Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I have heard nothing at all about immigration from Canada.
6 is such a small number it's nothing compared to anything at the southern border.

what specific policies would be more racist?

Trump has called for legal merit based immigration.

in order to show that Trump is against legal immigration one would have to show that Trump wants to stop all immigration. not limiting legal immigration because that itself is still wanting legal immigration.

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yes it is.
there would be 2 comparable sexual orientations. gay and straight. gay pride is apparently great, they have parades. so why would it not be the same to have pride for being straight. that is not equality, that is hypocritical.

if anyone actually wants real equality then things should be EQUAL for both gay and straight.

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If you had taken 5 seconds to even glance at the article you would have realized that was just people going for a visit for a day or two and not immigrating. 6 in two weeks who went to the same law firm is enough that you should be wondering how often US border agents are turning visitors away for no reason other than what appears to be their religion.

And no, don’t have to show that Trump is against all immigration to make my point. You just fail to acknowledge that he targets certain groups. That’s your own issue to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

If you had taken 5 seconds to even glance at the article you would have realized that was just people going for a visit for a day or two and not immigrating. 6 in two weeks who went to the same law firm is enough that you should be wondering how often US border agents are turning visitors away for no reason other than what appears to be their religion.

And no, don’t have to show that Trump is against all immigration to make my point. You just fail to acknowledge that he targets certain groups. That’s your own issue to deal with.

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You are asking too much. Please readjust your expectations accordingly.

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Originally Posted by kevin13697

Upon further review, this was not a quote from Jefferson. Don't believe everything you read on the internet:o

We must consider long-term interests rather than short-term gratifications. To do this we must avoid impulses of passion and conflicts of interest. The American constitutional system is not a direct democracy but is a representative republic. According to classical theory, republics could exist only in relatively small territories, where citizens knew one another personally and could assemble face-to-face.
The internet has made the American democracy more inclusive than it was in the Founders’ day, amplifying the voices of women, minorities, and other disadvantaged groups they excluded. And although our national politics is deadlocked by partisanship, compromise remains possible at the local level, where activism is often organized online and can lead to real change.

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Nice sentiments, ones in which I agree. There's nothing actually in your paragraph that explains why the electoral college is a good idea or why abolishing it is a bad one however.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

If you had taken 5 seconds to even glance at the article you would have realized that was just people going for a visit for a day or two and not immigrating. 6 in two weeks who went to the same law firm is enough that you should be wondering how often US border agents are turning visitors away for no reason other than what appears to be their religion.

And no, don’t have to show that Trump is against all immigration to make my point. You just fail to acknowledge that he targets certain groups. That’s your own issue to deal with.

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6. show me where this is a continual problem. this is nowhere close to the southern border, where 6 can happen in under 1 minute. there is nothing close to a crisis at the northern border.

yes Trump targets a group, "illegal" immigrants. it's not about their race. it also wasn't about race when Democrats were also against illegal immigration before Trump was even a candidate. now Democrats have flipped because of politics.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

6. show me where this is a continual problem. this is nowhere close to the southern border, where 6 can happen in under 1 minute. there is nothing close to a crisis at the northern border.

yes Trump targets a group, "illegal" immigrants. it's not about their race. it also wasn't about race when Democrats were also against illegal immigration before Trump was even a candidate. now Democrats have flipped because of politics.

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I don’t believe I said anywhere that it was a crisis at the northern border. There are instances of this happening over the last couple years and there has been an increase of reported cases in the last few months. The purpose of bringing it up is that it is an example of border patrol targeting specific groups in a way that has nothing to do with illegal immigration which you continually claim is the only group Trump targets. Your failure to even register that is also an example of why people on here have issues with you. You accuse others of Trump Derangement Syndrome but are so hell bent on being right that you ignore anything that is against what you believe.

Another example is how you have failed to register how Trumps policies have made the situation at the southern border so much worse than when he got into office. Best of luck in trying to learn how to look at things from another perspective, might do you some good.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

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yes it is.
there would be 2 comparable sexual orientations. gay and straight. gay pride is apparently great, they have parades. so why would it not be the same to have pride for being straight. that is not equality, that is hypocritical.

if anyone actually wants real equality then things should be EQUAL for both gay and straight.

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Lmao, this is too stupid to even respond to.

Where would I even start?

You stay throwing curveballs fnk, I'll give you that much

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

I don’t believe I said anywhere that it was a crisis at the northern border. There are instances of this happening over the last couple years and there has been an increase of reported cases in the last few months. The purpose of bringing it up is that it is an example of border patrol targeting specific groups in a way that has nothing to do with illegal immigration which you continually claim is the only group Trump targets. Your failure to even register that is also an example of why people on here have issues with you. You accuse others of Trump Derangement Syndrome but are so hell bent on being right that you ignore anything that is against what you believe.

