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The issue is China’s numbers are in there too. And so are other Countries that lie as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
This chart is nice to see the death rate dropping each day now since March 27 but it is more than likely false because of those Countries who lie to the WHO.
I don't know why you're quoting me and saying Dr. Keep me out of your petty bs with Doc. Thanks. What happened to all the negative Nancy's and you were gonna stay away? Didn't even last a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
I believe China lied about the #s, but it's also very possible they stopped the spread. Since they locked a lot of their country down, it definitely can control the spread. They can do that ya know, since they're a communist country.
South Korea(one of our biggest allies and a very trust worthy country) must be lying too, since they nearly have stopped getting new cases. They didn't even have to lock their country down, their citizens and country just took it more seriously with mass testing and isolation than we did. Which is why the US is where it is, and South Korea is on a rapid decline.
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As it should be! Bad science is of little use to anyone, except those hoping to advance a spurious conspiratorial narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Not a damn thing? Who assured the stimulus package included oversight, worker protection, some guardrails on the 500B slush fund for big corp.? Who argued to protect small business ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
No Nick I have said from the outset the investigation and condemnation should come from the UN. The entire world needs an explanation from China, not just the US.
Stop with the slush fund crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
$2 trillion Dr, and there is more on the way.
But you never explained why $25 million went to the Kennedy Center?
Still waiting..........
None so blind as those that refuse to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Nicky I like you. I will defend you and your right to speak your mind. However I will no longer engage you on the incessant need to blame China.
Yes sir, an example of acting quickly and decisively.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCSownsU
Nicky, you consistently call me out in regards to China, I get it, don't agree blaming does any good, but I understand the narrative.
Why has Trump gone unscathed in your daily diatribe? He was 1st warned on Jan 3 and had ample opportunity to ramp up testing. Instead, he ignored the threat and bungled the rollout of testing, allowing the virus to spread undetected for MONTHS. It is universally agreed early testing and containment is the crucial first step in response.
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Originally Posted by RCSownsU
Maybe he meant just that thread. LOL
I don't care if you are a democrat, republican, pro-Trump, human being, alien or a dinosaur.
Everyone should agree that the POTUS didn't read this epidemic well from the beginning and didn't take the proper measures early enough. That's what happens when you don't believe in science and scientists and don't take numbers and facts and examples (China, Asia then Europe).
Trump ****ed up then responded too late. The numbers alone in comparison to other countries is proof enough already.
On behalf of all my fellow aliens, :clap:
Dinosaurs send thoughts and prayers, wishing all well.
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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Mush here is the bottom line regarding Trump’s response to the outbreak and blaming China
I come to your house when you aren’t home. I smear poop everywhere and I take multiple,
giant craps on all your furniture, then leave
You get home and are obviously appalled and see a red nose on top of a pile. You think “friggin clown” and call me to ask if it was me.
I say “no way did I do that”
You stare, dumbfounded and gagging. Then you see a wallet is in another pile You look and sure enough it’s me. You call me and tell me about the license.
I finally admit it. I tell you it was me but it was an emergency and I’m sorry
You ask what I’m going to do about it and I tell you, “ nothing, it’s your house, not mine”
1-you think about fighting me but realize, it will be really long and really bloody and our friends will need to get involved and probably hurt.
So that is not an option.
2-you keep telling your friends it was me. You blame me to everyone and they all cheer you.
But you are still sitting in a house that is full of horrible, rancid feces and have done little to change it because you’ve wasted time blaming me
3-you realize the reality so you shut your mouth, hold your nose and clean up the mess and worry about what you will say to me when it’s over
Do you choose option 2 or option 3?
If I may give a response. It’s going to be complicated and raise some points. First off I am a fiscal conservative and on the surface don’t like tax dollars funding private institutions. However, I will say institutions like museums and educational institutions like the Kennedy Center do provide jobs and are economic drivers for their local areas. In NYC our museums like MET and MOMA are the reason people travel here. Art lovers pay money to travel here, eat in restaurants, buy shows to other events, stay in hotels. So perhaps that is why. Perhaps even getting more bang for your buck then when municipalies use tax dollars to support teams like the Yankees and Mets in building their stadiums, for jobs and investment. Even if you think pretty old pictures are a waste of money, it’s a job creator. However, the Kennedy Center was allocated the money and then laid people off. That was directly against the spirit of why they were given the money and movement is being made to have them refund the money and that is right. However, this raises a point about the budget you may not have intended to raise. The initial Republican budget did not offer oversight as to how the funds are spent. The latter one did. So the budget that passed that the Democrats fought for may lead to these funds being returned. Good right . I am sure if we looked at the budget there will be cultural institutions beloved by conservative too. Perhaps the Reagan library. Can you post the budget as first proposed and what later was passed to see what got funded ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
But the thing is museum and art jobs are not essential jobs so there really is no valid excuse to have tens of millions of dollars going to them right now . That is just yet another example of wasteful pork
maybe I am wrong, but during this crisis money is being paid to corporations and institutions to pay tax payers who have missed work, essential or not. I could be wrong. Look it up and let me know. Let’s look up the budget, see what places in your area have gotten funded. Perhaps your curious what is getting funded in your neighborhood. I am at lunch at work. I am essential and am working. I await your response. What things in your neighborhood received funding ? I doubt you will respond to that, all you will say is it’s pork. But, little else. And it’s good that oversight is available on the bill that passed right to fix this right ? The initial bill did not have any oversight, that was bad right .Quote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
Hopefully he stocked up on TP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
Wow New Orleans has the highest per capital infection rate.
