NBA Draft/Trades/Free Agency

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Originally Posted by HowFit

Every lottery teams and every fans wanted number 1 pick (Williamson) and Pels got their wish. Maybe the Hawks will get their turn next season...


Reddish
Wiseman
Collins
Young
Hayes

Huerter
Washington
Cameron
Bembry
Len
Spellman
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Typo.... James Weismann, John Collins, and Hayes wouldn’t all start together.
Pg Young
SG Huerter or Reddish
SF Reddish or ???
PF Collins
C Weismann

Bench hopefully
Beverly
Huerter or. ????
Bembry
Doumbouya
Len

Spellman
Clark
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I’m not convinced Huerter has to be a starter. Don’t get me wrong, I think he has the talent. But depending on how the team is constructed, he might be a better fit for a super sub, and I believe Cam can function highly at the two or three.....

What I like of Reddish. While he can play 1-4 positions, I would prefer 2-4. Great having that flexibility. Alongside with Trae would be excellent. Huerter surprises many this season. He's got more than just shooting behind the arc. The Hawks did well picking him. Now would I say would I want him as a starter? It's if he keeps improving what he proved that would be the answer to that but it's great having a guy like him as your 6th man aka Crawford.

You don't like my 2 PFs and a C idea? I was only thinking of having big guys on court with Trae lol. Just a scenario is all.

I don't know man. A lot of rumors floating around. Take a bad contact off Pels for their 21st pick? That's a thought. Taking on Love and his heavy contract? What you think of Randle who's a FA? Too short? His style of play? So much looks to be waiting to happen in the NBA in next 20 hours. If I wake up hearing the Hawks got the number 1 pick, I'm gonna have to pinch myself hard so many times to make sure I'm not still dreaming. Yeah, sarcastic there but it's like big things waiting to happen and if that's the case, there's a good chance the Hawks would be involved...

I'm lost on our 41st (was it?). I thought it was a little too soon to give that up for a later 2nd pick when it could been useful with all kinds of changes that can happen in the next less than a day...

Hunter and Reddish. Nice move!

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Originally Posted by HowFit

Hunter and Reddish. Nice move!

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I can't say enough with how much the Hawks have done. I like the Spellman for Jones. Spellman was letting his bodyweight go out of control. May have trimmed back down but what about later years? Anyway, like Damian Jones. Just turned 24. Bruno looks legit and will add energy to the clubhouse. Reddish is the one I'm most excited about. After playing at Duke hurt and now had surgery, I'm hoping, and believe, he will be the player everyone projected him to be in his freshman year at Duke. Jabari Parker could revive his career here in Atlanta. Another young guy with potential. If stays healthy, would be a plus as a scorer off the bench. I just like the depth. In future look for a strong backup for Trae. Let these guys develop and boy they will be FUN to watch!!!

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Originally Posted by HowFit

I can't say enough with how much the Hawks have done. I like the Spellman for Jones. Spellman was letting his bodyweight go out of control. May have trimmed back down but what about later years? Anyway, like Damian Jones. Just turned 24. Bruno looks legit and will add energy to the clubhouse. Reddish is the one I'm most excited about. After playing at Duke hurt and now had surgery, I'm hoping, and believe, he will be the player everyone projected him to be in his freshman year at Duke. Jabari Parker could revive his career here in Atlanta. Another young guy with potential. If stays healthy, would be a plus as a scorer off the bench. I just like the depth. In future look for a strong backup for Trae. Let these guys develop and boy they will be FUN to watch!!!

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I agree.... Reddish was my guy from the start, so I’m most excited about him. Parker could revive his a career putting up points off the bench and become a very nice trade asset come deadline time. I think Crabtree and Chandler to a lesser extent, could also become trade assets if they play well.

Bruno should be a hard nosed high energy player and I do see some Leonard in Hunter as well as a little Draymond, with a dash of a less athletic Shawn Marion.

In a perfect world...... the Nets make the 8th seed, we miss the playoffs, and land the number one pick. Chandler, Crabtree, and Parker are traded for future first round picks. We are well positioned for the future..... I also like Coach, don’t love him, but I do like him.

Reddish will start tonight!

How about some Trae love? He's making Donic look like an avg player. Just 2 games in but very promising. Reddish still behind after late start preseason. He'll get there. Hunter looks great. Pierce? He's the perfect fit for this squad. I just love where we're heading!

It's funny, been telling my buddies watch Parker start playing what fans expected out of him and we trade him for future picks. I'm 50/50 On the Hawks making playoffs. Hunter filling in smoothly and Fernandez may jump in front of Alex for the starting role. I predict Reddish be the one to watch bc I think he keep getting better finding his zone as season progresses....

