Facts mean nothing to blind Trump supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
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Facts mean nothing to blind Trump supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
Sounds like that conservative news brainwashing has done a real number on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Wrapping yourself in the flag? Good one. What is that page two or three in the Trump manual?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
I trust them both unequivocally more than the orange dotard. At the very least we will see a return to respect for the rule of law, protection of the environment, respect on the international stage and trust that a president is working for the people, all the people not just his family and friends. Hopefully we get an AG that isn't the presidents private attorney!
Mush, stop trolling. You aren't stupid.
That's the equivalent of me saying, if Trump is elected, we will have a nazi logo on the flag and we become a dictatorship
So assume I am not lying(which I am not) what does that say? If Hannity on his TV show talks about 2+2=4 and then the next day I say 2+2=4 without watching the show, what does that say?Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
You can't debate the issue so you take ad hominem attacks. You can't debate your way out of a wet paper bag my friend.
I am 100% agreeing with you here. I can't prove any of it, but man does it seem like there is some sort of insider trading going on with the vast dips and rises.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
Under performed? 60% increase in three years is under performing???Quote:
but the way I and millions of others have been allocating our funds suddently underperformed pre covid.
As am I, and I have recovered all loses from COVID driven losses. Not sure why you've not made money, but most people who take a laid back approach (traditional retirement activity) are making loads of money under this administration. Those that do more "day trading" would be the ones taking loses I would imagine.Quote:
And I am a person with a balanced allocation of assets.
Let's analyze your TDS right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Those ain't conservatives destroying the cities of America.Quote:
At the very least we will see a return to respect for the rule of law,
Flint, MI, California Fires, the environment failure is on the leftQuote:
protection of the environment,
1) Who cares what other nations think of us? Besides it seems to not hurt immigration one bit.Quote:
respect on the international stage
You mean the family that has lost billions since he decided to run?Quote:
and trust that a president is working for the people, all the people not just his family and friends.
Feel free to show your workQuote:
Hopefully we get an AG that isn't the presidents private attorney!
I dont believe that the ways that you get to 4 are any different. I've debated the issue enough with you. You echo whatever the Trump administration says, even when its based in narrative filled fact less rhetoric.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
What can I tell ya, if it performed as well as you claim, that would be Trumps mantra. It’s not, cause he can’t, cause it’s not that good. I have provided you arguments with analysis over several years, I can find you more. You just ignore it. What more can be said. I am comfortable with the numbers and my real life experience. I am not voting for him, and many former Trump voters agree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
You're one to talk. :laugh2:Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
Name a President thst doesn’t lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by YANKSGUY
Please, they all do, who cares, his lies do not affect us.
My investments have gone through the roof since 2016! These people do not know how to invest with their 401KQuote:
Originally Posted by brett05
Oof... And here lies the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
His lies absolutely has an affect on people (I'd argue some number between 1 and 185,000 have been affected by the things Donald Trump has or has not done).
You've gone full circle now, and accepting lies as an excuse for you to be correct... which is the sure fire tell that someone's lost their argument.
Truth hurts. As per the Fuhrers order, when in doubt attack the messenger as "fake news" and TDS.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
Are you certain? Is Kyle Rittenhouse associated with D's? Were the white supremicists in Charlottesville? How about the Neo-Nazi's who marched on DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
You have conveniently avoid the crux of the comment, ie Trump's blatant abuse of the rule of law. By one count, he is currently defying as many as 20 different efforts to examine his conduct. Not all of these involve executive privilege. The pattern of resistance is such that we should evaluate the president’s actions against that background and, rightly, conclude that much of the president’s resistance is undertaken in bad faith in an attempt to avoid, or at a minimum delay, scrutiny of his conduct.
Cali fires? Really. Flint is an environmental disaster. Trump has consistently and systematically eroded environmental protection at the behest of big oil in particular and multi nationals in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
Lets count the ways:
1) The Trump administration announced that they will roll back some safety measures that regulate offshore drilling operations.
2) Trump signed two executive orders that will smooth the path for companies to build oil and gas pipelines and limit the tools states have to block them.
His order asserts that the president has the authority to “issue, deny, or amend” any permits for pipelines or other infrastructure projects that cross international borders. Previously, that authority lay with the secretary of state. Most notably, this decision would apply to permitting decisions concerning TransCanada Corporation's controversial Keystone XL pipeline, a project that, if completed, could carry some 800,000 barrels of oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast each day.
3) Trump issued a new permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline, after the Obama administration had delayed it. The pipeline would carry crude oil from the tar sands of western Canada to refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast. Trump's previous approval had been blocked by a federal judge in Montana in November, who had said the government had not done enough to complete environmental reviews of the controversial project.
4)Andrew Wheeler was made acting EPA director in July, he has issued a series of controversial environmental rollbacks. Wheeler is a former coal lobbyist who replaced Scott Pruitt, Trump's first pick for EPA administrator who resigned last July.
5) Washington Post revealed that Trump quietly issued an executive order to increase logging of forests on federal land on December 21, a day before the government shutdown.
Critics of the president's executive order also say the decision to log does little to address concerns from scientists that wildfires are more frequently being caused by climate change-induced conditions. Logging can also have other negative impacts, including disruption to wildlife habitat and erosion.
Don't be fooled. Trump PLAYS a billionaire on TV. In reality he's worth much less. In fact much of his wealth is tied to leveraged deals. If not for Deutsche bank bailing him out, when he was a persona non grata that couldn't get loan from anyone, he wouldn't be in the position he is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
Trump has refused to do as his predecessors have done: sever ties to the companies or financial interests that may pose, or present the appearance of, a conflict of interest. By keeping his assets in a family-managed trust, which he can revoke at any time, Trump and his family are in the unique position to profit directly from his public service. Special interests in Washington have caught on. Those seeking to curry favor with Trump are not only donating to his reelection campaign but holding fundraisers and galas at his resorts, private clubs and hotels – the proceeds of which benefit him and his family. When will we see his Taxes? Will we ever see his taxes?
What is funny is many of your so called former Trump supporters will still stay hidden in the closet and then vote for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman