Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Ah, classic

You see these sorts of criticism from the right all the time. They're pretty damn stupid. First, FlashBolt doesn't actually care about climate change, so it's all in bad faith in the first place. He doesn't mind that people drive in vans.

It's like criticism people who want socialism for the ways they benefit from capitalism. We all live in the same reality. You can't operate as a socialist in a capitalist society. What do people expect? I work for one of the largest companies in the country. I'm a socialist. I'm just trying to ****ing get by :laugh2: I don't have a choice.

When I bought my first car 5 years ago, I couldn't afford an electric or hybrid car. So every day I am burning fuel and contributing to the problem. But the reason we have a climate crisis is not because of the average person. The impetus is not on the individual, it's on the government and the large corporations that are largely responsible for the problem.

Bernie got criticized for something similar a few weeks ago from a Clinton staffer. They ripped into him for using a private plane while he was...wait for it...campaigning for Clinton in the waning weeks of the election. He visited 14 events in 14 different cities for her over a 4 day period. What the hell else do they want from him? To drive to each place? Unfortunately, that's all we have right now. That's a problem, but again, that's the reality we live in.


It's deflection. It's bad logic. It's stupid. People who don't want to do anything about climate change criticizing someone who is trying to shoot for the moon to make a difference, merely because they exist in this incredibly imperfect reality? That's insane to me.

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Originally Posted by FlashBolt

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Yikes! For a simple question?

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Originally Posted by FlashBolt

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Oh! Oh! Add me too please!

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Originally Posted by FlashBolt

AOC: "We need to set an example for a greener environment."

AOC three days ago: Instead of taking the train, she takes a van into a community outing.

Lmao, she is such a joke.

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that's hilarious

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Originally Posted by ManRam

You see these sorts of criticism from the right all the time. They're pretty damn stupid. First, FlashBolt doesn't actually care about climate change, so it's all in bad faith in the first place. He doesn't mind that people drive in vans.

It's like criticism people who want socialism for the ways they benefit from capitalism. We all live in the same reality. You can't operate as a socialist in a capitalist society. What do people expect? I work for one of the largest companies in the country. I'm a socialist. I'm just trying to ****ing get by :laugh2: I don't have a choice.

When I bought my first car 5 years ago, I couldn't afford an electric or hybrid car. So every day I am burning fuel and contributing to the problem. But the reason we have a climate crisis is not because of the average person. The impetus is not on the individual, it's on the government and the large corporations that are largely responsible for the problem.

Bernie got criticized for something similar a few weeks ago from a Clinton staffer. They ripped into him for using a private plane while he was...wait for it...campaigning for Clinton in the waning weeks of the election. He visited 14 events in 14 different cities for her over a 4 day period. What the hell else do they want from him? To drive to each place? Unfortunately, that's all we have right now. That's a problem, but again, that's the reality we live in.


It's deflection. It's bad logic. It's stupid. People who don't want to do anything about climate change criticizing someone who is trying to shoot for the moon to make a difference, merely because they exist in this incredibly imperfect reality? That's insane to me.

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Heard a good song lyric the other day about people pointing fingers so no one will actually look at them

A few years back, I was studying at an institution close by to AOC at the same time she was going. I was told to write an essay on a book regarding frugal conservativism. I wrote about how wealth inequality is challenging upward mobility and the Professor gave me a C grade because he didn't agree with me. This was one of the reasons I dropped out of College. I was also working long hard hours, 7 days a week and barely making ends meet or getting enough rest. :mad: This is why our generation is angry, because the system is cruel.
I have an old car with almost 300k miles on it and they want to tell you, you don't understand frugal spending.

I want to conserve water but I also drink it. I guess I’m a hypocrite too.

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Originally Posted by LanceUpperCut

I want to conserve water but I also drink it. I guess I’m a hypocrite too.

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Key Quote from Donald Trump "The American dream is dead."

Technology got us here and it'll get us out. The idea that some politician is going to "fix" this problem is ludicrous. It's so much bigger than politics.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Technology got us here and it'll get us out. The idea that some politician is going to "fix" this problem is ludicrous. It's so much bigger than politics.

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Politics play a key role in fostering the growth of said technology. And doing it in a timely manner.

I agree that technology will get us out of it. But the cost is going to be key. And the sooner we resolve it, the cheaper it will be. And if we are the ones to develop the technology, then that can also be an economical boon for us as well. Lastly it will likely not be a one stop fix, which means even more economic opportunity to be recognized here.


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Originally Posted by LanceUpperCut

I want to conserve water but I also drink it. I guess I’m a hypocrite too.

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Yea apparently you need to be a full blown hippy in order to combat systemic issues that drive climate change.

They use the same broken logic on people who aren’t in soup lines for promoting ideas that benefit the common person.

And if they are poor than they have no credibility cause they haven’t been successful enough and don’t understand how things work.


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Originally Posted by DeW-Star

Politics play a key role in fostering the growth of said technology. And doing it in a timely manner.

I agree that technology will get us out of it. But the cost is going to be key. And the sooner we resolve it, the cheaper it will be. And if we are the ones to develop the technology, then that can also be an economical boon for us as well. Lastly it will likely not be a one stop fix, which means even more economic opportunity to be recognized here.


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Smart people are making strides regarding storing wind/solar. Idiots like AOC just want to ban stuff. That's her solution. She'll be patting herself on the back when it's "fixed" like she did something. Probably Trump too.

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Originally Posted by LanceUpperCut

I want to conserve water but I also drink it. I guess I’m a hypocrite too.

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lol, good one

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Technology got us here and it'll get us out. The idea that some politician is going to "fix" this problem is ludicrous. It's so much bigger than politics.

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I'm not saying it to be pessimistic. Socialism rapidly became a popular idea after the last recession around college campuses, I don't think any of us would have ever imaged Bernie would have be taken seriously in 2020 at the time. It was an authentic rebellion against the establishment.