Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

It would probably work. Everyone pays their fair share.. Everyone has the same deductible.

Without a deductible you will get people at the doctor's office getting their toenails clipped and the system being billed $250.

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If your plan went into effect I would immediately get into the bankruptcy business, because you would see medical bankruptcies skyrocket.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

You pay into a savings account via withholding from your pay check. Once the account is full the withholding stops. Until you see a doctor you spend nothing on health care ever. If you go to see a doctor you can shop the doctor to save money or for the doctor you want for any one issue, nothing locks you in. When you spend on health care your withholding starts again until the account is full. The incentive to be healthy is that it's like getting a raise when you don't go to the doctor. The most common reasons to visit doctors when healthy (flu shots, physical) will be the most competitive and therefore the cheapest.

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what happens when you don't have enough in the health savings account to pay for what you (or family) needs though?

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Originally Posted by ewing

Using children as political props. Disgusting

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Hehe

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

what happens when you don't have enough in the health savings account to pay for what you (or family) needs though?

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Anything past $0 the government pays.

We can't not provide care to someone who shows up needing care, paying in to the system or not. If they are illegal they will be getting deported.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

We can't not provide care to someone who shows up needing care, paying in to the system or not. If they are illegal they will be getting deported.

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Did you mean a double negative there?

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Originally Posted by flips333

Did you mean a double negative there?

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Yes. I am not okay with having corpses pile up on the doorsteps of hospitals because they were not legally in the country.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

Yes. I am not okay with having corpses pile up on the doorsteps of hospitals because they were not legally in the country.

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My God dude, they don't.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I still want to know why he is so incredibly adamant about protecting the health insurance industry.

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Because the health care industry gives lots and lots of money. I work for one of them and our CEO has made some interesting comments lately.

What I will say based on seeing the internal workings (we were an acquisition), there is no doubt why our health insurance costs so ****ing much.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Because the health care industry gives lots and lots of money. I work for one of them and our CEO has made some interesting comments lately.

What I will say based on seeing the internal workings (we were an acquisition), there is no doubt why our health insurance costs so ****ing much.

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Nope. That's not why. It's because it has been very consistent in my life, and has produced. All of this BS about the private health insurance industry is just that....BS.

This Boogeyman mentality about the private health insurance industry is nothing more than perpetuating that Boogeyman BS.

Just look at scoots post 2 above yours. Complete and utter nonsense.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Nope. That's not why. It's because it has been very consistent in my life, and has produced. All of this BS about the private health insurance industry is just that....BS.

This Boogeyman mentality about the private health insurance industry is nothing more than perpetuating that Boogeyman BS.

Just look at scoots post 2 above yours. Complete and utter nonsense.

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Private insurance companies have bought and paid for the politicians countless times over. It's why everyone talks about how we need to drastically change our health care system while proposing absolutely nothing to really change a damn thing.

Listen, I will give you an example of how things have changed since my company got acquired and you tell me why your health insurance is so expensive.

Before my company got acquired, I could ship a computer (I work in IT) to an employee and get it there the next day for $30-50. Now that we're using the bigger company's systems (I will not post the name but I guarantee you ALL know them), the same procedure costs $150. They are about 100 times as many employees and they have a substantially higher bargaining power and they don't bother doing so.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Private insurance companies have bought and paid for the politicians countless times over. It's why everyone talks about how we need to drastically change our health care system while proposing absolutely nothing to really change a damn thing.

Listen, I will give you an example of how things have changed since my company got acquired and you tell me why your health insurance is so expensive.

Before my company got acquired, I could ship a computer (I work in IT) to an employee and get it there the next day for $30-50. Now that we're using the bigger company's systems (I will not post the name but I guarantee you ALL know them), the same procedure costs $150. They are about 100 times as many employees and they have a substantially higher bargaining power and they don't bother doing so.

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Completely understand. It's a very cumbersome industry. However, do you really think those numbers would go south if the private insurance industry was abolished? Please keep in mind that you'd be using union or negotiated private contracts for administration and delivery.

The most effective and intentional lie to ever come out of a sitting President's mouth was: It will cost you less and you can keep your preferred healthcare provider.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

My God dude, they don't.

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I didn't say they do. I said I don't want them to.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Nope. That's not why. It's because it has been very consistent in my life, and has produced. All of this BS about the private health insurance industry is just that....BS.

This Boogeyman mentality about the private health insurance industry is nothing more than perpetuating that Boogeyman BS.

Just look at scoots post 2 above yours. Complete and utter nonsense.

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I was clarifying that an illegal immigrant who shows up at a hospital in need of care should not be turned away. That's not nonsense, it's my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I didn't say they do. I said I don't want them to.

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Then WTF are you trying to change? I've seen all of these fairytales about the healthcare industry, and nothing subsequently after abolishment makes sense.

Honestly, what am I missing? Or is this simply a game of hit the gofer on the head as many times as you can and hope that one of them will talk to you and share the light.