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Right from Trump's mouth. You missed your calling. OAN would love you.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
We're not flattening the curve. You had 39,000 confirmed cases in the US yesterday and over a 1000 deaths. Kids can learn just fine from home. Lack of socialization being in class is not going to kill them. The virus, on the other hand, can and infect their families, teachers, etc.
He knows this is his last lifeline. He has to come up big. Like I said to you yesterday though, i dont know if Senate Republicans are going to back him because they probably see him as a lame duck president.Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Don't you mean the inaction of the dotard in charge? We still don't have a national strategy. Still no mask mandate, which is a proven deterrent to the spread. Fortunately some governors and the public are taking the threat far more seriously. The lack of leadership is evident. The failure clear. To deny responsibility in the face of a crisis is criminal. That is not leadership, it's inept cowardice.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
Yep. Goin deep with the hail mary. Clock is ticking.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
Watch for the lemmings to abandon ship, that is the obvious tell he's going down.
Hmmmmmm, not good. Just what I said and most of you said Joe would be more of a moderate if in office.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/17/aoc-sa...nce-in-office/
That's all presidents once they are elected. Trump went much further right than his original campaign in 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
I was referring to you being correct about asking for small portions.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett05
You answered this but not the one question that I did ask. At least you didn't try to deflect. You just ignored.
Now, if you genuinely don't care about social issues or how trump is handling things because your life has improved, I actually understand that. If that is the case then why not admit? If You don't care and stop defending him with the understanding that some people do care?
But if you think he's a great president for all reasons and is being unduly criticized?
Here is question 1
Trump is paying off a porn star for having an affair with her. True or False?
**** AOC.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
She's an absolute ****ing moron for those comments.
I genuinely don't know if she wants Biden to win because. She turns 31 on October 13th. That means she will be eligible for the next election to run as VP and I'm sure she has the desire to run on an all woman ticket with absurdly left ideals.
I really, really dislike her. I like some of her ideas but again, the packaging is gross.
I dont expect Biden to be Bernie Sanders. He's a moderate Democrat. He'll be a moderate democrat in office if elected. No president holds to everything they campaign on nor are they not allowed to take liberties once in office. All presidents have some kind of political agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
As for AOC, yeah she's too liberal for my liking. I don't hate her but I don't like how Democrats strapped a rocket up her *** to make her the new star of the party. She will definitely run for president whenever Biden or Trump are done.
If she runs, I will vote for her opposition or a third party.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
If she ran why not wait to hear the platform and the opossites platform first before commiting. Right cause if you cant be rational and not prejudiced your nothing but a Trumper...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
Ruth Bader Ginsburg just passed away. This adds another massive issue to this election and IMO could very much factor in a great deal who wins or loses this election.
Well lets see if MCconell tries to rush a canidate thru in an elction period in contrast to what he did during the last election. Although I doubt he would get support from certain Senators running for reelection like Collins and even maybe Graham. But prolifers may be motivated and pull it out for Trump. But rest in peace to a great person who has left us.Quote:
Originally Posted by dayners81
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ath-rates.html
He does realize that he is the president of those blue states as well does he not?
Perfect timing for Trump to put another conservative Judge in the Supreme Court. He will certainly put in a women. But of course it won’t be the type of lady that the Dems want. And there is no reason to delay this. RBG is dead now. This was predicted a few years ago and that worried the Dems. I just want to see how bad the Dems are to the nominee who will no doubt be another women.Quote:
Originally Posted by dayners81
I understand that but Cortez and her wing of the Dem party will strng arm Biden if he is elected. I’m sorry but Biden will be controlled like a puppet from the deep left of the party.They want power. You can see it. Now some things she says I agree with but there is just too much to the left with her agenda and that is not going to work with the majority of Americans in 2020. Her comments might have just ruined Biden’s chances. Why would you say those comments when Biden and his wife have said that he is a moderate? It made him look like a fool already.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzubnyy
AOC has her own agenda. Clearly she wanted Bernie. She made that evident during the DNC as well. This is part of the problem in the Democratic party. Its fragmented. If the goal is to defeat Trump, support Biden. Sort out what you want passed in January if Biden is elected. Theres a pretty good chance Dems win the White House and gain seats in the Senate so that power will be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
100%Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
Mush, what do you think about Colby Covington, stance?
