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valade16
03-19-2019, 06:33 PM
So I was just looking at some stats and I was amazed by how great a year 1993-1994 was for Centers.

The top 3 scorers were Centers (D-Rob 29.8, Shaq 29.3, Hakeem 27.3) and 5/10 scorers were C's (Ewing 6th, Zo 10th).

3 of the top 4 players by PER were Centers (D-Rob 30.7, Shaq 28.5, Hakeem 25.3 and Ewing 22.9) with 3/4 by BPM also being C's.

4 of the top 5 highest vote totals for MVP were Centers (Hakeem, D-Rob, Shaq, Ewing)

The top 3 vote totals for DPOY were Centers (Hakeem, D-Rob, Dikembe).


Essentially you had Shaq, Hakeem, D-Rob, Ewing, Alonzo and Dikembe all playing extremely well in the same year.

Is that the best individual, singular season for Centers ever (or what other ones are superior) and what is the best year for other positions?

Redrum187
03-20-2019, 12:15 AM
Power Forward: 2002-2003
Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett playing out of their minds in their prime.

I know a lot of you like the chucker Chris Webber, that prick was a 20/10 player as well in this time. Pau Gasol was also a 19/9 guy in 2002-2003. Elton Brand was 19/11. Shawn Marion was a 21/10 guy but I think he was playing SF mostly at that time.

Tg11
03-20-2019, 11:41 AM
2000-01

Allen Iverson at the point guard position without question

valade16
03-20-2019, 11:49 AM
Power Forward: 2002-2003
Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett playing out of their minds in their prime.

I know a lot of you like the chucker Chris Webber, that prick was a 20/10 player as well in this time. Pau Gasol was also a 19/9 guy in 2002-2003. Elton Brand was 19/11. Shawn Marion was a 21/10 guy but I think he was playing SF mostly at that time.

Good find! 4/10 All-NBA 1st and 2nd teamers that year were PFs. You also still had old man Malone averaging 20 PPG in his last year with Utah.

YAALREADYKNO
03-20-2019, 12:42 PM
Power Forward: 2002-2003
Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett playing out of their minds in their prime.

I know a lot of you like the chucker Chris Webber, that prick was a 20/10 player as well in this time. Pau Gasol was also a 19/9 guy in 2002-2003. Elton Brand was 19/11. Shawn Marion was a 21/10 guy but I think he was playing SF mostly at that time.

The PF position in the early to mid 00s was FOOKEN crazy

look! big kids
03-20-2019, 04:24 PM
This decade has been for the small forward position what the '90s were for the Center and the 2000s were for the Power Forward. You could make an argument for the past 12-month period as being the most dominant:

- LeBron with one of the most impressive postseasons in NBA history
- Durant winning his second straight FMVP
- Giannis's larger-than-life incarnation, top record in the league, likely MVP (even if mostly at the four these days)
- Paul George having his peak season, and probably a top-3 MVP finish
- Kawhi in his prime, leading the second best team in the league

All five are in the top 8 in scoring. Their basic numbers for 2018-19:

LBJ 27.5 - 8.5r - 8.0a, TS% .593
KD 27.2 - 6.6 - 5.7, TS% .625
Giannis 27.5 - 12.7 - 6.0, TS% .643
PG 28.3 - 8.2 - 4.2, TS% .587
Kawhi 27.1 - 7.4 - 3.2, TS% .608

Jimmy Butler's still lying around somewhere along with some other SF's having breakout seasons, but the top-heaviness of the position is absurd.

ewing
03-20-2019, 04:30 PM
This decade has been for the small forward position what the '90s were for the Center and the 2000s were for the Power Forward. You could make an argument for the past 12-month period as being the most dominant:

- LeBron with one of the most impressive postseasons in NBA history
- Durant winning his second straight FMVP
- Giannis's larger-than-life incarnation, top record in the league, likely MVP (even if mostly at the four these days)
- Paul George having his peak season, and probably a top-3 MVP finish
- Kawhi in his prime, leading the second best team in the league

All five are in the top 8 in scoring. Their basic numbers for 2018-19:

LBJ 27.5 - 8.5r - 8.0a, TS% .593
KD 27.2 - 6.6 - 5.7, TS% .625
Giannis 27.5 - 12.7 - 6.0, TS% .643
PG 28.3 - 8.2 - 4.2, TS% .587
Kawhi 27.1 - 7.4 - 3.2, TS% .608

Jimmy Butler's still lying around somewhere along with some other SF's having breakout seasons, but the top-heaviness of the position is absurd.

