Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Originally Posted by Crovash

See above.



Certainly that.

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yeah... I posted that and then saw your edit … lol

anyway... it is going to be interesting to see what happens in November … I really think the dems are going to win the house now because of the type of candidates they are putting up in swing districts.... typical pasty white folk who reside in the middle...

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Originally Posted by Crovash

No doubt Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has made mistakes — some because of misspeaking (in particular the tendency to generalize or exaggerate), others because of misinformation, and others because she’s parroting the party line. This a fairly standard in politics, especially for a newcomer whose meteoric rise in the heinous and insatiable media limelight has been extraordinary.

In all, those are not examples of stupid. Stupid would derive from an inability to learn from those mistakes — which she may or may not be able to do over time.

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So where are they holding the Hairsplitters Convention this year?

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Originally Posted by valade16

If this is the litmus test for stupidity (not knowing 2 things and being wrong on 2 things), then you agree that Donald Trump is also stupid?

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I'm not sure if you realize this but Trump has actually accomplished things in his life. You know, like actually done "stuff." Hired people, made money , create jobs. Stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by Vinylman

yes... the repubs took down Bernie... not Hillary and her goons at the DNC... talk about a horrible hot-take

It is cute that you actually think there is a major difference between how the dems and repubs govern though...

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The Wall Street dems did it to Bernie in a different way.

I was talking bout the negative press that they are ginning up versus AOC. That mirrors the exact same tactics they did against Bernie.

DNC went after Bernie in a completely different way. Never said otherwise. But that’s also unrelated to the discussion point.

And there is a huggggge difference between the progressive wing and how they’d govern versus the republican or even the Wall Street Dem wings.




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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

I'm not sure if you realize this but Trump has actually accomplished things in his life. You know, like actually done "stuff." Hired people, made money , create jobs. Stuff like that.

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I'm not sure if you realize this but Trump started out being given a substantial financial gift from his very wealthy father. Not really impressed that someone who was handed a ton of money managed to become rich. Might as well start praising the Walton kids for their amazing business acumen too.

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Originally Posted by Vinylman

that is fine... I think Trump is a putz... doesn't mean I don't like some of his policies... no different than I would have hated Hillary but still supported some of her policies...

see that is the problem... you seem to think only one of the above two can be "bad" I see most politicians as bad with very little difference in policy other than rhetoric to feed the sheep...

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You are so up your own *** it's incredible.

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Originally Posted by valade16

I'm not sure if you realize this but Trump started out being given a substantial financial gift from his very wealthy father. Not really impressed that someone who was handed a ton of money managed to become rich. Might as well start praising the Walton kids for their amazing business acumen too.

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You're holding that against him? You wouldn't do that for your kids? Any parent would. We'll see in a few years how the road ahed is nicely paved for Chelsea Clinton

Bottom line is that Trump took what he had (or was given if that makes you feel better) and ran with it. He's had many successes that he has had on his own. I'll grant you that doors were opened easier for him, but he could have just as easily have failed. He's a savvy business man that gets things done. You can't hold that fact against him.

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Originally Posted by valade16

I'm not sure if you realize this but Trump started out being given a substantial financial gift from his very wealthy father. Not really impressed that someone who was handed a ton of money managed to become rich. Might as well start praising the Walton kids for their amazing business acumen too.

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to be fair, many who inherit money or come into money rapidly eff it up completely. Forget Trump, I mean in general.

six bankruptcies and no American banks willing to loan money to him, a foreign bank with heavy Russian ties being the only one willing to give him money but yeah he is a model of a successful american businessman.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

You're holding that against him? You wouldn't do that for your kids? Any parent would. We'll see in a few years how the road ahed is nicely paved for Chelsea Clinton

Bottom line is that Trump took what he had (or was given if that makes you feel better) and ran with it. He's had many successes that he has had on his own. I'll grant you that doors were opened easier for him, but he could have just as easily have failed. He's a savvy business man that gets things done. You can't hold that fact against him.

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I'm not holding it against him but I'm not giving him credit for it either (as you seem to want to do).

He did fail. Luckily he was born rich and was given a lot of wealth so his ineptitude didn't really matter most of the time.


Besides, you are falsely equating accomplishments with intelligence. You claimed she was stupid. I asked you if based on your criteria you think Trump is stupid and your response was to say that he accomplished a lot. That wasn't an answer. Do you think Donald Trump is stupid or not?

Also, if you do want to equate accomplishments with intelligence, Cortez is one of the youngest people in US history to be nominated for Congress. If elected she will be the youngest woman ever elected to the US House. She graduated Cum Laude from Boston University, and unlike Trump, she didn't need Daddy's wealth and fame to get in. She started a publishing firm.


So I'm not sure what your point is other than you disagree with her policies therefore she's stupid.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

to be fair, many who inherit money or come into money rapidly eff it up completely. Forget Trump, I mean in general.

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Many? I'm going to say with complete confidence more people who inherit large sums of money manage to stay wealthy than those who go into the poorhouse.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

to be fair, many who inherit money or come into money rapidly eff it up completely. Forget Trump, I mean in general.

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Not that I am trying to shoot down your point, but I wonder, with his financial failures, would he be as rich as he is without Deutsche Bank support.

Biggest dumb move on his part. Building two casino in the same city. It like opening two starbucks on the same block.

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Originally Posted by DeW-Star

The Wall Street dems did it to Bernie in a different way.

I was talking bout the negative press that they are ginning up versus AOC. That mirrors the exact same tactics they did against Bernie.

DNC went after Bernie in a completely different way. Never said otherwise. But that’s also unrelated to the discussion point.

And there is a huggggge difference between the progressive wing and how they’d govern versus the republican or even the Wall Street Dem wings.




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ummm … there are many in the DNC deriding her … you just don't want to see it.

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Originally Posted by Walter_White

You are so up your own *** it's incredible.

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another compliment from the sites #1 partisan hack... well done

nuance is always lost on the emotional... there is no shame... there are a lot of other 16 year old girls who think like you

Nvm