Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Crovash

The funny thing is that there is a religion sub-forum, but other then Brett, none of these so-called Christians ever post there — whether out of arrogance, ignorance, or fear, I do not know.

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Yes, fear, because saying the same thing in this forum versus that one is somehow different.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

Yes, fear, because saying the same thing in this forum versus that one is somehow different.

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Believe me, I am perfectly happy to share my views on religion, in particular Christianity, but I have for the most part deferred to the forum rules up until now, and generally I have tried to restrict my religious observations to ones that I offer in response to other posters when they bring some so-called god or some allegedly sacred writing into the discussion.

I said fear because several posters (siteWolf and 20thK) bailed altogether because they apparently couldn’t handle their beliefs being questioned.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Believe me, I am perfectly happy to share my views on religion, in particular Christianity, but I have for the most part deferred to the forum rules up until now, and generally I have tried to restrict my religious observations to ones that I offer in response to other posters when they bring some so-called god or some allegedly sacred writing into the discussion.

I said fear because several posters (siteWolf and 20thK) bailed altogether because they apparently couldn’t handle their beliefs being questioned.

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Bailed? I don’t think I’ve seen either of those guys on any forum in a long time.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

homosexuality has nothing to do with this, why did you even bring it up.

men dressing up in women's clothing the way they do whether they are gay or straight is not normal and shouldn't be normalized.

this is not normal..

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I guess this is an example of that diverse collection of media you get your opinions from.

Again, though, you're acting like normal = good, and that's not remotely automatic. You have yet to show how any of this is bad.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

Bailed? I don’t think I’ve seen either of those guys on any forum in a long time.

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That’s my point.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

You libs always take it back to the repressed feelings and desires. What is it that you are repressing ewing? Do you want to be a drag queen? You know that there’s nothing stopping you from doing it, right? Do it if that’s what you desire. Live your life on your terms, man.

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No you always go back stereotypes. I’ve never said anything about projection or repressed desires to anyone but you. I’m Ewing. Your the one trying to hide behind the labels


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Originally Posted by Crovash

That’s my point.

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Get over yourself. lol This place has been hemorrhaging posters for years.

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Originally Posted by ewing

No you always go back stereotypes. I’ve never said anything about projection or repressed desires to anyone but you. I’m Ewing. Your the one trying to hide behind the labels


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I don’t hide behind anything. I very plainly and frequently state my beliefs and opinions here and I never back down from them.

I got a good laugh out of you calling it projecting and then in your very next post saying that I’m repressing desires. That’s good ****, pal! lol

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Originally Posted by Crovash

The funny thing is that there is a religion sub-forum, but other then Brett, none of these so-called Christians ever post there — whether out of arrogance, ignorance, or fear, I do not know.

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To be honest, I don't, very strongly, care what non-believers have to say about my faith. I will be first to admit I have a problem with some of the things in the Bible and especially how it is used, so I cherry-picked as I have with eastern religions as well to form spiritual guidance suited for myself. So it isn't arrogance, especially not ignorance which non-believers like to cast on those who have faith, or fear, of what? I just don't want to hear your bs and I don't share will you what you consider is bs on my part. Really, I think anybody who ignores the spiritual aspect of themselves is ignorant.

Don't take this personally, it just my way with non-believers. No hostility meant, we each much find our own way in the way suited for ourselves. there are many paths to the divine, so who am I to say you aren't on a path.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

Yes, because of the part of your post that I bolded. You shifted the conversation when you said that he personally wasn’t doing anything about Covid. You made the conversation about him.

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Obviously, I cannot confirm his Covid habits anymore than I can confirm his 35” waist or his $1,000,000 construction profits.

But if he is doing a lot to protect from Covid, that makes him a hypocrite to understand the need for protection measures and to adopt them and then to champion a state that does not over those that do.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

If you’ve read anything I’ve said over the last several pages, you know that it isn’t this simple. And I know you’ve read it, you just conveniently disregarded all of it to focus on this one particular issue you’re fixated with.

Perfection is impossible. But, we are still expected to strive to live a Christ-like life. There are plenty of people who work daily to take care of their families, as is also Biblical. We are expected to work, to provide for our families, to not be lazy of slothful.

A male wearing a dress every day who recognizes Jesus as Lord and does everything he can to obey the word, but struggles with his inner desire to pretend to be a woman, is not going to hell. But, I don’t imagine there’s a lot of folks, if any, who are fitting that description.

