Long overdue.
I'm not expecting much and that's a great position to be in. Wonder if we make a somewhat surprising splash.
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Long overdue.
I'm not expecting much and that's a great position to be in. Wonder if we make a somewhat surprising splash.
I have no idea who it might be or what avenue, but I do feel the bears are going to make a surprising splash somewhere. Whether a trade up in the draft, free agency, or trade for a player.
I think there's a chance they make a play for a top safety (Collins, Mathieu, Thomas) if they let Amos hit the market.
Otherwise not expecting much. Hopefully Callahan doesn't have a big market due to his injury history.
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I wonder what the market is gonna be for Ziggy due to his injury history. What's Preston Smith's market? I'd rather pay another edge rusher then Amos.
Hell, I'd love Clay Matthews on a short deal.
I think that pace makes some sort of splash too. My bets are on Leveon or Brown. I just think we try and get that one more playamker to make the offense go to great.
Somebody i also might be interested in is Tarell Suggs
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Originally Posted by toovey107
Id take him on a 1 or 2 year deal. Opposite of Mack, he could really do some damage with Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by toovey107
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Im expecting Pace to make a move and go all in. He knows we have a two year window right now. Wouldnt be surprised to see him do something like that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyben36
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I agree. It just comes down to whether you keep thr defense elite (trying to retain or replace Amos and Callahan) or make the offense better... Cause we just dont have the ability to do bothQuote:
Originally Posted by JBears79
It would be nice if we could find a Brandon Cooks rental like the patriots did when he was cheap.
Leveon in this offense :drool:
If im Pace i think the play is to make the offense better. The defense should be top 5 with our front 7. We should be able to hide some deficiencies in the secondary (barring injury) if we let Amos and Callahan walk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyben36
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I know alot of people dont like Deon Bush...... But I think he can be a solid player to replace Amos. NO...... he didnt seem good when you talk about replacing Jackson..... But honestly Jackson was so good this last year I am not sure any S in the league looks good in comparison. Jackson quetly had a season worthy of DPOY caliber. The reason it was not noticed is Mack got alot of atention. and also Donnald was also really good.
there was no way to be happy with him replacing Jackson. But i dont know if the drop from him to amos is that much. I would also bring in somebody to compete (obviously) But I dont know if its that bad. However I do really hate loosing Amos for nothing. He is a really good player.
The only other issue though is that there is a total lack of offensive talent available in Free agency. Behind Leveon (who has some question marks sitting a year). Telvin Coleman and Mark Ingram are major drop offs IMO. and WRs are about as thin as they come. When Golden Tate likely highlights the clase you know its iffy.
Thats why i wonder if you dont splash on Brown. I wonder if you can get it done for a 2nd (next year) + Gabriel..... Maybe include Kwitkowski.
Brown may also need to be traded after this season.... but this seems like the perfect chance to make a splash play for a guy in the time to make a run.
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No way I could root for clay
Suggs would be awesome though
Karlos Williams watch
https://youtu.be/EC72DWtcMg0
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Originally Posted by Stunner
Tho we should get him less than that because of his injury history
How bout letting Amos and Callahan walk and signing Suggs?
With a front 7 even better than last year, Bush and McManis should be fine. They could prob sign a vet safety for cheap too.
Deon Bush is not good enough to start and Suggs is going to be 37 years old. I value Bryce and Amos over both of them. Bryce arguably the best cover nickel and can tackle and Amos tho not a playmaker he’s one of the best sure fire tackling safeties in the League with somewhat limited mistakes being made. Deon Bush still tackles like he’s in college aka never wraps up always leading with the shoulder and he’s just not starting material. Best to try and keep the core of you can and not because of a 37 year old Suggs . Hell he shouldn’t even cost a lot to begin with due to his age but big no breaking the bank on getting him here . If we can get him and keep one of Bryce or Amos then fine not the latter
Wow didn’t realize Suggs was that old. Makes sense he’s been around forever
I'll take his teammate Z'Darius Smith tho. 9 sacks last year and a pretty good PFF rating to back things up. Only 26 years old. I don't hate the idea of building up the front seven and drafting a new safety to replace Amos. Dee Ford and Clowney are both out there too, but I imagine they're out of the price range.Quote:
Originally Posted by KG2TB
The more I think about it. The more I believe Pace will make another huge move this offseason to go all in the next 2 years. Brown or Bell are completely realistic targets for him if he is betting on his window.