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Originally Posted by HowFit

How about some Trae love? He's making Donic look like an avg player. Just 2 games in but very promising. Reddish still behind after late start preseason. He'll get there. Hunter looks great. Pierce? He's the perfect fit for this squad. I just love where we're heading!

It's funny, been telling my buddies watch Parker start playing what fans expected out of him and we trade him for future picks. I'm 50/50 On the Hawks making playoffs. Hunter filling in smoothly and Fernandez may jump in front of Alex for the starting role. I predict Reddish be the one to watch bc I think he keep getting better finding his zone as season progresses....

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Reddish has been better than most rookies defensively. Offensively he’s not off to a great start. I think he’ll find his shot eventually. I did like the way he looked off the few pick n rolls he ran as the ball handler.

Bruno has been excellent! However O do temper my expectations, as that excellence has come against back ups. He’s been better than Alex, but I don’t think Alex gets a quick hook barring injury. However if he keeps out playing Alex a switch could be made, just not under ten games in.

Important to remember through the good and the bad, we’ve only played 3 games.

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Originally Posted by HowFit

How about some Trae love? He's making Donic look like an avg player. Just 2 games in but very promising. Reddish still behind after late start preseason. He'll get there. Hunter looks great. Pierce? He's the perfect fit for this squad. I just love where we're heading!

It's funny, been telling my buddies watch Parker start playing what fans expected out of him and we trade him for future picks. I'm 50/50 On the Hawks making playoffs. Hunter filling in smoothly and Fernandez may jump in front of Alex for the starting role. I predict Reddish be the one to watch bc I think he keep getting better finding his zone as season progresses....

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LOL Trae is great but you guys are delusional and in factual denial...

https://twitter.com/NBA_Math/status/1199008595204927488

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Originally Posted by zookman65

LOL Trae is great but you guys are delusional and in factual denial...

https://twitter.com/NBA_Math/status/1199008595204927488

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I stated that with 2 games in, homie. Gee, DH can avg 30pts/gm 2 games in but it's ok to bring up one's 2 games stats to start season and it was tremendous effort by Trae. Now, no way Trae producing higher level as Doncic. Good for him as its good to see a rising star. You can say I'm delusional just stating Trae is better just 2 games in, but it was a fact. His TOs what's hurting him but the 27.5pts/gm and 8.4 assists/gm really isn't too shabby...

Reddish with his best game of the season. 25 pts and 6 rebounds. This is the type of player I think he can become. I hope they really break down the film with him on why he produced tonight and how he can continue this type of production. When we add Wiseman in the draft and a couple of veterans, we will be ready to start Winning!

The win in SA was huge for confidence. Great game from Young, Reddish, Collins and Huerter. If the Hawks can add Wiseman in the draft, I think we’d be an incredible mix of athleticism, length, and shot making ability. I’ve been in the Reddish wagon for a long time, I’m finally seeing company on that wagon. Not on this site though.

go hawks

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Originally Posted by SB75

The win in SA was huge for confidence. Great game from Young, Reddish, Collins and Huerter. If the Hawks can add Wiseman in the draft, I think we’d be an incredible mix of athleticism, length, and shot making ability. I’ve been in the Reddish wagon for a long time, I’m finally seeing company on that wagon. Not on this site though.

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His numbers has been improving while month of January has been his best yet. Keeps improving. His D been great all season.


I see we have been linked to several bigs with deadline coming up. Capela, Dummonds, Bamba and Dredmon (why???). While Drumond and Capela would boost our D, they don’t fit our O scheme. Bamba only one that does. If you look at his numbers and his limited (thanks to Vureric) minutes his actually playing well. He’s younger and would cost less. He would be our best bet if we had to make a move...

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Reddish with his best game of the season. 25 pts and 6 rebounds. This is the type of player I think he can become. I hope they really break down the film with him on why he produced tonight and how he can continue this type of production. When we add Wiseman in the draft and a couple of veterans, we will be ready to start Winning!

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Would be great if Reddish could avg 25pts/gm. Trae is eating points from Collins lol. That would make a deadly trio. You mentioned Wiseman as one we pickup in next draft, what about Edwards? This is coming from.a Tech fan. He looks like a legit piece to play alongside with Trae. We can find a big via off-season trade, if not by deadline.

It's been rumored that the hawks would like to acquire a Center and may trade Collins to get one. I'm a Bucks fan, so I have no stake in this proposal, but wanted to run it by some hawks fans to see what you think.

