Get some help budQuote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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Get some help budQuote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
That't about 4 times the rate that blacks vote for repubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
And why did so many blacks not vote in 2016 at all? Blacks casting vote was as much higher number during the two Obana elections? Why do you think that was??
I already answered this. Because for the first time in our entire national history, they had someone running that they could identify with. Someone who understood what they face in America as african americans. Damn right he brought them out. Now, if having black men or women run becomes the norm, then that number will fall back to the mean to much of a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Obama's run/win/presidency was absolutely historic for this country. For a million reasons.
Move to Maine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye15
There are all kinds of reasons why certain people vote for certain people, and frankly, those reasons are none of our business.
Candidate buys me a drink or two in exchange for my vote. So what?
That is 1/2 states (the other Colorado) my wife and I would entertain leaving MN for. Love MaineQuote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Maine would be great except for this thing that happens every year called WINTER. I despise the cold and would never move anywhere further north than where I am now (Virginia). I could move somewhere like Maine if I could pull a snowbird and live somewhere else in the winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye15
dude I live in Minnesota. Winter to me is nothing. In fact, literally ANY other state with occupancy (who lives in ND?) has a less harsh winter, unless we are talking Alaska.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15
You describe my situation — almost. I have a summer place in Maine, but for the winter I manage to go only as far south as Connecticut (where it is snowing right now), so I guess I’m not much of a migratory snowbird.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
With rank-choice voting in Maine, I’m really thinking of registering up there — if I can.
True, but then again I didn't argue rates I said in raw numbers more whites probably vote for candidates based on race than black people. Or to put it another way: 63% of white people is more than 95% of black people in the US...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
You're really going to go with that theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Here's another one…the vast majority of the people at a soccer game like soccer.
The point is, and you know this, is that 95% of black people voting one way is a good indicator that that group is not really considering the candidate's views. They're voting on the candidate's appearance not for the candidate's capabilities.
I love Maine too. I like most of New England. Nice people. When we were moving out of NYC, I wanted to go to New Hampshire but the wife didn't want months of cold weather. She was OK with a ten day ski trip, but months of it…no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye15
I skied all over most of New England but I never got upas far as Maine…a little too far. I have gone through there in the summer. All of New England is beautiful country.
Probably, but that still doesn't mean they're doing so based on the candidates race as you think because as I said, 90% of those same black voters voted for Democratic candidates John Kerry and Al Gore. This suggests the vote for a Democrat regardless, not a black person regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
But I'd also point out non-college graduate white people voted for Trump 67% and white evangelicals voted for Trump 77%. That is a good indicator that that group is not really considering the candidate's views.
So now I must ask: do you think someone voting for or against someone solely because of their religion is better or different than voting for or against someone solely because of their race?
Here's a good comparison for Sluggo.
If Ben Carson and not Donald Trump had won the Republican nomination do you think that 90% of black voters would have voted for Ben Carson and not Hillary Clinton?
You're better than me then. I hate it when the weather gets below 40 degrees so screw anything about 4 degree weather. Both of my dad's parents are from Pennsylvania and my mom's mother is from Newfoundland, so I have no idea where my aversion for the cold came from. Her dad was born and raised in Maryland. All I know is that the aversion exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye15