Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Bolded…this is a bit hard to believe. They must have been told something. Awfully hard tyo believe the border agent simply said "no, turn around and go home."

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No, they held them for hours and questioned them.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5264218

And before you say, well that’s just 6 people, it’s 6 people in two weeks who have gone to the same law firm.

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Originally Posted by valade16

How is this any worse than an electoral college where forty nine percent of the people take away the rights of the other fifty one percent?

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Upon further review, this was not a quote from Jefferson. Don't believe everything you read on the internet:o

We must consider long-term interests rather than short-term gratifications. To do this we must avoid impulses of passion and conflicts of interest. The American constitutional system is not a direct democracy but is a representative republic. According to classical theory, republics could exist only in relatively small territories, where citizens knew one another personally and could assemble face-to-face.
The internet has made the American democracy more inclusive than it was in the Founders’ day, amplifying the voices of women, minorities, and other disadvantaged groups they excluded. And although our national politics is deadlocked by partisanship, compromise remains possible at the local level, where activism is often organized online and can lead to real change.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

straight pride. why is it okay to have gay pride but not okay to have straight pride. that is hypocritical.

if anyone wanting straight pride is doing so because they are anti gay then that is a problem. if people having straight pride just want to be equal then that should be good.

this would be comparable to Black Lives Matter, where BLM does not mean white lives don't matter. having straight pride should not mean they are against gay pride.

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this is why social media can be dangerous, any nut with a lot of followers post this nonsense.

super racist immigration policies. despite this issue with immigration being about illegal vs legal.

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lol, it's not hypocritical

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Originally Posted by nastynice

lol, it's not hypocritical

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All these straight pride parades are for us for people who are gay but hate themselves for being gay to socialize.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

Is it really about illegal vs legal? Have you read about the Canadian citizens who are being denied entry to the US without any reason being given? Oddly turns out they are all Muslim. Or how Trumps policies virtually eliminating legal immigration for most of these people and aid that was actually working in curtailing illegal immigration has resulted in the huge surge in illegal immigration? He’s made his bed, you can try justifying it all you want but the policies Trump has put in place are certainly open to the interpretation of being racist.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

No, they held them for hours and questioned them.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5264218

And before you say, well that’s just 6 people, it’s 6 people in two weeks who have gone to the same law firm.

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I have heard nothing at all about immigration from Canada.
6 is such a small number it's nothing compared to anything at the southern border.

what specific policies would be more racist?

Trump has called for legal merit based immigration.

in order to show that Trump is against legal immigration one would have to show that Trump wants to stop all immigration. not limiting legal immigration because that itself is still wanting legal immigration.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

lol, it's not hypocritical

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yes it is.
there would be 2 comparable sexual orientations. gay and straight. gay pride is apparently great, they have parades. so why would it not be the same to have pride for being straight. that is not equality, that is hypocritical.

if anyone actually wants real equality then things should be EQUAL for both gay and straight.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I have heard nothing at all about immigration from Canada.
6 is such a small number it's nothing compared to anything at the southern border.

what specific policies would be more racist?

Trump has called for legal merit based immigration.

in order to show that Trump is against legal immigration one would have to show that Trump wants to stop all immigration. not limiting legal immigration because that itself is still wanting legal immigration.

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yes it is.
there would be 2 comparable sexual orientations. gay and straight. gay pride is apparently great, they have parades. so why would it not be the same to have pride for being straight. that is not equality, that is hypocritical.

if anyone actually wants real equality then things should be EQUAL for both gay and straight.

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If you had taken 5 seconds to even glance at the article you would have realized that was just people going for a visit for a day or two and not immigrating. 6 in two weeks who went to the same law firm is enough that you should be wondering how often US border agents are turning visitors away for no reason other than what appears to be their religion.

And no, don’t have to show that Trump is against all immigration to make my point. You just fail to acknowledge that he targets certain groups. That’s your own issue to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

If you had taken 5 seconds to even glance at the article you would have realized that was just people going for a visit for a day or two and not immigrating. 6 in two weeks who went to the same law firm is enough that you should be wondering how often US border agents are turning visitors away for no reason other than what appears to be their religion.

And no, don’t have to show that Trump is against all immigration to make my point. You just fail to acknowledge that he targets certain groups. That’s your own issue to deal with.

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You are asking too much. Please readjust your expectations accordingly.

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Originally Posted by kevin13697

Upon further review, this was not a quote from Jefferson. Don't believe everything you read on the internet:o

We must consider long-term interests rather than short-term gratifications. To do this we must avoid impulses of passion and conflicts of interest. The American constitutional system is not a direct democracy but is a representative republic. According to classical theory, republics could exist only in relatively small territories, where citizens knew one another personally and could assemble face-to-face.
The internet has made the American democracy more inclusive than it was in the Founders’ day, amplifying the voices of women, minorities, and other disadvantaged groups they excluded. And although our national politics is deadlocked by partisanship, compromise remains possible at the local level, where activism is often organized online and can lead to real change.

