Let me have cake and eat it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
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Let me have cake and eat it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
So long as the poor don't get cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Marie Antoinette said “Let them eat cake.” And you know what happened to her.
I’d find hard to believe that anyone would hate poor people. That’s more of a straw man argument that’s been around for a long time. Remember the pushing the granny over the cliff ad
Perhaps “complete disregard” is more fitting than hate?Quote:
Originally Posted by thomass
I think "disdain" is perfectly apt for a lot of people.
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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Ok, still not a fair argument imo because then you could say that about any economic policy that you deem more conservative than you’d like. And obviously that shouldn’t be the case.
Who hates poor people?Quote:
Originally Posted by thomass
I certainly don't.
I've tried to explain this several times. I'll try again.
In this area, there are three types of people……
People that actually need help. No problem helping them or extending time, assets , money etc. I do it all the time.
People that want help. Not so sympathetic here.These people need to prove they are making some kind of effort. Many do and eventually improve themselves. Not all
People that expect help. Totally unsympathetic here. Many able bodied people sit around, fill out forms, know all the angles, the ins and outs and get all kinds of help they wouldn't really need if they would put forth some sort of effort. They will be like this for a good portion of their lives…and complain all the way. There are more of these than you realize (or would readily admit to). I could not care what happens to them.
What % of the poor do you think fit into each category?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Your disdain for the poor saps that work for a living and pay for it all is fascinating.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
That and AOC's brilliant creative ideas that include making everything completely paid for by the government.
I was thinking more along the lines of how most people want what’s best for society. To suggest non poor people don’t care about poor people because they support or don’t support whatever policy has always been a straw man argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
You tell me.
I do know, judging by what I have seen, that many, many of what we consider indigent keep making bad decisions that perpetuates the problem. Many perpetuate it to the point of being hopeless. Too many children (avoidable), drug abuse (personal choice), lack of education (avoidable, requires a certain amount of effort.) Crime (personal choice, poor decision)
I always come back to the process of avoiding poverty……
Graduate High School
Get a Job
Get Married
Have Children
Stay with your family.
Many believe that if youy do this in this sequence that your chances of becoming impoverished is reduced drastically
I agree with this formula and it is not that hard.
Sorry. I can't follow this at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by thomass
Ewwww there's a a lot holes in this agrumentQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
None. You do the first four things a week out of high school and stay with your wealthy family after that. Works every timeQuote:
Originally Posted by ewing