Another example is how you have failed to register how Trumps policies have made the situation at the southern border so much worse than when he got into office. Best of luck in trying to learn how to look at things from another perspective, might do you some good.

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6 is an increase?
you want to bring up the northern border that is not even relevant. show me where Trump has said anything about the northern border.
whatever is or isn't concerning with the northern border has nothing to do with the southern border. this border with Mexico with significantly more people illegally crossing the border is what Trump has focused on, wanting to stop the illegal immigration, calling for legal merit based immigration. you deflect to the northern border, why?

no policy excuses illegally crossing the border. that would be like saying a new law excuses stealing so the stealing is now totally fine. no, it's still stealing and still illegal.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Lmao, this is too stupid to even respond to.

Where would I even start?

You stay throwing curveballs fnk, I'll give you that much

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do you understand what equality means? it doesn't mean this group gets X while the other group does not. that is literally not equal.

if having gay pride is okay, then having straight pride should equally be okay. people claim they want equality, but they are liars.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

No, they held them for hours and questioned them.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5264218

And before you say, well that’s just 6 people, it’s 6 people in two weeks who have gone to the same law firm.

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Try to think it through just a tad.

The article says nothing about the reason they were denied access.

Do you really think a couple of border patrol agents got together and said "here comes some Muslims, let's bust their chops and deny entry just for the hell of it."?

Or…

Do you think that for some reason, whatever reason, these people were linked to some list that caused some sort of an issue? Something we are not privy to.

Which of those two situations do you think is more plausible?

And…

Are all Muslims being denied entry or just theses six. If other Muslims are freely coming into the US and these six were denied entry then it is not too much of a stretch to assume their names are linked to something we are not aware of.

But…

People like you just assume the worst in an effort to paint Trump and the US in a bad light. And you succeeded. Nice job.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

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do you understand what equality means? it doesn't mean this group gets X while the other group does not. that is literally not equal.

if having gay pride is okay, then having straight pride should equally be okay. people claim they want equality, but they are liars.

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According to your logic we are a hypocritical society for not allowing 2 year olds to drink alcohol. I dont buy this thing you're selling.

Listen, we need to leave the straight pride parades alone. The closeted men and self-hating that go to them and want to meet other similarly closested and self-hating men and blow off some steam. The reason people go to straight pride parades is because they hate the fact that they are or suspect they are gay. Nobody needs to prove to themselves they're straight unless they don't think they are.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Try to think it through just a tad.

The article says nothing about the reason they were denied access.

Do you really think a couple of border patrol agents got together and said "here comes some Muslims, let's bust their chops and deny entry just for the hell of it."?

Or…

Do you think that for some reason, whatever reason, these people were linked to some list that caused some sort of an issue? Something we are not privy to.

Which of those two situations do you think is more plausible?

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First one EASILY.

EASILY

lots of things changed after 9/11

*its funny how diff things seem from the inside vs the outside

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Originally Posted by nastynice

First one EASILY.

EASILY

lots of things changed after 9/11

*its funny how diff things seem from the inside vs the outside

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You'd be amazed at how hilarious, petty and embarassing it looks like from the outside

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Listen, we need to leave the straight pride parades alone. The closeted men and self-hating that go to them and want to meet other similarly closested and self-hating men and blow off some steam. The reason people go to straight pride parades is because they hate the fact that they are or suspect they are gay. Nobody needs to prove to themselves they're straight unless they don't think they are.

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As a matter of fairness, I am perfectly fine with people showing white pride or straight pride (or black pride or Hispanic or gay etc. etc.).

But when they show themselves to go from a celebration of culture or whatever to hate of others they should be mocked and addressed in the same way we would other supremacists. And that goes for everyone really.

I also think other people not a part of these celebrations should be able to take part and enjoy in these cultural celebrations as well without any fear of ‘appropriating’.

The more we celebrate each other’s past cultures the better off we’ll all be in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by DeW-Star

But when they show themselves to go from a celebration of culture or whatever to hate of others they should be mocked and addressed in the same way we would other supremacists. And that goes for everyone really.

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Agreed

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Originally Posted by nastynice

According to your logic we are a hypocritical society for not allowing 2 year olds to drink alcohol. I dont buy this thing you're selling.

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this post didn't address anything that I said. is having pride in one's sexuality okay or not. it shouldn't matter whether someone is gay or straight, they should be allowed to be proud of that. that is equality. one side being allowed to have pride and the other side is not, is not equality.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

First one EASILY.

