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kdspurman
04-12-2019, 10:22 AM
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Game 1: Sat, April 13 Orlando at Toronto. 5 ET, ESPN

Game 2: Tue, April 16 Orlando at Toronto, 8 ET, TNT

Game 3: Fri, April 19 Toronto at Orlando, 7 ET, ESPN

Game 4: Sun, April 21 Toronto at Orlando, 7 ET, TNT

*Game 5: Tue, April 23 Orlando at Toronto, TBD, TBD

*Game 6: Thu, April 25 Toronto at Orlando, TBD, TBD

*Game 7: Sat, April 27 Orlando at Toronto, TBD, TNT




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Projected Starting Lineup

PG: Kyle Lowry
SG: Danny Green
SF: Kawhi Leonard
PF: Pascal Siakam
C: Marc Gasol



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Projected Starting Lineup

PG: DJ Augustin
SG: Evan Fournier
SF: Jonathan Isaac
PF: Aaron Gordon
C: Nikola Vucevic

Tg11
04-12-2019, 10:30 AM
Raptors will choke even though it is supposed to be an easy series for them. Watch them **** it all up. Orlando is a young and inexperienced team especially when it comes to playoff ball so you would think Toronto would sweep this series but I don't see it happening. Realistically do I expect Toronto to win this series? Yes I do but knowing Orlando they will make it tough especially when Toronto struggles against teams in the playoffs when they should beat them no problem. I see this going 5 or 6 games realistically.

kdspurman
04-12-2019, 12:48 PM
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goingfor28
04-12-2019, 01:04 PM
Raptors in 6

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LeonFSU
04-12-2019, 01:07 PM
Not a good matchup for Orlando. It was a success just getting to the playoffs, but hopefully they can steal one game.

bucketss
04-12-2019, 03:07 PM
Raptors will choke even though it is supposed to be an easy series for them. Watch them **** it all up. Orlando is a young and inexperienced team especially when it comes to playoff ball so you would think Toronto would sweep this series but I don't see it happening. Realistically do I expect Toronto to win this series? Yes I do but knowing Orlando they will make it tough especially when Toronto struggles against teams in the playoffs when they should beat them no problem. I see this going 5 or 6 games realistically.

they're a pretty good team like 22-9 since February, series going 5-6 isnt a choke

Rivera
04-12-2019, 04:46 PM
terrible matchup for my Magic. We will be lucky to win 1 game. either way, im happy we just made it :)

Jamiecballer
04-12-2019, 05:09 PM
Vucevic is the key to this series. If the Raps can't keep him out of 20/20 territory they could get a tough series.

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Lakers + Giants
04-12-2019, 08:25 PM
Raptors sweep

smith&wesson
04-12-2019, 11:58 PM
Sweep 🧹

cmellofan15
04-13-2019, 12:05 AM
Kawhi will show why he's still a top 5 player and end this thing in 4

ManningToTyree
04-13-2019, 09:38 AM
Raptors sweep


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Tg11
04-13-2019, 10:00 AM
Raptors will be lucky if they sweep the Magic

aman_13
04-13-2019, 01:45 PM
The Magic have been one of the best teams in the league since the all star break. They move the ball well, can shoot the three, and are long. They are also well coached. I'm expecting it to be competitive series.

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 02:27 PM
I just don't see how an inexperienced team like the Magic are going to give the Raps any problems. Everyone of our starting 5 outside of Siakam is LOADED with playoff experience and despite the stigma around him Kyle Lowry exercised his post season demons last year.

I think the game slowing down is going to benefit the Raps in a much bigger way than it will for the Magic. Kawhi can create his own shot and Gasol has really settled in as a playmaker on offence. The Magic are probably going to be living and dying on Vucevic. On the defensive end it'll help Gasol who clearly has lost a step but is still a more than capable defender. I get that the Magic had a solid 2nd half but the playoffs are a different animal. One of these teams is built for the post season while the other is pretty much in unknown territory.

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 05:25 PM
Kawhi <3

smith&wesson
04-13-2019, 05:31 PM
The Magic have been one of the best teams in the league since the all star break. They move the ball well, can shoot the three, and are long. They are also well coached. I'm expecting it to be competitive series.

I want to respect them to, but they donít have the experience or enough talent. Iím happy for my boy Tross though. Excited to watch him play

smith&wesson
04-13-2019, 05:32 PM
Raptors will be lucky if they sweep the Magic

Luck ? Really ?

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 05:41 PM
JV is at the game. The guy really loved it in Toronto and it sucks to see him go but Gasol's game has fit in so nicely.

