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05-01-2020, 08:05 PM
goingfor28

Run them all over
05-01-2020, 08:08 PM
OhSoSlick

Couldn't have said it better myself. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...21784e4ef3.jpg

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05-01-2020, 09:51 PM
Posada20

DNC can easily push Biden out and someone else in since he doesn’t have the required delegates to be the nominee yet . Then there is also the option for the dnc establishment to force Biden to turn down the nomination allowing someone else to step in.
05-01-2020, 10:07 PM
drt1010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Posada20

DNC can easily push Biden out and someone else in since he doesn’t have the required delegates to be the nominee yet . Then there is also the option for the dnc establishment to force Biden to turn down the nomination allowing someone else to step in.

Easily? When was the last time a nominee was ousted? No chance. I will admit some within the party wish he was more aggressive. Some feel Cuomo would be a sure bet, just political pundits exercising their right to free speech.

Imo his choice of a VP will be critical.
05-01-2020, 10:16 PM
Posada20

Last time someone on the ballot was removed from the ballot before Election Day, was in 1972 and it was a Democrat . Their vice presidential nominee was forced to step Down .

https://ballotpedia.org/State_laws_a...ential_nominee
05-02-2020, 12:23 AM
NJBASEBALL22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

No mush, the virus caused deaths. No country, organization or person caused death. Is WHO responsible? Maybe to an extent. Is China? Yes, to an extent.

Is Trump? Yes. He is more responsible for what happened in this country than either of those other two.
He lied from the start about numbers and tests. He lied. He continues to lie.
Is Trump responsible for the virus? No.

He is responsible and should be held accountable, like any person, for his words and actions. He is also the president, so this words and actions have a very different responsibility than your's or mine. But he still needs to be accountable and responsible.
Do you agree with that statements? Just the above bolded statements? Do you agree or disagree?

He should be held accountable?? Lol. Good luck proving that in court... or even a sham impeachment hearing.

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05-02-2020, 12:26 AM
NJBASEBALL22

Quote:

Originally Posted by drt1010

Easily? When was the last time a nominee was ousted? No chance. I will admit some within the party wish he was more aggressive. Some feel Cuomo would be a sure bet, just political pundits exercising their right to free speech.

Imo his choice of a VP will be critical.

It would look incredible bad if the Dems push Biden out, will make the party look weak and like a joke

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05-02-2020, 12:31 AM
dayners81

Just out of curiosity why do you guys think Cuomo would be the choice to beat Trump. Not defending Trumps handling of this but its not like Cuomo handled everything like a pro either. Is it just because Cuomo has been so publicly involved in this that he would give Trump more of a run than Biden who has been pretty quiet for a while and now has the rape allegations ?
05-02-2020, 01:27 AM
metswon69

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Just out of curiosity why do you guys think Cuomo would be the choice to beat Trump. Not defending Trumps handling of this but its not like Cuomo handled everything like a pro either. Is it just because Cuomo has been so publicly involved in this that he would give Trump more of a run than Biden who has been pretty quiet for a while and now has the rape allegations ?

Cuomo's press conferences have done him a lot of favors. He looks and sounds the part of a leader through adversity. He says the right things and taking McConnell to the woodshed scored him a lot of points with most people not living in Kentucky. I like Cuomo more than I like Biden but politicians are politicians all the same and Andrew learned that game from his father who was also governor of NY. Cuomo has blood on his hands here too but the Democrats need a shot in the arm that Biden doesn't provide.

Sometimes you have to take on an ******* head on and nobody is better at taking the low road than Trump. He's going to mock Biden constantly. Joe will take the high ground while Cuomo presumably doesn't. And if he does, he has the moxy to make Trump look foolish.

If this had happened 6 months ago, I think Cuomo would have had a real shot. Its too late for that now.
05-02-2020, 01:40 AM
metswon69

The definition of a strong candidate has become about who has the best tv presence. Trump insulting and throwing around allegations in regards to his competition has really galvanized a whole culture of conservatives. It's why he constantly attacks the media. He projects it as "us vs them" when a good president should be trying to push bipartisanship.

