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Not to their face, but here behind their back you are, yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Nobody is reacting by the way, it's no more reaction to call your posts bigoted for your views espoused here than it is to call a banana a banana. It is merely an observation.
No, that’s not what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Your reply is a reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Cause of your pay checkQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
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More like a response. A reaction would be the feeling of revulsion you get when you see a homosexual or a cross-dresser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Then what are you saying. Should we be following Deuteronomy or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
No, it isn’t what I said. Some Old Testament laws still apply. Some do not. When Jesus fulfilled the law and made a new covenant with the world, he didn’t say, “Okay, you can all be gay now! That old law is gone.” The laws that God put in place for the world still apply. The laws for the people of Israel at the time were no longer necessary after Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
I have a good friend who is gay. He does “pup play”, I think it’s called, where he and his husband go to a big convention with other people who dress like dogs. It’s odd, but like I’ve said time and again here, I don’t actually care what anyone does in their personal life. He’s a good dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Ok, I understand. I’m asking which laws were for the people of Israel at the time and which still apply, and how do we tell which are which (or where does it say which are which)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Like I know the Ten Commandments still apply, but was Deuteronomy the laws that still apply or the laws for back then? Or if parts are and parts aren’t, how do you know which are still applicable and which are not?
And you tell the difference between these by...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Does it? Not a whole lot of "honoring the Sabbath Day" going on. Strict interpretations of "covet thy neighbor's house" and "wife" would say that there's plenty of that going on with Christians today, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
The best analogy I can make is this…Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
When you were in high school, there were laws for life and laws for high school. As long as you were in high school, you were bound by the law of your school. Things like, you had to be at school at 7:45, in class X by a certain time, the educational requirements, etc. You were also bound by the laws for life. Do not murder, do not steal, or even things like the laws of the road or paying taxes if you worked. Once you graduated high school, you were no longer bound by the laws of your school. You fulfilled the requirements, their purpose, and you were no longer under the rule of that law. But the laws of life still apply as they always did.
So when Jesus fulfilled the law, he fulfilled some of it, while other laws, the laws for life as put forth by God, still apply as they always did. The way that we know which apply, and which do not, first comes by studying and understanding why certain Old Testament laws were there in the first place. Like the animal sacrifices. Once Jesus was sacrificed, that law become obsolete. But it was necessary for the people who were under it at that time because Jesus the messiah had not yet been born and sacrificed. The next way that we know what applies to today comes from what Jesus preached, specifically about what is sinful, what God considers an abomination, what we should do, what we shouldn’t do, etc. While Jesus never specifically says, “Guys, don’t dress like the ladies.” He is consistent in his condemnation of sexual immorality, which the Bible laid out as being any sex that does not happen between a man and wife within the context of their marriage. Included in that, are roles for man and woman in the marriage and in life.
Of course there is. Christians are human and are going to sin. It’s unavoidable. Only Jesus was perfect. There isn’t one human being on this earth right now that doesn’t sin on a daily basis, whether it’s by action, by thought. But that’s why Jesus was sacrificed. He paid the penalty for it. It doesn’t mean you can go about sinning in life and just say, “no, I’m covered. I’m a Christian.” You are expected to seek to live in Christ-like perfection, but for us in this life, it is unattainable.Quote:
Originally Posted by natepro
You seem to think I said here that Christians should be perfect, and I didn't. I know the whole schpiel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
My point was that Christians today actively don't care about those things. Most of them don't even recognize the Sabbath to begin with, much less "keep it holy." Ask anyone that works in a restaurant on Sunday how holy that crowd is.