Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Yeah, that is what's happening right now.

One thing I have to give the "climatologists: credit for is that they learned from The Population Bomb and the Y2K terror not to put a solid date on anything. (Except for AOC and her 12 year deadline. She's too dumb to learn not to be definite with things.)

Now if there are no sharks in Kansas in thirty years, they can just just the date back.

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Well ****. If Sluggo says this on the internet I'm inclined to agree with him over the entire academic community. I mean, you did read The Population Bomb that one time, so you're basically like the best scientist on earth now.

Imagine if this mindset had been applied to other sciences?


“Guys we think we have found a cure for polio if we..”

BULL ****! I don’t believe it and my ex attorney congressman told me not to believe it.

“But we’ve actually been studying this for decades and..”

Shut it down! Scam! It’s a hoax!

“Here’s the evidence and peer reviewed tested...”

FAKE! FAKEY FAKE FAKE!

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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

Imagine if this mindset had been applied to other sciences?


“Guys we think we have found a cure for polio if we..”

BULL ****! I don’t believe it and my ex attorney congressman told me not to believe it.

“But we’ve actually been studying this for decades and..”

Shut it down! Scam! It’s a hoax!

“Here’s the evidence and peer reviewed tested...”

FAKE! FAKEY FAKE FAKE!

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You mean like if people insisted that despite the safeness of vaccines and people insisted that the vaccine would lead to autism. Or something like that?

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

You mean like if people insisted that despite the safeness of vaccines and people insisted that the vaccine would lead to autism. Or something like that?

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They got an Hpv vaccine. It's like you can either introduce hpv to your child's body at age 12 in Hope's that it protects them down the line if re exposed, or you can not introduce it in hopes that they never need protection from it down the line.

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Originally Posted by benny01

When dealing with brewer I’d refer you to your thread on education cuts and remind you that he’s from Wisconsin.

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Lol

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Originally Posted by valade16

Well ****. If Sluggo says this on the internet I'm inclined to agree with him over the entire academic community. I mean, you did read The Population Bomb that one time, so you're basically like the best scientist on earth now.

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I've mentioned "The Population Bomb" a few times because it is the classic example of people overreacting to or giving way too much credence to "the experts." The author Paul Ehrlich (was a Dr. so he must be right) was wrong on so many counts and millions bought into his theories (posted as fact).

Y2K, which you didn't comment on, was another one. Some computer "experts" noted computers weren't set up for '00 years (how could they tell the difference between 1900 and 2000? OMG we're all gonna die). When the calendar rolled around…ta da…nothing happened.*

Let's not forget the Mayan Long Count calendar. The calendar stopped at whatever date that was and people expected the worst. Some of us thought maybe they just ran out of room on the stone.

Early 2000's (2005 0r 2006) thew US had so many hurricanes they ran out od letters and had to start re-using the As Bs Cs etc. Climatologists told us we had to get used to such activity as this would be the norm. Never came close to that again. So they were wrong there.

Are we warming…absolutely.

Anything we can do about it…I doubt it. It's a cycle. The US has done more than it's share of cleaning up its act. Trump pulled us out of the Paris agreement because a lot of the rest of the world is doing nothing. China. India, and the developing nations (love that description) are doing far more to create pollution than we ever did and seem to be doing nothing on their end to stop it. Whatever we do will be pointless until they do their share. Good luck with that.

As far as the "entire academic community" goes…there are plenty who disagree. So who is right? No one can tell for sure. The faxt that the planet has cooled and warmed over the centuries would seem to make this cyclical.

The one problem we can control…booming population…is never discussed. (And again, this is something the US has controlled on our end. Our population has pretty much slowed and leveled off). Most of the polluting countries have populations expanding at ridiculous rates. And nothing seems to be said. Birth control policies in African Nations, India, South America would go a long way towards solving some of their problems. But nothing is ever said. But don't worry about that. All the problems of the world fall on the US for wanting to put in a pipeline or fracking.