That's why i'm pretty certain that even all of this, Trump will win in November. I don't know why because he's not doing **** for much of his base through this crisis, except for the super wealthy but many of those on the right will absolve him of anything. They will point the fingers at China, WHO, state governors, etc but somehow Trump did a great job and none of the 60,000+people who have died in the US is his fault.
05-02-2020, 02:27 AM
OhSoSlick

Nascar to be the first sport to open. No fans in the stands. Multiple races per week, all in the south in states that don't have a high # of cases.

Will be interesting to see how it goes. Not sure how I feel about it.

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05-02-2020, 04:18 AM
NJBASEBALL22

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Cuomo's press conferences have done him a lot of favors. He looks and sounds the part of a leader through adversity. He says the right things and taking McConnell to the woodshed scored him a lot of points with most people not living in Kentucky. I like Cuomo more than I like Biden but politicians are politicians all the same and Andrew learned that game from his father who was also governor of NY. Cuomo has blood on his hands here too but the Democrats need a shot in the arm that Biden doesn't provide.

Sometimes you have to take on an ******* head on and nobody is better at taking the low road than Trump. He's going to mock Biden constantly. Joe will take the high ground while Cuomo presumably doesn't. And if he does, he has the moxy to make Trump look foolish.

If this had happened 6 months ago, I think Cuomo would have had a real shot. Its too late for that now.

From what I’ve heard, Cuomo isn’t that well liked or well known outside of NY... and he wouldn’t want to blow any stock that he has built up to be a last second contender against Trump. Him running 2024 would be more likely

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05-02-2020, 06:44 AM
rrzubnyy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

No mush, the virus caused deaths. No country, organization or person caused death. Is WHO responsible? Maybe to an extent. Is China? Yes, to an extent.

Is Trump? Yes. He is more responsible for what happened in this country than either of those other two.
He lied from the start about numbers and tests. He lied. He continues to lie.
Is Trump responsible for the virus? No.

He is responsible and should be held accountable, like any person, for his words and actions. He is also the president, so this words and actions have a very different responsibility than your's or mine. But he still needs to be accountable and responsible.
Do you agree with that statements? Just the above bolded statements? Do you agree or disagree?

Clown, Trump got his information from the WHO.....How much money does the US fund them?

When someone you trust gives you info don’t you use that information to make important decisions?

He relied on the WHO and the CDC.

Again, in Mid January the WHO said human transmission from the virus was not possible....

HUMAN TRANSMISSION WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

Think Clown........

And what bad did Trump do?

I gotta see a list of this.
05-02-2020, 06:46 AM
rrzubnyy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

No mush, the virus caused deaths. No country, organization or person caused death. Is WHO responsible? Maybe to an extent. Is China? Yes, to an extent.

Is Trump? Yes. He is more responsible for what happened in this country than either of those other two.
He lied from the start about numbers and tests. He lied. He continues to lie.
Is Trump responsible for the virus? No.

He is responsible and should be held accountable, like any person, for his words and actions. He is also the president, so this words and actions have a very different responsibility than your's or mine. But he still needs to be accountable and responsible.
Do you agree with that statements? Just the above bolded statements? Do you agree or disagree?

Accountable for what?

For something China caused and the WHO which gave recommendations to Countries?

Really?
05-02-2020, 06:51 AM
rrzubnyy

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

We can put 2 and 2 together. Buy what you are saying is nowhere near 2 and 2. You math analogy is very flawed.

More deaths will occur if that were to happen and those deaths would happen not from the virus, figure it out, put 2 and 2 together

That is not 2 and 2. It's Naiver-Stokes

Aside from that, the primary desire of all the experts I have read and heard, is to make sure testing and contact tracing are ready to go and of an excellent quality.
This is something that could and should have been under rapid development a preparation over that last 2-3 months. If it had been made a priority, we would be ready to safely reopen.

The reason we have seen fewer deaths is absolutely because of distancing. The rest of the country got to learn from NYC. They were overwhelmed. Make no mistake about that. Other states moving quickly because of that, is the reason they were able to slow the spread.

The man is gambling with human life and they are not lives with which he associates.

The spread was slowed down some due to his guidelines.

Now the food hoarding and panic buying was attributed to by the news media. They are a disgrace.

They Put fear but showing DEATH each minute on a ticker like a game clock during a basketball game.

They way they talk is like whoever gets it will die soon. And that is far from the case..

All cases and the ones who are a-symptomatic make the actual death rate very low. It the 7-12% rate the damn media has been portraying.

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