Being a Christian is as simple as recognizing Jesus as your savior and striving to live in Christ-like obedience. The first part is easy. The second part is impossible in this world. But, to strive for it is to cut ties with things that were once a part of your life that are sinful. That can be difficult for everyone.

Of course, you aren’t actually interested in any of this. You only wish to endlessly debate semantics over cross dressers and find that one area where you can say, “Ah ha! Gotcha!” But, good luck, because it’s impossible. We all know we aren’t perfect, but we try to turn from sin and obey the word. I’ve yet to meet a Christian drag queen.

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No one said anything about perfection. If you've read anything I've said over the last several pages, you know that perfection was never mentioned by me, blah blah blah.

And I know that the whole "all have sinned and fallen short" bit is a super convenient line when any hypocrisy is found. Again, I know the spiel.

But we also both know the morality in the Bible is a ****ing mess. If someone did half the things people in the Bible are commanded to do, they'd spend the rest of their life in jail and we'd all say rightfully so. The idea that you get your morality from the Bible is a nice post hoc rationalization, but if we had a way to toss you back in time 200 years, we both know you'd find your current morality pretty wildly out of place. The Bible didn't change, of course; society did.

But even if we put all of that aside, you talk about "striving to live in Christ-like obedience"?

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
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Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
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“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
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You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.

That's Jesus, as you well know.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

So mockery is not indicative of your character? Why then did you take such issue with my post about the Frankenwomen?

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

No. I just use more coarse language because it’s funny to see people get such a rise out of it.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

No, to see people here react. It isn’t like I’m referring to my cross dressing patients as Frankenwomen. I’ve not even encountered all that many in my life.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

Trannies, hermaphrodites, Frankenwomen, dickless dudes, whatever we’re calling them these days, are just an easy target when it comes to making my point. Should I pick on another group in the future to kind of even things out? I dunno, what do you think?

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

Chopping off your penis doesn’t make you a woman. But you’re welcome to try anyway.

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This is you, just in this thread.

Let's accept that you're a True Believer, brand loyal to Jesus. What part of any of this, just from this thread, is Christ-like? You seem to think these people are unbelievers riddled with sin, and so what part of you thinks they're going to be receptive to a damn thing you have to say about what you believe? Maybe you don't call them "Frankenwomen" to their face when they're your patient, but you're clearly comfortable doing it otherwise. Is that what anyone is supposed to think "Christ-like" is? You know "trannies" is derogatory, but it gets a rise out of people you disagree with so you use it. Super Christ-like stuff.

I know I'm just a guy on a message board you occasionally are cordial with, and that's fine. You don't have to reply to any of this here, and I'm not going to come after you if you don't. But there's one other thing Jesus said:

The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”


52% of all transgender and nonbinary young people in the US seriously considered killing themselves in 2020.

And here you are calling them "trannies, hermaphrodites, Frankenwomen, dickless dudes."

Maybe you want to reconsider how often you tell people you're "striving to live in Christ-like obedience" when this is what they see from you.

That's all. We can drop the rest of this.

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Originally Posted by natepro

No one said anything about perfection. If you've read anything I've said over the last several pages, you know that perfection was never mentioned by me, blah blah blah.

And I know that the whole "all have sinned and fallen short" bit is a super convenient line when any hypocrisy is found. Again, I know the spiel.

But we also both know the morality in the Bible is a ****ing mess. If someone did half the things people in the Bible are commanded to do, they'd spend the rest of their life in jail and we'd all say rightfully so. The idea that you get your morality from the Bible is a nice post hoc rationalization, but if we had a way to toss you back in time 200 years, we both know you'd find your current morality pretty wildly out of place. The Bible didn't change, of course; society did.

But even if we put all of that aside, you talk about "striving to live in Christ-like obedience"?

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
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Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
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“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
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You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.

That's Jesus, as you well know.











This is you, just in this thread.

Let's accept that you're a True Believer, brand loyal to Jesus. What part of any of this, just from this thread, is Christ-like? You seem to think these people are unbelievers riddled with sin, and so what part of you thinks they're going to be receptive to a damn thing you have to say about what you believe? Maybe you don't call them "Frankenwomen" to their face when they're your patient, but you're clearly comfortable doing it otherwise. Is that what anyone is supposed to think "Christ-like" is? You know "trannies" is derogatory, but it gets a rise out of people you disagree with so you use it. Super Christ-like stuff.

