Antifa has a body count of zero. Wrestle with your tacit support of white supremacists first, pal. These two things are not equals. Far ****ing from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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Antifa has a body count of zero. Wrestle with your tacit support of white supremacists first, pal. These two things are not equals. Far ****ing from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
I've never seen him support white supremacists. I've only seen him support Trump, and in this case he's half right and you're half wrong. Trump most definitely should've made a stance against it day one, not day whatever. But you sitting here defending antifa because they haven't killed anyone is disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
Watching it might change the way you word this particular response. Meanwhile, the next time someone defames a politician you support, I’ll simply quote this.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
So, here you responded to me. And what did I say about Antifa (and yes, I am on the far left)? I’ll even help you out:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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Originally Posted by Crovash
They hate fascists. FNK hates POC. Yep, definitely the same thing.
Trump is a white nationalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
Nonsense. A white nationalist would have classic markers. Like a family member in the Klan. They would have taken advantage of their circumstance to discriminate against people of color. They would have advocated for disproportionate punishment for people who aren’t white by the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webslinger
Trump’s dad wasn’t in the KKK...Trump didn’t mark applicants to his apartments as C for colored...Trump didn’t for 20+ years after they were acquitted still advocate for the death penalty against the Central Park 5...oh I said didn’t and autocorrect should have changed it to did...
I don't support white supremacists, I have said this. please pay better attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
are you aware that violence is more than death. by your logic students in school shootings that were shot and survived don't count as victims, which if course is stupid and incorrect.
I don''t hate anyone. you don't pay attention and come up with your own ignorant conclusions. you're more hateful than I am. you don't see a problem with violent terrorists that will assault anyone. these are the people (Antifa) that you don't want to call out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
https://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sh...7#post32714427
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/...massey-antifa/
but they didn't die so ManRam logic is what happened was totally fine. apparently assault is okay. :shrug:Quote:
Marines Testify About the “Antifa Mob” They Say Attacked Them in Philly
“I could have died that day,” one of the marines told the court on Thursday morning.
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Originally Posted by Crovash
I'm not sure what you are getting at. that when a politician I support says something worth criticizing and I don't do that, you want to call me out? deal. I have already done this, including many different times when I said Trump was stupid for something he said.
literally anyone (Democrat/Republican/media/whatever) that say something worth criticizing then it should be criticized.
I don't have a problem with what you said about Antifa, I have a problem with the person above and what they have said (not said) about Antifa.
these type of hateful violent people should notbe supported, that includes Antifa, along with racist KKK/white nationalists (that I don't support ManRam).
What I’m getting at is very simple, and it has nothing to do with your attitude regarding Trump. It has to do with your attitude regarding Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez. She was defamed by a right-wing video, played in a public space, and your response was a tepid “if she wasn’t deserving...fine”.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Fine? All fine and good - let’s just move on?
Where’s your outrage?
Saving it up for another rant about Congresswoman Omar?
No, you said “the far left doesn’t seem to have a problem with Antifa”. As a member of the so-called far left, I had to inform you that “they may well have deserved a place on the video,” hardly an indication that I don’t have a problem with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Or should I have been more vitriolic in my comment?
FNK has been explained this all a million times. We don't need to keep doing this. Antifa hasn't been in the news for a long time, yet here we are! I've explained my stance on Antifa a million times and he keeps resorting to this. We don't need to pretend they're equal evils to the white supremacists and fascists they oppose. Because they aren't equal evils. Antifa can be bad, or evil..and still not be what he thinks they are. Which is, apparently, one of the biggest threats to freedom in this country...
I don't support Antifa. And some of their behavior has been indefensible. There's probably 50 posts of my saying that. Doesn't mean I need to pretend they are something they aren't. Or pretend like they're as evil as the far-right forces they oppose. Because that's all FNK wants. And when we enter into these debates with FNK assuming he's arguing in good faith, well...it's a waste of time. Because there's no good faith here at all.
Here's one more thing I can say.
I support what Antifa supports. Their actions? No. Certainly not always. But I support their anti-fascist beliefs. I support their opposition to white nationalism/supremacy. I am, to some extent, an anti-capitalist. I support them counter-protesting. And so on and so on. It's the direct action they take that is criticized.
The people they're counter-protesting, well...what's there to support? Nothing. I don't even think FNK will sit here and say he supports the message of the Charlottesville protesters, or Unite the Right, or Identity Evropa, or whatever. Throw in the fact that right-wing terrorism is actually prevalent, and, well...yeah. You get it!
It's not rocket science. And it's pretty obvious why people like FNK fixate on them so much and so desperately want to convince everyone that they are true and ubiquitous threat to this country.
Mixing in made up stuff doesn't help your argument. There's no proof of Trump's dad being in the KKK (as I've already pointed out).Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
He was arrested for what reason at their rally? Are we going to pretend like he was there by accident?Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
He was arrested and released with no charges. Are you going to continue to pretend that only card carrying members of the KKK were in Jamaica, Queens, N.Y. on May 30, 1927?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Again, you have plenty of real stuff to work with; why water it down with vague and inconclusive guesswork? I get that you couldn't help yourself from latching on to and sharing something like this but come on.
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-...rrest-after-k/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do...ther-kkk-1927/
Pretty funny seeing and reading your sig quote immediately after my last post. :laugh:
So they acknowledge he was arrested at the rally and it gets a mostly false. I'm sure the guy who was forced by the FHA to stop discriminating against black people was just randomly at the KKK rally...Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)