Where did your user name originate? Its one of the better ones I've seen

look! big kids
03-20-2019, 04:55 PM
Where did your user name originate? Its one of the better ones I've seen

Glad you think so, haha. No references there, it's really just poking fun at all of you.

Chronz
03-20-2019, 06:18 PM
I tend to think the late 60's early 70's era was best for bigs, partly due to the smaller league but you cant really point to one individual year.

1969 was Russells final year but the very next year in comes Kareem. You would normally go with that year but thats when Wilt goes down with a career altering injury. They still had some great battles but I think you could top those 2 with some Shaq-Hakeem-Drob-Ewing-Zo years.

ewing
03-20-2019, 10:57 PM
I tend to think the late 60's early 70's era was best for bigs, partly due to the smaller league but you cant really point to one individual year.

1969 was Russells final year but the very next year in comes Kareem. You would normally go with that year but thats when Wilt goes down with a career altering injury. They still had some great battles but I think you could top those 2 with some Shaq-Hakeem-Drob-Ewing-Zo years.

Gotta go with the Ewing years. Clearly the most dominant defensive player of the modern era and he is the 3rd best on that list.


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Redrum187
03-21-2019, 08:06 PM
Point-Guard is really tough... I'll give it a shot...
2009-2010

Chris Paul: 19/11/4 (All Star)
Steve Nash: 17/11/3 (All Star)
Jason Kidd: 10/9/6 (All Star)
Deron Williams: 19/11/4 (All Star)
Chauncey Billups: 20/3/6 (All Star)
Rajon Rondo: 14/4/10 (All Star)
Derrick Rose: 21/4/6 (All Star)
Allen Iverson: 14/3/4 (All Star)
Stephen Curry: 18/5/6
Russell Westbrook: 16/5/8

5 of the top 10 best Point-Guards in NBA history. Not all of them were in their prime but were worthy of being All Stars with the exception of Allen Iverson. I don't consider Westbrook a top 10 Point-Guard, but I think many others do.

Cracka2HI!
03-21-2019, 11:29 PM
Maybe Jordan's last year for SG's? 97-98 doesn't have many players in their prime but it's a good mix of guys who were putting up big numbers or were elite role players. MJ, Mitch Richmond, Iverson(if you consider him one), Steve Smith, J.R. Rider, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Clyde Drexler, Allan Houston(pre-injury/contract), Kerry Kittles, Eddie Jones, Doug Christie, Jerry Stackhouse, Jim Jackson and a 2nd year Kobe Bryant. They are listed in order of PPG for that season. I wasn't gonna put that much effort into it lol.

Chronz
03-22-2019, 01:31 AM
Man this topic is alot harder than I originally thought. I took mostly a subjective approach, looking at which years the PG's beat out the SG's for All-NBA spots and vice versa. Looking at some of the top offensive RAPM seasons in recorded history, Nash in 07 stands out as the strongest (the year he deserved MVP but didn't get it). Scoring 1's like Baron Davis and Arenas were a glimpse of what was to come. Im still working on figuring out if its more important to have league wide dominance or simply the best of the best, like strongest top-5 or 10 All-Time.

hidalgo
03-27-2019, 07:18 AM
Maybe Jordan's last year for SG's? 97-98 doesn't have many players in their prime but it's a good mix of guys who were putting up big numbers or were elite role players. MJ, Mitch Richmond, Iverson(if you consider him one), Steve Smith, J.R. Rider, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Clyde Drexler, Allan Houston(pre-injury/contract), Kerry Kittles, Eddie Jones, Doug Christie, Jerry Stackhouse, Jim Jackson and a 2nd year Kobe Bryant. They are listed in order of PPG for that season. I wasn't gonna put that much effort into it lol.
good call here for SGs

i'd just add Sprewell

hidalgo
03-27-2019, 07:26 AM
agreed. 1994 if i had to pick 1 year for centers. they were so good in the 90s