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20,000 in an adjoining area would provide jobs to 20,000 people from all around the facility. All over the metro area. She cost her people (and her city) thousands of jobs and billions and billions of $$$$ in revenue…all because the stupid kid with an Economics degree has no understanding of economics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
As you said…like shooting fish in a barrel.
Ask anyone that has actually earned something how they feel about free rides.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
Bold 1…googled "Alexandria Ocasio Cortez News Articles" First two pages had 24 articles. 3 from FOX News (GASP!!!!) 3 from the NY Post, 2 from someting called "Mashable" 2 from Breitbart and a selection of others. So your theory holds no water.Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
If FOX News (GASP!!!) mentions her, it is because she doing/saying something (usually saying something incredibly dumb.) She also tweets a lot and puts photos of herself all over the internet. She revels in this crap.
All that, and she has accomplished ………nothing.
Bottom line here is that you like her and I don't. I doubt if either one of us will change the other's mind.
Lolol if you google anyone you will get stories. If I do the same for another senator or house rep is that proof enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
They covered her 76 times per day for 6 weeks lol. Explain the thousands of issues they covered in that time or else just admit they focus on her to rile up the base. It clearly works, look at you go.
You obviously don't like her and that is the point. All your arguments are based on that bias just like foxs approach. I care far less about her than you do, between us only one truly likes/dislikes her in a majorly biased way... Similar to your approach on Omar
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Just pretend she's white and she hates Latinos...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
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Well, I asked myself and I'm cool with it. Where are these free rides going, btw, and who is paying for them? Are we doing this while talking in complete generality thing because we dont want to talk about details, because we dont know the details, or because we prefer to talk about anonymous free stuff to any actual policy proposals? This highly educated woman tending bar in an effort to get and give free stuff without earning anything has me perplexed. Anyway, back to going on about things you cant really speak to then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Let's try to cover the original point you brought up………Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
You said………
This is because Fox news and the like are catering their stories to people like yourself, they put them in the news because they rile you up so much.
I mentioned that she is in the news (meaning all news) constantly. A simple search showed FOX News (GASP!!!) a few times but no more than the NY Post and only once more than other sources. That doesn't sound like FOX News (GASP!!!!) is covering her all that much more than other outlets. That doesn't sound like FOX News (GASP!!!!) Is catering therir stories to "people like myself."
Second point was that FOX News (DASP!!!) covers (wait for it) the news. FOX News (Gasp!!!) doesn't tell this idiot tof twitter her views, thoughts and photos all over the internet. As soon as she does … it becomes news. Some of her tweets are so stupid (like people rioting because the have no bread) makes it big news and will be repeated by FOX News (GASP!!!) and many. many others.
Absolutely correct. I dislike any congressional that is doing harm to the US. She is one of many. She gets the most publicity.
How much of her $175K salary has she donated to the poor and hungry???? I bet I've donated more while making far less.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
No, what you did is say you googled her and multiple sources showed up on your search engine. I pointed out this happens when you google any politician. I noted Fox News specifically covered her over 3000 times in 6 weeks though. You have provided NOTHING to counter this or explain it in any way or show other stations doing the same. I provided a link with the study in it as well even.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Fox covers the news in a specific way catering to a specific audience just like other stations/programs. They cover her in specific ways, focusing on things in the way you do often and the stupid bartender kid angle to portray her negatively. You find it stupid as Fox portrays it as stupid and they focus on it 76 times per day to keep your riled up and believing she is literally everywhere all the time on everyone mind or some nonsense. You, Special, Fox are the ones who focus on her to an extreme and keep her so relevant, it's so disingenuous to constantly bring her up and whine while whining she is being brought up so much how do you not see this lol.
You dislike specific individuals and often without clear reasoning/standards. If say the actual POTUS who actually would matter to the normal American acted stupid/dumb/divisive you wouldn't rant in nearly the same way as you do for AOC or Omar two random people who have 0 to do with you as far as you have shared as they represent different areas. You are choosing to focus all your time and energy into people like this for some reason no one could possibly ever know when you say things like you hope muslims in politics doesn't happen more or whatever.
Bold 1…… "clear reasoning/standard"…… Show me anything positive this dimwit has doneQuote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
Bold 2……Wrong again. I have criticized Trump numerous times for: all the silly tweets, for being polarizing, for being an abysmal speaker, for saying the wrong things at the wrong time
Your arguments hold no water.
