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Driven
02-07-2019, 02:54 PM
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02-07-2019, 02:54 PM
holy ****

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02-07-2019, 02:54 PM
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Memphis is finalizing a trade to send center Marc Gasol to Toronto, league sources tell ESPN. Details soon.

IndyRealist
02-07-2019, 02:55 PM
I give up. Sheesh.

mgomrjsurf
02-07-2019, 02:55 PM
maybe Conley is in it or Parsons.

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-07-2019, 02:56 PM
This is big for Toronto. They are really going for it.

Driven
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02-07-2019, 02:58 PM
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YAALREADYKNO
02-07-2019, 02:58 PM
Damn wonder what they gave up

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02-07-2019, 02:59 PM
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Toronto is planning to send Jonas Valanciunas, Delon Wright, CJ Milles and a 2024 second-round pick to the the Grizzlies for Gasol, league sources tell ESPN.

Heediot
02-07-2019, 02:59 PM
nevermind.

mgomrjsurf
02-07-2019, 03:00 PM
Conley and Parsons to Magic for Augustin,Ross and so on?

Driven
02-07-2019, 03:00 PM
Bucks get Mirotic, Raptors counter with an even bigger move. The race to the finals in the East will be interesting. Philly with Harris now, too.

R. Johnson#3
02-07-2019, 03:02 PM
Itís a good trade but Iím really going to miss JV. Come playoff time when everything breaks down he was Mr. Reliable. His inside scoring presence really gets overlooked.

mgomrjsurf
02-07-2019, 03:03 PM
Bucks could still make another move.

aman_13
02-07-2019, 03:03 PM
Woow

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Tg11
02-07-2019, 03:04 PM
Gasol gives the Raptors defensive depth

AI
02-07-2019, 03:04 PM
Toronto is stacked, jeez.

kdspurman
02-07-2019, 03:06 PM
:o

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D-Leethal
02-07-2019, 03:07 PM
The Eastern battle to get swept by the Warriors will be fun at least.

mgomrjsurf
02-07-2019, 03:07 PM
Bradley to Grizzles.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-07-2019, 03:07 PM
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Im_in_Mia_bish
02-07-2019, 03:08 PM
Gasol, Kawhi, Ibaka is an amazing defensive trio. Wow.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-07-2019, 03:08 PM
My bad I missed this thread. Mods can ya delete my thread or merge it here?

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-07-2019, 03:09 PM
The Eastern battle to get swept by the Warriors will be fun at least.

You must be high, raptors are def favs IMO. They got a HUGE boost defensively.

aman_13
02-07-2019, 03:09 PM
They didn't give up OG and Siakam and traded two guys who were barley rotation players. Sucks to see JV go but this was a great trade.

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Heediot
02-07-2019, 03:10 PM
Gasol, Kawhi, Ibaka is an amazing defensive trio. Wow.

Siakim in the front court too.

OG, Green, Lowry.

Pretty stacked defensive team.

ewing
02-07-2019, 03:10 PM
The NBA should get rid of 20 teams. Just have 10.

zn23
02-07-2019, 03:13 PM
I'd rather keep JV and have him come off the bench.

I would've preferred if the Raps got Conley instead.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-07-2019, 03:13 PM
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Im_in_Mia_bish
02-07-2019, 03:14 PM
I'd rather keep JV and have him come off the bench.

I would've preferred if the Raps got Conley instead.

Lol what? JV played literally no defense. With Gasol and Ibaka anchoring the defense, Kawhi is about to dog on the opposing wings.

Yikes.

aman_13
02-07-2019, 03:15 PM
I'd rather keep JV and have him come off the bench.

I would've preferred if the Raps got Conley instead.JV is not a reliable offensive scorer and hurts the Raptors defensively. He's really good but Marc is a huge upgrade.

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Tg11
02-07-2019, 03:15 PM
Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka, OG, Lowry, Kawhi is a pretty nice set up

Heediot
02-07-2019, 03:16 PM
Marc is a stud passing big. He'll help the flow of the offense.