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 05:54 PM
Timeout because Lowry took a knee to the nuts.

goingfor28
04-13-2019, 06:12 PM
I see Lowry is in typical postseason form.

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Bostonjorge
04-13-2019, 06:14 PM
Toronto was down 16 then the 8-0 run to close the half.

bucketss
04-13-2019, 06:29 PM
at half time

Augistin - 19 points
Lowry - 0 points


WTF

Heediot
04-13-2019, 06:46 PM
Kyle Lowry exercised his post season demons last year.


Kyle does well vs. Cle in the playoffs. He did good vs. Wash last year too. It seems like he is a matchup dependent guy in ways. I still think he lets outside noise bother him more then he should. HIs size becomes more of n issue when defense key on you differently in the playoffs. He doesn't have the athleticism or Kyrie-eque craftines to help compensate enough in some instances.

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 06:58 PM
Kyle does well vs. Cle in the playoffs. He did good vs. Wash last year too. It seems like he is a matchup dependent guy in ways. I still think he lets outside noise bother him more then he should. HIs size becomes more of n issue when defense key on you differently in the playoffs. He doesn't have the athleticism or Kyrie-eque craftines to help compensate enough in some instances.

It's his decision making over the last couple of playoffs which has gotten much better. I don't know what his deal is today though. When he's driving you can tell he's not even thinking of putting it up.

Bostonjorge
04-13-2019, 07:07 PM
Lowry canít play playoff basketball

Cal827
04-13-2019, 07:09 PM
Kawhi, please come back to this game, it's been pretty bad with Lowry at the helm of the offense right now :facepalm:

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 07:12 PM
Refs finally blew a terrible call in favour of the Raps. Pretty sure MCW has a bloody nose.

Bostonjorge
04-13-2019, 07:13 PM
Siakam has been balling since the Gasol trade. Gasol makes great passes and sets up great screens all day for Siakam to shine and get the easy baskets.

Heediot
04-13-2019, 07:22 PM
Glad Khem Birch is getting a nice role on this Orlando run.

JAZZNC
04-13-2019, 07:25 PM
Remember when people thought Lowry was good at basketball? Possibly one of the worst playoff performers of all time. Total garbage.

Bostonjorge
04-13-2019, 07:27 PM
Lowry throws is away and gives Magic a east lay up. Then Leonard hits a huge 3 flowed by a iso base line fadeaway.

Heediot
04-13-2019, 07:28 PM
Let Kawhi take control.

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 07:28 PM
Kawhi <3

JAZZNC
04-13-2019, 07:30 PM
Oh snap! Can Kawhi gotta bail em out again?

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 07:31 PM
What a horrible miscommunication on D.

bucketss
04-13-2019, 07:32 PM
im done with lowry

kdspurman
04-13-2019, 07:32 PM
Wow. Kawhi had more time there

JAZZNC
04-13-2019, 07:34 PM
Man, Raps could lose the 1st game at home against the 7 seed with DeRozan.

R. Johnson#3
04-13-2019, 07:35 PM
So the Raptors have a curse with game 1's.

KobeOwnSU
04-13-2019, 07:35 PM
The East is such trash [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Heediot
04-13-2019, 07:36 PM
i hope lowry doesn't let the media eating him up effect him for the rest of the playoffs. just block out the noise and focus on what u can control.

tp13baby
04-13-2019, 07:37 PM
Lowry forgets there are games after number 82 I swear. 35 minutes zero points.

Heediot
04-13-2019, 07:38 PM
i don't know what the metrics will say. but lowry has 0 points but the best +- on the raps. something for his apologists to defend.

YAALREADYKNO
04-13-2019, 07:45 PM
Lowry is one of the worst playoff performers for a Allstar caliber player. What a FOOKEN game though and what a win by the Magic

Bostonjorge
04-13-2019, 07:46 PM
Raps had the last shot for the tie and had Lowry taking the ball out. Lowry in the season is the guy your trying to get a shot for not have him taking out.

Lil Rhody
04-13-2019, 07:54 PM
The East is such trash [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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PAOboston
04-13-2019, 08:03 PM
We sure Derozan was the issue in Toronto and not Lowry? Zero points? How????


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Cal827
04-13-2019, 08:07 PM
:laugh2: my biggest worry for the team was exposed (at least for game 1).. NICK NURSE ISN'T AN UPGRADE AT COACH :laugh2:... How can you not coach that team with so many defensive stalwarts to lock down on the long range shooters? It came down to a close score, and when it's down to single points, Nurse hasn't really shown that he's a better coach. It was give it to Kawhi and let him run... don't know why it took so long for him to get back in the game, but nontheless.