It all started out as "global warming" and when it didn't actually warm up that much it morphed into "climate change." Nicely done, I'll have to admit. When you call it "climate change" you can easily tie it into the occasional overly cold or snowy winter. An unusual number of tornadoes. And now grasshoppers in Las Vegas. "See I told you so. Climate change."

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*I actually made a good deal of $$$ from Y2K by producing booklets, pamphlets, brochures, mailings etc. for a guy that made a ton of $$$$ selling this stuff to a nutty panicked public. He had it all figured out…energy grids, ATM failures, gas pumps shutting down, commerce coming to a standstill, water network failing etc. Also sold Y2K survival products. And January 1, 2000…nothing happened. No idea where he is now.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

I've mentioned "The Population Bomb" a few times because it is the classic example of people overreacting to or giving way too much credence to "the experts." The author Paul Ehrlich (was a Dr. so he must be right) was wrong on so many counts and millions bought into his theories (posted as fact).

Y2K, which you didn't comment on, was another one. Some computer "experts" noted computers weren't set up for '00 years (how could they tell the difference between 1900 and 2000? OMG we're all gonna die). When the calendar rolled around…ta da…nothing happened.*

Let's not forget the Mayan Long Count calendar. The calendar stopped at whatever date that was and people expected the worst. Some of us thought maybe they just ran out of room on the stone.

Early 2000's (2005 0r 2006) thew US had so many hurricanes they ran out od letters and had to start re-using the As Bs Cs etc. Climatologists told us we had to get used to such activity as this would be the norm. Never came close to that again. So they were wrong there.

Are we warming…absolutely.

Anything we can do about it…I doubt it. It's a cycle. The US has done more than it's share of cleaning up its act. Trump pulled us out of the Paris agreement because a lot of the rest of the world is doing nothing. China. India, and the developing nations (love that description) are doing far more to create pollution than we ever did and seem to be doing nothing on their end to stop it. Whatever we do will be pointless until they do their share. Good luck with that.

As far as the "entire academic community" goes…there are plenty who disagree. So who is right? No one can tell for sure. The faxt that the planet has cooled and warmed over the centuries would seem to make this cyclical.

The one problem we can control…booming population…is never discussed. (And again, this is something the US has controlled on our end. Our population has pretty much slowed and leveled off). Most of the polluting countries have populations expanding at ridiculous rates. And nothing seems to be said. Birth control policies in African Nations, India, South America would go a long way towards solving some of their problems. But nothing is ever said. But don't worry about that. All the problems of the world fall on the US for wanting to put in a pipeline or fracking.

It all started out as "global warming" and when it didn't actually warm up that much it morphed into "climate change." Nicely done, I'll have to admit. When you call it "climate change" you can easily tie it into the occasional overly cold or snowy winter. An unusual number of tornadoes. And now grasshoppers in Las Vegas. "See I told you so. Climate change."

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*I actually made a good deal of $$$ from Y2K by producing booklets, pamphlets, brochures, mailings etc. for a guy that made a ton of $$$$ selling this stuff to a nutty panicked public. He had it all figured out…energy grids, ATM failures, gas pumps shutting down, commerce coming to a standstill, water network failing etc. Also sold Y2K survival products. And January 1, 2000…nothing happened. No idea where he is now.

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First Bolded: The only person I have ever seen overreact to that book is you because you won't shut up about it.

Second and Third Bolded: People expected the worst. Scientists and Academia did not grab their hair screaming. I assure you there were zero or near zero actual scientists who seriously thought the world would end when the Mayan Calendar ran out.

It seems you are confusing scientists and experts with lay people. Which is unsurprising considering how often you take the word of people who have no idea what they're talking about over actual experts.


Fourth Bolded: Well if Sluggo the non-scientist says there's nothing we can do about it, that's a wrap folks! Clearly based on having read the book The Population Bomb once 25 years ago he's an expert in all things science...

Fifth Bolded: We are the second biggest polluter on earth, so no, developed countries are not polluting more than we ever did. There is only one country that has ever out-polluted us.