I know I'm just a guy on a message board you occasionally are cordial with, and that's fine. You don't have to reply to any of this here, and I'm not going to come after you if you don't. But there's one other thing Jesus said:

The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”


52% of all transgender and nonbinary young people in the US seriously considered killing themselves in 2020.

And here you are calling them "trannies, hermaphrodites, Frankenwomen, dickless dudes."

Maybe you want to reconsider how often you tell people you're "striving to live in Christ-like obedience" when this is what they see from you.

That's all. We can drop the rest of this.

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That’s a lot to read, bruh.

Fair point for calling me on it. I do, admittedly, get carried away with being offensive. That’s a battle I fight with myself.

The link you included is a deep discussion and isn’t just about bullying, but also depression that comes along with gender reassignment surgeries and that often the people who opt for such drastic measures to change their gender don’t find satisfaction or happiness once they’ve done it. We are likely headed for some very sobering suicide statistics when a lot of these young children who have been taught to ignore their physical gender and been tasked with deciding whether they want to be a boy or girl become old enough to suffer from the effects of the confusion and insecurities that their parents encouraged in them at such a young age.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

That’s a lot to read, bruh.

Fair point for calling me on it. I do, admittedly, get carried away with being offensive. That’s a battle I fight with myself.

The link you included is a deep discussion and isn’t just about bullying, but also depression that comes along with gender reassignment surgeries and that often the people who opt for such drastic measures to change their gender don’t find satisfaction or happiness once they’ve done it. We are likely headed for some very sobering suicide statistics when a lot of these young children who have been taught to ignore their physical gender and been tasked with deciding whether they want to be a boy or girl become old enough to suffer from the effects of the confusion and insecurities that their parents encouraged in them at such a young age.

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Thankfully, studies seem to indicate the opposite w/r/t gender reassignment surgery.

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BOSTON, April 28, 2021—A new study published today in JAMA Surgery found that gender-affirming surgery is associated with improved mental health outcomes among transgender people.

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The study, titled “Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes,” compared the psychological distress, substance use, and suicide risk of 3,559 transgender people who had undergone gender-affirming surgery with those of 16,401 transgender people who desired gender-affirming surgery but had not yet undergone any. It found that transgender people who had received one or more gender-affirming surgical procedures had a 42% reduction in the odds of experiencing past-month psychological distress, a 35% reduction in the odds of past-year tobacco smoking, and a 44% reduction in the odds of past-year suicidal ideation.

This study also found that people who received all of the gender-affirming surgeries they desired had significant reductions in the odds of every adverse mental health outcome examined, including past-year suicide attempts and past-month binge alcohol use. Furthermore, compared to people who only received some of the gender-affirming surgeries they desired, people who received all of their desired surgeries experienced even more profound mental health benefits across every outcome.

https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-s...idal-ideation/

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But among trans people who had undergone gender-affirming surgery, the longer ago their surgery, the less likely they were to suffer anxiety, depression or suicidal behavior during the study period, researchers reported in The American Journal of Psychiatry.

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In fact, they note, “The likelihood of being treated for a mood or anxiety disorder was reduced by 8 percent for each year since the last gender-affirming surgery,” for up to 10 years.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...study-n1079911

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Also, though, I'm not sure where in the link it talks about gender reassignment surgery, unless I'm just totally missing it somehow.

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Originally Posted by WES445

To be honest, I don't, very strongly, care what non-believers have to say about my faith. I will be first to admit I have a problem with some of the things in the Bible and especially how it is used, so I cherry-picked as I have with eastern religions as well to form spiritual guidance suited for myself. So it isn't arrogance, especially not ignorance which non-believers like to cast on those who have faith, or fear, of what? I just don't want to hear your bs and I don't share will you what you consider is bs on my part. Really, I think anybody who ignores the spiritual aspect of themselves is ignorant.

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Sadly, this is an unfair — if all too common — characterization of so-called non-believers. Just because I question (or simply do not believe) specific teachings of the various religious traditions (i.e., Jesus was the son of god who died for my sins) does not automatically make me one who ignores the spiritual aspect of being human.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Don't take this personally, it just my way with non-believers. No hostility meant, we each much find our own way in the way suited for ourselves. there are many paths to the divine, so who am I to say you aren't on a path.

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I certainly do not take offense.

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

And you can confirm that dboncsinmo did none of this?

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We can certainly confirm that your drooling, cross-eyed brother in arms was going out of his way to purposely catch COVID-19.