D-Leethal
02-07-2019, 03:16 PM
You must be high, raptors are def favs IMO. They got a HUGE boost defensively.

Favorites to beat the Warriors? Or win the East?

I would agree that they are favorites to win the East, and honestly I'll be rooting for them to do so, but they are gonna still get smacked by the Warriors. And I wouldn't consider them HEAVY favorites to beat the Bucks/Sixers.

Tg11
02-07-2019, 03:18 PM
If Raptors end up going after another name during this Deadline I'll be shocked if they land another name

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-07-2019, 03:19 PM
Favorites to beat the Warriors? Or win the East?

I would agree that they are favorites to win the East, and honestly I'll be rooting for them to do so, but they are gonna still get smacked by the Warriors. And I wouldn't consider them HEAVY favorites to beat the Bucks/Sixers.

Def favs to come out of the east and be HUGE tough out even against the warriors.

Letís see how they play, but the potential for the raptors is to be dominant on the defensive end. Good enough to win the title.

Tg11
02-07-2019, 03:20 PM
Raptors just became that much better defensively

TakeYourL
02-07-2019, 03:20 PM
Eastern conference playoffs gonna be so lit.

They ain't even trying in the west.

Hustla23
02-07-2019, 03:20 PM
Favorites to beat the Warriors? Or win the East?

I would agree that they are favorites to win the East, and honestly I'll be rooting for them to do so, but they are gonna still get smacked by the Warriors. And I wouldn't consider them HEAVY favorites to beat the Bucks/Sixers.

Dude, playoffs Kawhi is an animal. He had the Spurs up by almost 30 against the Warriors before Zaza injured him.

Give him Lowry, Gasol, and solid role players and they definitely have a real shot. A better shot than the Cavs did last year even.

Hustla23
02-07-2019, 03:21 PM
Also, why did Memphis do this trade? lol Jonas is only 26 I get it, but he's going to get you some wins I think.

Should have asked for first round picks IMO.

bootsy
02-07-2019, 03:22 PM
Gasol is washed.

Jamiecballer
02-07-2019, 03:22 PM
I'd rather keep JV and have him come off the bench.

I would've preferred if the Raps got Conley instead.Yeah, I'm a little disappointed. Mildly hopeful, but disappointed nonetheless. JV was an insanely efficient weapon offensively. The only player in franchise history with a higher career ws/48 is Kawhi Leonard.

My immediate concern is our rebounding is a huge issue

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MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-07-2019, 03:23 PM
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bleedprple&gold
02-07-2019, 03:24 PM
Garbage trade for Memphis not getting OG, Siakam, or a 1st. Should've just let Gasol walk.

Heediot
02-07-2019, 03:25 PM
Yeah, I'm a little disappointed. Mildly hopeful, but disappointed nonetheless. JV was an insanely efficient weapon offensively. The only player in franchise history with a higher career ws/48 is Kawhi Leonard.

My immediate concern is our rebounding is a huge issue

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We needed to get players for the half court game in the playoffs and end of games. I like the pick up, he is used to playing the slower game with his experience at Memphis.

He gives us more options D as well, and his passing will blend in well.

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02-07-2019, 03:26 PM
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PAOboston
02-07-2019, 03:29 PM
Donít really get this trade. Toronto trades some of their depth that made them so good on the bench for Gasol. Gasol is still a useful player but Iím not sure this really moves the needle for Toronto.


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WaDe03
02-07-2019, 03:29 PM
Gasol is washed.

No heís not. Way better than what they gave up.

Chronz
02-07-2019, 03:29 PM
The NBA should get rid of 20 teams. Just have 10.

Or give picks to teams in a lotto tournament

IndyRealist
02-07-2019, 03:31 PM
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That's kind of silly. Depth is great for the regular season, but for the playoffs you need the strongest top 6 you can. That's where the Raptors faltered so often.

Heediot
02-07-2019, 03:31 PM
Or give picks to teams in a lotto tournament

NBA should do something to make every game count. It'll make a better product and might even encourage better defense.

