Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

This oughta drive Sluggo absolutely crazy:

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Let's see now…

Article was about numbers of people breaking the law and a sitting member of congress encouraging them.

So what is the bigger point that was missed or ignored.

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The system that let them down in the first place. Context matters.


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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

The system that let them down in the first place. Context matters.


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This response means one of two things.

1. You're yanking my crank by posting a BS response.
or
2. It is an honest response and you actually believe what you said.

I'll assume #2 is your honest response in which case you are a complete fool.

The NYC subway system serves several million people a day. How come those millions weren't let down by that same "system?"

The city of NYC owns and operates the transit system for the good of the general public. The fare charged by the operating authority (like every transit operating authority in the US) does not cover the system's operating expenses. It operates at a loss in order to keep fares low so that the general public can use the transit system. Shortfalls are made up by taxes, federal funding and other means. And, by the way, the rich and well-to-do that actually pay taxes rarely use mass transit.

Still, apparently, that's not enough for these losers you see jumping the turnstiles. The one's you defend because the "system" (whatever the "system" is) has "let them down."

You're one of those people (and they have you in every city) that rushes to defend bad behavior on the part those low-life citizens that bring down the quality of life for all around them. You're the guy that sees graffiti as "urban art" (unless they do it to your property…then it's vandalism.). When you wonder why people abandon cities for the suburbs…look in the mirror,

Where do people like you draw the line? If someone can't afford transportation, can they take your car (or maybe, in your case, your skateboard)? Is that Ok. If they're hungry, can they walk into a restaurant, eat up and not pay. Is that OK.

Maybe instead of blaming "the system" these losers should make an attempt to operate within "the system." It's not that hard. All it takes is a little effort. Well maybe for them, it is that hard. But there is always you around to pick them up and give them whatever it is that they need…especially excuses.

Buccaneers are at home today. I don't have a ticket but I'll try jumping the turnstile and see what happens. After all it's a publicly financed stadium…I have a right to get in.

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Originally Posted by ewing

I started hanging out with a fair jumper and immediately got into crack

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Crack is pretty much your standard fair jumper drug of choice.

Always smoke a little crack before you go around terrorizing the city by jumping turnstile after turnstile

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Here come the hairsplitters with their ridiculous comparisons.

Try to follow……

You don't wear (or where as you say) a seatbelt and wrap your car around a tree and kill yourself. Tat has no effect on the cost or quality of life of the society in which you move. No one really cares if you kill yourself.

Not paying transit fare does. It also leads to the habitual breaking of laws that changes our overall quality of life.

Hundreds of people getting killed because they are too dumb to wear seatbelt doesn't affect anyone (unless they hit someone else). Hundreds of people jumping fare barriers creates a financial shortfall that must be ode up elsewhere…probably by fare increases.

Are you getting this yet?

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Wait do you really think someone getting in a car wreck and dying because they don’t wear a seatbelt affects society? I guess the time that the ambulance spends trying to rescue the person has no cost. The space they might take up unnecessarily in a hospital has no cost. I guess the unnecessary use of a coroner’s time has no cost. I guess any social welfare programs used by the victim’s family because they just lost a member of the family unnecessarily has no cost.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Wait do you really think someone getting in a car wreck and dying because they don’t wear a seatbelt affects society? I guess the time that the ambulance spends trying to rescue the person has no cost. The space they might take up unnecessarily in a hospital has no cost. I guess the unnecessary use of a coroner’s time has no cost. I guess any social welfare programs used by the victim’s family because they just lost a member of the family unnecessarily has no cost.

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Much less the effect on everyone’s insurance premiums.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Much less the effect on everyone’s insurance premiums.

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This is true. But I’m just focusing on the specific public costs i.e. incurred government costs.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

This is true. But I’m just focusing on the specific public costs i.e. incurred government costs.

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Yup. I am just trying to prepare Sluggo for when we institute “Medicare for All” and his taxes go up to pay for the whole shabang.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Wait do you really think someone getting in a car wreck and dying because they don’t wear a seatbelt affects society? I guess the time that the ambulance spends trying to rescue the person has no cost. The space they might take up unnecessarily in a hospital has no cost. I guess the unnecessary use of a coroner’s time has no cost. I guess any social welfare programs used by the victim’s family because they just lost a member of the family unnecessarily has no cost.

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eeh!

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Yup. I am just trying to prepare Sluggo for when we institute “Medicare for All” and his taxes go up to pay for the whole shabang.

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Plus the gas for the ambulance.

Got people using ambulances as taxis. They be telling the driver, instead of the hospital just take me to Figueroa and 43rd.

If nyc wants to make their public transit free, then more power to them. But encouraging people to hop the gates and steal is sad AF.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

This response means one of two things.

1. You're yanking my crank by posting a BS response.
or
2. It is an honest response and you actually believe what you said.

I'll assume #2 is your honest response in which case you are a complete fool.

The NYC subway system serves several million people a day. How come those millions weren't let down by that same "system?"

The city of NYC owns and operates the transit system for the good of the general public. The fare charged by the operating authority (like every transit operating authority in the US) does not cover the system's operating expenses. It operates at a loss in order to keep fares low so that the general public can use the transit system. Shortfalls are made up by taxes, federal funding and other means. And, by the way, the rich and well-to-do that actually pay taxes rarely use mass transit.

Still, apparently, that's not enough for these losers you see jumping the turnstiles. The one's you defend because the "system" (whatever the "system" is) has "let them down."

You're one of those people (and they have you in every city) that rushes to defend bad behavior on the part those low-life citizens that bring down the quality of life for all around them. You're the guy that sees graffiti as "urban art" (unless they do it to your property…then it's vandalism.). When you wonder why people abandon cities for the suburbs…look in the mirror,

Where do people like you draw the line? If someone can't afford transportation, can they take your car (or maybe, in your case, your skateboard)? Is that Ok. If they're hungry, can they walk into a restaurant, eat up and not pay. Is that OK.

Maybe instead of blaming "the system" these losers should make an attempt to operate within "the system." It's not that hard. All it takes is a little effort. Well maybe for them, it is that hard. But there is always you around to pick them up and give them whatever it is that they need…especially excuses.

Buccaneers are at home today. I don't have a ticket but I'll try jumping the turnstile and see what happens. After all it's a publicly financed stadium…I have a right to get in.

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So....you still don’t get it.

Ok.

“God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in his shoes
'Cause then you really might know what it's like to sing the blues”


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Maybe you can just tell us the point that you are trying to make?

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Originally Posted by thomass

If nyc wants to make their public transit free, then more power to them. But encouraging people to hop the gates and steal is sad AF.

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It's the dumbest thing ever because that's how you get people who aren't actually using it for transportation to make things worse for everyone else. You want piss, ****, gangs, and panhandlers on the subway make it free, lol.

Your disdain for poor people is fascinating.