Well in a sense yes, but there is a reason Amazon was getting these incentivesQuote:
Originally Posted by DeW-Star
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Well in a sense yes, but there is a reason Amazon was getting these incentivesQuote:
Originally Posted by DeW-Star
1). No you’re once again wrong (unsurprisingly).Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashBolt
Comparing Crystal City Va is not closer to comparing a third world country than to NY. NoVa has 3 of the 5 wealthiest counties or something along those lines.
The jobs being offered are supposed to be in the relative same range.
If anything, there was more competition for the area leading it to needing to offer less incentives (I.e. google and others as mentioned prior).
2). Your whole point in two are wild assumptions of anything. Who cares that they are tech people. As you’re saying the tech people would be transplants anyways. My point is, and still is that the idea that tax revenue just wouldn’t exist is crazy, the spots where amazon would go will likely be taken by some other companies. You have to make some assumptions as to how much and what the pay for those companies would be. But it’s not something you can isolate as much as you are trying to make it out to be. Even if the net benefit is still to the area (which it likely will be and I never disputed).
3). You are spinning what corporate welfare is. Nothing is being manipulated. It’s corporate welfare plain and simple. We all know how the process works.
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Didn't even see the argument, but I love when people do this. I'll put up the wealth on either side of the Potomac against any area in the U.S.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeW-Star
I have not done due diligence on this news report. — I don’t know much about the ITEP — but it would appear that Amazon is paying zero in federal taxes in 2018.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/am...xes-this-year/
Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure all of this is legal — a situation probably relatively easy to accomplish when it’s your toadies making the laws.
Time to break up some of these monopolies.
Amazon is a monopoly? I'm fine with restricting or eliminating the rate deals Amazon gets from the government, but I don't see how they are a monopoly, particularly when you consider Walmart.com being a direct competitor and hardly a small fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Just assign 1000 government auditors to spend all their time harassing Amazon to make sure they follow every law and pay every penny they owe.
You just don’t get it, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
Amazon doesn’t owe anything. That’s the point. It’s perfectly legal. You can throw a million auditors at them, but there’s nothing to investigate. The laws are on their side because their toadies made the laws in their favor (it’s called the tax cut).
I get that, what I don't get is where they are a monopoly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
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They aren't... they're just more innovative than any other company. I don't think he knows what monopoly means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
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Originally Posted by Scoots
You are both correct, and I fully retract that part of my statement. Amazon is not a monopoly.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashBolt
Very few people really know what a Monopoly is.
it's a board game from Parker Brothers.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
fun fact, monopoly board games helped with POW in World War II.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...war-ii/266996/
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How Monopoly Games Helped Allied POWs Escape During World War II
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. :shrug:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/43589...-ryan-saavedra
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Ocasio-Cortez Doesn't Understand Difference Between Berlin Wall, Border Wall
AOC doesn't understand. I'm not surprised.Quote:
Democratic socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) suggested late last week that she does not understand the difference between the Berlin Wall and President Donald Trump's proposed border wall.
During an Instagram live video on Friday, the freshman congresswoman said that she thought the wall was a "moral abomination. I think it's like the Berlin Wall."
That Ocasio-Cortez thinks the border wall is "like the Berlin Wall" suggests she knows very little about history and concepts of border security. Former senior official at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Matt Mayer explains why comparisons between Trump's wall and the Berlin Wall are nonsensical and insulting for those oppressed in East Germany:
The goal of the Berlin Wall: stop East Germans from escaping to West Germany, as roughly three million did from the end of World War II until the wall was built. It divided Berlin for twenty-eight years. In many ways, the Berlin Wall served as a prison wall for East Germans. At least 139 people died at the Berlin Wall. It is hard to believe it has been gone for nearly as long as it was up.
Too often, Americans use the Berlin Wall in the debate over expanding the wall on our border with Mexico. Not only does this usage cheapen the history of the Berlin Wall, it is a terrible analogy. The goal of America's border wall is to keep people and contraband from illegally coming in to the United States, not to prevent Americans from escaping. Unlike with the Berlin Wall, the use of force on the border is significantly restricted by law, including when engaging with violent and well-armed Mexican drug cartels.
"Let's say you love the wall, let's say you want it, point is, it's wrong to hold people's paychecks hostage for it and if you want your wall so bad, go out and convince the American people because 70% of America thinks this is the dumbest idea ever and it's not my problem that the majority of the American public thinks it's a scam, a sham, a monument to white supremacy," Ocasio-Cortez continued. "It's not my fault, not my fault."
Ocasio-Cortez's assertion that 70% of America thinks that a border wall is "the dumbest idea ever," is factually false. Ocasio-Cortez is most likely referring to a January 2019 report from PEW Research that stated that 70% of Democrats say that a wall "would not have much impact on illegal immigration into the U.S."
During a Sunday interview on Fox News, Senior White House official Stephen Miller debunked the notion that a border wall will do little in terms of stopping drugs that come from Mexico.
"I understand that, but 80 to 90 percent of those drugs, don't come across in unfenced areas, they come from ports of entry," Fox News host Chris Wallace said. "Those are your own Customs and Border Patrol numbers."
"But, Chris, the problem with the statement that you're apprehending 80 to 90 percent of the drugs at the ports of entry, that's like saying, you apprehend most contraband at TSA checkpoints at airports," Miller responded. "You apprehend the contraband there because that's where you have the people. That's where you have the screeners."
"I assure you, if we had people at that same density and screeners at that same density across every single inch and mile of the southern border, you'd have more drugs interdicted in those areas," Miller continued. "You don't know what you don't know and you don't catch what you don't catch. But as a matter of national security, you cannot have uncontrolled, unsecured areas of the border where people can pour in undetected."
Partial transcript of Ocasio-Cortez's Instagram live video:
But this wall man, I can't fund it. I cannot, I cannot, vote for a wall. I can't, I can't do it. I can't do it. And especially for my community back at home it's, it's 50% immigrant and most of us if we're not immigrant we're first-generation. And, and, you know it's not to slight those that that voted YES on the wall because it's actually, sorry — it's not they were not voting for the wall, let me make that very clear, they were not voting for the wall — but what's happening is that the Republicans are creating a hostage situation where they're holding everyone's paychecks unless they get more money for, for, a wall.
These two things should not be tied at all, like no matter how you feel about the wall, you know I think it's a moral abomination. I think it's like the Berlin wall. I think it's like any other wall that is designed to separate human beings and block out people who are running away from humanitarian disaster. It's like one of the I just think it's wrong. But you know what? Let's say you love the wall, let's say you want it, point is, it's wrong to hold people's paychecks hostage for it and if you want your wall so bad, go out and convince the American people because 70% of America thinks this is the dumbest idea ever and it's not my problem that the majority of the American public thinks it's a scam, a sham, a monument to white supremacy. It's not my fault, not my fault. So, if you want a wall, go out and campaign on it, go out try to convince your neighbors of it.
AOC actually believes that a wall is monument to white supremacy. is she aware that there is already a wall in places? like other Democrats and Liberal media they keep talking about this is about immigration in general. it's not. the issue is illegal vs legal. wanting a physical barrier does nothing against legal immigration.
This is ********.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashBolt
Everybody is ****ing rude in the subways and push, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians. I have issues with all ethnic groups down there.
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Everyone in NY is an *******Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
I don't think Amazon technically makes a profit because they reinvest all their money. It's a crazy business model.
Amazon is becoming a monopoly, take the acquisition of Whole Foods for example.