Barrett is a bad choice Lagoa would be a brilliant choice by Trump.
She would be effectively bullet proof. If the Dems ripped her, they will look very bad.
Even my wife who is a bleeding heart, reluctantly agreed.
To lighten things up, have you guys heard of an “ Energy Vampire, or “ Psychic Vampire “ ? It’s a kind of vampire that survives on the annoyance and nervousness it engenders in its targets. See this link for laughs and it may explain a few posters who frequent this board. Enjoy - https://youtu.be/4k1EhYj7YEk
Clown, imo the point is moot. They should wait. If Trump wins then you can discuss HIS pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
The hypocrisy streaming from the R's is nauseating. No need to mention Merrick Garland. :horse:
All the good soldiers getting in line.
Dont think DEMS csn count on Republicans sense of fair play. See that Pelosi is studying the optiono of impeachingTrump again to prevent the process of bringing forth the process of a new SCOTUS in the SenateQuote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Also the elimination of the filibuster atleast they arent planning on taking this injustoce without vaseline.
For certain. The D's should not, and will not go quietly! The hypocrisy is evident to all but the sycophants' up Trumps butt. I am hanging my hope on the morally minded and reasonable R's to stand up and be counted, the few they may be. This appointment will change the face of the court for generations.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
Trump should not be trying to push thru his choice before the election. If he succedes why would problifers need to vote for him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
That assumes that pro-lifers are ONLY voting for Trump on single issue? Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
It is frightening to watch the Dems become more full of hate and vitriol than the Reps.
I don't wan him as president. But in the last couple weeks, it's gotten nuts.
I have certainly been guilty of calling out people and accusing them of certain beliefs based on their blind support for him but you step back and look?
It's ****ed. And it is not just Trump doing it. Trump is not going to turn the country into a fascist nation. Just like Biden won't turn us into purely socialist country.
I have spoken to many people about whom I care and that I respect. They feel the Dems will ruin the country the way the Dems fear Trump will. When I listen, I don't agree with all points, but there are many that I can see as legit, at least to them. They aren't ignorant stances. They aren't callous.
Truthfully, hearing AOC continually speak scares me as much as hearing Pence speak. They are the same coin.
Then you have HBO running a show that essentially bashes him and his family at all costs? Really? What if they'd done that to Obama?
When all these celebrities come out screaming, it's not a good look for the Dems. That party looks really bad right now. Really, really bad. Really hateful.
Trump sets himself up. He deserves much of what he gets but not enough to have people hating one another.
I hope people read full transcripts and give some context to many of the things about which he's quoted.
If you think Trump is better for this country? Great. Will I question certain issues? Hell yes.
But no one should be afraid of voting for Trump or Biden.
If Trump wins, I hope he does a great job.
Clown out
I voted for Trump and wanted him to do a good job he failed to. Trump has shown himself to be inQuote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
In capable of doing a good job. AOC a young congressional member from a poor district only gets attention because Fox has elevated her status to be a boogie man. Her voice is not representative of the Dems but Pence is representative of his party. The Republicans are the party that has led to this division, they have harnassed the wedge issue and dog whisltes for decades. I am a Republican and admit this but it now has gone too far. Go over to YouTube and look at videos produced by Republicans voting for Biden. New folks are added daily. Recently a staff person of Pence has come out for Biden. Its a false equivelancy your making.
Clown one questian if the Supreme Court tilts to the right for gthe next 20 years what does that mean for the life of the regylar middle class American ? Think about the changes that will result... its some really scary **** for a regular middle class person. For pro lifers, its ironic because after a decade of pro corporate supreme court decisons millions of American woman will use birth control and illegal abortions to not bring children into a world with less oportunities and safety nets for their kids.
I am not disputing the importance of that.. But am also not ready to presume a SCOTUS is going to be bad just because he nominates them.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
I do think it's ****ed that McConnel will push it forward. He's a scumbag. But so is Pelosi.
The abortion thing is scary. It will likely, be up to each state.
