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Dream on. Most of these professors and high school teachers rarely do any memorable scholarly work.Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
You may be right about why tenure came to be, I can certainly see that, but now it's an excuse to keep their jobs. no matter what they do
Who still has secretaries other than the C Suite?Quote:
Originally Posted by warfelg
Again... the idea that college should be provided for ALL is garbage... Less than 25% of the population should be going to college if the test is Cost=Benefit
I have no issue with merit based funding but to act like it is a god given right with no standards is ridiculous.
Anyway, you do what you have to do if something is important to you no matter the cost.
I play poker with a guy who is a pharmacist... he had $300k in student loans at one point... you know what he did to pay it off? worked two jobs … one as a retail pharmacist and one in a hospital... he worked 75 hours a week for 5 years to pay off those loans and now only works the one job. Its a function of priorities
But here’s my thing:
Why should he have to work 2 jobs because he decided he wanted a better life? That’s absurd.
This response should be framed and hung on the wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinylman
Not to the guy who worked the two jobs and now has a better life.Quote:
Originally Posted by warfelg
And I’m not even a college for all because what I said got taken wrong.
If you get a degree and use it for public benefit, there should be a benefit on the loans for doing so. Like no interest paid, only the principal.
High school... why are we talking about high school. Of course they don't they are high school teachers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Who do you think brings you almost all the science that exists? Your ignorance on this topic is astounding.
The benefit of working for the public is…Quote:
Originally Posted by warfelg
usually better pay
Better Benefits
Retirement plan
Job security
It's why everyone wants these jobs.
I had a pretty good graphic designer leave my company to run a copy machine in the county sheriff's department. Went from a "creative" to a "button pusher" for slightly more money, union membership (can't get fired) and a great benefit package.
High school teachers also get tenure.Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
Your thought process on this topic is naive.
Because my one friend had it tough EVERYBODY should have it tough!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinylman
When you say it's a function of priorities, that holds true for our government as well. The Government could prioritize making college more affordable so your friend didn't have to go $300K into debt or work 2 jobs and 75 hours a week for 5 years.
You referred to professors... not High school teachers. I know **** all about tenure in primary schools. but that doesn't relate to why tenure exists in colleges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
naive is showing a lack of experience I assure you I understand tenure in colleges and the science it helps create.
Wrong on all 4 accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
When I worked in a township office I made $45k a year, if I went into the private sector I could have started at $75K a year.
My benefits, no vision, no dental, $100 co-pay, $50,000 deductible. Woo benefits.
Retirement plan....meh. Local government retirement means pension.
Job Security? Are you kidding? My position was up for public vote every 2 years if they still wanted the position.
Exactly. And what's funny is the worst offenders are state schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
who cares
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