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04-30-2020, 03:19 PM
Kinkotheclown

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Like 25 or more. I'm not justifying what Biden did if true but the Trump campaign and his constituents have a lot of balls to talk about sexual misconduct/assault when Donald Trump talks about grabbing women by their ******* and when there are so many women who have accused Trump of similar behavior.

Again, this is why Biden is going to have a hard time winning this election. Democrats are clearly split on him and for the right reasons. He needs to have a stronger presence and try to get the Bernie crowd on board somehow otherwise we're going to be looking at another 4 years of this idiot in office.

I think we have 4 more years.
My feeling is still that the Dems don't have a viable candidate they want to throw into the **** storm that Trump will leave behind.
Biden is either a sacrificial lamb that will allow the next candidate to be the savior of the country or if Biden wins, he's a one term president and will step down after one term and possible in his first term.
I don't think he has the fuel for a campaign and more than a term.

I suspect after this election we see extremely different candidates from both sides.

The democratic party needs to stop being safe but also not do stuff just to say they did it.
They need legitimate candidates. They have let PC enter into the equation in the worst possible way.
Pick good candidates regardless of what, race, religion, sex or gender you would like to see.
Yes we all want to see a woman president. But don't push one because she's a woman. If she is the best one? Awesome. Full steam ahead. But don't pick people because it's their turn.

If they had done that last time, we wouldn't be here.
04-30-2020, 03:21 PM
Kinkotheclown

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Originally Posted by drt1010

I don't disagree, not sure how "clearly" split they are, but there is dissension in the ranks. Most critics would prefer a stronger, more charismatic presence. Truth is Biden is a nice guy, always has been. Some D's are afraid in a street fight, that may get in the gutter, he can't compete or even hold his own.

As of this moment he and the campaign are denying the sexual misconduct allegations.

I feel Bernie needs to do more for the party. His "Bros" at times are doing more harm than good.

I think Bernie will campaign for whomever ends up running.

Getting to where he wants us to be right now, with Trump in office is like wanting to walk from Cali to NYC. You're not getting there in one push. Biden gets him at least across the rockies and maybe into Nebraska. It's a shorter walk from there.
04-30-2020, 03:28 PM
Kinkotheclown

"Our blueprint describes how states should unlock their full capacity, expand the number of testing platforms, establish monitoring systems to detect local outbreaks, and conduct contact tracing. We have it all," Trump said April 27.

“We’ve gotten good at tracing,” he claimed days earlier, during a press briefing on April 23.

“We don’t have the scale that we need — we don’t have even close to the scale we need,” Crystal Watson, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and an assistant professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health,

“We’ve gotta get out of this cycle of being behind the pandemic and chasing it and get ahead on it,” Slavitt said.

“Testing without contact tracing doesn’t do any good — it’s not going to keep the economy open,” he added. “The reality is you need to do both.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...id-19-n1195621

Once again, Donnie and misinformation.
This is one article detailing two experts who disagree with him. There are plenty more articles with plenty more experts saying the same.
Our tracing and testing 8 weeks into this still sucks.
04-30-2020, 04:00 PM
drt1010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

I think we have 4 more years.
My feeling is still that the Dems don't have a viable candidate they want to throw into the **** storm that Trump will leave behind.
Biden is either a sacrificial lamb that will allow the next candidate to be the savior of the country or if Biden wins, he's a one term president and will step down after one term and possible in his first term.
I don't think he has the fuel for a campaign and more than a term.

I suspect after this election we see extremely different candidates from both sides.

The democratic party needs to stop being safe but also not do stuff just to say they did it.
They need legitimate candidates. They have let PC enter into the equation in the worst possible way.
Pick good candidates regardless of what, race, religion, sex or gender you would like to see.
Yes we all want to see a woman president. But don't push one because she's a woman. If she is the best one? Awesome. Full steam ahead. But don't pick people because it's their turn.

If they had done that last time, we wouldn't be here.

Clown we are in disagreement on this one. I honestly believe Hillary was the "right" candidate. She was experienced and qualified. Most men running don't have her credentials. No, imo the country is NOT ready for a woman. I strongly believe sexism played a role in the election, as did Comey. Too often the puritan male ethos wins out in situations of significant consequence. Benghazi? Come on, 18 months, multiple appearances to testify and what did they find? Zilch. But like her e-mails, those that needed a reason to turn their back on the party clung to the opportunity. Many were looking for an excuse to bail.

I don't think the country can withstand 4 more years. The potential damage could be serious and permanent. I am not in love with Biden. I would feel safer and much more comfortable if he were in office. Hell I would consider Justin Amash a better choice than Trump. At this point it's no longer about party. It's about survival of the democracy. I believe the republic is in jeopardy.
04-30-2020, 04:01 PM
drt1010

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

I think Bernie will campaign for whomever ends up running.

Getting to where he wants us to be right now, with Trump in office is like wanting to walk from Cali to NYC. You're not getting there in one push. Biden gets him at least across the rockies and maybe into Nebraska. It's a shorter walk from there.

He may go thru the motions. But it will be devoid of passion or conviction.
04-30-2020, 06:37 PM
OhSoSlick

This was written online by a guy from my fire house who is also a full time paramedic with a local agency. His wife is a cop and they two young children.

In what I've also seen, he is spot on. Figured I'd share.

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04-30-2020, 07:07 PM
metswon69

Another 4 million people filed for unemployment this week. Now over 30 million people but McConnell wants states like California and New York file for bankruptcy.
04-30-2020, 07:32 PM
dayners81

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Originally Posted by RCSownsU

This was written online by a guy from my fire house who is also a full time paramedic with a local agency. His wife is a cop and they two young children.

In what I've also seen, he is spot on. Figured I'd share.

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hell of a post and he's right. I know some on here have dealt with this thing but most of us haven't seen it head on like this man and his wife have. If nothing else but for respect for our 1st res ponders and other peoples lives, even if there to stupid not to care themselves, should stay inside away from other people as much as possible. Do whatever we have to do to make sure to continue to stay home till we know the worst is behind us
04-30-2020, 08:43 PM
flimflamman

I drove by Yankee Stadium and the South Western Bronx not to see the Stadium but to see neighborhoods like High Bridge, West Fordham, Kingsbridge, and West Burnside. If any of you folks are Bronx transplants people the areas are quiet. Yankee Stadium brought me some happiness to see it.
04-30-2020, 09:14 PM
metswon69

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r8yOv4PwttM
04-30-2020, 09:20 PM
OhSoSlick

Thanks to whoever moved it on my behalf.

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04-30-2020, 09:22 PM
drt1010

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Originally Posted by RCSownsU

Thanks to whoever moved it on my behalf.

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No prob, you're welcome.
04-30-2020, 09:32 PM
drt1010

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Originally Posted by metswon69

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r8yOv4PwttM

"It will go away." My only concern is waiting for the day HE will go away!

How ignorant. In the face of 60K+ deaths he continues to defend the absurd narrative. This is a narcissistic mind at work folks. He can not admit fault or failure. He denies reality in a desperate attempt to bolster his faulty sense of self. No empathy, no awareness. The man is a void. Empty, constantly searching for admiration to fill the emptiness.
04-30-2020, 09:52 PM
spliff(TONE)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCSownsU

This was written online by a guy from my fire house who is also a full time paramedic with a local agency. His wife is a cop and they two young children.

In what I've also seen, he is spot on. Figured I'd share.

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04-30-2020, 09:55 PM
goingfor28

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Originally Posted by metswon69

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r8yOv4PwttM

I mean, he's not wrong. It will eventually go away.

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