Hawks offer John Collins, Deandre Hunter and Chandler Parsons for Joel Embiid and Mike Scott. Sixers need to trade either Embiid or Simmons because they don't fit together. You get perhaps the best Center in the league.

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Originally Posted by HacksawButch

It's been rumored that the hawks would like to acquire a Center and may trade Collins to get one. I'm a Bucks fan, so I have no stake in this proposal, but wanted to run it by some hawks fans to see what you think.

Hawks offer John Collins, Deandre Hunter and Chandler Parsons for Joel Embiid and Mike Scott. Sixers need to trade either Embiid or Simmons because they don't fit together. You get perhaps the best Center in the league.

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If it was me, no way. I like Joel a lot but not for John. I don’t see why the Hawks would entertain the idea of trading Collins. He fits our system well. Just 22 who only gonna get better. Outside of Zion and Giannis, I wouldn’t trade John for any other young guys in the league. that’s how much I value him as Hawks going forward. Hey, by no means do I believe we could get Zion or Giannis by trading John. Just saying I don’t see any point of moving him.

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Originally Posted by HowFit

Would be great if Reddish could avg 25pts/gm. Trae is eating points from Collins lol. That would make a deadly trio. You mentioned Wiseman as one we pickup in next draft, what about Edwards? This is coming from.a Tech fan. He looks like a legit piece to play alongside with Trae. We can find a big via off-season trade, if not by deadline.

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I see a higher ceiling with Weismann. By no means am I down in Edwards, he’d be my second pick.

I would agree Weismann is also the Bigger risk, however drafting that high in the draft, you go with talent! And in this case talent fits with need. Even with Capela now a Hawk, there will be back up min at center and the 4 for Weismann. I don’t see a lot of min on the wing for Edwards with Huerter , Reddish, Hunter and a vet. I like Edwards, but I wouldn’t give him min over Reddish or Hunter, so his fit becomes tricky. So if we draft Edwards, I’d think we need a secondary move.

Good move getting Capela. He’ll improve the defense and give any center we draft, time to develop.

Got 2 more 2nd rd picks...

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Originally Posted by SB75

Good move getting Capela. He’ll improve the defense and give any center we draft, time to develop.

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So let me ask, the Hawks now have Capela, would you still go after Wiseman?

Young
Collins
Capela
Hunter
Reddish
Huerter


Very strong core moving forward...

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Originally Posted by HowFit

So let me ask, the Hawks now have Capela, would you still go after Wiseman?

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Absolutely! Weismann is more talented and it takes the pressure off without him having to be a big contributor from day one.

I really like our roster! However Trae and perhaps Cam are the only players that I would pass on a player that has more upside. And Cam plays the two or three so it’s likely just Trae. We now have a lot of young talent, however none of that talent is good enough save Trae to pass on a more talented player.

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Originally Posted by HowFit

Young
Collins
Capela
Hunter
Reddish
Huerter


Very strong core moving forward...

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So much so I think you could take more high risk upside picks going forward with positional needs rather than BPA.

Seems to have backfired for OKC and Sixers over the years, so like the way ATL and DAL are building around their style/strengths.

Think ATL are still looking for that skilled big body. Maybe Georges Niang or a proxy. A Jokic type from Europe possibly.

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Originally Posted by EricD99

So much so I think you could take more high risk upside picks going forward with positional needs rather than BPA.

Seems to have backfired for OKC and Sixers over the years, so like the way ATL and DAL are building around their style/strengths.

Think ATL are still looking for that skilled big body. Maybe Georges Niang or a proxy. A Jokic type from Europe possibly.

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I think they both line up if the Hawks land #1. Weismann is big, athletic, plays D and hits 3’s. He’s a bigger, more athletic, better, John Collins. From the highlight videos he’s A weird combination of David, Robinson, Kevin Garnet, and Anthony Davis, according to perennial hater Paul Pierce. Paul went on to say the GM that passes on him won’t be a GM for long. Paul never gives complements to young players, so that means something.

To be honest while I think he has a high floor and the most upside, he is also the player that may just stay at his high floor. I can’t measure his desire, however the school thing is a question mark. While it was better for the NCAA for him just to walk away and not make it ugly, his team was willing to fight with and for him. So where was the desire to fight for his eligibility? That’s the question I have of him.

He’s still my pick if available. He also plays the one position that we do not have an offensive weapon at. I like Capela and would like to see Weismann play one year behind him. But I do not think Capela can be a consistent offensive threat, nor do I think he or Collins will ever play in all 82. Capela has played in 70+ games twice in his career and John once. So reasonably we can expect him to start at least 15-20 games his rookie season.

