Coronavirus politics and news.

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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy

And Pelosi?

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A sweet, kind, compassionate 80 yr old......that will tear your balls off, with a smile.

There is a reason the madam became Speaker.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

And our lack of a response made it worse. We're way past focusing on China. It's now about how we handle this and so far our president has done a piss poor job.

We'll deal with China when this is over. The economic sanctions will be significant for them.

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:clap: Concise and to the point!

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Don’t you realize anything that goes against their narrative is just distractions and lies ? I mean somehow they know better than us and all

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Really Jorge. Are you sure you want to go there? Shall I count the ways this is a false and misleading statement.

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Originally Posted by goingfor28

He's moved into injecting people with disinfectant spray.

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.....and somehow getting UV rays inside the body! He is an embarrassment of epic proportion.

Sunlight and heat will be his new mantra.

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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy

Again, you keep saying lack of response....

When the China tells the WTO that nothing is bad with the virus, no human to human transmissions, when international flights out of China kept on going throughout the world, when the CDC was getting information about the virus in January and when they were not worried at the time how do you expect ALL LEADERS in The World to be fully prepared just perfectly like you expected?

The problem with the Dems is they think every scenario should be PERFECT.

The PERFECT WORLD doesn’t exist and you people know that or you are all brainwashed to believe that it really exists.....


When flights kept coming into NY in January what do you really expect? Seriously?

This didn’t pop up in the US out of the ground. This came from China.

You guys are unbelievable thinking that Trump could have done any better.

No President and that includes your hero Obama could have done any better because they would have gotten the same goddamn information from the China, WHO and the CDC....There were very little red flags coming from those three sources......you can’t figure it out?

Why did Italy crumble fast and hard? Why are there cases reported everywhere in the World yet Trump wasn’t fast enough with response....oh save that BS.

Your perfect world scenario doesn’t exist. This is a once in a lifetime scenario for probably the next 100 years as well.

NO Democrat or Republican President would have done any better and you all know that. You all just want something for a narrative because this is an election year.


Do I need to point out the lack of response was from Obama with regards to the swine flu? Deaths hit 1000 before he started to react properly.

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Mush, you keep forgetting that no one here has blamed Trump for the virus.
His response has been crap and still is. Inject yourself with disinfectant? There are tons of Drs going online and warning people not to do it.

Again, I didn't have a huge issue with trump until this happened. He has been horrible.
You bring up Obama? Why? he had less warning of the virus than Trump did.
How many died of H1N1? How may have died from Covid?

We had a vaccine for it within a year.
It was after the that the country started to plan more accordingly for pandemics.
That was one year into his presidency. Should have been better? Yes. If you asked him, I would guess he would say the same. Because he is at least more of a stand up human being than our current joke.



Again, you blame everyone and everything but not the individual who had some power to really do something.
Instead you mouth his words. It's their fault... oh now it's their fault.... oh now we should blame them.... blame him... blame her.... That's what you do mush. Finger point and blame. It does nothing. This is our country and our problem. Nothing else is relevant aside from how we handle it.
As a country we have been terrible. It;'s not only Trump. No one has said it was. There have been failures all over.

But he is the president. He has lied. He has mislead. He has played favorites. He has been petty. He has outwardly worried about his ratings.

You talk about the election and the Dems wanting to mess it up? Really? Do they need to? No.
Trump has done a fine job of that by himself. He has made his decisions for this based on reelection not on the health and safety of the public.

I'm sorry you can't see that.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

.....and somehow getting UV rays inside the body! He is an embarrassment of epic proportion.

Sunlight and heat will be his new mantra.

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"I heard they are testing, and you'll love this, they are testing that ifyousing, YouaremySunshine, in the key of C, it's a great key, trust me, you will see the Covid virus mutate and cure other diseases in the body,"

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Really Jorge. Are you sure you want to go there? Shall I count the ways this is a false and misleading statement.

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Doc, in a purely professional opinion, was the post you quoted, the post of someone playing the victim?

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Mush, Shake shack will get a 10 mil bailout but food stamp extension won't happen.