I have earned much in my life. If someone gave me a winning lottery ticket for millions of dollars I'd take it :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
And how many times do CNN or MSNBC mention Trump on a daily basis?Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
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Ones the president and ones a junior congressional. Either way, no one in their right mind should watch FOX, CNN or MSNBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
AOC has the biggest following in Congress by far. This isn’t just some random house memberQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
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Do you think AOC has literally never done anything positive? Serious question? I already had to show this for you with Omar because you said she never said anything positive about America when obviously she has you are just ignorant and believe fox news. Are they the ones that told you she never did anything positive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
If I answer the question you can just say no because positive is subjective. The issue is you are focused on her in this manner when she has 0 bearing on you in any way other than being all over your favorite media.
Lolol no you don't. If you can quote 30+ posts right now I will believe you. I can easily do this for AOC and Omar in 10 minutes because of how often you rant/rave and call them dimwits/kids/morons or focus on their identity.
Tons, he is the actual POTUS that would make sense to cover on a daily basis lol he is actually the leader of America. You get the difference between their positions right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
To be clear both those stations suck too still.
And?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
He's the president. There's no comparison
(1) Long Island City is not her district, (2) none of her constituants were guaranteed a job by Amazon, (3) it is only speculation as to what “would” have transpired in terms of jobs and money (in other words, she cost her people nothing), and (4) Ocasio-Cortez was only one of many NYC voices who questioned the enterprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
And no backsliding deflection on you part (“adjoining area” “metro area”— ha) will change the fact that you totally lost on this one.
I’m sure you have a black friend too lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Sorry, you being critical of white people sometimes doesn’t magically excuse your racism.
Several black friends…we get along just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by browski234
Approx 1/3 of my block is owned by black or poc neighbors…we get along just fine.
Curious……How tall are you because a lot of simple concepts seems to go over your head.
Dumb post even after you tried to edit a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Point by point………
1 Difference between Long Island City and Jackson Heights is probably 5 miles (or even less). Some people in NYC probably walk 5 miles to avoid transit costs, or ride a bike. 5 Miles is nothing. The distance is even more meaningless in a city that probably has the best mass transit system in the world (London is up there too.).
Anyone else reading this……would your community like to have 20,000 jobs pop up within 5 miles of your community??? You bet they would. (Now start the environmental comebacks.)
2 No one is guaranteed anything. But it is not a stretch to believe that a fair portion of 20,000 jobs popping up 5 miles away would go to some of those people. To add to the point…jobs filled at Amazon by other areas would cause openings in those other areas that could be filled by residents of Jackson Heights.
3 No, not entirely speculation. The construction plans were fairly set, job estimates by people like Amazon would be pretty accurate. The estimates in terms of jobs and $$$ were there and done by professionals that know what they are doing not simply thrown out in a PowerPoint presentation. She cost her people 20,000 opportunities and from what I have seen in pictures of her in her district, these people could use the opportunities.
4. Ocasio Cortez was the pointman on this…there is no question about that.
You're supposed to be some sort of professor??? Professor of what…certainly not economics. You seem to know less about economics that a Manhattan bartender.
Any state would do anything necessary to get a deal like Amazon. Even California, Texas or Florida, the three biggies for jobs that don't need Amazon to be successful, would fight to get this deal. The dimwit blew it. You don't let 20,000 jobs get away…especially when you have them in your hands. The thought of losing jobs is why communities, cities, states fight so hard to avoid base closures, factory shutdowns etc.
She throws out the billions of dollars in tax deals (to the horrifying rich) Amazonn woukd have received and matches that to money we could all use for housing and to feed the poor (them again). All people see is rich get free stuff while we get screwed. They (along with you apparently) cannot comprehend the economic impact of 20,000 jobs. Problem is that you could build housing and feed the poor and nothing would change. The housing would quickly get run down and you would still have the poor crying for more housing and more free stuff..
The problem you have here is that you are trying to justify a really stupid move on this kid's part.
Nothing will change the fact that you totally lost on this one.
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Does this mean thet you are the Professor of Silly Faces????Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Nah. That’s SpliffTONE. I wonder where he’s been?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Me, I’m just applauding your rant.
