Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

So as long as someone offers free stuff, you’re ok with them being racist?

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definitely makes them better then someone that isn't giving me free stuff

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Originally Posted by ewing

definitely makes them better then someone that isn't giving me free stuff

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Those are facts!

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Originally Posted by ewing

definitely makes them better then someone that isn't giving me free stuff

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I’m sure the venezuelans would probably disagree with that notion.

Kentucky Republicans Worried Inviting AOC to Meet with Coal Miners Might Backfire

Republican thinks inviting AOC to talk to coal miners is some effective "gotcha!" tactic. AOC accepts, and the rest plays out just about how you'd expect.

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Last month, a clip of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went predictably viral after she forcefully responded to one of her colleagues on the House Financial Services Committee when he called climate change an "elitist" concern. "Wanting clean air and water is not elitist," she said.

In response, Kentucky Republican congressman Andy Barr invited Ocasio-Cortez to come meet coal miners in his state "who will tell you what the Green New Deal would mean for their families, their paychecks." His concern, he said, is that the Green New Deal would phase out U.S. reliance on coal and fossil fuel, which would wreak havoc on the lives of people who work in those industries. Ocasio-Cortez accepted, saying she'd be "happy" to go, adding that the Green New Deal was written to fund coal-miner pensions. "We want a just transition to make sure we are investing in jobs across those swaths of the country," she said.

All in all, it seemed like an uncharacteristically cordial exchange for two members of Congress. And not even a month later, that cordiality is out the window: Barr has reportedly withdrawn his invitation, saying that Ocasio-Cortez has to first apologize to Texas representative Dan Crenshaw for a completely unrelated event before he brings her to meet with miners. Crenshaw was one of the first and most vociferous critics to pile on to Minnesota representative Ilhan Omar for out-of-context comments about 9/11. When he shared a tweet that falsely claimed Omar said the 9/11 attacks weren't terrorism, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out: "You refuse to co-sponsor the 9/11 Victim’s Compensation Fund, yet have the audacity to drum resentment towards Ilhan w/completely out-of-context quotes. In 2018, right-wing extremists were behind almost ALL US domestic terrorist killings. Why don’t you go do something about that?"

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

I’m sure the venezuelans would probably disagree with that notion.

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false flag. its a hoax. those people are getting paid by the Republicans and wearing venezuelan face for the camaras

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

I dislike when the government gets involved with almost anything involving citizens. The governments role is to act as a ref in a sporting event- set and uphold the rules, give out penalties and insure the players safety to the best of their ability.

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Referees do not set the rules; they have to interpret them and enforce them, for sure, but they do not set them.

So, in the analogy, who does set the rules if not the government?

And then there’s that word “almost”. That’s problematic because that’s really the root of the debate.

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Originally Posted by ewing

false flag. its a hoax. those people are getting paid by the Republicans and wearing venezuelan face for the camaras

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I also forgot about the Russian spies...

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Referees do not set the rules; they have to interpret them and enforce them, for sure, but they do not set them.

So, in the analogy, who does set the rules if not the government?

And then there’s that word “almost”. That’s problematic because that’s really the root of the debate.

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Yes the government is there to set the rules. Obviously in my analogy the “referee” was an extension of the league.

The government shouldn’t be involved in most issues directly involving citizens. I can make allowances for certain social programs but that’s it.

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Originally Posted by valade16

It's a weird sort of double think. "Republicans were the Northern anti-slavery party!" while waving around the Confederate flag. "We believe nobody should be discriminated against for their religion" while supporting a call to ban all Muslims from entering the US.

But what more do you expect from a country whose slogan is and was "land of the free" while we literally had slavery lol.

Everyone engages in double think to an extent, but it can get pretty egregious sometimes.

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YES! Someone understands me!

It's not possible to have actual discussion about racism and bigotry because the people who push it are also simultaneously tied to these ideals of freedom and equality, and so you just get the weirdest responses and explanations as people try to maneuver their way thru their own hypocrisy.

But this is truly the reasoning as to why this topic will never be properly and legitimately addressed in this nation. Because it cannot be properly discussed, because it cannot be properly recognized, because it is so contradictory to these supposed ideals we live by.

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Originally Posted by ManRam

Kentucky Republicans Worried Inviting AOC to Meet with Coal Miners Might Backfire

Republican thinks inviting AOC to talk to coal miners is some effective "gotcha!" tactic. AOC accepts, and the rest plays out just about how you'd expect.

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I like her mentality. Let's phase out coal but let's do it in a way that still puts coal miners first! This is exactly how I would do things. You can't just fight the system, it is too big and too savage. So you have to convince it to change its ways in the best interest of the American people WHILE still taking their best interest into account. For example, all the current coal dependent facilities should now be the focus of our new and better sources of energy. Kentucky should now be one of the sites we should want to build new facilities for new energy. They powered our country for centuries with coal so they don't deserve to be left to the side when we upgrade our energy. That's how you put Americans first.

The problem with say Bernie sanders, he just attacks an industry (education), well of course now you will have billions of dollars worth of finances attacking you thru various outlets (media, social media, advertisements, pop culture, etc). You have to better education but in a way that still allows the education industry to keep profiting. This is the reality of how things work so this should be the reality of our approach.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

Yes the government is there to set the rules. Obviously in my analogy the “referee” was an extension of the league.

The government shouldn’t be involved in most issues directly involving citizens. I can make allowances for certain social programs but that’s it.

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So, given that it is the government that makes the rules, really the debate (if there is one) is only about what you and I accept as “almost anything” or “most issues”.

Once we are agreed that the government does have to make some rules, it’s only a matter of what rules.

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Originally Posted by valade16

It's a weird sort of double think. "Republicans were the Northern anti-slavery party!" while waving around the Confederate flag. "We believe nobody should be discriminated against for their religion" while supporting a call to ban all Muslims from entering the US.

But what more do you expect from a country whose slogan is and was "land of the free" while we literally had slavery lol.

Everyone engages in double think to an extent, but it can get pretty egregious sometimes.

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This might be my favorite thing I have read in one of your posts

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Originally Posted by Crovash

So, given that it is the government that makes the rules, really the debate (if there is one) is only about what you and I accept as “almost anything” or “most issues”.

Once we are agreed that the government does have to make some rules, it’s only a matter of what rules.

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Making the rules is far different from participating in the action.

For instance, I’d expect the government to make rules involving insurance companies and the standards/regulation in the healthcare industry, however I don’t expect the government to becomes either.

The government should regulate the sale of fire arms (they already do). But I wouldn’t expect the government to equip people with fire arms.

I could go on here as well...

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Originally Posted by ewing

false flag. its a hoax. those people are getting paid by the Republicans and wearing venezuelan face for the camaras

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What color is that?

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

Making the rules is far different from participating in the action.

For instance, I’d expect the government to make rules involving insurance companies and the standards/regulation in the healthcare industry, however I don’t expect the government to become either. ...

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I understand.

So, for starters would you advocate dismantling Social Security and Medicare?

What about things like NASA? CDC? Even the military?