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    Im finishing up the G.O.A.T. Project, wanted to know if you wanted to make any changes to your Top-15?

    This was your list last time;

    1. Magic Johnson
    2. Oscar Robertson
    3. John Stockton
    4. Bob Cousy
    5. Isiah Thomas
    6. Jason Kidd
    7. Kevin Johnson
    8. Steve Nash
    9. Garry Payton
    10. Walt Frazier
    11. Nate Archibald
    12. Chris Paul
    13. Tim Hardaway
    14. Norm Nixon
    15. Lenny Wilkens

    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Jerry West
    4. Clyde Drexler
    5. George Gervin
    6. Allen Iverson
    7. Pete Maravich
    8. Dwyane Wade
    9. Ray Allen
    10. Earl Monroe
    11. Reggie Miller
    12. Joe Dumars
    13. David Thompson
    14. Dave Bing
    15. Sam Jones
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    1. Larry Bird
    2. Elgin Baylor
    3. LeBron James
    4. Julius Erving
    5. John Havlicek
    6. Dominique Wilkins
    7. Scottie Pippen
    8. Rick Barry
    9. Carmelo Anthony
    10. Adrian Dantley
    11. James Worthy
    12. Paul Pierce
    13. Alex English
    14. Bernard King
    15. Shawn Marion

    1. Tim Duncan
    2. Kevin Garnett
    3. Karl Malone
    4. Charles Barkley
    5. Elvin Hayes
    6. Kevin McHale
    7. Bob Pettit
    8. Dirk Nowitzki
    9. Dennis Rodman
    10. Dave Debusschere
    11. Bob McAdoo
    12. Jerry Lucas
    13. Dolph Schayes
    14. Connie Hawkins
    15. Larry Nance

    1. Wilt Chamberlain
    2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    3. Hakeem Olajuwon
    4. Shaquille O'Neal
    5. Bill Russell
    6. Moses Malone
    7. David Robinson
    8. Wal Bellamy
    9. Willis Reed
    10. George Mikan
    11. Patrick Ewing
    12. Nate Thurmond
    13. Artis Gilmore
    14. Robert Parish
    15. Dave Cowens
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    Dude do you want in the fantasy league? If so I need your email by tonight, drafts tommarow!
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    Project Update: We've Moved

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    Project Update:
    Members added, ballots ready to be received, and social club has been created in the interim


    Ive created this forum for us while we wait for a response from all potential members, in the mean time you can submit your ballot there, or through PM.

    2:1 members are saying positional ranks are the way to start, most also agree a simplified ballot would be best.

    (POS) : Ballot

    You can submit your Ballot at your leisure but it should be a complete ballot for the Top-15 Players you can think of at whichever position you wish to submit first.

    If the task of properly ranking the Top-15 players at each position as a starting point seems steep, your thinking too much of it. This is just to establish a baseline pecking order so that the poll options can be narrowed down to the majority favored. The beautiful thing about this project is that if you happen to forget someone or under/over value an individual player, there are still 40ish other members who could find him worth mentioning.

    When the votes are tallied, the results will not be limited to 15 Players but every player who received a vote.

    Once again thanks for the help fellas, the credibility of this project gos to **** without the collective efforts of PSDs best. Have a good weekend, hopefully come Monday the voting can start.
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    GOAT Project Members
    sixer04fan --76'ers
    Swashcuff -- 76'ers
    kingbrentg -- Bulls
    JordansBulls -- Bulls
    Iggz53 -- Bulls
    abe_froman -- Bulls
    ChiSox219 -- Bulls
    Corey -- Celtics
    Chronz - Clippers
    SteBO -- Heat
    daleja424 -- Heat
    Catfish1314 -- Kings
    29$jersey -- Knicks
    roshan3ai -- Knicks
    patsSOXknicks -- Knicks
    Wilson -- Lakers
    Bruno -- Lakers
    chacarronsau -- Lakers
    ARMIN12NBA -- Lakers
    lakers4sho -- Lakers
    DenButsu -- Nuggets
    ink - Raptors
    Raps08-09 Champ -- Raptors
    sep11ie -- Rockets
    mightybosstone -- Rockets
    JPHX -- Suns
    Bishnoff -- Suns
    Hawkeye15 -- T'Wolves
    WSU Tony -- T'Wolves
    tredigs -- Warriors

    Voting System
    For Positional: 6
    (Raps08-09 Champ, abe_froman, Iggz53, ebbs, sixer04fan, sep11ie, kingbrentg)
    For Overall: 4
    (Corey, Swashcuff, JB, Denbutsu)

    PS: In order to erase the complaints associated with MHC's method, when it comes time to vote for the best period, I will post the Top3 vote getters even tho I think it wont be necessary.

    Once the voting system is settled on, we have to agree on a scoring system, electoral system or some sort of ballot.

    Ebbs mentioned the idea of a PTS system similar to ESPN's where everyone has a Top(10-15)Ballot, they submit their Top players at that position. The votes are tallied and weighed according to their draft status (#1 gets the full 15PTS, #2 get 14, #3 gets 13 and so on...), the pros to this are that it will speed up the initial process considerably.
    The arbitrary #'s could lead to some iffy results for the positions segment of the project, but since the initial stages are meant only to establish some sort of associative balance, this should not effect the process of selecting the best overall.

    If we go with the Overall system we will copy JB's system to a near T. Hes laid down the foundation, the only change I would suggest is that we begin the voting process by submitting a Top5 Ballot and beginning the 1 by 1 process from that starting point. Most of us have an idea of the first 5 players we plan on voting for anyways.

    Totally up to you guys tho

    So which methodology would you guys rather utilize? Straightforward Player by player voting that works for either system or if we go by positions to start, a scoring ballot where everyone submits their Top-15 at each position?
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    Regarding the GOAT Project;

    Corey is looking into finding the proper discussion location for this topic so in the mean time until he gets the go ahead Im coming to you individually to get your opinion on how the voting process should work.

    First and foremost, the method:Positional Rankings vs Overall?

    -----If we go by positions then it allows for a narrower/simpler starting point with more clearly defined expectations and analysis. The only con here is there may be difficult players to pigeonhole into a position, also the process drags on a little longer as it applies the logic Mile High Champ used in his Annual Rankings, which depending on the size of the committe could be a good/bad thing.

    -----Going by overall is and to the point, sounds simpler and in many ways it is but the lack of complexity allows for a broader range of candidates along with the possibility of contradictory logic. For example, the group at large could agree that PlayerA and PlayerB are > PlayerC, but if that group of individuals were split on voting for Player A or B they could potentially lose out to Player C despite the group at large unwilling to back the notion.


    Aside from that comes the eligibility of current superstars; we can either set up a strict cutoff in terms of years served or simply rank players by where they would fare had their careers ended today, which given the climate may not be much of a stretch.


    2 issues, thoughts?
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    what do you know about pat mills

    think he would be a good 3rd point guard
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