Yep. Awesome.
Do you see something wrong with people wanting to maintain their property value?
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I already have this as part of the taxes that I pay. Weekly pickup and 2 or 3 special/extra pickups (I don't remember which but I can look it up). HOA are just giving up way too much control for me. I don't like that and I won't do it. If other people want to, such as yourself, I'm not suggesting they be stopped from doing so.
RE: HOAs……It's all about perspective.
Close relative of mine told me I was nuts to move into a development with HOA fees. Yet he lives in an area north of NYC where his Real Estate taxes are $15,000 a year on a decent home (Large but not spectacular). And with no amenities. My HOA fee is $750 year (we get very little for it, small pool, small playground and general areas mowed) and RE taxes are $2,500.
He's happy, I'm happy. To each his own.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a nice subdivision in FL without an HOA.. Probably like that in other places.
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Interesting side story to HOAs……I spent the last several months of the year looking for a house. One story came up from a RE broker friend of mine about a BLM flag. Signs and flags (other than American Flags) are not allowed in most HOAs other than a For Sale sign at anytime and political signs during election seasons. So a case was made for the BLM flag being a political sign. Once the election is over, the signs are to be removed yet the BLM flag guy did not remove his and the HOA is (supposedly) afraid to approach the subject.
Lol
Hey I won't tell anyone they can't move into a property with an HOA. If people want to do that, it's on them. But if I see there is one in a house I'm considering, then it's immediately off the list. Doesn't matter if it checks every other backs. It's an entire dealbreaker for me.
To each his own. I'd weigh all the facts, costs, etc.and see how I feel. (Like I do on everything……weigh the facts costs etc. before I decide.)
I'd weigh RE taxes far more than HOA fees. One guy I know down here has a condo on the beach. 1250 square feet. Uses it for a weekend place and vacations (about 1/2 hour from where he lives). Taxes are 8,000 a year and a condo fee of $600 per month. For a 1 bedroom. But him and the wife like to have breakfast while looking at the Gulf and dinner with spectacular sunsets.
In my mind you have to look at the entire package.
It's far more than just the money that you pay in the fees. It's the lack of control. You want to do X on your own property, they add a new layer of bureaucracy that is entirely unnecessary. And most people that go there are control freaks from my personal experience.
Bolded……only if this relates to the board. Homeowner not so much.
I'v been in two developments with HOAs and have not come across anything unreasonable.
Selection from about 20 different paint colors for the exterior
no labeled trucks in the driveway
no abandoned cars
no parking on the grass
trash cans out of sight
utility sheds out pf sight
no boats on the driveway
Can't say any of that makes the property undesirable and would be a deal breaker. As far as the bureaucracy…it is usually little more than an email and you get approval in about a month. I buy into the community not the HOA. Most attractive communities have HOAs.
I mentioned the Disney town of Celebration with rules about curtains and window treatments. There was also somewhere in the Miami area where you were no allowed to leave your garage door open…even when you were cutting the grass.These seemed a little ridiculous.
You must be a pretty short guy as simply points seem to go over your head.
Here's the simple point………
someone criticizes spending $$$ on HOA fees that give you a return for that $$$ (parks, pools, landscaping, clubhouse etc) yet readily accepts paying an exorbitant amount of RE taxes that give you essentially nothing that anoune else doesn't get for a fraction less (roads, sewers, police, fire, teachers).
I spend under $3k in RE taxes and HOA fees while this other person spends 5X as much……but he can paint his house in stripes and polka dots and I can't.
To each his own.
I get the dislike for HOAs (and I would never join a board) but I don't get the pure hatred some seem to have. You see a house and a community you would like to live in, you calculate all the costs to live there and you make a choice. Pretty simple if you ask me. I just recently went thru the whole house hunting routine, saw a great house in a great community but declined to bid due to high HOA fees……monthly cost was too high for me (HOA was almost $400 per month.)
Do whatever you want.
Still waiting for an apology for lying about what I said.