Sixth Bolded: If by plenty of people who disagree, you mean people like you who are not scientists and have no expertise in the subject whatsoever, absolutely. If by plenty who disagree who are actual scientists the answer is no. Let's put it in a way you can understand, the number of people who disagree in the scientific community is equivalent to the number of people who arrive at the US border and have legitimate asylum claims (and according to you, that is almost none).

Seventh Bolded: Wait... you keep harping on how wrong the Population Bomb was and yet you are saying our biggest problem is overpopulation?! :laugh2: Seems like you actually agree with the Dr. who wrote the book lol

Eighth Bolded: It actually warmed up more than we thought.


To sum up this entire conversation: you are going to be one of the number of people who in 50 years textbooks will be asking "how could people be so naïve and not believe in Global Warming?". My only regret in this conversation is you will not be there to realize how wrong you were.

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Originally Posted by valade16

First Bolded: The only person I have ever seen overreact to that book is you because you won't shut up about it.

Second and Third Bolded: People expected the worst. Scientists and Academia did not grab their hair screaming. I assure you there were zero or near zero actual scientists who seriously thought the world would end when the Mayan Calendar ran out.

It seems you are confusing scientists and experts with lay people. Which is unsurprising considering how often you take the word of people who have no idea what they're talking about over actual experts.


Fourth Bolded: Well if Sluggo the non-scientist says there's nothing we can do about it, that's a wrap folks! Clearly based on having read the book The Population Bomb once 25 years ago he's an expert in all things science...

Fifth Bolded: We are the second biggest polluter on earth, so no, developed countries are not polluting more than we ever did. There is only one country that has ever out-polluted us.

Sixth Bolded: If by plenty of people who disagree, you mean people like you who are not scientists and have no expertise in the subject whatsoever, absolutely. If by plenty who disagree who are actual scientists the answer is no. Let's put it in a way you can understand, the number of people who disagree in the scientific community is equivalent to the number of people who arrive at the US border and have legitimate asylum claims (and according to you, that is almost none).

Seventh Bolded: Wait... you keep harping on how wrong the Population Bomb was and yet you are saying our biggest problem is overpopulation?! :laugh2: Seems like you actually agree with the Dr. who wrote the book lol

Eighth Bolded: It actually warmed up more than we thought.


To sum up this entire conversation: you are going to be one of the number of people who in 50 years textbooks will be asking "how could people be so naïve and not believe in Global Warming?". My only regret in this conversation is you will not be there to realize how wrong you were.

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Well. I guess we're all just going to die then.

Or maybe not.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Well. I guess we're all just going to die then.

Or maybe not.

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If we're all going to die, then why does everyone safe for retirement or their children's college or the list goes on and on and on. Why should I care what happens to my assets and children after I croak? It wouldn't possibly be that maybe there are folks who care that their children or future generations might not be negatively adversed by the actions that they take today. Could it?

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Well. I guess we're all just going to die then.

Or maybe not.

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This should be the argument pro-choice people use. "Who cares about aborting a fetus? we're all going to die anyway"

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Well. I guess we're all just going to die then.

Or maybe not.

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I with you. I don't think we all die the way people think of it. Its just a sickness. Not going to get into the "hard science" of it but that why I'm going to freeze myself

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Originally Posted by valade16

This should be the argument pro-choice people use. "Who cares about aborting a fetus? we're all going to die anyway"

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Who cares about crossing the border illegally? We’re all going to die anyways.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Ok but one of the first thing the constitution says is all men are created equal. So this whole make America white again thing is about as anti American as it gets

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which is why MAGA is not about making America white again. this is your perception based on ignorance that you have been told.

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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

Brewers and dbroncsinmo

Is this how you feel when Special posts? Like “yeah I like where you’re coming from and....WHOAH WHOAH easy fella ya gotta put the cap back on the glue before....uhhh.....”(walking away whistling pretending not to see a thing)


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feel free to actually counter what I have said that you clearly want to disagree with.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

which is why MAGA is not about making America white again. this is your perception based on ignorance that you have been told.

