Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Crovash

The ultimate actions of a shameful society. Just like with the environment, we are perfectly willing to burden — no, decimate — our children and grandchildren because we are so short-sighted and self-centered.

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Nature and its creatures are wonderful. On the other hand I could care less about your kids/grandkids


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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

oh we aren't getting free college, nor should we. But, there are PLENTY of things we should strive to get, that are realistic. Affordable health care should be at the top, obviously. Fixing the justice/prison system, and environmental reform (along with health care) are the 3 that should be attainable through joint effort and compromise.

Manram, I love your spirit, but there is no way we get everything she wants. Not in this lifetime.

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It's not about instant gratification. If we brush off people for aspiring to unrealistic goals in the current climate, then we can never place enough of them to change the climate to where they are no longer unrealistic goals. You can still have a grand mindset whilst settling for what you can currently get.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

I do love that she is calling out the complete irony of the system though. Lobbyists are at the Congressional orientation haha. Like, shouldn't they be the last group there? If you want everything fixed like she does, it starts with completely overhauling our senate/house.

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Walter_White

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That's not a threat. Certainly not any kind of threat out of what you would call mainstream politics. I refuse to quote you because your posts are such a long, garbled up mess.

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How isn’t that a threat? “It’s a def an idea to troll a person who will have subpoena power in a month”

That clearly seems like a threat


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Oh goodness.

There’s fans of hers.

My goodness.

Has anyone heard her speak? And I’m not talking about the sound bytes on Insta.

Wow.

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Originally Posted by MarcCrawford

Oh goodness.

There’s fans of hers.

My goodness.

Has anyone heard her speak? And I’m not talking about the sound bytes on Insta.

Wow.

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Yes, can you be as specific as possible as to what she has said that bothers you so?

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Originally Posted by MarcCrawford

Oh goodness.

There’s fans of hers.

My goodness.

Has anyone heard her speak? And I’m not talking about the sound bytes on Insta.

Wow.

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I know all that optimism and hope is maddening!!

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Originally Posted by ewing

Nature and its creatures are wonderful. On the other hand I could care less about your kids/grandkids

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Nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Nonsense.

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Don’t tell me what to care about. You think we are going down a road that will make things difficult on future generations but you decided to have kids. I care about myself and my love ones of a lot more your lineage. Doesn’t mean their welfare is irreverent to me but this idea that it’s supposed to central for me is silly.


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Originally Posted by ewing

Don’t tell me what to care about. You think we are going down a road that will make things difficult on future generations but you decided to have kids. I care about myself and my love ones of a lot more your lineage. Doesn’t mean their welfare is irreverent to me but this idea that it’s supposed to central for me is silly.


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I believe what he’s trying to say is that you should care about his grandkids and others from families you’ve never met before because they could just as easily be your grandkids. With something as vast and disparate as the climate, it doesn’t only impact one family, a small region, or even a particular continent. Something as wide reaching as that will impact us all and by extension any of our future family both born now and potentially born in the future.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

I believe what he’s trying to say is that you should care about his grandkids and others from families you’ve never met before because they could just as easily be your grandkids. With something as vast and disparate as the climate, it doesn’t only impact one family, a small region, or even a particular continent. Something as wide reaching as that will impact us all and by extension any of our future family both born now and potentially born in the future.

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Ewing > Crovash's grand kids

If he wants to put his grand kids before himself that's fine. I take no issue with his willingness to put them before himself. expecting others to feel the same is silly.

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Originally Posted by ewing

Ewing > Crovash's grand kids

If he wants to put his grand kids before himself that's fine. I take no issue with his willingness to put them before himself. expecting others to feel the same is silly.

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But the point is that what affects his grandkids is going to affect yours on this scale. None of these things are targeted genetically to only affect black people, white people, rich people, poor people, people in North America, people in China...etc.

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Originally Posted by ewing

Nature and its creatures are wonderful. On the other hand I could care less about your kids/grandkids

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Nonsense.

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Originally Posted by ewing

Don’t tell me what to care about. You think we are going down a road that will make things difficult on future generations but you decided to have kids. I care about myself and my love ones of a lot more your lineage. Doesn’t mean their welfare is irreverent to me but this idea that it’s supposed to central for me is silly.

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I'm surprised at you. You missed it completely.

The correct phrase to communicate what I believe you intend is "I couldn't care less." Look it up: your phrasing actually means that you do care, which is nonsensical following "on the other hand."

For someone who trades on pithy linguistic nuance, you screwed the pooch on this one.

And what's this about irreverence? Are you drunk this early in the morning?

Also, read my original post. I was talking about the shame of American society as a whole. In that context I said "our" children, not just mine, meaning our collective progeny of a nation, including your alleged "loved ones".

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Originally Posted by Walter_White

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That's not a threat. Certainly not any kind of threat out of what you would call mainstream politics. I refuse to quote you because your posts are such a long, garbled up mess.

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stop. it was a threat. this is something simple that everyone should be able to identify.
she may not have intended it to come off as a threat, but that shows how stupid she is.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

I'm surprised at you. You missed it completely.

The correct phrase to communicate what I believe you intend is "I couldn't care less." Look it up: your phrasing actually means that you do care, which is nonsensical following "on the other hand."

For someone who trades on pithy linguistic nuance, you screwed the pooch on this one.

And what's this about irreverence? Are you drunk this early in the morning?

Also, read my original post. I was talking about the shame of American society as a whole. In that context I said "our" children, not just mine, meaning our collective progeny of a nation, including your alleged "loved ones".

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You are correct. I just hate when people want me to jump to action b/c of there kids or grand kids. Plus I was having a little fun