EASILY

lots of things changed after 9/11

*its funny how diff things seem from the inside vs the outside

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this is your bias and not reality.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Listen, we need to leave the straight pride parades alone. The closeted men and self-hating that go to them and want to meet other similarly closested and self-hating men and blow off some steam. The reason people go to straight pride parades is because they hate the fact that they are or suspect they are gay. Nobody needs to prove to themselves they're straight unless they don't think they are.

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maybe in the future people will not be judged on things like gay or straight and their sexual identity wont make a difference. we are not there right now.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

this post didn't address anything that I said. is having pride in one's sexuality okay or not. it shouldn't matter whether someone is gay or straight, they should be allowed to be proud of that. that is equality. one side being allowed to have pride and the other side is not, is not equality.

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Fnk stop saying these type a things

People have never been persecuted for being straight. Agree or disagree, there is a clear objective difference between the two, and why having a pride parade is inherently different for one vs the other.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Fnk stop saying these type a things

People have never been persecuted for being straight. Agree or disagree, there is a clear objective difference between the two, and why having a pride parade is inherently different for one vs the other.

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who is persecuted now for being gay?
no doubt there was a time when being gay was not as accepted as it is now, but it's not the same anymore. for years now people have been pushing for equality, and that alone should mean equality for everyone gay or straight.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

who is persecuted now for being gay?
no doubt there was a time when being gay was not as accepted as it is now, but it's not the same anymore. for years now people have been pushing for equality, and that alone should mean equality for everyone gay or straight.

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Gay people are persecuted now for being gay. Who else?

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Gay people are persecuted now for being gay. Who else?

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It's ok not to see it. Religious groups being given the right to bar people who are gay from adopting...

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

who is persecuted now for being gay?

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Gay people.

Although it's quite cute that you think people pushing for equality = equality.

You keep your head in the sand for anything but your corner of Twitter, huh. This is comically dense and ignorant, even for someone at such a crippling disadvantage as you.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Gay people are persecuted now for being gay. Who else?

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not like in the past.

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Originally Posted by browski234

Gay people.

Although it's quite cute that you think people pushing for equality = equality.

You keep your head in the sand for anything but your corner of Twitter, huh. This is comically dense and ignorant, even for someone at such a crippling disadvantage as you.

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your posts are comically dense and I love it.

how about wanting to treat everyone the same. :shrug:

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/nati...e-ad-genocide/

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Republican PAC runs debate ad comparing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to genocidal Khmer Rouge

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The clip opens with ominous music and a portrait of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) bursting into flames to reveal a pile of skulls.

“This is the face of socialism and ignorance,” the narrator intones. “Does Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez know the horror of socialism?”

The jarring ad, which aired on ABC during Thursday’s Democratic presidential debate in Houston, compares the freshman Democrat’s support of democratic socialism to the communist Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia that killed nearly 2 million people in the 1970s.

Democrats argue over health care and other core issues — and the direction of the party

The spot, funded by a newly formed Republican PAC and narrated by a recently defeated California GOP candidate, prompted Ocasio-Cortez to accuse its producers of racism and critics to question why ABC approved the ad. (The network didn’t immediately respond to messages on Thursday night.)

“Know that this wasn’t an ad for young conservatives of color — that was the pretense,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. “What you just watched was a love letter to the GOP’s white supremacist case.”

The ad was produced by New Faces GOP, a PAC that aims to bring “candidate [sic] from all races, ethnicities, gender, or geography” to the Republican Party. The Fresno-based organization is fronted by Elizabeth Heng, who lost in November to Rep. Jim Costa (D-Calif.) in a 16th Congressional District race; he received 54 percent of the vote to her 46 percent.

Heng narrates the ad by highlighting her family’s story. Her parents, Chieu Heng and Siv Khoeu, survived the Khmer Rouge regime under Pol Pot, during which roughly a quarter of the country’s population died from summary executions, famine, disease and overwork from 1975 to 1979. Her parents eventually made their way to Fresno, where they have operated a market for 25 years, the Fresno Bee reported.

In the ad that aired on Thursday, Heng draws a direct line from her parents’ traumatic story to the policies supported by Ocasio-Cortez.

“My father was minutes away from death in Cambodia,” Heng says. “That’s socialism. Forced obedience, starvation.”

Heng also suggests her story shows the room for diversity in a GOP increasingly defined by President Trump’s white identity politics.

“Mine is a face of freedom. My skin is not white. I’m not outrageous, racist, or socialist,” she says. “I’m a Republican.”

Ocasio-Cortez, though, argued that by marrying her portrait with such violent imagery, the ad actually made the opposite point.

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this is what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said..

apparently Asian Elizabeth Heng is a racist white supremacist. :shrug:

this is why the use of racist and white supremacist has become idiotic. it's used to manipulate people for a political agenda. it's straight up ignorant.