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Pretty sure the observable objective fact that Trump has been wrapped in and involved in racism for the outstanding majority of his relevant existence and that he thinks America needs a radical change isn't ignorance, but hey, you clearly only learned who Trump is once he started campaigning--oh wait, that was based on racism too lol.

Guess you don't have an excuse.

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Originally Posted by browski234

Pretty sure the observable objective fact that Trump has been wrapped in and involved in racism for the outstanding majority of his relevant existence and that he thinks America needs a radical change isn't ignorance, but hey, you clearly only learned who Trump is once he started campaigning--oh wait, that was based on racism too lol.

Guess you don't have an excuse.

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I love you trollowski, you are hilarious. you believe whatever you are told by the left, like immigrants are being tortured.

the issue of illegal immigration is not racist. I've showed numerous times that even Democrats used to be against illegal immigration. I've showed numerous times the same conditions in immigrant detention facilities when Obama was President. these are Obama's cages, but keep believing the left.

I even replied to you something to back up what Trump said, and you had no reply.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

it has to be hysterical and hypocritical for you to talk about ignorance and then post delusional ******** like this.

there is delusional, and then there is trollowski. what is your purpose at PSD. it certainly isn't facts. you don't care about facts and what I have actually said, you just ******** about what you think I must have meant, all the way back to when I didn't actually say someone was asking to get shot.

I already backed up where Trump got rapists from, about the illegal immigrants at the border. but here is this article from 2014 again just for trollowski.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5806972.html

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80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

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but where oh where could Trump have gotten the idea that there was rape at the southern border. :eyebrow:

it's obvious that there are people in America gullible enough to believe the narrative that Trump must be anti immigrant, rather than anti ILLEGAL immigrant.

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https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1166495294776893440?s=21

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Good on AOC! She is effectively using her large social media following and basic facts to point out what should be changing.

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https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1166495294776893440?s=21

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7 year old tweets for the win.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

7 year old tweets for the win.

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I just think it’s hilarious that you could pick ANY topic and find Trump contradicting himself on Twitter. He’s like the best politician on steroids. Just no care in the world for being genuine. Complete bull ******* and his base will tell you how “he’s a straight shooter”. Ha!

Tweets where he bashes Obama for golfing too much, and yet he surpassed 8 years of Obama golfing in 3 years as president. Iraq, Iran, Hillary, gay marriage....any topic and you can find a Trump contradiction.

He’s such a **** stirring scumbag.


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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

I just think it’s hilarious that you could pick ANY topic and find Trump contradicting himself on Twitter. He’s like the best politician on steroids. Just no care in the world for being genuine. Complete bull ******* and his base will tell you how “he’s a straight shooter”. Ha!

Tweets where he bashes Obama for golfing too much, and yet he surpassed 8 years of Obama golfing in 3 years as president. Iraq, Iran, Hillary, gay marriage....any topic and you can find a Trump contradiction.

He’s such a **** stirring scumbag.


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He genuinely does not give a ****.

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He genuinely does not give a ****.

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And that doesn't concern anyone? Our president doesn't give a **** about trying to be right or consistent in what he says or does? Really?

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

And that doesn't concern anyone? Our president doesn't give a **** about trying to be right or consistent in what he says or does? Really?

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I don't know what's more concerning... That we have a president who has the attention span of a fly, is more impulsive than my toddler and genuinely only cares about himself, OR.... People, a sizeable number of them, have decided that's a good thing.

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Originally Posted by flips333

I don't know what's more concerning... That we have a president who has the attention span of a fly, is more impulsive than my toddler and genuinely only cares about himself, OR.... People, a sizeable number of them, have decided that's a good thing.