You are kind of like the guy who repeats over and over what he said (in English) to someoneone who does not understand English, and each time he repeats it, he just says it louder and slower (as if somehow that’ll solve the communication problem).
Not a rant at all. just a lucid explanation to a post loaded with misinformation..Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
And a lot of people in here don't understand stuff.
Ain’t that truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
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Originally Posted by mngopher35
yes it must be Fox News's fault for covering the idiotic things that AOC says. :rolleyes:
it's not any media's fault for covering what a radical outspoken politician is saying, especially when there are many examples of her being stupid.
Haha, I can guarantee that's not the case. If we can tell you're a racist just from your posts believe me your neighbors can tell too. They may wave at you, but I'm curious what they think when they do, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
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You’ve told us 100 times you wouldn’t buy property in a back neighborhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
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He’s including white people with really dark tans in his definition of POC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
You vote Trump. You don’t care about stupid. If you did you would vote with some integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
So gtfo with this BS.
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There goes that radical AOC again:
https://www.thenation.com/article/so...dentification/
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How scandalous!Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
In a brief but heated exchange, which was overheard by a reporter, Yoho told Ocasio-Cortez she was "disgusting" for recently suggesting that poverty and unemployment are driving a spike in crime in New York City during the coronavirus pandemic.
"You are out of your freaking mind," Yoho told her.
Ocasio-Cortez shot back, telling Yoho he was being "rude."
The two then parted ways. Ocasio-Cortez headed into the building, while Yoho, joined by Rep. Roger Williams (R-Texas), began descending toward the House office buildings. A few steps down, Yoho offered a parting thought to no one in particular.
"****ing *****," he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...s-that-kind-of
Not overly surprising given fox news and the posters we see on here daily focused on AOC evil/bad and so on randomly for things like gardening or having different opinions than them. At this point the goal just seems attack her or Omar for no reason at all, other than apparently riling up the base as we see here often.
The article clearly states what she was attacked for and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
Having different opinions? Yup I said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
“Crime is a problem of a diseased society, which neglects its marginalized people," she said during the July 9 event. "Policing is not the solution to crime.”
Ocasio-Cortez went on to propose that "economic desperation" caused by the coronavirus pandemic — combined with glitches in the delivery of federal stimulus checks and unemployment payments — has helped trigger the crime spike.
"Maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to pay their rent, and so they go out and they need to feed their child and they don't have money," she said. "So ... they're put in a position where they feel like they either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry that night."
"I say, 'Listen, I'm not talking about violent crime, I'm not talking about shootings. But when it comes to petty theft, a lot of these are crimes of poverty, and people are desperate,'" she said. "So the right wing cuts up this clip, per usual, in a very misleading way. ... They basically [want] to make it seem as though I'm saying people are shooting each other because they're hungry."
Ocasio-Cortez acknowledged that her outspoken advocacy of liberal policies has made her an easy target of conservatives.
"Obviously, I'm no stranger to this," she said.
But the confrontation with Yoho was something new.
"In all these intense news cycles, I have never, ever been treated that way by another member before," she said. "I'm frankly quite taken aback."
This covers what she actually said, feel free to explain how evil this is if you actually think it is so. There is a huge push from conservative media like Fox, posters on this site like special/Sluggo and dbroncs chiming in now too focusing on her bad with very little actual reasoning ever explained. So what is the major issue with what she is saying here that makes this so bad/deserving of that confrontation?
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...133217506.html
Kilmeade’s tweet read, “Is this what @realDonaldTrump has been saying?”
The Ocasio-Cortez tweet in question was fake, which observers immediately began telling Kilmeade. CNN’s Jake Tapper wrote exasperatedly, “That’s not real, Brian. It was debunked a long time ago. Good Lord.”
Late Monday, he deleted the tweet and posted a new one apologizing, but the words in the tweet were all in quotation marks: “‘I have deleted my earlier tweet regarding Rep. Cortez, I apologize for the error.'”
I mean just a quick search of her and look what comes up first, fox news member sharing a fake tweet/relating to POTUS past remarks. I shared the article/study about covering her over 70 times per day on fox as well.
So sluggu is Ted Yoho in real life huh?
Looking like more and more brown shirts crawling out from under their rocks.