Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

On a serious note, how do you provide these repirations? Does someone's estate get one? What about inflation? Interest rates?

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You’re joking right?

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Originally Posted by Crovash

You’re joking right?

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Of course. I take my soon to be four year old more seriously then special

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Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

Of course. I take my soon to be four year old more seriously then special

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Same with me and my dog. The good thing is that my dog almost never replies.

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Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

What does reparations for African Americans have to do with cancelling student loan debt. They literally have absolutely nothing to do with each other except for you inserting the word "reparations"

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that is the similarity, reparations.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Same with me and my dog. The good thing is that my dog almost never replies.

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If only you could emulate your dog.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

that is the similarity, reparations.

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You're the only one bringing up reparations. I've not heard anyone else in....ever bring up reparations for former college students.

Quit conflating the two

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Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

You're the only one bringing up reparations. I've not heard anyone else in....ever bring up reparations for former college students.

Quit conflating the two

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what would you rather call it?

those that have paid their student loan, what do they get?

they did what they should have. had they waited and not paid off their student loan, they too could have it wiped out. that's not fair. they should be reimbursed.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

what would you rather call it?

those that have paid their student loan, what do they get?

they did what they should have. had they waited and not paid off their student loan, they too could have it wiped out. that's not fair. they should be reimbursed.

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Well that's your opinion.

Comparing a race that has been opressed for some odd 200-300 years to people who graduated a generation ago is pretty ****ing dumb.

For starters, post secondary education was cheaper a generation ago as was the cost of living. A person could get a good paying job with one degree, now they multiple. I can go on and on.

They are not even close to being the same and the only one trying to make a (moronic) connection is you.

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Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

Well that's your opinion.

Comparing a race that has been opressed for some odd 200-300 years to people who graduated a generation ago is pretty ****ing dumb.

For starters, post secondary education was cheaper a generation ago as was the cost of living. A person could get a good paying job with one degree, now they multiple. I can go on and on.

They are not even close to being the same and the only one trying to make a (moronic) connection is you.

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I didn't intend to mean they were the same. if the use of that word wasn't the right meaning then fine, but the rest of what I said is much more important.

some people paid off the student loan. it's not fair for others to get theirs wiped away for nothing, while giving nothing back to those that did pay.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I didn't intend to mean they were the same. if the use of that word wasn't the right meaning then fine, but the rest of what I said is much more important.

some people paid off the student loan. it's not fair for others to get theirs wiped away for nothing, while giving nothing back to those that did pay.

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I don't really care about the use of the word, your comparing apples to oranges. An oppressed race ≠ college graduates. It probably isn't fair but I am a university graduate who has his debt paid off. I am all for free post secondary education and would not bat an eye if current debt is erased. Fair or not

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

If only you could emulate your dog.

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Good job on expanding your vocabulary. Keep using those multisyllabic words, and soon you, too, can join the ranks of the elite.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

how would one come up with reparations for African Americans?

I'm sure it could be worked out, how much they paid and how much they could/should get back.

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:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I didn't intend to mean they were the same. if the use of that word wasn't the right meaning then fine, but the rest of what I said is much more important.

some people paid off the student loan. it's not fair for others to get theirs wiped away for nothing, while giving nothing back to those that did pay.

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It is about correcting a wrong.

The boomer generations didn't have these crushing student debt loans, should we go back and make them paid the difference because of it? Just because people suffer from a policy doesn't mean we should continue that policy out of respect for their suffering. We wouldn't make any social improvement with that attitude.

Life isn't fair but we can at least correct the problems that cripple past students.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Good job on expanding your vocabulary. Keep using those multisyllabic words, and soon you, too, can join the ranks of the elite.

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pol·y·syl·lab·ic | ˌpälēsəˈlabik |
adjective
(of a word) having more than one syllable.
• using or characterized by words of many syllables: polysyllabic jargon.

This is what the nuns taught me.

And they weren't even professors.

I guess some dictionaries would recognize "multisyllabic." It might be one of those words that has "evolved."

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

We've been hearing that many of these jobs will be automated and otherwise eliminated for years now. The progress that HAS happened has eliminated some, repurposed some, and left the rest as they are. There's only so much automation you can do at a dairy facility, a meat packing plant, and a produce operation...and the end result still leaves many of those jobs in the unskilled labor category.

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But the number jobs that are unskilled labor won't increase dramatically over time, and if those jobs pay better than not working or people can be trained then current citizens who are on government assistance should get those jobs, it would definitely be better to train someone and pay the difference than pay someone to not work so some one from over the border could have a job.

I have a real issues with not being able to get skilled technical labor, in our industry people in Germany and Europe are formerly trained and there are no similar paths in the US.

One has to wonder what happens to beef with the green new deal, and if beef goes away, what about all the grain does it all convert to soy?

Markets change, with regulation, beef might be cheaper from Australia or South America in the future.

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

The other part of all this is....we are ALL descended from immigrants. Some just got here earlier than others did. Does that give us more right to be here? Two generations ago NONE of MY family was here....what if the country had the attitude 'we don't want you' when my grandparents wanted to come here to farm? Any idea where this country would be if not for all the immigrants that came in the early 1900s? Most of our grain and livestock farmers are descendents of those immigrants.

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My fathers side arrived in 1647 so pre-immigration laws of this country and probally had to pay to come here, my mothers parents arrived at Ellis Island about 1902 and had to have money and work to immigrate.

Historically immigration laws and quotas have changed based on the needs of the country, not the needs of the immigrants