(As a side note with a bit of levity and legitimacy, if she does get the nod, investing in Plan B would be a wise choice because it will be flying off the shelves for a period of time.)
My point above was people need to stop hating each other because one votes for one and the other votes for the other.
AOC simply talks too much and says dumb stuff. It's not Fox's fault. The Post has write ups, CNN, NY times...
I loved it when she got elected but she's becoming a bit of a monster
The Dems have really driven this car too fast and too much on the wrong side of the road. As a party, they look terrible. They spew far more hate and they do it at every opportunity. It's not a good look. Preaching togetherness to their base and fringe while meat grinding anyone who may even insinuate they like trump.
In addition to Roe v Wade the ACA is at risk of being completely gutted as well. The Trump administration is currently in court battling to eliminate key elements of the program, the individual mandate and pre-existing coverage top the list. Cost-sharing reduction subsidies to insurers ended and access to short-term "skinny" plans, which help circumvent pre=existing conditions was expanded. The SCOTUS is scheduled to hear arguments re: ACA Nov.10 a week after the election.
Make no mistake, Trump's priimary goal is the elimination of "Obama Care", he's made it a mission. The very day Trump was sworn in — Jan. 20, 2017 — he signed an executive order instructing administration officials "to waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay" implementing parts of the Affordable Care Act, while Congress got ready to repeal and replace President Obama's signature health law.
Clown, hate and vitriol are the calling cards of this president and the R's have been complicit! Not one has the balls or ovaries to stand up and be counted. Yet when the D's fight back and play by the same rules they are taken to task for the same behavior! Why must they always take the high road? Hypocrisy at it's finest. Kudos to Pelosi and AOC for speaking truth to power. They had a target on their back, placed by FOX, from the second Trump was elected.
Are you willing to take that chance knowing in advance a womens right to choose and the ACA are at stake?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown
Forget the ACA, private corporations will argue it violates their rights to have to pay to insure their employees period for any health inaurance. There will be fights by individuals to stop paying FICA and Medicare taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Misguided nobilty by Clown. Snap out of it Clown. Focus on tge self interest of the common American. The Reps dont care. Also Clown the division you see in media witb HBO and Fox is indicative of the divide between White College educated Americans who support Biden and watch HBO and non college educated whites who support Trump. Those non College educated whites who cheer that a reporter got shot by a rubber bullet. Same non educatee whites who do some nasty crap, and I am a white college educated Republican. Its ok to say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
Yes the logical extension goes in that direction, once the box is open. The immediate threat, Nov. 10th, is to the ACA.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
For Clown, you want Democrats to love Republicans ? Ok that’s noble and I am a person who loves his wife a Democrat and have for two decades. Sure I know we all should be civil. However, research the goal of the Koch Bro’s and conservatives who have used prolife as their lure to get Christians to support conservative judges appointed to the SCOTUS and Federal courts. It’s not about abortion it’s about ending anything the US has looked like prior to the new deal era. They want the US to be something prior to Teddy Roosevelt, no anti trusts laws also. Research the goal of the Koch Bro’s agenda. This is all very possible. So think of that when you want Dems to be nice. Graham, Mcconell Cruz, Trump don’t give a crap about that. You want the Yankees to allow Houston to use cameras while the Yankees play fair ? That is the analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
I wasn't clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
I'm talking about us with our neighbors, friends and families.
As far as the politicians, l I do think they should display a level of diplomacy and class. I am tired of the ugly.
Don't for an instance think I have any love for the like of the Koch *******s. They are horrid, as are the other names mentioned.
I will respectfully disagree with your analogy.
The Yankees should disrupt the camera feeds, tell people that since the Astros are doing it, they will too and get a great place to quietly hide their own.
Don't scream and yell about the Astros cheating. No one cares except your own fans. Don't lie to your fans. Don't incite hate for something you also do.
I strongly disagree with the bolded. I know many, very well educated people of all colors who watch HBO and who support Trump. I also know a ton of not so smart Dems who watch the other stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by flimflamman
I want you to consider the tone with which you are addressing me. I want Trump out. I think he is a bad man with bad intentions.
You are telling me to "Snap out of it"? Snap out of what?