Well hopefully, they rebound in the next game. Lowry, please don't J.R Smith Kawhi Leonard out of Toronto :laugh2:

The Memes of this game are gonna be great though

Cal827
04-13-2019, 08:11 PM
i hope lowry doesn't let the media eating him up effect him for the rest of the playoffs. just block out the noise and focus on what u can control.

The issue now, is that he has another rock over his head and that's Kawhi. If we have a underwhelming playoff run and Kawhi leaves, if Lowry doesn't play well, he'll get a lot of the blame from the media for his departure (you know how people can't accept things). Some of it might be just saying "Kawhi couldn't go far in the playoffs with that team" but since he's the 2nd best player on the team (at least from what most people think for now) it'll come out against him.

ewing
04-13-2019, 08:34 PM
Wow this one shocked me. I think Brooklyn has a very very legit shot if Joel isnít 100 but I wasnít giving the Magic but of chance at all


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LeonFSU
04-13-2019, 09:34 PM
That was awesome for Orlando.

ohreally
04-13-2019, 09:54 PM
Orlando closed the year very strong, with lots of impressive wins. This is not all that surprising. They had played themselves out of the playoffs, but came storming back.

Raps are a better team than the Sixers, but the Magic have been living up their name.

zn23
04-13-2019, 10:20 PM
Lowry, predictably, wets the bed in game 1 as he always does. Still, Raps should've won this game.

Not too concerned.

More-Than-Most
04-13-2019, 10:50 PM
I just dont understand how lowry can be so awful as soon as the playoffs start.

Vee-Rex
04-13-2019, 11:10 PM
I just dont understand how lowry can be so awful as soon as the playoffs start.

The playoffs are COMPLETELY different than the regular season.

I stress this every single year.

goingfor28
04-13-2019, 11:12 PM
The playoffs are COMPLETELY different than the regular season.

I stress this every single year.Lowry isn't even average though. Not like he has a minor drop-off from Allstar to decent player. He goes from regular season Allstar to absolute trash.

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Scoots
04-13-2019, 11:57 PM
The playoffs are COMPLETELY different than the regular season.

I stress this every single year.

Theoretically players adjust, but every year players get there and puke up their games.

More-Than-Most
04-14-2019, 12:25 AM
The playoffs are COMPLETELY different than the regular season.

I stress this every single year.

no i get that but like stated above it wouldnt be horrid if he went from great to alright... he goes from great in the regular season to *** biscuits the day playoffs start and people arent guarding him differently really.

zn23
04-14-2019, 12:38 AM
Kyle Lowry in game 1 of the playoffs the last 5 years:

0 Points
11 Points
4 Points
11 Points
7 Points

I believe the Raps only won one of those games. I expect him to bounce back.

Tg11
04-14-2019, 05:31 AM
I told you the Raptors would **** up

WaDe03
04-14-2019, 10:22 AM
Kawhi will show why he's still a top 5 player and end this thing in 4

Hell yea he will

WaDe03
04-14-2019, 10:26 AM
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Here you go Jamiecballer, donít let these guys get to you, Lowry was clearly the best player in game 1 and far better than derizan.

ohreally
04-14-2019, 02:08 PM
The Raps didnít lose. The Magic won. Same goes for Brooklyn/Sixers.

ewing
04-14-2019, 05:52 PM
Raps in 5. This is what a would have said before game 1 so Iíll stick with it


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Heediot
04-14-2019, 06:40 PM
1117214155759656961

Here you go Jamiecballer, donít let these guys get to you, Lowry was clearly the best player in game 1 and far better than derizan.

Not a big fan of either because they are over-rated and get exposed in the playoffs. In general though, Lowry does more thing then Derozan on the floor that helps win games. Derozan is a volume scorer who sucks on D. Has limited range and relies on ref baiting. He has the better iso game, that's about it.

aman_13
04-14-2019, 07:34 PM
I get that he had zero points but the Raptors don't even rely on his scoring. The Magic are going to be tough. Unless you are the Warriors, teams that look average on certain nights are capable of losing to any given opponent. Especially if the opponent gets hot from three.

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Scoots
04-14-2019, 10:41 PM
I've seen about 8 Raps games this year and I was hoping it would change in the playoffs, but Kawhi has lost a step, maybe more. He's still incredibly skilled, but he plays like a much older player than he is. I do wonder if he's going to be worth a max contract to the Raps, independent of how this series turns out. Maybe he'll recover some in future years, but he may never be the same either ... it's a shame too because he hadn't even peaked.

aman_13
04-14-2019, 11:48 PM
I've seen about 8 Raps games this year and I was hoping it would change in the playoffs, but Kawhi has lost a step, maybe more. He's still incredibly skilled, but he plays like a much older player than he is. I do wonder if he's going to be worth a max contract to the Raps, independent of how this series turns out. Maybe he'll recover some in future years, but he may never be the same either ... it's a shame too because he hadn't even peaked.He's said that he hasn't been as healthy as he wanted to be this year. One thing for sure, that injury was real. He's looked noticeably slow.