AOC is just stupid.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/nati...e-ad-genocide/




this is what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said..

apparently Asian Elizabeth Heng is a racist white supremacist. :shrug:

this is why the use of racist and white supremacist has become idiotic. it's used to manipulate people for a political agenda. it's straight up ignorant.

AOC is just stupid.

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Post all that and there’s no comment about a California Republican running an ad about a New York Democrat comparing her to the Khmer Rouge lol. If this was an add by the Democrats comparing Trump to Hitler you would be irate and would completely ignore the dumb **** that would inevitably come out of his mouth as a result.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

this is why the use of racist and white supremacist has become idiotic. it's used to manipulate people for a political agenda. it's straight up ignorant.

AOC is just stupid.

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So someone comparing Trump to Hitler/Mao is wrong and violent rhetoric but someone comparing AOC to genocide in Khmer is OK? That is also violent rhetoric.

You stated you denounce violent rhetoric from both sides. So why are you not denouncing this?

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Originally Posted by valade16

So someone comparing Trump to Hitler/Mao is wrong and violent rhetoric but someone comparing AOC to genocide in Khmer is OK? That is also violent rhetoric.

You stated you denounce violent rhetoric from both sides. So why are you not denouncing this?

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Comparing Trump to anything short of god is unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

I don't disagree with your premise, I simply think if an extremist gets in the oval office, it causes divide, versus positive direction.

We all saw the office can humble a man with Obama, whose inexperience was blasted by the right. And he was just fine overall. Maybe she would be the same.

This will sound terrible, and it likely is. I can't possibly vote for a latina woman to make decisions that matter. I have never met one that isn't fire engine red when they get upset and act impulsively instead of rationally.

If she can get the backing/funding, I would love to see where she can go. But she won't make it to the top imo. Too extreme and already lacking the facts.

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Wait. This is racist and sexist as ****. What the hell

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Originally Posted by VCaintdead17

Wait. This is racist and sexist as ****. What the hell

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He's just being emo

A Latina woman drive him into the ground and he dealt with it cuz ... well, fire engine red impulsive Latina ***** is a powerful thing

She may not be the smoothest on the slate, but I've got to hand it to Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. She has taken a lot of crap (some deserved, some not) from a lot of people, and she's handled it well, though obviously not always in the best fashion.

Sure, being a Congresswoman with a high profile means you are going to be under a lot of scrutiny. It comes with the territory. I think her response to the PAC ad was reasonable (a hell of a lot more reasonable than I would have been).

For someone who is just a "kid", she's done okay.

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Originally Posted by VCaintdead17

Wait. This is racist and sexist as ****. What the hell

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I've probably met 2 or 3 women in my entire life that I would consider suitable for even low level public office. Conversely I've only met one man in my entire life that I would consider suitable for carrying a child to term (valade). Is this sexist of me?

Welp, sorry to all of those people in Miami. They need to start packing now because Miami isn't going to exist in a couple years.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Welp, sorry to all of those people in Miami. They need to start packing now because Miami isn't going to exist in a couple years.

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The climate-god requires sacrifice.

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Originally Posted by flea

I've probably met 2 or 3 women in my entire life that I would consider suitable for even low level public office. Conversely I've only met one man in my entire life that I would consider suitable for carrying a child to term (valade). Is this sexist of me?

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Yea.

And I'm pretty sexist myself..

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Originally Posted by flea

I've probably met 2 or 3 women in my entire life that I would consider suitable for even low level public office. Conversely I've only met one man in my entire life that I would consider suitable for carrying a child to term (valade). Is this sexist of me?

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yes... but not really... because it has more to do with you being an ******* than sexist.

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Originally Posted by flea

The climate-god requires sacrifice.

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Can't we just offer up Alexandria?

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Originally Posted by flips333

yes... but not really... because it has more to do with you being an ******* than sexist.

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Okay I take it back, I bet your b*#@h hips could carry a child too.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

not like in the past.

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So if I rape you with a baseball bat. Then rape you with a pool cue. It's like the pool cue isn't even a crime?

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Originally Posted by flea

Okay I take it back, I bet your b*#@h hips could carry a child too.

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Wait you can tell the size of my hips because I called you a name? So you are like an ******* and the amazing Kreskin?

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Originally Posted by flea

I've probably met 2 or 3 women in my entire life that I would consider suitable for even low level public office. Conversely I've only met one man in my entire life that I would consider suitable for carrying a child to term (valade). Is this sexist of me?

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You don't trust people in general....got it. The difference here is that he's literally saying she is unfit for office because she is Latina and a woman.

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Originally Posted by VCaintdead17

Wait. This is racist and sexist as ****. What the hell

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Wait! The self righteous one is racist?! Never saw that coming.