Purple is where NY is at currently. The social distancing might be working. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5e31173991.jpg
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Gotta love Cole for continuing his workout with teammates even though everything official has been shut down. The donation to the relief fund and NY area hospital is pretty cool as well.
https://www.nj.com/yankees/2020/04/e...-slow-him.html
#lovemyace
Who are blue and orange?Quote:
Originally Posted by RCSownsU
The BroncosQuote:
Originally Posted by goingfor28
Anyone get the feeling Trump’s family purchased stock in hydrochloroquine?
Kinda feels more likely he had some one in his extended family buy it though an off shore shell corporation. He seems to believe and be pushing for its use far more then even his own expertsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
They're original projections for NYS.Quote:
Originally Posted by goingfor28
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NEW: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo says total hospitalizations, ICU admissions and daily intubations are down.
"Those are all good signs and again would suggest a possible flattening of curve."
“We don’t need any additional ventilators right now,” Cuomo said.
https://abcn.ws/2JUYm0d
Wow talk about conspiracy theories, it’s garbage posts like those that I was talking about before when I stated why I was staying away from this thread .Quote:
Originally Posted by dayners81
Would it be more believable had he said it was the NWO behind the offshore account?Quote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
WHO is covering this up for China....
It will all come out in the wash....
WHO said on Jan 14 that human to human transmission was not the case in China...
Taiwan had evidence of human to human transmission was reported to them on Dec 31...
What a joke!
Yes Dr, I know it is here but you will see how preventable this was 3 weeks prior to Jan 14....
Reports are saying 95% of the spread could have been contained in Dec and this would have been controlled...
More believable would be if the account was in China .Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Source? (Fox news opinion page doesn't qualify as reputable.)Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
WHO is involved in a cover up? Is that right Nick? Or is it republican spinning vitriol?
The top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee has accused China of carrying out "one of the worst cover-ups in human history" over the novel coronavirus outbreak and inflicting a pandemic and economic calamity on the world.
Why it matters: Rep. Michael McCaul's rhetoric is characteristic of the growing hawkishness toward China among many in Washington, D.C. even, or especially, amid a crisis that is battering both countries. https://www.axios.com
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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Want to know something more unbelievable ? Mr Fauci the guy who seems to used as a source to attack trump , said 3 months ago that the virus was no big deal
https://www.gopusa.com/anuary-2020-a...o-worry-about/
The death rate hasn't dropped each day since 3/27; it's jumped up and down while remaining under the jump made on 3/27.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
Yet you continue to be one of the main posters in this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
It's incredibly irresponsible and dangerous for the president to be pushing any medication as a form of treatment for this virus. Everything that comes out of his mouth is verbal diarrhea i swear.
I just find it very odd, that Trump stopped a media member from asking Anthony Fauci his thoughts on the medications Trump has been speaking of so much. But ya know.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
Citizens for Ethics @CREWcrew
A Pharma-funded group tied to a top Trump donor has been pushing Trump to approve the use of hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID-19. https://readsludge.com/2020/04/06/ph...the-president/
Close enough.
More conspiracy theories. The president would never do anything to help his business or the businesses of his friends. Shame on you :).Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
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Originally Posted by metswon69
Now that post is a classic case of verbal diarrhea . Those medications were proven to work in Europe last month . Then there is cuomo approving trials of those same meds in nyc less than 2 weeks ago .
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...ay-cuomo-says/
But yeah now that trump is touting it , there must be some kind of conspiracy where trump is profiting from this or that he is full of crap and the meds shouldn’t be tried . The blind hatred for trump just causes people to lose their damned minds
Oops my bad. Apologies. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
Well I guess I shouldn't mention the specific oversight written into the stimulus bill.
Or Trump Tower Moscow deal during his presidential campaign? He also may have considered offering Putin a $50 million penthouse, underscoring the potential role of business interests in the Trump-Putin connection.
Similarly, in Saudi Arabia, Trump continues to deny the involvement of crown prince Mohammed bin Salman in the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi – going, yet again, against US intelligence reports. At the same time, it’s been reported that he has numerous business deals with the country and has made tens of millions not only from Saudi investors, but from the government as well.
But wait there more....lots more. :)
Yes. I hate when Garbage posts like this are made. I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
You do know that a bunch of senators and congressmen dumped their stocks just before the market crashed? That’s not conspiracy. It’s fact. They used inside info as to what the president was going to do, to profit
That’s a fact
It’s disgusting they did it but I’m guessing you are ok with it
The idea that a professional “businessman “ might set his family and others up for profit by pushing a drug that has very little empirical data to back it is garbage?
Why is it garbage as a thought? Because you didn’t think of it?