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Scoots
04-15-2019, 10:27 AM
He's said that he hasn't been as healthy as he wanted to be this year. One thing for sure, that injury was real. He's looked noticeably slow.

I always thought the injury was real, the issue with the Spurs was that he wasn't engaged with getting better and getting on the floor.

At any rate, it will be a tough decision for the Raps.

Lil Rhody
04-15-2019, 03:19 PM
Took magic +10 and over 212

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Rivera
04-16-2019, 04:44 PM
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy My Magic won a game! thats 1 more game than I picked them to win in the Playoffs! woooo hooooo

Championship!

Rivera
04-16-2019, 04:46 PM
Glad Khem Birch is getting a nice role on this Orlando run.

Dude has been a great find. He knows his role and he plays it. Plays solid D, is a great screener and rolls to the basket every time. solid bench player

Cal827
04-16-2019, 06:57 PM
I always thought the injury was real, the issue with the Spurs was that he wasn't engaged with getting better and getting on the floor.

At any rate, it will be a tough decision for the Raps.


I don't think Masai has a choice. If Kawhi wants to resign here, they pretty much have to do it. The team traded the face of the franchise for a player they insist would be one who can get the team to take those extra steps to contending for (and possibly winning) an NBA title. The teams that would be interested in him will definitely offer him a max contract; and the Clippers (The team that's probably Kawhi's most likely destination if he leaves Toronto) look like they have a very solid team that a star or two could get them into contending again. Imagine Beverly and Kawhi playing on the same team defending the wing. While I think highly of Beverly's defense, that's a scary thought I would think to most people. With how they hyped him up, they can't then turn and say that he left because they wouldn't go full out on committing to him.

I do get what you're saying about losing a step or still being a little hurt, but statistically, his numbers are quite on par with he posted in his best San Antonio years. And despite the step back, he's still a much better defender than most players around, and is better than Derozan will ever be on that end. The NBA isn't like MLB when it comes to advanced stats impact on contracts yet. As we see, people aren't exactly commending Lowry's +12 effort on the court on Saturday :laugh2:

Their best bet would be to sign him, hope Siakam's progress keeps going, then try to build around them as all of these other contracts run out. If the team isn't good enough to get over the top now, they have a ton of potential free cap space in 2021.

Pretty much all of their contacts expire after 20-21 (Minus Powell, who they might get someone to take the contact, or he might become good enough to start at that spot), and maybe they could make a run at a potential star FA to pair up then.

smith&wesson
04-16-2019, 08:55 PM
Ross going off on us for trading him

smith&wesson
04-16-2019, 08:56 PM
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy My Magic won a game! thats 1 more game than I picked them to win in the Playoffs! woooo hooooo

Championship!

Nice young team .. I like the way the magic are building.

Cal827
04-16-2019, 09:04 PM
The **** with the Refs right now... Kawhi and Green have 3 fouls... the hell Kawhi doesn't foul people :laugh2:

Raptors need to foul harder next time and get their foul's worth :laugh2:

zn23
04-16-2019, 09:55 PM
Kyle Lowry is certainly redeeming himself.

aman_13
04-16-2019, 10:26 PM
I like Nurse but he completely dropped the ball in game 1. How does Kawhi only play 32 minutes in game 1? The Raptors could have been up 2-0 right now.

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goingfor28
04-16-2019, 10:28 PM
Nice of Lowry to not be complete trash tonight.

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Chronz
04-16-2019, 10:40 PM
Kawhi still a freak of nature tho, incredibly long/strong, lost abit but that happens around this stage, his skill game has more than compensated imo

aman_13
04-16-2019, 10:52 PM
It's been a while since I've seen a performance like that in the playoffs. Kyle and DeMar have had great games but that was another level of dominance.

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Bostonjorge
04-17-2019, 01:18 AM
I think Raptors won the Gasol trade. Gasol making Siakam look like a all star.

Leonard had a couple Jordan level moments it seemed.

Rivera
04-17-2019, 09:10 AM
I think Raptors won the Gasol trade. Gasol making Siakam look like a all star.

Leonard had a couple Jordan level moments it seemed.

Both team won but the demise of Gasol's impact was underrated. Our best player Vooch has scored 17 points in 2 games. Somehow we have won one. Gasol has played great D and Torontos offense looks better this playoffs than last playoffs.

