC.

"There are over a dozen states that did the exact same thing, many of whom were concerned about hospital capacity. ... Obviously any death is an unfortunate death," DeRosa said, listing the totals from other states amongst New York's. "It's been a national and international tragedy that everybody has had to grapple with and it is something that we're trying to learn from every day and move forward."

http://www.wicz.com/story/42167065/c...-nursing-homes

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Dr, Cuomo is the Gov. He makes his own decisions for his State. You were telling us a few months ago that Trump will soon realize that he is not King. Cuomo screwed up big time!

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Of course you are only talking about Cuomo and ignoring the 12 other governors who followed Trump's administration guidelines. It's NY, he's a Dem I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

Fla can't compare to the population density of NY, not even close. (The primary component in the covid spread equation, the more densely packed the faster the spread and higher infection rate.) NYC is the most densely populated major city in the country with a density of 27,000 people per sq. mile. Fla. is 354.4 people per sq. mile.

Deny and deflect.

You have not answered or responded to the charge re: DeSantis. Why? Because his behavior is indefensible? Why is he cooking the books?

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Dr, where was DeBlasio and Cuomo with preparation with a crisis? The #1 city in the World with regards to travel and those two were not ready? Hell, they knew about this in Dec and January and those two bumpkins still dropped the ball.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

DeSantis on the other hand, willingly and with intent, altered data to suite a personal agenda. Recall last to close first to re-open.

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Why are the democratic controlled States worse than the Republican States? Hmmmmmm.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

No Nick! I prefer to inject bleach and shove a flashlight up my ***.

Respect your president!

My objection isn't to the firing! My issue is with the fudged numbers and blatant attempt at a cover up. Trump has ushered in the belief that politicians (particularly R's) are above the law, have absolute authority and can abuse their power to further self serving interests.

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Like the Dems don’t fudge numbers either.....

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Originally Posted by drt1010

You are too kind. ;) The manner in which he crucified Obama, who didn't play 1/10th the amount, is indefensible. He claimed "he wouldn't have time to golf, he would be too busy working," Bullspit! He has spent more time playing golf, AT HIS OWN branded properties, in three years than Obama did in 8 by a very wide margin.

I love golf, I would be more than willing to grant him the concession, IF he wasn't such a hypocrite!

Trump golf count to date: 251 trips (at his own branded courses)

Cost to the US taxpayer: $134,000,000 = 335 years of US Presidential salary.

The Secret Service has spent more than $765,000 to rent golf carts at trump properties alone.

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Dr, does Trump get a paycheck?

No he doesn’t. Golf is covered with that alone...so save the taxpayer crap.....

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Originally Posted by rcsownsu

if you ask me. Top four reasons new york city were hit harder than anywhere else.

1. The international travel that comes through the city

2. The mass transit. No where in the us does another city have anywhere near the same level of transit. Between trains, subways, busses.. Etc.

3. Cuomos failure to act quicker once cases started being confirmed.

4. Mayor d. One of the worst politicians i've ever seen. How he is still in office blows my mind.

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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy

Dr, does Trump get a paycheck?

No he doesn’t. Golf is covered with that alone...so save the taxpayer crap.....

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Yes, he does get a paycheck actually. :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Yes, he does get a paycheck actually. :facepalm:

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Trump has made a show of giving away his paycheck, donating his salary to the National Park Service, the Department of Education, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Small Business Administration, the Surgeon General's office and the Department of Agriculture......

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Trump has made a show of giving away his paycheck, donating his salary to the National Park Service, the Department of Education, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Small Business Administration, the Surgeon General's office and the Department of Agriculture......

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No ****. Hence he DOES get a paycheck as I said.

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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy

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Left out #5 , policies in acted by cuomo like the one that had 5000 infected be sent to assisted living facilities where the virus spread fast

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Dr, where was DeBlasio and Cuomo with preparation with a crisis? The #1 city in the World with regards to travel and those two were not ready? Hell, they knew about this in Dec and January and those two bumpkins still dropped the ball.

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Thankfully Cuomo and Deblasio moved faster than the president or Desantis.

I'm not saying they were good. They were just less bad and arguably, far more honest with the citizens in their state/country.

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Why are the democratic controlled States worse than the Republican States? Hmmmmmm.

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That's not exactly accurate.

Many of the democratic states have a much higher population. Another reason is, those states have more densely populated regions in which the virus transmits quickly.
Another reason is accuracy of reporting the numbers

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Originally Posted by RCSownsU

If you ask me. Top four reasons new York city were hit harder than anywhere else.

1. The international travel that comes through the city

2. The mass transit. No where in the US does another city have anywhere near the same level of transit. Between trains, subways, busses.. Etc.

3. Cuomos failure to act quicker once cases started being confirmed.

4. Mayor D. One of the worst politicians I've ever seen. How he is still in office blows my mind.

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I fully agree on your list of 4 things, I think 5 are needed.

1. Trump did nothing to expedite any part of the process and was extremely slow to respond. Not just in the eyes of many of us but also in the eyes of the rest of the world, where he's been heavily criticized. While I know that some don't care what the rest of the world thinks, I would suggest considering that if the whole world says it's a duck and more than half of this country says it's a duck, it's a ****ing duck.

2. The international travel that comes through the city

3. The mass transit. No where in the US does another city have anywhere near the same level of transit. Between trains, subways, busses.. Etc.

4. Cuomos failure to act quicker once cases started being confirmed.

5. Mayor D. One of the worst politicians I've ever seen. How he is still in office blows my mind.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

No ****. Hence he DOES get a paycheck as I said.

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Ok, I see how you operate. You have to be so literal with your crap on everything.

He is fckn donating his paycheck!

Is THAT better!

Way to go Gretchen! What a hypocrite!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/25/michig...-boat-request/