If your company reopens and you are scared to go back or have preexisting issues and can't go back, you don't get unemployment.

We **** the vulnerable in this country. We **** the people who most need help. We **** them. And then we **** them again.

You post these bs on liners like Share the wealth doesn't work. Really, have we done it? Has this country given a safety net to everyone? We can. We have the money and the means. But groups like MAGA are too foolish to see they are being screwed because they are sold their freedom as their right.

You know what freedom would be? Someone has a sick partner, child, parent and you want time off to take care of them or to spend some last moments with them and you can. And you can do so without lowing your home, your insurance, your retirement plan.

Yes. I agree the left is just as hypocritical Pelosi=Mitch. Same coin.

But the left as Flimflamman pointed out lives in states with higher incomes and that share that money with the red states who hate them and talk about socialism.

We do not care for our fellow Americans. We ****ing care only for ourselves.
If you cared about others, you would see the need to help.

Yes, I know you donate money. That's admirable but you are not the one who should be solely accountable.
We have the wealth and ability to easily, easily provide basic medical coverage for all and to provide all types of support systems for all who need it and to protect this country.

What aspect of the above have you seen Trump do? Please, name one thing Trump has done to protect us? One thing to protect those in need?

You can't.

Biden sucks. I don't like him as a candidate. I don't. But I like him and trust him as a man far more than I do Trump.

Mail in ballots? You heard trump. There would never be another elected republican. Why? Because so many suppressed votes would count. Because people that are afraid or too angry or can't get to the polls would be heard.

I am telling you now. More of this country thinks like this than thinks the way you do. Far more. It's unfortunate their voices are not heard more clearly.

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Then why doesn’t the higher income state workers spread more of THEIR OWN WEALTH?

They want a tax system to do it.

Make the tax rate 75% in those states. That would solve the issues.you know what happens when more taxes increase?

People flock to Florida to avoid taxes. People hate more taxes.....


You all say tax the rich!

Who are the rich Clown? And can the 1% being taxed more solve the issues?

I don’t see Warren Buffet donating his entire 2019 income to help the poor. Why doesn’t he do that?

And not with a tax incentive for doing it.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Or talking over and interrupting people like a 10 year old. That said, his base loves that ****. They love his classless act even if its filled with misinformation, lies, tantrums, etc.

You can sum up his daily briefings in seconds. He's wasting everyone's time.

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But, but, but the ratings are good.

Elect a narcissists you must deal with the tragic consequence.

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Nice that you consider fellow Americans to be "Opposition". That means you are against them. That means you won't allow them to win. Even if what they want is for the betterment of all.
All that oppose you?

Mush, the president had the power to TELL companies to produce tests. Some states are getting them on their own. California is doing a solid job and I believe Denver is.

The federal government is responsible for the safety of the nation. Tests are an issue of national security.
This is not partisan.

Seriously dude, the opposition? WTF is wrong with you man? You are doing exactly what they (the general "they") want you to do.
I thought you were smarter and honestly better than that

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Agreed. The intention is to divide and conquer. Trump loves drawing up sides. Us vs them. Winners and losers. Fits with his narrow view of the world and jingoistic rhetoric. The sad part imo, the people who have swallowed the BS hook, line and sinker will be the biggest victims.

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Doc, in a purely professional opinion, was the post you quoted, the post of someone playing the victim?

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It does have a passive - aggressive quality.

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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy

Again, you keep saying lack of response....

When the China tells the WTO that nothing is bad with the virus, no human to human transmissions, when international flights out of China kept on going throughout the world, when the CDC was getting information about the virus in January and when they were not worried at the time how do you expect ALL LEADERS in The World to be fully prepared just perfectly like you expected?

The problem with the Dems is they think every scenario should be PERFECT.

The PERFECT WORLD doesn’t exist and you people know that or you are all brainwashed to believe that it really exists.....


When flights kept coming into NY in January what do you really expect? Seriously?

This didn’t pop up in the US out of the ground. This came from China.

You guys are unbelievable thinking that Trump could have done any better.

No President and that includes your hero Obama could have done any better because they would have gotten the same goddamn information from the China, WHO and the CDC....There were very little red flags coming from those three sources......you can’t figure it out?

