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  1. Would Kerry Wood be voted by his peers 5 years after he gone to the hall of fame citing that he was one of the best pitchers in his era? A couple years and done for Kerry.
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    Don't disagree, but that shortened career thing creates a very fuzzy line. We can speculate how Mattingly would have done without injury, but sadly, thanks to Bob Shirley, we'll never know. At what point does it become absurd. As an extreme example, Kerry Wood was a monster when he first came up. If you take away injuries he could be in the HOF based on the non injured version. But it's VERY hard to even begin to spin that argument.
  3. Although I can not completely disagree with your take on Mattingly I can say this. If the players, coaches, and managers voted they would pick him and the reason would be because they would have felt that they witnessed one of the best to ever play the game. Negro league players who had little time in actual major league ball, players who may have died early as a player, or players that had an unfortunate injury take them away. I would much rather consider those factors when deceiding a players fate than a timetable of longevity.
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    For me, HOFers should be dominant players who can sustain that level of dominance for a period of time. That's why Mattingly is questionable in my mind. He definitely was one of the best in the game. But there was really only a 5 year span where he was elite. (Mid to late 80s) So while he played beyond then, he wasn't the guy he once was.

    And I agree on the steroid thing. The idea of ARod and Bonds not being in the HOF is absurd. The best players of their era need to go into the Hall
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    Completely agree on the HOF front. Guys like Palmeiro getting in bug the hell out of me. He was never the best 1st baseman in baseball. Never a fear hitter. Just a very durable guy who played very well for nearly 2 decades. I'm not sure I'd put Mattingly in. Sadly his injury did cut his career a bit short. But I'd prefer a guy like him in than a compiler like Rafeal.
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    You don't like a HOF with guys who were very good for a very long time
  7. Mattingly will be the only player that was the best at his position, all considered, during the era in which he played and will not be in the Hall. That is why I hate the place. It is a grave yard for guys who played a long time it has nothing to do with who deserves the honor. Not one player in his era would tell you that he was not the best pure hitter in the game before his injury. The biased sports writers to there own opinions will never consider stuff like that. Anyway, he probably would not have become a gold glover over there at third, I don't think. HA HA
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    Mattingly may be the only lefty I can name that played a game @ 3rd.
  9. He wore like 40 something for a uniform number back then. I paid .50 for this card back in 1984.
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    Hey, Mattingly rookie card. I have one of those hanging over my computer desk.
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