In closing we still have a need, he has the most upside, and the most talent. He’s my guy.

We have a lot going for us right now. While both Young and Collins been getting the spotlight, I really like what I'm seeing in Reddish and Hunter. Both look very promising especially Reddish as of late (thanks to Carter). I see a bright future with what we have now and adding another piece or two is just bonus! While Tree been very exciting to watch, I've been thrilled by the improvements of Reddish that I see a 20+/6/4 player in him with good D.

My question for you, SB75, what are your thoughts on finding the right SG to play alongside with Tree? Man, if we got lucky to get Wiseman I would be thrilled to sign Derozan...


Collins
Wiseman
Reddish
Young
Derozan

Hunter
Huerter
Capela (2 more yrs I believe)
Goodwin
Fernando
Bembry
Deep shooter (2nd rd pick)

Watching mock drafts on YouTube for the Atlanta Hawks and every time I have watched the Hawks in the mock drafts they would always end up drafting either LaMelo Ball or Tyrese Haliburton...honestly I would say Haliburton is more of a fit for the Hawks especially playing next to Trae Young, John Collins, Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, Cam Reddish, etc.

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Originally Posted by HowFit

We have a lot going for us right now. While both Young and Collins been getting the spotlight, I really like what I'm seeing in Reddish and Hunter. Both look very promising especially Reddish as of late (thanks to Carter). I see a bright future with what we have now and adding another piece or two is just bonus! While Tree been very exciting to watch, I've been thrilled by the improvements of Reddish that I see a 20+/6/4 player in him with good D.

My question for you, SB75, what are your thoughts on finding the right SG to play alongside with Tree? Man, if we got lucky to get Wiseman I would be thrilled to sign Derozan...


Collins
Wiseman
Reddish
Young
Derozan

Hunter
Huerter
Capela (2 more yrs I believe)
Goodwin
Fernando
Bembry
Deep shooter (2nd rd pick)

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I think as of today Cam is a two/ three able to play either, and Hunter is a three. So as of today, I think it’s Cam. While I do think as his body matures he may become more of a three, so the Hawks may have to look at that down the road,

I don’t see the fit right now with DeMar. He’s an exceptional player, so I wouldn’t be opposed, but the fit is off for me. He’s more of a slasher and Iso player. I also wonder if that would slow the development of Reddish, Huerter, or Hunter? If the Hawks choose to address the wing position, I’d like them to go after an established 3 and D player who understands his role, and can assist in the development of the three mentioned above.

If I’m the Hawks ( and most are not going to like this), I’d offer John, Dedmon, and future first ( not 2020) picks for Anteokounmpo. He is the only player outside of Anthony Davis, the Hawks should consider parting with assets fit to get ahead of the rebuild curb. Davis is not likely to leave LA. I can’t say the same about the Greek Freak in Mil. It would be a huge risk and I would be unwilling to add Trae, Cam, or this years pick in the deal.

If not I think the Hawks would have to be one of the teams on a short list he should consider in FA. The Hawks will be a playoff team if healthy next season, with or without him. We should be a very intriguing landing spot for him....

Trae/ Jeff
Cam/ Huerter
Hunter/?????
Anteokounmpo/Skal
Capela/ Bruno

Now that would be awesome. If not I’d resign John, but not to a max deal. His offense is to dependent on Trae to max him. If they do, I think he will be traded.

For the Hawks to get Giannis it would take a lot

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Originally Posted by Tg11

For the Hawks to get Giannis it would take a lot

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No doubt. They’d want Something similar to what the Lakers gave up. That being said Collins ( all be it suspended at one point) has done a lot more to establish his self than anyone the Lakers gave up at that time. That being said it will take another young player and picks. If the Hawks are blessed enough to land in a position to draft Weismann, I would not include that pick, Trae, nor Cam. However I wouldn’t give up the package the Lakers gave. As we don’t have the pull of an LA, we don’t LeBron, nor any assurances from his agent. So as stated above Collins would have to be included, maybe Huerter, and future picks.

If the pick is not too 3, offering it and Collins should get the ball rolling. As far as LA, I thought they gave to much. However they backed themselves in a corner with all the talk. I thought they should have been able to hold onto Ball in the deal. We would not be in that same position. As we wouldn’t be talking about it for a year.

Greek Freak has said all the right things, however the modern NBA just doesn’t keep superstars in small markets. Tim Duncan May be the loan exception and even he is from a past generation. Atlanta is a top ten Market, just takes a winner!