Last year Toronto had ball movement in the regular season but reverted to lowry/derozan come playoff time. They are relying on KL but their is much much more ball movement and space this years post season for Toronto so far.

This is why I picked them to go to the Finals over Boston, I dont trust Boston yet. No denying their talent, I picked them preseason to go to the finals and gave them a legit shot the beat GSW. But right now, I still dont trust them

ChongInc.
04-18-2019, 02:17 PM
Both team won but the demise of Gasol's impact was underrated. Our best player Vooch has scored 17 points in 2 games. Somehow we have won one. Gasol has played great D and Torontos offense looks better this playoffs than last playoffs.

Last year Toronto had ball movement in the regular season but reverted to lowry/derozan come playoff time. They are relying on KL but their is much much more ball movement and space this years post season for Toronto so far.

This is why I picked them to go to the Finals over Boston, I dont trust Boston yet. No denying their talent, I picked them preseason to go to the finals and gave them a legit shot the beat GSW. But right now, I still dont trust them

In Toronto we are MUCH more concerned about the 76ers and milwakee than we are Boston.

R. Johnson#3
04-18-2019, 03:11 PM
In Toronto we are MUCH more concerned about the 76ers and milwakee than we are Boston.

I'm actually worried about Philly the least out of the 3 because we matchup incredibly well with them. Stick Lowry on JJ then Green, Kawhi and Siakam can all switch on Simmons, Butler and Harris while Gasol owns Embiid's soul. Couple that with the fact that Simmons still hasn't shook his disappearing act and the fact that Embiid is hurt.

WaDe03
04-18-2019, 03:23 PM
Battle of 2 very medicocre franchises.

R. Johnson#3
04-18-2019, 03:30 PM
Battle of 2 very medicocre franchises.

If you look at history then you're not wrong. I would expect nothing less from someone who lives in the past, much like yourself.

WaDe03
04-18-2019, 03:49 PM
If you look at history then you're not wrong. I would expect nothing less from someone who lives in the past, much like yourself.

I take all time in to account, including the present. Good teams, neither will or are expected to win it all.

R. Johnson#3
04-18-2019, 03:57 PM
I take all time in to account, including the present. Good teams, neither will or are expected to win it all.

Only time will tell.

Rivera
04-18-2019, 04:01 PM
In Toronto we are MUCH more concerned about the 76ers and milwakee than we are Boston.

good to know. I wouldnt agree personally, but I understand and respect you bringing this knowledge to me.

im surprised you guys are concerned about Philly. Without looking at any numbers, havent you guys owned Philly the last 2 regular seasons? Granted i know regular season success doesnt mean much but im just wondering

Jamiecballer
04-18-2019, 05:25 PM
I think a lot of Toronto fans are way more concerned with Boston and Milwaukee.

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goingfor28
04-18-2019, 05:49 PM
I think a lot of Toronto fans are way more concerned with Boston and Milwaukee.

Sent from my SM-A520W using TapatalkConsidering Toronto's recent playoff history, their fans should be concerned with Orlando first.

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Jamiecballer
04-18-2019, 06:24 PM
Considering Toronto's recent playoff history, their fans should be concerned with Orlando first.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using TapatalkThey haven't been bounced in the first in a while

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smith&wesson
04-18-2019, 06:42 PM
I wasnít concerned about the 76ers until we traded Jonas away. Now Iím worried about Embiid, whoís gonna stop him ?

Chronz
04-18-2019, 07:26 PM
I wasnít concerned about the 76ers until we traded Jonas away. Now Iím worried about Embiid, whoís gonna stop him ?
R u joking?

WaDe03
04-18-2019, 10:32 PM
R u joking?

No these raptors fans are something else.

aman_13
04-19-2019, 03:18 AM
Battle of 2 very medicocre franchises.So is your spelling hehe

Nonetheless, if Toronto is what you call it, then I enjoy mediocrity. I like winning.

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aman_13
04-19-2019, 03:18 AM
I wasnít concerned about the 76ers until we traded Jonas away. Now Iím worried about Embiid, whoís gonna stop him ?I think Marc will do just fine :)

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aman_13
04-19-2019, 03:20 AM
No these raptors fans are something else.Thanks!

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smith&wesson
04-19-2019, 10:20 AM
No these raptors fans are something else.

You seem to have a boner for us so we must be something

smith&wesson
04-19-2019, 10:20 AM
R u joking?

Not at all check jonasí numbers against Embiid ... itís surprising but he matches up really well against him, same with Drummond and Cousins.

WaDe03
04-19-2019, 11:07 AM
You seem to have a boner for us so we must be something

Canít get rid of it for some reason.

