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And no doubt pushed by the DNC. They apparently love telling congress people who don't "play the game" that this will be their only term. I'm sure the GOP does the same thing. It's yet another reason why we don't get people who speak their mind in congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
How many jobs would this idiot have to lose before you would vote her out???Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
just wondering.
Look in the mirror.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
First you'd have to prove causation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
I haven't cost your district any jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
Amazon is coming to the district before this idiot is elected. (The have plans, mockups, artist conceptions, funding etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
She speaks out against Amazon.
Amazon decides to go elsewhere.
Seems like causation tp me.
Emphasis on “seems.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Jobs are coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Someone speaks badly about company bringing those jobs.
Company then decides not to come.
That's causation.
Wow. Godlike in her powers. And I thought she was just a bartender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Here's a plan, if you don't like her move to her district and vote for her opponent in the next election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Well, that's what she is.
She's the graduate with a degree in economics that can't get a job in the business capital of the world.
You can put anyone in any position, that doesn't mean they are qualified.
You can hand me a scalpel and give me a set of scrubs but that doesn't make me a doctor.
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Originally Posted by valade16
Move to the South Bronx??????????
Are there no apartments available in Mogadishu????? Damascus????
But then you say that she is so powerful that she caused none other than Jeff Bezos to turn tail and run away from her?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Sounds like she found her calling.
Well you constantly say instead of complaining about Trump you should just not vote for him. So instead of constantly complaining about AOC (and yes, you constantly complain about her), you should just not vote for her, or vote against her (but that would entail moving to the South Bronx).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Also, you're getting your racism mixed up, she's Hispanic, not Muslim. Your correct racist line should have been "Are there no apartments available in Mexico or Guatemala?"
I don't think that is going to happen since it is largely made up of poor Latinos, blacks and foreign immigrants and has been hit really hard by the pandemic. More die there than in the twin towers on 9/11.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
And Hitler did his best for population control.
Nothing to do with racism…but you knew that.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
I was comparing the South Bronx with other miserable broken down places in the world…but you knew that too.
And as far as "complaining" about AOC…I comment when she is in the news, which is fairly often. If Wacky Maxine was in the news, I'd comment about her.
Meaning what????Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
So if Trump is in the news, people are OK to comment on him without you telling people to stop complaining and just not vote for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Difference being…Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Trump is the President iof the US and not some little freshman congressional turd that knows nothing about what she is talking about
Trump is the leader of the most important country on the planet. AOC is the leader of one of worst neighborhoods in the US
Trump has created numerous jobs, AOC has lost numerous jobs.
Trump has improved the world's leading economy. AOC has presentus us with a $30 trillion impossibility.
Trump has lived a successful life. He has built buildings, resorts, businesses etc.. AOC has built Screwdrivers (probably with the instructions nearby).
Come back when she has actually done something.
That you wouldn't move to a poor non-white area suffering from a high rate of inflection. Please tell me I am wrong and how open you are to move there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Pretty good quip for a Crovash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Trump is the President of the United States and a little freshman president turd that knows nothing about what he is talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
They are not so different. In fact, the only difference is you actually believe all the BS Trump says and not AOC.
AOC = Hitler!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
She is half your age and had done twice as much as you or I alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
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LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Yup it was AOC who commanded Amazon not to come, that’s some real ****ing great powers from a freshman house member.
She does not represent the south Bronx.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
She actually represents parts of Pelham and Morris park in the and city island and van nest in the Bronx, some pretty good neighborhoods and in queens her district includes Corona, college point and Astoria again some very good neighborhoods.
Lol again if she is some lowly freshman house member how did she lost jobs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Is this one of these 1+1 = 3 equations?
Amazon did not build its plan because of AOC.
Yeah! My team is awesome and your team sucks!
No, it is my team that is awesome and your team sucks!
This isn’t political discourse is Dodger and Giants fans pretending politics is a sport.
Way to live a successful life Donald J Trump. Can’t imagine how you were able to do it. It’s amazing everyone doesn’t just follow your model of success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
what do you expect this is a sports site.Quote:
Originally Posted by GasMan
You can't see how she helped to blow the Amazon deal??? Really???Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
You have to be blind not to see this.
She is less than half my age.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
And what has se accomplished??? She was elected by a few thousand votes and hasn't really done anything in congress other than get publicity.
That's not accomplishing all that much.
And blowing the Amazon deal (20,000 jobs) … I guess that's an accomplishment in a sense. Not too many could do that. Sort of like winning the lottery, then losing the ticket.
Again she could be opposed to it. But she had zero weight in their decision. The governor who has far more power was for it and he could not keep the deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
For somebody that thinks she is a nobody you give her way more credit for something she really has no say in.
The amazon deal was problematic in NYC. It was gonna increase transportation and housing costs and would have largely brought in out of state workers, and would have come with a big tax break. This is a real problem in pockets of the country. Concentration of high wage sectors drive up cost of living especially housing costs crowding out lower wage support workers. The fact that amazon narrowed their search to metro DC and NYC was baffling. Why wouldn’t they pick a part of the country that needs the employment and needs the infrastructure that would have come with it. It may have required more up front costs buy it would have been an enormous PR move and would have allowed for lower long term costs. The consolidation of corporate power has exasperated the corporate move to the coasts hollowing out once great cities, this was a good example.
Bold…She created so much bad publicity for Amazon that they went elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
And the governor has far more weight. However, Amazon doesn't need the potential headache. Who wants trouble??? I (and anyone) could see AOC and all her buds who are out there "for the people." protesting everything Amazon does. First protest would be over what they feel is low wages. Who needs it??? Certainly not Amazon.
Amazon is the proverbial 800 pound gorilla here. They came to the district bearing gifts. Anywhere in the US needs Amazon more than they need anywhere in the US. Cities are falling over themselves to get a leading company that provides jobs to come to their community. They're going to go where they are appreciated. Who needs the grief when others are much more accommodating???
In terms that you can understand…Sort of like the Mets saying they want to leave NYC. A dozen cities will fight for that pearl. But if some city has a mouthy councilperson that bad mouths the community spending $$$$ to bring them there, whining that the $$$ could be better spent elsewhere, no stadiums for billionaires etc. (and this gains publicity)…that city would be out of the running.
I don't know how you can't see that.
You can slice and dice this think any way you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by GasMan
Bottom line……it is 20,000 jobs.
Out of state workers…are now instate workers that are taxable (and what is the difference between bringing in out of state workers and out of country jobless immigrants)
Big tax breaks … lead to more taxable people
Yada, yada, yada,
Try talking to your governor about a project that will bring 20,000 jobs to the state…he'll listen.
If you are trying to justify losing 20,000 jobs … it pretty much cannot be done.
But keep trying
AOC represents people who live there who don’t want to see the cost of living go up and their already busy transportation infrastructure be further taxed. Unemployment in NYC isn’t the problem it is in other parts of the country. So it’s reasonable that the people in her district would have seen amazon coming to their area as a net negative. Of course Cuomo in Albany loves more jobs in his state but that doesn’t mean AOC shouldn’t be looking out for her constituents.
Me and Sluggo had a long discussion where we went over why AOC would very reasonably be against Amazon coming to her district bc it would not benefit her constituents. He disagreed with her but understood the perspective. he likes to forget these things so he can rail about how she is an idiot bartenderQuote:
Originally Posted by GasMan
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