Big Moves03
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Yeah, errors are, but that was a pretty routine ground ball (I know he kind of got caught in between hops, but it just hurts to lose on what...

two out of three is not bad but should've been a clean sweep. tough one to lose given that it was a routine ground ball that cost us the game

Off to a good start. Would be great if we can sweep them on their home field.

But this isn't LBJ creating these threads and saying he's still the best player in the league and that he's a better scorer than KD. Sure, if LBJ...

Everyone acknowledged it though that it's a great and unprecedented accomplishment, but these threads about LBJ are celebrating pretty hard. I don't...

Because we sucked that's why lol

Rightfully so. Winning is what matters. A player needs to show that they can win, because it's not difficult for great players to put up great...

But that was never the argument nor was it ever questioned whether LBJ could do it on a good team. The point was that it did not happen (there's a...

Teams weren't going at us too hard given that they were openly mocking and laughing at us during the games. Those are the conditions under which this...

Well we've seen a younger LBJ do it. This is an older LBJ who is more injury prone. Nevertheless, I agree that we know he can still play at a high...

That's not how talent is evaluated, but performance isn't always how talent is evaluated either. Scouts evaluate talent largely on what they think a...

That assumes that the player's impact isn't affected by differences in how the opposition plays them, which is what I was referring too. My point was...

It's not flawed logic (though you may disagree with my position). I don't believe impact on a game is linear nor that impact on a game can be neatly...

Yeah, I would definitely say so because it would have occurred under a winning season. When you're on a bad team and you put up big numbers, there's...

Yeah, I don't disagree with this. As I've said, we still recognize elite players even if they're on bad teams. Their play is the most important...

Well with Curry he had kind of a down season in 2019 and then missed almost all of 2020 so it makes sense people would say he's back. Everyone still...

Winning factors in as well as it should. It's not the only thing, but it certainly is an important component. You seem to disagree with this, which...

The skills do change. Sometimes guys work harder in some years than in others or are in a better mindset or defenses adjust and the player doesn't....

Those are two different things. The winning or lack thereof takes away from his otherwise impressive year. Had he done that and the team had a great...

You mean next year? No, not really. It would mean that LBJ had the better year in 2023. Who is better for a given doesn't depend on what they do the...

Neither. It's his play. You can argue that I am biased, but what about everyone else on here who are LBJ fans? Are they also biased now?

LBJ was injured in 2019 when KD was helping to lead the warriors to the finals. 2020 LBJ was ranked ahead of KD, since KD didn't play. 2021 LBJ...

I agree that it's close enough that it can be argued either way.

Not for that year (just like this year KL doesnt factor into the rankings since he didnt play). That was two years ago though, but KD might have...

You're ignoring that their numbers have to be somewhat comparable. Obviously a player putting up 30 a game isn't typically going to be comparable to...

He was in the discussion for top 5. I don't remember at this point whether he was or he wasn't (it was 8 years ago lol) so I don't know if he was top...

Well I'm not sure Kyrie or Love were ever top 5 players. AD was but he led his team to the playoffs on multiple occasions.

Dude, the idea is not that complex and no, you are misrepresenting and/or misunderstanding. For players who have comparable seasons, the one on the...

That's what this whole thread was about. When two players are close, the one on the better team is going to get the nod...and yes, I actually would...

How players are assessed and how they are celebrated for their accomplishments are two different things. Putting up great numbers clearly indicates...