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 12:40 PM
You seem to have a boner for us so we must be something

It's me. He can't handle the mental beatdowns I give him every time we have an exchange so now he's trying to troll Raptor threads. He literally posted in here after his feelings were hurt in the "Farewell Wade" thread. He'll get tired if you just ignore him.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 12:40 PM
I wasnít concerned about the 76ers until we traded Jonas away. Now Iím worried about Embiid, whoís gonna stop him ?I'm with you. Jonas is much more physical and has taken Embiid out of his game pretty much every time weve played them.

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R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 12:43 PM
I'm with you. Jonas is much more physical and has taken Embiid out of his game pretty much every time weve played them.

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Joel has never shot above 40% or scored more than 15 points when facing Gasol.

WaDe03
04-19-2019, 01:01 PM
It's me. He can't handle the mental beatdowns I give him every time we have an exchange so now he's trying to troll Raptor threads. He literally posted in here after his feelings were hurt in the "Farewell Wade" thread. He'll get tired if you just ignore him.

Itís actually JamieC, I like messing with but him. Iíve clowned your *** I many times itís not even funny.

WaDe03
04-19-2019, 01:02 PM
Joel has never shot above 40% or scored more than 15 points when facing Gasol.

Lmao!

Bostonjorge
04-19-2019, 06:42 PM
Gasol is better fit for Toronto. Gasol is used as a role player and always looks to pass first. He's always on the perimeter and donít clog the inside for Siakam to get to the basket. Gasol is just a much better fit.

Jonas canít pass like Gasol can and Jonas didnít want to be a role player. Jonas wanted touchís in the post and heís getting them in Memphis. All of Jonas touches in Toronto are now Siakams who is clearly a better player then Jonas.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 07:10 PM
Lmao!

pretty sure he meant Jonas.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 07:11 PM
Damn are they bitter at Shaq in Orlando or what. Pregame video made mention of "all-stars, superstars, and hall of famers". Showed Shaq when they said all-stars, Penny at superstars, and McGrady at HOF.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 07:15 PM
McGrady you ****ing traitor

zn23
04-19-2019, 07:54 PM
Magic have a good strategy, basically just help off of Serge because he can't make wide open shots.

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 07:55 PM
pretty sure he meant Jonas.

No, I meant Gasol. He owns Embiid

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.fcgi?id=JDjPw

Edit: I'm talking about defensively. I'm aware Gasol doesn't do well against Embiid either but he stops him.

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 08:33 PM
4 fouls on Gasol now with the last 2 being pretty questionable.

Cal827
04-19-2019, 08:34 PM
I see that the Raptor fan I fight with most and the Heat guy are here.

HIII JAMIE/WADE & JOHNSON :D

Heediot
04-19-2019, 08:38 PM
****ing ibaka. once he enters vujevic gets double digits on him. dude is hot garbage right now.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 08:44 PM
No, I meant Gasol. He owns Embiid

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.fcgi?id=JDjPw

Edit: I'm talking about defensively. I'm aware Gasol doesn't do well against Embiid either but he stops him.

my bad, i got you and smith confused.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 08:45 PM
I see that the Raptor fan I fight with most and the Heat guy are here.

HIII JAMIE/WADE & JOHNSON :D

you must be an easy one to get along with guy, we chat what 2 times a year?

Cal827
04-19-2019, 08:51 PM
you must be an easy one to get along with guy, we chat what 2 times a year?

:laugh2: well I've learned enough from sports stuff that whatever I think would happen, the exact opposite does...

You should see my hockey pool, it's gone up in flames faster that the Notr... (Too soon)

Besides, I can't get mad at your dedication to Kawhi in the Raptor forum :laugh2:

Deep down we're all fans of the game, and have positions on sports topics that we feel are valid, and it's all good.

Except Vee-Rex and Tredigs.... **** those guys (I swear I'm not bitter about badly losing the mini-NBA pool we had last year :laugh2: )

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 08:52 PM
Pascal has been amazing this series.

Heediot
04-19-2019, 08:53 PM
siakim going to be more beast next year!

zn23
04-19-2019, 08:55 PM
My boy Siakam does it again.

He's way better than Aaron Gordon!

Heediot
04-19-2019, 08:55 PM
why was thre shot clock turned off? shouldn't it have been reset to 14 on the offensive board?

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 09:04 PM
MCW loses his cool so easily.

zn23
04-19-2019, 09:19 PM
That wide open miss by Gasol was god awful. Now it is a 7 point game.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 09:25 PM
i can't remember ever complaining about officials before so forgive me - what the hell does Kawhi have to do to get a call driving to the basket

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 09:30 PM
kyle lowry just always wants it more :)

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 09:30 PM
Lowry with a huge offensive rebound there.