Why did Italy crumble fast and hard? Why are there cases reported everywhere in the World yet Trump wasn’t fast enough with response....oh save that BS.

Your perfect world scenario doesn’t exist. This is a once in a lifetime scenario for probably the next 100 years as well.

NO Democrat or Republican President would have done any better and you all know that. You all just want something for a narrative because this is an election year.


Do I need to point out the lack of response was from Obama with regards to the swine flu? Deaths hit 1000 before he started to react properly.

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First of all, Obama is not my hero. It doesn't compare with your love for the orange turd either.

I don't believe that, sorry. I do think another president would have dealt with this better. I don't think Trump has the intellectual or emotional faculties to handle a crisis like this whether from its onset or following through to its end. That's evident by his inconsistent messages, his concern over how this virus affected his re-election campaign, his "one man in China" speech, injecting disinfectant as a possible cure, etc.

A moron doesn't stop being a moron just because you hang on to his every word.

Say whatever you want but there's one thing you can't argue. The lack of testing. Blame China and yes their cover up was disgusting but the president has known about this virus since at least January and he decided it wasn't important enough to fund testing to combat it. He sat on his ****ing hands and he doesn't get a pass for that.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/n...n-seasonal-flu

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1.5% of children with H1N1 swine flu were hospitalized, compared to 3.7% of children with seasonal H1N1 flu and to 3.1% of children with seasonal H3N2 flu.

4% of adults with H1N1 swine flu were hospitalized, compared to 2.3% of those with seasonal H1N1 flu and to

4.5% of adults with seasonal H3N2 flu.

2.5% of children with H1N1 swine flu had pneumonia, compared to 1.5% of children with seasonal H1N1 flu and to

2% of children with seasonal H3N2 flu.

4% of adults with H1N1 swine flu had pneumonia, compared to 2.3% of those with seasonal H1N1 flu and to 1.1% of adults with seasonal H3N2 flu.

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The swine flu wasn't nearly as severe of a pandemic stateside as this is. The swine flu killed 18,000 people over the course of 2 years in the US. The coronavirus has killed 50,000+ Americans in less than 2 months. Facts are hard, I know.

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Originally Posted by rrzubnyy

Then why doesn’t the higher income state workers spread more of THEIR OWN WEALTH?

They want a tax system to do it.

Make the tax rate 75% in those states. That would solve the issues.you know what happens when more taxes increase?

People flock to Florida to avoid taxes. People hate more taxes.....


You all say tax the rich!

Who are the rich Clown? And can the 1% being taxed more solve the issues?

I don’t see Warren Buffet donating his entire 2019 income to help the poor. Why doesn’t he do that?

And not with a tax incentive for doing it.

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Where did I say entire income? See Mush? See how you read what I wrote with your spin and literally changed my words and idea?


Why would you do 75%?
Personally, I am a proponent of flat tax with no wiggle room. With a few caveats.
Individuals who make less than 25K are exempt. Couples under 40 are exempt. Each kid adds 10 K to that math (up to 3 kids). So a family of 5 would be exempt at 70K

If you make less than half a mil you are taxed at 12%
If you between a half mil and 2 mil you are taxed at 14. No write offs or deduction
Anything over that is. 16%. No write offs or deductions.

Businesses pay 16% of profit.
Bonuses are taxed at 30% up to 10 mil. Over that, they are taxed at 40%

If you live in this country, you must declare all income and holdings outside of the country. If you don't, you pay a huge penalty, as in 75%.

If you do not want to make this your residence, any income you make here is taxed at a higher rate.

Yes, the one percent being taxed more can help
So can the taxing the 5%
The 10%
The 15%

Taxing them brings the floor up for the lower 25%

I think you would also have to include a reworking of the corporate tax structure as well.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

I think you would also have to include a reworking of the corporate tax structure as well.

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I was alluding to that but I do't have the knowledge on what exactly to do. That's why is talked about bonuses, holdings....

I would actually give tax breaks on those bonuses to companies who paid a higher wage and gave better benefits.

If you are treating your workers well, no need to take more from you.