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What is the last one? <Jeopardy style>

"Due to severe racial disparities in certain states, the Electoral College effectively weighs white voters over voters of color, as opposed to a 'one person, one vote' system where all our votes are counted equally."
- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty nine" - Thomas Jefferson

“What me worry?” - Alfred E Neuman

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"Due to severe racial disparities in certain states, the Electoral College effectively weighs white voters over voters of color, as opposed to a 'one person, one vote' system where all our votes are counted equally."
- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty nine" - Thomas Jefferson

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How is this any worse than an electoral college where forty nine percent of the people take away the rights of the other fifty one percent?

If Hillary had one, would this idiot be calling for Electoral College reform???

I don't seem to remember hearing much about this when BO was president.

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How is this any worse than an electoral college where nine percent of the people take away the rights of the other fifty one percent?

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Because it's the white (right) 9% taking rights away from the people.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...te/2167020001/

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But the marchers were met by even more left-wing counter protesters, numbering more than 1,000, turning the event into competing demonstrations. The entire length of the parade's route was flanked with fencing, but the demonstrators followed alongside the whole way en route to City Hall.

Protesters, including many who identified with the anti-fascist group antifa, shouted "Nazi scum!" Some greeted the straight-pride marchers with their middle fingers and yelled expletives. Many LGBTQ advocates protested as well. Other people just stopped to see what was going on.

"Boston doesn't want you!" one man yelled. "We outnumber you!"

A massive contingent of police, including extra officers from neighboring cites, was present throughout, often getting in between the competing sides. They wore helmets, held gas masks and some had military garb. The police presence was so large, and fencing so vast, that many marchers struggled to make their way inside the plaza outside City Hall for the rally that followed the one-hour parade that stetched one mile.

Some counter protesters confronted police, who at one point appeared to use pepper spray on a group of anti-parade demonstrators.

Thirty-six people were arrested for a range of different charges, according to Boston police Sargent Detective John Boyle. He said four officers sustained injuries that were not life-threatening.

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first, why was this called a white supremacist parade?

straight pride should be equal to gay pride.

if people should not be protesting gay pride, then equality should mean people should not be protesting straight pride.

this is a list of people arrested and why..

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09...-pride-parade/

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The following individuals were arrested and charged during the Straight Pride Parade in Boston and the counterprotests surrounding it, according to Boston Police.

Arraignments will take place at Boston Municipal Court.

Timothy Rego, 19, Providence, R.I.: Assault and battery on a police officer, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Benjamin Boyd, 32, Providence, R.I.: Assault and battery on a police officer, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Kenneth Kraft Jr., 24, Bethlehem, Pa.: Assault and battery on a police officer
Jamie Rogers, 26, Methuen: Assault and battery on a police officer
Marisa Shea, 33, Lowell: Assault and battery on a police officer
Leah Hall, 26, Medford: Assault and battery on a police officer
Lillian Monreal, 21, Brockton: Assault and battery on a police officer
Nechama Moring, 37, Boston: Assault and battery on a police officer
Michael Doughty, 24, Falmouth: Assault and battery on a police officer
Michelle Wood, 35, Rehoboth: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, assault by means of a dangerous weapon
Tiana Miles, 28, Allston: Assault and battery by means of a dangerous weapon
Brennan Hopper, 26, Auburn: Disorderly conduct, assault
Richard Wood, 37, Rehoboth: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, carrying a dangerous weapon
Louis Sabino, 36, Beverly: Disorderly conduct, carrying a dangerous weapon
Jared Killelea, 21 Bellingham: Carrying a dangerous weapon, affray
Female juvenile, 15, Southport, Maine: Delinquent to Wit: Assault and battery by means of a dangerous weapon
Nicholas Harris, 23, Princeton, N.J.: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Jackson Bennett, 22, Cambridge: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Roderick Webber, 45, Holbrook: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Daniel Tuttle, 26, Lowell: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Austin George, 21, Worcester: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Joshua Abrams, 31, Stoneham: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Isaac Adelberg, 20, Enfield, Conn: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Juvenile male, 17, Georgetown: Delinquent to Wit: Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
Gregory Garmil, 30, Brighton: Disorderly conduct
Daniel Quiray, 35, Douglas: Disorderly conduct
Nathan Bartels, 27, Newport, R.I.: Disorderly conduct
Matthew Yourtee, 25, Windham, N.H.: Disorderly conduct
Trevor Steele, 21, Westbrooke, Minn: Disorderly conduct
Benjamin Thompson, 29, Providence, R.I.: Disorderly conduct
Frederick Meyer, 21, Cambridge: Disorderly conduct
Gregorio Leon, 21, Cambridge: Disorderly conduct
Lilley Antoinette, 29, Somerville: Disorderly conduct
Jason DeJesus, 18, Pittsford, N.Y.: Disorderly conduct
Rubie Fulford, 20, Roslindale: Disorderly conduct
Laura Potter, 63, West Charleston, Vt.: Disorderly conduct

