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You do realize how successful the cigarette thing was?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
http://pubdocs.worldbank.org/en/1941...ardView4-3.pdf
That **** ****ing worked. Helped society,.
I was simply commenting on your poor logic that leads you to the "Handouts don't work" bit. You said someone earned that money when it was a hand out to a rich kid. I just pointed out that someone earned it in the other situation too.
It's clear that some people don't see how certain programs help the community. It's OK.
Exactly and I’m sure it will be “successful” on income as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
If a family member chooses to give another family member an inheritance that is their choice...Simarly if a rich person wants to donate their earnings to a much more effective charity to help people, that is their choice as well.
Please explain to me how the government taking people’s money and deciding what’s the most “effective” program to give the money to by starting a committee is anyone’s choice except the drones who work for the Govt?
You keep trying to have a different conversation. I know you have things you want to talk about. But again all I did was question your "Handouts don't work" comment nothing more nothing more. You seem to refuse to concede that handouts can work. That's fine..Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
Everything the government does is indirectly the choice of the people. That's how representatives work. This whole committee thing is funny .... It makes me think you don't know how the money is spent.
So everything that Trump does is indirectly your choice? You racist, sexist bigot...Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
With people of wealth, it’s not the handout of money that gives them the advantages but the stability in that their core needs are met. They are able to learn in a safe environment with the security to know they have a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. Than they are able to easily afford whatever elitist higher “learning” institution they choose. Again I’ll use the example of lottery winners. How many cases of bankruptcy do we need?
Collectively we choose representatives and they represent us. Obviously everything the government does is not my personal choice. That's why I say we INDIRECTLY choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
If you don't think that money begets money you don't understand how money works.
Your lottery example is silly. It's giving extreme wealth to someone who has no clue what to do with that money. They don't have the example of their parents to help them invest it. And the other thing that none of those scandalous statistics do is control for the fact that people who play the lottery are different. How many lottery winners would go broke if they didn't win the lottery?
The floor is yours. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My local government* — of which I was (and am) a “drone” — does an “effective” job allocating “stolen” money. We have fully functional public works department, good police and fire departments, strong public schools, a superb public library, a town hall with an energetic and responsive staff, and several locally funded mixed-income housing developments.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
*Be careful here. You have never specified...
So you indirectly support building the wall and the Muslim ban? Why are you so hateful?Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
So people who are born with wealth possibly have intelligent parents? By your logic, Lebron James kid has been given a handout in multiple ways. Also, I’ve played the lottery and I don’t feel as though I’ll go broke any time soon.
LeBron’s kids are luckyQuote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
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I agree but according to flips they are just getting handouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
They are. I don’t think he is begrudging them it but things are being handed to themQuote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
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let's eliminate every "handout". see what happens
Keep in mind this next statement is a hypothetical and in no way reflects my real thoughts on basketball...Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Let’s say Bronny goes to the NBA and becomes the best player ever, do you think it’s a combination of factors which include the opportunity given to him by his name as well as hard work and effort? Or is it just the fact that he was given handouts?
It doesn’t matter they will never have to workQuote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
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Having to and wanting to is different though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Peyton and Eli Manning didn’t have to work but I doubt anyone would state they didn’t work. Was it easier for them? Perhaps but that also depends.