Jamiecballer
04-19-2019, 09:33 PM
thank you sweet baby jesus

R. Johnson#3
04-19-2019, 09:34 PM
Kawhi got no love from the refs but his 1st half was just flat out bad. Good thing we still won with him putting up a stinker.

aman_13
04-19-2019, 09:43 PM
That game never should have been that close. How did the Raptors only have 10 free throws?

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zn23
04-19-2019, 10:18 PM
One of the reasons the Magic have had issues reaching the next level is the lack of development of Aaron Gordon. You see the potential he has in games but he just can't reach it.

Cal827
04-20-2019, 12:40 AM
Free Throw difference:

Toronto: 41
Orlando: 67

:laugh2: Full on conspiracy theorists are gonna jump on this one

But all in all, the Raptors need to be a bit more careful on their checks with Orlando, mainly with the reach ins. I am loving their suffocating defense though.

But yeah zn does have a point, Gordon has seemed to regress (at least statistically) this season. For the Orlando fans around, is it more because of the system, and he's actually improving on his tangibles. From the game's I've seen, his defense has looked better than before and from what I last recall, his Defensive Win Shares were pretty good.

WaDe03
04-20-2019, 04:22 PM
Damn are they bitter at Shaq in Orlando or what. Pregame video made mention of "all-stars, superstars, and hall of famers". Showed Shaq when they said all-stars, Penny at superstars, and McGrady at HOF.

Penny was good but heís one of the most overrated players ever imo.

cmellofan15
04-20-2019, 09:27 PM
Penny was good but heís one of the most overrated players ever imo.

Amazing shoes tho

Heediot
04-21-2019, 08:34 PM
One of the reasons the Magic have had issues reaching the next level is the lack of development of Aaron Gordon. You see the potential he has in games but he just can't reach it.

He's come a long way. He came into the league with just athleticism. His shot and even handles have improved. He's far from perfect but I think he has developed fin from his slot and how he was projected to be.

Siakim is another story. He is the type of late pick steal that can help catapult a franchise.

R. Johnson#3
04-21-2019, 09:00 PM
Kawhi is really something else.

aman_13
04-21-2019, 09:09 PM
Kawhi is really something else.He's special and it's almost criminal how much defenses get away with fouling him. Just because he doesn't flop, he doesn't get to the line like he should.

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zn23
04-21-2019, 09:14 PM
The Raps haven't had a superstar of this level since VC. Bosh wasn't this good.

R. Johnson#3
04-21-2019, 09:16 PM
The Raps haven't had a superstar of this level since VC. Bosh wasn't this good.

We've never had a superstar of this level. VC was a star but not even close to Kawhi.

zn23
04-21-2019, 09:24 PM
We've never had a superstar of this level. VC was a star but not even close to Kawhi.

True.

zn23
04-21-2019, 09:32 PM
I think Kawhi knows deep down that Toronto is the place he should stay. He's got a young future All-star in Siakam. A steady PG in Lowry, A solid bench, good coaching, good front office. I get that the weather is bad during the Winter, but he's not going to find a situation this good with the Clippers.

aman_13
04-21-2019, 10:02 PM
I think Kawhi knows deep down that Toronto is the place he should stay. He's got a young future All-star in Siakam. A steady PG in Lowry, A solid bench, good coaching, good front office. I get that the weather is bad during the Winter, but he's not going to find a situation this good with the Clippers.The weather is really only an issue for 2 months in the season. It's so hard to read him. There are days where I think he will stay and there are other times thanks to the media mostly, I think he's leaving.

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R. Johnson#3
04-21-2019, 10:53 PM
I'm just enjoying the ride because like I said before, we've never had a player like Kawhi.

aman_13
04-21-2019, 11:19 PM
I'm just enjoying the ride because like I said before, we've never had a player like Kawhi.Yeah I'm taking the same approach.

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Rivera
04-22-2019, 10:18 AM
Pascal has been amazing this series.

i dont think amazing is the word. Dude has been a superstar this series. Is there anything he cant do? No one talks about the scary potential he has! As much as trading DD for KL is a big difference, Siakam's growth is just as big!


One of the reasons the Magic have had issues reaching the next level is the lack of development of Aaron Gordon. You see the potential he has in games but he just can't reach it.

Somewhat true. He has grown and gotten better. Hes a much better defender this year than any other year. AG finally has his money too. He has superstar potential, but hes really a slightly worse version of Tobias Harris: better vertical and without the PNR smarts.



Penny was good but heís one of the most overrated players ever imo.