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there should be no support for "activists" that are arrested for assaulting a police officer or resisting arrest.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/02/a...antifa-boston/

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Promotes Fundraiser For Boston Protesters Associated With Antifa

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Reports from the USA Today and the Herald indicate that many counter-protesters identified with Antifa, a far-left group that embraces violence to achieve political goals.

One member of Antifa told the Herald, “We’re covered in black so when we attack these guys we can’t be prosecuted.”

“They are fascists, 100%. How else are you going to get them to shut up?” he was quoted as saying.

The “Straight Pride Parade,” which took place in Boston Saturday, was planned by Super Happy Fun America, a group which “advocates on behalf of the straight community.”

Though the New York congresswoman refers to the protesters as “white supremacists,” Super Happy Fun America denied having connections to racism in a statement issued to The Daily Caller.

“Not sure which parade and ceremony she watched over the weekend, but of the 12 speakers on our stage, five were African-American, four were women, and three were African-American women. This was not intentional on our behalf, they reached out to us in support of our movement–it happened organically. If you remove the three main organizers from the lineup, the majority of speakers were African-American.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley also shared a link to a bail fundraiser set up in advance of the parade, which gives people the impression that they condone illegal behavior. This is not a good example for elected officials to set, and contributes to dangers associated with free-speech and activism in general.

The only connections to racism are in the deluded minds of protesters who all repeat the same mantra against those whom they disagree with: Racist, Fascist, Nazi, etc., are what detractors fall back on when their arguments are met with logical and rational push-back. They cannot win on an intellectual level, so they resort to name-calling. Those same people must have missed the Israeli flags and African-American supporters in our group.”

The Caller reached out to Rep. Ocasio-Cortez’s office to ask why she is supporting individuals who openly planned violence and allegedly assaulted police officers, but received no comment.

Antifa groups across the United States have engaged in violence with many conservatives and journalists in general in recent years.

In 2018, an NBC News crew was attacked by Antifa members in Charlottesville, Virginia, and reporter Andy Ngo was hospitalized in June after being assaulted by Antifa in Portland, Oregon.

Last year, Fox News host and Daily Caller co-founder Tucker Carlson’s home was subject to Antifa intimidation, as a mob formed outside of his home while his wife was inside alone.

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first, why was this called a white supremacist parade?

straight pride should be equal to gay pride.

if people should not be protesting gay pride, then equality should mean people should not be protesting straight pride.

this is a list of people arrested and why..

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09...-pride-parade/





there should be no support for "activists" that are arrested for assaulting a police officer or resisting arrest.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/02/a...antifa-boston/

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Haha, it's clear what the intention of a "straight pride parade" is

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Haha, it's clear what the intention of a "straight pride parade" is

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straight pride. why is it okay to have gay pride but not okay to have straight pride. that is hypocritical.

if anyone wanting straight pride is doing so because they are anti gay then that is a problem. if people having straight pride just want to be equal then that should be good.

this would be comparable to Black Lives Matter, where BLM does not mean white lives don't matter. having straight pride should not mean they are against gay pride.

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this is why social media can be dangerous, any nut with a lot of followers post this nonsense.

super racist immigration policies. despite this issue with immigration being about illegal vs legal.