Saw a Draft Lottery simulation just last night and in this simulation it has the Hawks picking at #2 and drafting at #2 and with that pick choose Anthony Edwards with their pick

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Originally Posted by Tg11

Saw a Draft Lottery simulation just last night and in this simulation it has the Hawks picking at #2 and drafting at #2 and with that pick choose Anthony Edwards with their pick

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Who went number one? And do you support that pick, if it goes as the mock simulated it?

In the mock draft simulation it had LaMelo going #1 and it had him going to the Detroit Pistons and honestly I could see it...but Edwards going #2 and playing for his hometown Hawks is almost destiny

Just saw the updates for the mocks and it has the Hawks taking PF Onyeka Okongwu as far as the Hawks draft board goes; I would say the future looks bright for the Hawks team

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Mock draft 2020:

1 *Golden St. Anthony Edwards 6-5 225 SG Georgia Fr.
2 *Cleveland Obi Toppin 6-9 220 PF Dayton So.
3 Minnesota LaMelo Ball 6-8 180 PG USA Intl.
4 Atlanta James Wiseman 7-1 235 C Memphis Fr.
5 Detroit Killian Hayes 6-5 195 PG France Intl.
6 New York Devin Vassell 6-7 200 SG Florida St. So.
7 Chicago Tyrese Haliburton 6-5 185 PG Iowa St. So.
8 Charlotte Onyeka Okongwu 6-9 235 PF/C USC Fr.
9 Washington Deni Avdija 6-9 210 SF Israel Intl.
10 Phoenix Isaac Okoro 6-6 215 SG/SF Auburn Fr.
11 San Antonio Cole Anthony 6-3 185 PG North Carolina Fr.
12 Sacramento Precious Achiuwa 6-9 225 PF Memphis Fr.
13 New Orleans Aaron Nesmith 6-6 215 SG/SF Vanderbilt So.
14 Portland Daniel Oturu 6-10 240 C Minnesota So.
15 Orlando Patrick Williams 6-7 215 SF/PF Florida St. Fr.
16 *Minnesota Theo Maledon 6-5 175 PG France Intl.
17 *Boston RJ Hampton 6-4 175 PG/SG USA Intl.
18 *Milwaukee Tyrese Maxey 6-2 190 SG Kentucky Fr.
19 *Brooklyn Kira Lewis 6-3 170 PG Alabama So.
20 *Philadelphia Vernon Carey 6-10 265 PF/C Duke Fr.
21 Dallas Josh Green 6-5 200 SG Arizona Fr.
22 *Memphis Nico Mannion 6-3 190 PG Arizona Fr.
23 *Denver Jaden McDaniels 6-10 185 SF/PF Washington Fr.
24 Miami Reggie Perry 6-9 250 PF Mississippi St. So.
25 *New York Jalen Smith 6-10 215 PF Maryland So.
26 Boston Jahmius Ramsey 6-3 190 PG/SG Texas Tech Fr.
27 *Oklahoma Cty Isaiah Stewart 6-9 250 PF/C Washington Fr.
28 Toronto Saddiq Bey 6-8 215 SF Villanova So.
29 LA Lakers Elijah Hughes 6-6 215 SG Syracuse Jr.
30 *Boston Tyler Bey 6-7 215 SF/PF Colorado Jr.

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I’d definitely be on board if it plays out this way, But I guess you could say I’m pro Weismann so......

Anthony Davis, PF, Los Angeles Lakers.

Brandon Ingram, SF, New Orleans Pelicans. ...

Fred VanVleet, PG, Toronto Raptors. ...

Danilo Gallinari, PF, Oklahoma City Thunder. ...

DeMar DeRozan, SG, San Antonio Spurs. ...

Montrezl Harrell, PF, Los Angeles Clippers. ...

Davis Bertans, PF, Washington Wizards. ...

Jerami Grant, PF, Denver Nuggets.

Would Warriors take Collins for their #2? We draft Wiseman with that pick. Thoughts? Just don't see Collins as our star. Just near star level. If I'm correct, this will be Collins last season bf his 1st big paycheck? If so, then would take more than Collins for the #2 pick. Just thinking out loud here...

Also, Caldwell-Pope, as it looks will become fa. Nice player to play alongside of Trae. Another deep shooter. Def try and sign Rondo as Trae's backup and vet presence.

Who falls in our lap at #6 will determine who we get. This draft is flat from 1-8, maybe to 10. Edwards, Wiseman and Ball seems pretty legit ad top 3 but never know what can happen from there...