We do have some trade canidates (Kwitkowski, Bullard and potentially Goldman) to reobtain picks.
I could get behind a move like that.
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I agree I want Amos and Callahan back.... but i do think your too hard on Bush. With Very little reps to view him from its hard to get a proper gauge of how good/bad he is... plus he could allways get better. But statistically he held up OK. No he isnt the play maker Jackson is but Amos had years those years too. To say he isnt starting quality is a bit too drastic IMO. He isnt a top notch starter...... but that doesnt mean he cant start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stunner
I mean Via PFF
Anthony Harris 89.0
Adrian Amos 82.7
HAHA Clinton Dix 79.3
Deon Bush 75.8
Tyrann Mathieu 75.1
Tre Boston 74.1
Lamarcus Joyner 73.1
Landon Collins 70.4
Clayton Geathers 67.4
Eric Reid 66.5
Kenny Vacarro 66.4
Glover Quinn 66.1
Adrian Phillips 66.0
I also know for a fact some of you have been clamoring for a few of these guys to potentially replace them. and I find it funny that some of you say Bush is Trash and cant start..... meanwhile PFF says the opposite. FYI i dont like taking PFF as a standard but I do tend to trust them over a fans opinion (no offense)
Goldman wont be traded. Howard is more likely...... But i agree I think Pace does something. I am not sure what.... but those two names make sense for us both positionally as a play maker and availability. I also wonder if we would not take a stab at Beckham but something tells me no.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBears79
When I mentioned Suggs I thought of him as a cheap backup/ rotational guy not as a starter. I think Floyd is our starter whether you like him or not.
Deon Bush is off very very limited snaps that’s why it had a U/R next it 8 tackles and 1 sack . In his 2 games he started he only had 2 tackles combined.
Also Eddie Goldman is here to stay he played his freaking *** off last year and one of the best NT in the game just turning 25 in Jan
Anyone Think Bell might have to take a shorter or less lucrative deal due to his season off. Rumors coming out he gained a ton of weight while off. obviously the time off could make him a risk too. I surely want the old Leveon Bell in Chicago. Wonder if he will need a prove it deal. if so we make alot of sense.
You say that and yet your willing to say indefinitely he is not a starter???? I get Amos is better. But I dont think he is this awful player your making him out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stunner
I can’t see him as a full time starter he’s ok depth . he’s not awful but I’m not depending on him more than the stated games he started last season .Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyben36
Yeah this. Why would we trade away the guy along with Hicks that completely shuts down the opponents running game and allows the LBs to roam. Hes young, the contract will look like a value once the cap goes up, and NT isn't easy to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stunner
I agree its likely he wont be traded but the reason i listed him was because of the emergence of Nichols. If Pace really wanted to make a gamble I could see him dangling Goldman. I obviously want Goldman on the Bears but its just a thought ive had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyben36
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I honestly think Nichols replaces Hicks down the road. I mean Hicks is a monster but by the time his contract is up he will be 32..... and I am unsure how his body will hold up. Meanwhile Eddie is 25..... and has a long carear ahead of him IMO. I think there is a reason we just gave him a pretty signifigant contract. I beleive he is the highest paid NT in the league. unless you include Marcell Dareus (but he is about to be cut)Quote:
Originally Posted by JBears79
I keep going back and forth on thr hythetical Steeler addition options
1 hand..... Antonio Brown added to this squad makes everything easier for Mitch...... And we can likely draft a guy in the 3rd round and be a solid RB. But that receiver cote is #1 in the nfl
On the other. I look at the guys i have and Think Robinson will be steping up more (we saw it in the playoffs) Miller i think can be a stud. Gabriel is a solid option. We don't really need brown. But Leveon would be sick to sure up RB.
And fnnaly in a 3rd option... I come back and combine the two. Do we really need Brown..... Cant we still find a guy in the 3rd or later at RB. Shouldnt we keep our D the focus and let the offense develop. .
Idk.
So IDK.
Completely agree with this other than I see no way they trade Goldman.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBears79
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Bell would be fantastic, I think Goldman has to stay.
I'd guess there's little to no chance they pursue Bell. He held out for a massive payday. I don't see how the Bears can afford that and Pace does not seem like the type of GM that'll ever throw big money at a devalued position like that.
I won't be shocked if Pace does really go for it while they're in this window, but I don't believe that's the type of move he'd make in this scenario.
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