Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Hey, the price of a big mac hasn't risen a ridiculous amount over that span with respect to the cpi. In fact, it would be difficult to find any other goods or services that have. Tuition is out of control.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/08/...ising-tuition/

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Colleges just raise prices because they know the Government will pay it. If we had college loans setup like other countries do single payer, where the Government refused to grant loans to students going to colleges that raise their rates too much, those colleges would immediately cap their tuition rate increases.

If the Government got tough with colleges, you'd see instant turnaround. Start with the worst offenders and start working your way down colleges. There's no college in the US that wants to lose federal loan money, so they'd all immediately cease these massive rate increases.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Colleges just raise prices because they know the Government will pay it. If we had college loans setup like other countries do single payer, where the Government refused to grant loans to students going to colleges that raise their rates too much, those colleges would immediately cap their tuition rate increases.

If the Government got tough with colleges, you'd see instant turnaround. Start with the worst offenders and start working your way down colleges. There's no college in the US that wants to lose federal loan money, so they'd all immediately cease these massive rate increases.

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Exactly. Hopefully you can get through to him. I tried making the same argument but then he resorted back to one-liners because he couldn't refute that point.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

MORE GOVERNMENT!!!! This time it's gonna work.

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Oh but less government and less regulation...yeah that’s been historically great right? Everyone for themselves, **** the poor, **** the sick, **** blue collar workers, **** consumer rights and public safety, **** clean air and water...SMALL GOVERNMENT Coughcoughcouhh FOREVER!!!


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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

Oh but less government and less regulation...yeah that’s been historically great right? Everyone for themselves, **** the poor, **** the sick, **** blue collar workers, **** consumer rights and public safety, **** clean air and water...SMALL GOVERNMENT Coughcoughcouhh FOREVER!!!


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At one point it was affordable and that's what it should be now.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

At one point it was affordable and that's what it should be now.

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More people needed to be educated. Which requires a ramp up of costs to accommodate that. You also need to make it affordable for those people you need to educate, hence the grants/loans. The problem isn't that we are ramping up education. It's how we do it, and whom the burden falls under. You can't just leave an entire nation behind.

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Originally Posted by DeW-Star

More people needed to be educated. Which requires a ramp up of costs to accommodate that. You also need to make it affordable for those people you need to educate, hence the grants/loans. The problem isn't that we are ramping up education. It's how we do it, and whom the burden falls under. You can't just leave an entire nation behind.

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The data suggests government backed loans make college less affordable for all.

So you want single payer meaning college is free and the taxpayer foots the bill?

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

The data suggests government backed loans make college less affordable for all.

So you want single payer meaning college is free and the taxpayer foots the bill?

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With stipulations yes. And the colleges would have to rein in their unnecessary spending or they wouldn't get the subsidy and they'd be SOL. Believe it or not, when you are a very large entity, your bargaining power is also quite large. I also think that corporations should be footing a good portion of this bill with a tax on every position in which they demand a college degree. That will make them think hard and long about positional requirements.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

I know why so many psders like her. She just spouts off ****** talking points that make no sense.

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Tell me a politician who doesn’t. Hers make a lot more sense than others I could name, but that’s a different issue.

But seriously, who is your go-to national politician? Do you have one?

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

It's just like 75% of the politics forum.

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65% when you are not around for a while.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Hey, the price of a big mac hasn't risen a ridiculous amount over that span with respect to the cpi. In fact, it would be difficult to find any other goods or services that have. Tuition is out of control.

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Check out the minimum wage since the mid ‘60’s — in constant dollars it is down almost 40%. No wonder you can get your fill of fat good and cheap.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Check out the minimum wage since the mid ‘60’s — in constant dollars it is down almost 40%. No wonder you can get your fill of fat good and cheap.

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Yep and what WES said is absolutely correct. We often subsidize those wages with corporate welfare by having to pay for the welfare of many of the low level employees.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Check out the minimum wage since the mid ‘60’s — in constant dollars it is down almost 40%. No wonder you can get your fill of fat good and cheap.

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Was gonna say, it's pretty easy to not have a material increase in your product when your labor hasn't had a material increase in wages in that time either.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

At one point it was affordable and that's what it should be now.

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I’m just calling BS on the whole anti Big Gov argument. I mean I’d also call BS on the more govt extreme, but currently we need more regulations and oversight on corporate sectors by people who aren’t just profiting off the sector they are overseeing. Education, banking, usda....all of it


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Originally Posted by browski234

You’re on the record for supporting internment camps for Americans. “Stupid” ain’t allowed in your vocabulary.

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And you're now on the record for being clueless.

Congrats!

clueless to the benefits of internment camps?

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Originally Posted by valade16

Colleges just raise prices because they know the Government will pay it. If we had college loans setup like other countries do single payer, where the Government refused to grant loans to students going to colleges that raise their rates too much, those colleges would immediately cap their tuition rate increases.

If the Government got tough with colleges, you'd see instant turnaround. Start with the worst offenders and start working your way down colleges. There's no college in the US that wants to lose federal loan money, so they'd all immediately cease these massive rate increases.

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We didn't have this problem when the states actually funded their colleges.