Hey, HEy, HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT Disrespect Penny!!!!!!!!!! I gave Wade love!

ewing
04-22-2019, 10:22 AM
good to know. I wouldnt agree personally, but I understand and respect you bringing this knowledge to me.

im surprised you guys are concerned about Philly. Without looking at any numbers, havent you guys owned Philly the last 2 regular seasons? Granted i know regular season success doesnt mean much but im just wondering

I agree I think the Raps are match up nightmare for the Sixers. The have a star player that can help you control pace, guys that can match up with Ben physically, and a monster waiting at the basket for him. Joel will need to be absolutely huge for the Sixers and Marc wonít make it easy for him.


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Vee-Rex
04-22-2019, 10:28 AM
I agree I think the Raps are match up nightmare for the Sixers. The have a star player that can help you control pace, guys that can match up with Ben physically, and a monster waiting at the basket for him. Joel will need to be absolutely huge for the Sixers and Marc wonít make it easy for him.


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To be honest the Raps are a matchup nightmare for just about anyone.

The way Siakam has been playing makes me feel this team might actually has a legit shot at a championship. I love that freaking kid.

Rivera
04-22-2019, 10:38 AM
To be honest the Raps are a matchup nightmare for just about anyone.

The way Siakam has been playing makes me feel this team might actually has a legit shot at a championship. I love that freaking kid.

agreed! I was convinced somewhere in the middle of the season Toronto is coming out of the east this year. They matchup with everyone, and will provide the top of the east problems.

GSW v Toronto would be fire works

FlakeyFool
04-23-2019, 08:58 AM
I think Kawhi knows deep down that Toronto is the place he should stay. He's got a young future All-star in Siakam. A steady PG in Lowry, A solid bench, good coaching, good front office. I get that the weather is bad during the Winter, but he's not going to find a situation this good with the Clippers.

Maybe he'll do the 1+1

zn23
04-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Vucevic has been completely shut down this series.

More-Than-Most
04-23-2019, 10:08 PM
Vucevic has been completely shut down this series.

Enter the Embiid.

R. Johnson#3
04-23-2019, 10:48 PM
Enter the Embiid.

Yeah, Gasol owns him on defence as well.

More-Than-Most
04-23-2019, 10:54 PM
Yeah, Gasol owns him on defence as well.

different embiid... our coach has been using him like he should be used... no more ben inside joel outside bull ****... the key to the series will be ben simmons though... KL had flat out destroyed him.... ben has 24 turnovers in his last 3 games against the raptors. TNT chuck just said it best... last time they played ben became scared to even dribble because KL was within 5 feet of him lol

R. Johnson#3
04-23-2019, 11:12 PM
different embiid... our coach has been using him like he should be used... no more ben inside joel outside bull ****... the key to the series will be ben simmons though... KL had flat out destroyed him.... ben has 24 turnovers in his last 3 games against the raptors. TNT chuck just said it best... last time they played ben became scared to even dribble because KL was within 5 feet of him lol

Yup we match up incredibly well with you guys defensively and Kawhi has a villa in Simmons' head. Simmons has looked like a different animal since game 1 but the Nets don't match up at all with the Sixers. Kawhi has been a monster so far and we've only allowed 100 points once this post season. It's going to be a fun series to watch. I wonder/hope Joel is going to talk some **** before the series starts.

Even with Embiid being used properly he's now going to deal with someone his own size who's also a seasoned vet. On top of that his knee isn't 100%.

ewing
04-23-2019, 11:29 PM
different embiid... our coach has been using him like he should be used... no more ben inside joel outside bull ****... the key to the series will be ben simmons though... KL had flat out destroyed him.... ben has 24 turnovers in his last 3 games against the raptors. TNT chuck just said it best... last time they played ben became scared to even dribble because KL was within 5 feet of him lol

Or he is playing better


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More-Than-Most
04-23-2019, 11:37 PM
Or he is playing better


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nope... you can keep trying to give the coach the benefit of the doubt but its clear as day... the only time simmons goes inside now is when embiid rests and butler runs point... literally everything i screamed about with brett he has finally done so far

no TJ even though you think and others in the sixers area thinks he is good
butler at point which needed to happen way way sooner
no more joel being forced outside and ben inside because ben cant shoot
and more man to man defense.

bucketss
04-24-2019, 12:15 AM
feels good.

Cal827
04-25-2019, 12:57 AM
The x-factor between the Philly/Toronto series will probably be Jimmy Butler. Butler has put up monster games in the past vs the Raptors, and as long as his teammates are performing adequately, philly will have good chance of winning this series. The Raptors need to make sure they have a proper defender on him. I know Kawhi will probably watch Simmons, but they need another long body for Butler :laugh2: