To a point where the prejudice in the system is getting less and lessQuote:
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To a point where the prejudice in the system is getting less and lessQuote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
because I question whether that is the reason that PSD left wont comment on her stupidity. she's on your side so therefore PSD left doesn't want to talk about her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
that is why I also said this..
since this has been deflected from what I originally said, here it is again..Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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if I have an unhealthy obsession with AOC, then PSD left has an even worse obsession with Trump. you know this is a politics forum right, not simply about the President.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
what does this say?Quote:
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Originally Posted by valade16
you mean what I have done? Trump has said many stupid things, that I have posted about. I was the first person here to call out his stupidity on wind turbines causing cancer.
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Trump has said many stupid things, where I have posted about it.
AOC has said many stupid things, where I have posted about, where PSD left has not. when is PSD left going to call out AOC's stupidity. it's really not that hard to post against some of the things she says.
I would also like to add to the likes of nastynice, trolloswki, and anyone else that I have told to find previous posts. I expect what I just did. I found previous posts of mine to back up what I have said.
while people are busy arguing against me, what I posted about AOC gets ignored.
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AOC says things that are worth criticizing.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...n-of-color-its
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Ocasio-Cortez accuses Pelosi of 'persistent singling out' of women of color: It's 'outright disrespectful'
I guess Nancy Pelosi must be racist, or AOC is just stupid and full of ****.Quote:
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) accused Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) of repeatedly singling out newly elected women of color in the House, saying that the veteran congresswoman's criticism has become "outright disrespectful."
Ocasio-Cortez made the remarks in an interview with The Washington Post late Wednesday after a day of heightened tensions between Pelosi and House Democrats.
“When these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm’s distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood,” Ocasio-Cortez told the Post.
“But the persistent singling out … it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful … the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color,” she added.
The remarks came hours after Pelosi, at a closed-door meeting of the caucus earlier Wednesday, admonished her party for openly attacking one another over policy disputes. Pelosi has consistently dismissed some of the policies floated by the more liberal members of the caucus, most recently using a New York Times interview over the weekend to question the influence of four outspoken freshmen known as “the squad” — Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) and Ocasio-Cortez.
“All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world,” she said to The New York Times. “But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got.”
Ocasio-Cortez, who has been outspoken on a bevy of issues since being sworn in, responded to the comment on Twitter on Saturday, saying, "That public 'whatever' is called public sentiment."
"And wielding the power to shift it is how we actually achieve meaningful change in this country," she added.
In a closed-door caucus meeting Wednesday, Pelosi called on Democrats to stop taking public shots at one another, according to a source in the room.
“You got a complaint? You come and talk to me about it. But do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that that is just OK,” Pelosi said.
Pelosi's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.
Ocasio-Cortez has reportedly been urged to talk with Pelosi, though she told the Post she isn't interested in doing so. Ocasio-Cortez's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.
The Washington Post, citing lawmakers who know both lawmakers, reported that Pelosi and Ocasio-Cortez have not met for a one-on-one meeting since the New York lawmaker declined Pelosi's request to join a committee focused on climate change.
Pelosi reportedly called out Ocasio-Cortez for rejecting the offer during a private progressive caucus meeting just days later, according to the Post. The House Speaker has since made comments dismissing the Ocasio-Cortez-backed Green New Deal and Ocasio-Cortez's surprise primary win over former Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.), the Post noted.
“The third and fourth time [she insulted me], it was like, ‘This is unnecessary, but I'm not going to pick a fight over it. Whatever, I’ll be the punching bag if that’s what they want me to be,’” Ocasio-Cortez said.
when will more people object to the playing of the race card to play a victim.
the reality is here and almost the entirety for criticism against AOC and other minority Democrats that it's not about them being a minority or being women. the criticism they receive is almost entirely based on the specific things they say.
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Originally Posted by ewing
Hatred is like poisoning yourself and expecting someone else to die.
Honestly at this point, I don't really get why Conservatives are wasting their time with Pelosi. Maybe that's hyperbolic, but she's much more of a consistent gift to them and Trump than she should have any business being.
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Originally Posted by flips333
If loud noise causes cancer, then wouldn't every rock star have cancer? If Trump really said that, it's pretty disturbing.
AOC now wants to end the Department of Homeland Security as well as ICE. The DHS protects us from terrorists. Next she will probably want to get rid of the military and give tax money to Mexican drug cartels and ISIS.
By the way, how does this snot-nosed brat even quality for Congress? I thought you had to be at least 35 years old to serve there.
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Originally Posted by MidwestJimmy
I don't think that I could support ending DHS any more. What have they actually done? The department is a bureaucratic nightmare specifically designed to limit our freedom and control us. What terrorist attacks have they actually stopped? Please be specific...because when tested in any measure they're an abysmal failure. They let items through security that shouldn't get through and they hassle little old ladies needlessly. There is no objective review of DHS that ends with the person saying "wow that was a good use of tax dollars".Quote:
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Oops. Looks like it’s time for someone go back to junior high civics class (do they even have those classes anymore?)Quote:
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I just ignored that one. It doesn't seem like it's worth discussing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Interesting syntax problem. I take it from the rest of the post that you mean that your really want the DHS to be disbanded (as opposed to having changed your mind).Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
The DHS was a boondoggle from the outset. It was put in place basically for PR purposes — to assure a frightened population that the Bush Administration was all over this trrism thing.Quote:
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It should never have come into existence — nor for that matter should the entire Patriot Act.
Yeah dude. She's definitely ready to start giving money to ISIS and drug cartels.Quote:
Originally Posted by MidwestJimmy
Jesus Christ dude. Use your brain.
But, getting past your nonsense....
DHS is one of the most wasteful and bloated government agencies there is. What it perhaps succeeds best at is absolutely hemorrhaging and utterly wasting taxpayer money. Many, many billions of dollars just completely evaporated because of its incompetence. We survived plenty well before it existed, and could survive plenty well after its existence. At the very least it needs a massive overhaul and a significant paring down. It baffles me so much how all the anti-big government/anti-taxpayer waste people love such ineffective institutions like the DHS. Love wasting all the money on the world on war and "defense", especially if it's in lieu of actually helping out struggling Americans.
ICE has existed also for less than two decades, mostly serves to funnel taxpayer money to various private entities. It's one of the greatest perpetrators of sexual abuse and child trafficking in this country, too. There are a million better ways to handle our immigration problems than the evil and ineptitude that is ICE. It's brimming with horrible people doing horrible things. We are a supposedly great country: we can handle this much better than we are.
EDIT: dbroncs touched on DHS well too.
A mountain of self quotes and copy/pasting dictionary definitions....classic FNK.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Hahaha...yes. I was trying to say that I believe that my support for ending DHS could not go any higher. It is at its zenith. They have a lofty goal and fail to meet any of them. They do not keep the homeland safe. They actively restrict our rights and they don't prevent attacks. Ben Franklin's quote about freedom and security should be re-written to specifically apply to them and say that people who give away freedom for no security are ****ing morons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
I can think of someone running for President who voted against the creation of the DHS and who also voted against the creation of ICE. Almost two decades ago.
de Blasio however is the only one I'm aware of that is on the record for wanting to abolish ICE. We don't know what Biden wants (like many issues). Warren, Sanders and Harris are varying levels of "don't outright abolish it, but restructure it".
Worth pointing out how conservative Obama's DHS secretary was. We shouldn't be content with electing someone who would hire someone like Jeh Johnson to run the DHS. Like Obama did. We can do much better.
EDIT: Jeh Johnson being on the board of Lockheed Martin now says all that needs to be said. In many ways, these moderate Dems are no better than their Republican counterparts.