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LaVar Ball
03-19-2019, 11:19 AM
Just look at their line from last night at home against the Nuggets. And they were without Gordon Hayward so can't pile the excuse of Hayward stunting the growth of the young core.


Jayson 'The Savior/Messiah' Tatum: 36 min, 3-12 FG, 1-5 3s, 1-2 FTs, 8 pt, 7reb, 6asst, 1st, 1 blk


Jaylen Brown: 20 min, 2-6 FGs, 1-4 3s, 1-2 FTs, 6 pts, 4 rebs, 1 asst, 2 stls


Terry 'Scary' Rozier: 21 min, 3-9 FGs, 1-6 3s, 7 pts, 2 rebs, 2 assts, 1 blk


How is this package with picks any more attractive for an Anthony Davis deal than the Lakers' offer of Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and what is presumed to be a 2019 lotto pick and other future picks?

valade16
03-19-2019, 11:46 AM
Just look at their line from last night at home against the Nuggets. And they were without Gordon Hayward so can't pile the excuse of Hayward stunting the growth of the young core.

Jayson 'The Savior/Messiah' Tatum: 36 min, 3-12 FG, 1-5 3s, 1-2 FTs, 8 pt, 7reb, 6asst, 1st, 1 blk

Jaylen Brown: 20 min, 2-6 FGs, 1-4 3s, 1-2 FTs, 6 pts, 4 rebs, 1 asst, 2 stls

Terry 'Scary' Rozier: 21 min, 3-9 FGs, 1-6 3s, 7 pts, 2 rebs, 2 assts, 1 blk

How is this package with picks any more attractive for an Anthony Davis deal than the Lakers' offer of Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and what is presumed to be a 2019 lotto pick and other future picks?

Well let's look at the Laker's last boxscore:

Lonzo Ball: DNP - Injured
Brandon Ingram: DNP - Injured
Kyle Kuzma: 18 pts, 0 rbs, 8 asts, -17 +/-
Josh Hart: 1/5, 2 pts


That doesn't look much better...

LaVar Ball
03-19-2019, 11:48 AM
Well let's look at the Laker's last boxscore:

Lonzo Ball: DNP - Injured
Brandon Ingram: DNP - Injured
Kyle Kuzma: 18 pts, 0 rbs, 8 asts, -17 +/-
Josh Hart: 1/5, 2 pts


That doesn't look much better...

Lakers are tanking, nothing to play for. They've shut down Ingram (DVT) and Lonzo (Pikcs)


Celtics are playing for a championship. This 'young core' was 1 win away from reaching the finals without Kyrie and Gordon. But all of a sudden this year ? ....... what happening??!!?!? OMG..... they getting exposed!!!!! They're system players!!!!!

valade16
03-19-2019, 12:08 PM
Lakers are tanking, nothing to play for. They've shut down Ingram (DVT) and Lonzo (Pikcs)

Celtics are playing for a championship. This 'young core' was 1 win away from reaching the finals without Kyrie and Gordon. But all of a sudden this year ? ....... what happening??!!?!? OMG..... they getting exposed!!!!! They're system players!!!!!

So your defense of the Lakers players is they were so bad this season their team sucks and has nothing to play for meanwhile the Celtics players were so good they are pursuing a championship?

Solid argument.

Redrum187
03-19-2019, 12:13 PM
So your defense of the Lakers players is they were so bad this season their team sucks and has nothing to play for meanwhile the Celtics players were so good they are pursuing a championship?

Solid argument.

lol Jesus Christ

Redrum187
03-19-2019, 12:16 PM
Lakers are tanking, nothing to play for. They've shut down Ingram (DVT) and Lonzo (Pikcs)


Celtics are playing for a championship. This 'young core' was 1 win away from reaching the finals without Kyrie and Gordon. But all of a sudden this year ? ....... what happening??!!?!? OMG..... they getting exposed!!!!! They're system players!!!!!

I'll take the Celtic's "system players" quite easily especially considering Ingram's future health concerns. I was/still am a little bit interested in Ingram, but his recent health concerns really deflated a lot of hype he once had. I don't like Kuzma much either honestly... I do like Hart and feel if he can get back to his rookie season production, he'd be a nice piece for any team. I was higher on Hart last offseason than I was on Jaylen Brown interestingly enough. Both are disappointments this year sadly.

IndyRealist
03-19-2019, 12:24 PM
All "young cores" all overrated because fans buy into hype.

The Boston core has at least done something.

AntiG
03-19-2019, 12:54 PM
calling them system players is hilarious... Tatum and Brown have issues because they aren't an ideal fit for Stevens' system. Tatum is a ball-dominant iso player that has to step back in the system, hence why his scoring is inconsistent. Brown is a guy that needs to get set up on backdoor cuts and attack dribble position, but ends up stuck being a spot up shooter in the system making him also inconsistent. Rozier is actually a good fit for the system but due to Kyrie being the starter he doesn't get to start or get the minutes he needs, disrupting his rhythm. A lot of this too is due to having too many starting quality players and trying get everyone some PT (Irving, Horford, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Smart, Rozier, Hayward, Baynes and even Theis & Ojeyele who have proven that they can be above average starters when needed over the past couple of seasons) in the rotation which ends up hurting consistency and chemistry. That's why the Celtics this year are all over the place.

Chronz
03-19-2019, 12:55 PM
The term System players has become the new specialists diss I used to hear in the 90s.

Chronz
03-19-2019, 12:56 PM
calling them system players is hilarious... Tatum and Brown have issues because they aren't an ideal fit for Stevens' system. Tatum is a ball-dominant iso player that has to step back in the system, hence why his scoring is inconsistent. Brown is a guy that needs to get set up on backdoor cuts and attack dribble position, but ends up stuck being a spot up shooter in the system making him also inconsistent. Rozier is actually a good fit for the system but due to Kyrie being the starter he doesn't get to start or get the minutes he needs, disrupting his rhythm. A lot of this too is due to having too many starting quality players and trying get everyone some PT (Irving, Horford, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Smart, Rozier, Hayward, Baynes and even Theis & Ojeyele who have proven that they can be above average starters when needed over the past couple of seasons) in the rotation which ends up hurting consistency and chemistry. That's why the Celtics this year are all over the place.
Hubie Brown wouldve made it work

AntiG
03-19-2019, 01:06 PM
Hubie Brown wouldve made it work

we'll see how they'll do in the playoffs. they are still making it work, they are just very Jekyll & Hyde this season, one day they are blowing a lead against the Nets, the next they are blowing out the Warriors in Oakland.

mightybosstone
03-19-2019, 01:35 PM
Cool. I was just thinking about how badly we needed another thread for Lakers fans and Celtics fans to debate whose "young core" was better based on insanely small sample sizes. Love to see that the diversity of posts has gotten so much better in my absence. :pity:

R. Johnson#3
03-19-2019, 03:34 PM
So your defense of the Lakers players is they were so bad this season their team sucks and has nothing to play for meanwhile the Celtics players were so good they are pursuing a championship?

Solid argument.

You win the thread.