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Nice sentiments, ones in which I agree. There's nothing actually in your paragraph that explains why the electoral college is a good idea or why abolishing it is a bad one however.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

If you had taken 5 seconds to even glance at the article you would have realized that was just people going for a visit for a day or two and not immigrating. 6 in two weeks who went to the same law firm is enough that you should be wondering how often US border agents are turning visitors away for no reason other than what appears to be their religion.

And no, don’t have to show that Trump is against all immigration to make my point. You just fail to acknowledge that he targets certain groups. That’s your own issue to deal with.

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6. show me where this is a continual problem. this is nowhere close to the southern border, where 6 can happen in under 1 minute. there is nothing close to a crisis at the northern border.

yes Trump targets a group, "illegal" immigrants. it's not about their race. it also wasn't about race when Democrats were also against illegal immigration before Trump was even a candidate. now Democrats have flipped because of politics.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

6. show me where this is a continual problem. this is nowhere close to the southern border, where 6 can happen in under 1 minute. there is nothing close to a crisis at the northern border.

yes Trump targets a group, "illegal" immigrants. it's not about their race. it also wasn't about race when Democrats were also against illegal immigration before Trump was even a candidate. now Democrats have flipped because of politics.

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I don’t believe I said anywhere that it was a crisis at the northern border. There are instances of this happening over the last couple years and there has been an increase of reported cases in the last few months. The purpose of bringing it up is that it is an example of border patrol targeting specific groups in a way that has nothing to do with illegal immigration which you continually claim is the only group Trump targets. Your failure to even register that is also an example of why people on here have issues with you. You accuse others of Trump Derangement Syndrome but are so hell bent on being right that you ignore anything that is against what you believe.

Another example is how you have failed to register how Trumps policies have made the situation at the southern border so much worse than when he got into office. Best of luck in trying to learn how to look at things from another perspective, might do you some good.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

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yes it is.
there would be 2 comparable sexual orientations. gay and straight. gay pride is apparently great, they have parades. so why would it not be the same to have pride for being straight. that is not equality, that is hypocritical.

if anyone actually wants real equality then things should be EQUAL for both gay and straight.

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Lmao, this is too stupid to even respond to.

Where would I even start?

You stay throwing curveballs fnk, I'll give you that much

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

I don’t believe I said anywhere that it was a crisis at the northern border. There are instances of this happening over the last couple years and there has been an increase of reported cases in the last few months. The purpose of bringing it up is that it is an example of border patrol targeting specific groups in a way that has nothing to do with illegal immigration which you continually claim is the only group Trump targets. Your failure to even register that is also an example of why people on here have issues with you. You accuse others of Trump Derangement Syndrome but are so hell bent on being right that you ignore anything that is against what you believe.

Another example is how you have failed to register how Trumps policies have made the situation at the southern border so much worse than when he got into office. Best of luck in trying to learn how to look at things from another perspective, might do you some good.

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6 is an increase?
you want to bring up the northern border that is not even relevant. show me where Trump has said anything about the northern border.
whatever is or isn't concerning with the northern border has nothing to do with the southern border. this border with Mexico with significantly more people illegally crossing the border is what Trump has focused on, wanting to stop the illegal immigration, calling for legal merit based immigration. you deflect to the northern border, why?

no policy excuses illegally crossing the border. that would be like saying a new law excuses stealing so the stealing is now totally fine. no, it's still stealing and still illegal.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Lmao, this is too stupid to even respond to.

Where would I even start?

You stay throwing curveballs fnk, I'll give you that much

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do you understand what equality means? it doesn't mean this group gets X while the other group does not. that is literally not equal.

if having gay pride is okay, then having straight pride should equally be okay. people claim they want equality, but they are liars.

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Originally Posted by Bramaca

No, they held them for hours and questioned them.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5264218

And before you say, well that’s just 6 people, it’s 6 people in two weeks who have gone to the same law firm.

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Try to think it through just a tad.

The article says nothing about the reason they were denied access.

Do you really think a couple of border patrol agents got together and said "here comes some Muslims, let's bust their chops and deny entry just for the hell of it."?

Or…

Do you think that for some reason, whatever reason, these people were linked to some list that caused some sort of an issue? Something we are not privy to.

Which of those two situations do you think is more plausible?

And…

Are all Muslims being denied entry or just theses six. If other Muslims are freely coming into the US and these six were denied entry then it is not too much of a stretch to assume their names are linked to something we are not aware of.

But…

People like you just assume the worst in an effort to paint Trump and the US in a bad light. And you succeeded. Nice job.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

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do you understand what equality means? it doesn't mean this group gets X while the other group does not. that is literally not equal.

if having gay pride is okay, then having straight pride should equally be okay. people claim they want equality, but they are liars.

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According to your logic we are a hypocritical society for not allowing 2 year olds to drink alcohol. I dont buy this thing you're selling.

Listen, we need to leave the straight pride parades alone. The closeted men and self-hating that go to them and want to meet other similarly closested and self-hating men and blow off some steam. The reason people go to straight pride parades is because they hate the fact that they are or suspect they are gay. Nobody needs to prove to themselves they're straight unless they don't think they are.