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06-14-2015, 10:19 AM
tnewkirk

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Originally Posted by Thumper 88

You can't really think he was back to where he was before illness?

While he's stand up was awful he was still improving his skills as seen on the Carwin chock out

yea he was good on the ground... what happened when carwin landed a couple shots? brock turtled up and ran for the hills.
06-14-2015, 10:33 AM
SLY WILLIAMS

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Originally Posted by McFlurry

He was clearly not the same fighter when he came back but he was still only a one trick pony. You could compare him to Tito really. Good takedowns, great cardio, good gnp. Although Brocks takedowns were amazing comparatively and Titos standup was better :laugh2: you get my point though. At the end of the day, he had some of the best takedowns we have seen and he could go for hours, at the beginning, but the Cain's and JDS's of the world would have gotten around that I believe.

He would have been a guy that would win 2 or 3, lose 1, maybe get another streak together but he would always hover outside the top 5. I do agree if he was able to start much earlier he could have developed his standup and made it somewhat acceptable and been a guy who could have really dominated the sport. Although I would have loved to see him be able to stay around longer, I am not sure his career would have been much different at this point, healthy or not.

I agree Brock's takedowns were way ahead of his standup. The difference is before his injury Brock had power so if he did hit a guy while standing that guy felt it and sometimes went down. After that illness he had so little left via standup or takedowns. The take down he landed on Carwin was only after Carwin had totally gassed out. Actually both guys were gassed out. Before that take down both Carwin and Brock looked like fighters after 15 rounds. I'm not sure what would have been if he never got sick but I do know he was never the same after the illness.
06-14-2015, 10:45 AM
tnewkirk

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Originally Posted by SLY WILLIAMS

I agree Brock's takedowns were way ahead of his standup. The difference is before his injury Brock had power so if he did hit a guy while standing that guy felt it and sometimes went down. After that illness he had so little left via standup or takedowns. The take down he landed on Carwin was only after Carwin had totally gassed out. Actually both guys were gassed out. Before that take down both Carwin and Brock looked like fighters after 15 rounds. I'm not sure what would have been if he never got sick but I do know he was never the same after the illness.

you talking about him knocking out randy couture? a guy who literately weighs 60-70lbs less than him? and it wasnt a one punch ko lol, it was a bunch of punches.
06-15-2015, 08:23 AM
Thumper 88

Did anyone catch the presser after UFC 188? Did Dana say if JDS gets the next shot?
06-19-2015, 04:02 PM
Knockturnal

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Originally Posted by Thumper 88

Did anyone catch the presser after UFC 188? Did Dana say if JDS gets the next shot?

According to Dana, is either going to be Arlovski or Miocic.

In other news:

Visa issues force changes at UFC Fight Night 70, UFC 190

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The United States visa system has faced technical issues recently, and that affected the UFC’s next card in the country.

The UFC Fight Night 70 card, scheduled for June 27, was moved from Sao Paulo to Hollywood, but several Brazilian fighters won’t be able to make it to Florida due to visa issues, including the four TUF Brazil 4 finalists.

The reality show finals will be moved to UFC 190, set for Aug. 1 in Rio de Janeiro. In the bantamweight division, Dileno Lopes faces the winner of Reginaldo Vieira vs. Bruno Rodrigues, while Glaico Franca meets the winner of Nazareno Malegarie vs. Fernando Bruno for the lightweight crown.

Sources close to the situation confirmed the change to MMAFighting.com following a report by Combate.

According to the report, Erick Silva vs. Rick Story was pulled from the UFC Fight Night 70, and Antonio Carlos Jr. now co-headlines the event against Eddie Gordon. Marcos Rogerio de Lima vs. Nikita Krylov could also be cancelled due to visa issues.

The UFC has reportedly added a pair of bouts to the Hollywood card. Coming off a big win over K.J. Noons, Alex Oliveira takes on 6-0 newcomer Joe Merritt. In the lightweight division, Leandro Silva meets Lewis Gonzalez.

Check the complete UFC Fight Night 70 and UFC 190 fight cards below.

UFC Fight Night 70 in Hollywood, Fla., on June 27:

Lyoto Machida vs. Yoel Romero
Antonio Carlos Jr. vs. Eddie Gordon
Lorenz Larkin vs. Santiago Ponzinibbio
Alex Oliveira vs. Joe Merritt
Leandro Silva vs. Lewis Gonzalez
Thiago Santos vs. Steve Bosse
Rani Yahya vs. Masanori Kanehara
Hacran Dias vs. Levan Makashvili
Viscardi Andrade vs. Andreas Stahl

UFC 190 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on Aug. 1:

Ronda Rousey vs. Bethe Correia
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Mauricio Rua
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Stefan Struve
TUF Brazil 4 lightweight final
TUF Brazil 4 bantamweight final
Antonio Silva vs. Soa Palelei
Rafael Cavalcante vs. Patrick Cummins
Vitor Miranda vs. Clint Hester
Demian Maia vs. Neil Magny
Hugo Viana vs. Guido Cannetti
Claudia Gadelha vs. Jessica Aguilar
Iuri Alcantara vs. Leandro Issa

That's a tough break for the UFC, that UFC FN 70 card is one Machida injury away from potentially getting canceled.
06-19-2015, 04:18 PM
Thumper 88

Lyoto will carry they card..
06-19-2015, 04:19 PM
Thumper 88

I just heard since jds is injured they will do a Cain rematch in California.
06-20-2015, 08:21 PM
McFlurry

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Originally Posted by Thumper 88

I just heard since jds is injured they will do a Cain rematch in California.

It should be Andrei and then Stipe, I dont want to see a Cain rematch. It would make sense to have either one of those guys fight for the title and the other fight Cain.
06-23-2015, 10:59 AM
Thumper 88

Fabricio Werdum’s coach believes Cain Velasquez deserves immediate rematch http://t.co/xoGjA643l2

Well this honestly surprised me
06-23-2015, 03:52 PM
Knockturnal

Hathaway is out of his fight vs Gunnar Nelson at UFC 189, but the bigger news is that Aldo injured his ribs and his fight vs McGregor is in jeopardy.

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Originally Posted by Luke Thomas @SBNLukeThomas

According to @AnaHissa (a very good reporter), Jose Aldo has suffered a fractured rib in training. No word on what this means for the fight.

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06-23-2015, 03:59 PM
McFlurry

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Originally Posted by Knockturnal

Hathaway is out of his fight vs Gunnar Nelson at UFC 189, but the bigger news is that Aldo injured his ribs and his fight vs McGregor is in jeopardy.

Source

Conor is going to have a hayday with this if he does have to push the fight :laugh2:
06-23-2015, 05:22 PM
Thumper 88

Globo (Brazilian TV UFC partner) reporting Aldo suffered a rib injury & his status is TBD. http://t.co/140oPaxMNv. No confirm on our end yet
06-23-2015, 05:25 PM
Thumper 88

Here's the facts: Aldo did get hurt (first reported by @anahissa), he has also not pulled out of the fight. As of right now, it's still on.
06-23-2015, 05:28 PM
Thumper 88

Dana white "Relax everyone"
06-23-2015, 07:43 PM
Thumper 88

Nova Uniao coach Jair Lourenco on TV show Revista Combate: rib injury is complicated, usually takes a month to heal, but Aldo wants to fight

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