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Is it really about illegal vs legal? Have you read about the Canadian citizens who are being denied entry to the US without any reason being given? Oddly turns out they are all Muslim. Or how Trumps policies virtually eliminating legal immigration for most of these people and aid that was actually working in curtailing illegal immigration has resulted in the huge surge in illegal immigration? He’s made his bed, you can try justifying it all you want but the policies Trump has put in place are certainly open to the interpretation of being racist.

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Yeah they sold us the lie it was only about illegal immigration at the start, but now they are full on doing everything they can to stop and restrict legal immigration as well.

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Is it really about illegal vs legal? Have you read about the Canadian citizens who are being denied entry to the US without any reason being given? Oddly turns out they are all Muslim. Or how Trumps policies virtually eliminating legal immigration for most of these people and aid that was actually working in curtailing illegal immigration has resulted in the huge surge in illegal immigration? He’s made his bed, you can try justifying it all you want but the policies Trump has put in place are certainly open to the interpretation of being racist.

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Bolded…this is a bit hard to believe. They must have been told something. Awfully hard tyo believe the border agent simply said "no, turn around and go home."

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Bolded…this is a bit hard to believe. They must have been told something. Awfully hard tyo believe the border agent simply said "no, turn around and go home."

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No, they held them for hours and questioned them.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5264218

And before you say, well that’s just 6 people, it’s 6 people in two weeks who have gone to the same law firm.

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Originally Posted by valade16

How is this any worse than an electoral college where forty nine percent of the people take away the rights of the other fifty one percent?

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Upon further review, this was not a quote from Jefferson. Don't believe everything you read on the internet:o

We must consider long-term interests rather than short-term gratifications. To do this we must avoid impulses of passion and conflicts of interest. The American constitutional system is not a direct democracy but is a representative republic. According to classical theory, republics could exist only in relatively small territories, where citizens knew one another personally and could assemble face-to-face.
The internet has made the American democracy more inclusive than it was in the Founders’ day, amplifying the voices of women, minorities, and other disadvantaged groups they excluded. And although our national politics is deadlocked by partisanship, compromise remains possible at the local level, where activism is often organized online and can lead to real change.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

straight pride. why is it okay to have gay pride but not okay to have straight pride. that is hypocritical.

if anyone wanting straight pride is doing so because they are anti gay then that is a problem. if people having straight pride just want to be equal then that should be good.

this would be comparable to Black Lives Matter, where BLM does not mean white lives don't matter. having straight pride should not mean they are against gay pride.

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this is why social media can be dangerous, any nut with a lot of followers post this nonsense.

super racist immigration policies. despite this issue with immigration being about illegal vs legal.

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lol, it's not hypocritical

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Originally Posted by nastynice

lol, it's not hypocritical

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All these straight pride parades are for us for people who are gay but hate themselves for being gay to socialize.

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Is it really about illegal vs legal? Have you read about the Canadian citizens who are being denied entry to the US without any reason being given? Oddly turns out they are all Muslim. Or how Trumps policies virtually eliminating legal immigration for most of these people and aid that was actually working in curtailing illegal immigration has resulted in the huge surge in illegal immigration? He’s made his bed, you can try justifying it all you want but the policies Trump has put in place are certainly open to the interpretation of being racist.

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No, they held them for hours and questioned them.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5264218

And before you say, well that’s just 6 people, it’s 6 people in two weeks who have gone to the same law firm.

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I have heard nothing at all about immigration from Canada.
6 is such a small number it's nothing compared to anything at the southern border.

what specific policies would be more racist?

Trump has called for legal merit based immigration.

in order to show that Trump is against legal immigration one would have to show that Trump wants to stop all immigration. not limiting legal immigration because that itself is still wanting legal immigration.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

lol, it's not hypocritical

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yes it is.
there would be 2 comparable sexual orientations. gay and straight. gay pride is apparently great, they have parades. so why would it not be the same to have pride for being straight. that is not equality, that is hypocritical.

if anyone actually wants real equality then things should be EQUAL for both gay and straight.