Chronz
02-07-2019, 03:32 PM
Also, why did Memphis do this trade? lol Jonas is only 26 I get it, but he's going to get you some wins I think.

Should have asked for first round picks IMO.

I think they have to be at a certain level of bad idk tho

Chronz
02-07-2019, 03:33 PM
Lol what? JV played literally no defense. With Gasol and Ibaka anchoring the defense, Kawhi is about to dog on the opposing wings.

Yikes.
Thought Ibaka was thriving at the 5. Is it smart to put him at the 4

aman_13
02-07-2019, 03:35 PM
Donít really get this trade. Toronto trades some of their depth that made them so good on the bench for Gasol. Gasol is still a useful player but Iím not sure this really moves the needle for Toronto.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI don't think the Raptors will miss Delon or CJ. Especially CJ, who was barely getting minutes. They could use another pg. We'll see how the buyout market plays out. But they didn't give up much from their depth.

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02-07-2019, 03:35 PM
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Heediot
02-07-2019, 03:36 PM
Thought Ibaka was thriving at the 5. Is it smart to put him at the 4

Ibaka's going to be the backup and possible spot starting depending on the match-ups. That's what they did when Jonas was healthy, but with Marc there now I think he'll log a tonne more backup 5 minutes.

aman_13
02-07-2019, 03:36 PM
Thought Ibaka was thriving at the 5. Is it smart to put him at the 4He will likely come off the bench.

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Tg11
02-07-2019, 03:36 PM
Gasol you can play him at the 4 or the 5 because he's a combo but I think Gasol you can play him at the 5 and have Siakam at the 4 and Ibaka comes off the bench for the 2nd unit

Jamiecballer
02-07-2019, 03:37 PM
Thought Ibaka was thriving at the 5. Is it smart to put him at the 4I was going to ask which one is coming off the bench

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Jamiecballer
02-07-2019, 03:39 PM
The more I think about this the less excited I am. The teams 2 biggest weaknesses are rebounding and 3 point shooting and they are now really exposed. Must be counting on a buyout candidate for 3 point shooting.

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PAOboston
02-07-2019, 03:44 PM
I don't think the Raptors will miss Delon or CJ. Especially CJ, who was barely getting minutes. They could use another pg. We'll see how the buyout market plays out. But they didn't give up much from their depth.

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Still, donít think Gasol moves the needle thaaaat much. And I like Gasol.


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IndyRealist
02-07-2019, 03:45 PM
The more I think about this the less excited I am. The teams 2 biggest weaknesses are rebounding and 3 point shooting and they are now really exposed. Must be counting on a buyout candidate for 3 point shooting.

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What would you do to get more 3pt shooting on the floor though? Cut Siakam's minutes? Trade OG? Green and Kawhi are gonna eat all your wing minutes.

Heediot
02-07-2019, 03:45 PM
The more I think about this the less excited I am. The teams 2 biggest weaknesses are rebounding and 3 point shooting and they are now really exposed. Must be counting on a buyout candidate for 3 point shooting.

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Meh. Defense and playing in the half court when needed is significant in the playoffs. Not saying those other two things aren't either.

Chronz
02-07-2019, 04:01 PM
Hope Gasol is open to the matchups thing determining who starts.

Chronz
02-07-2019, 04:04 PM
The more I think about this the less excited I am. The teams 2 biggest weaknesses are rebounding and 3 point shooting and they are now really exposed. Must be counting on a buyout candidate for 3 point shooting.

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Gasol can shoot the 3, no? Haven't checked the numbers but iirc, your relatively poor 3pt shooting was lower than expected given the quality of the shot, it was suppose to improve by default.

R. Johnson#3
02-07-2019, 04:09 PM
The more I think about this the less excited I am. The teams 2 biggest weaknesses are rebounding and 3 point shooting and they are now really exposed. Must be counting on a buyout candidate for 3 point shooting.

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I don't see how the trade effects our 3 point shooting in a negative way? If anything it should boost it. Gasol is a playmaker and much better at finding the open man especially once the ball is on the floor. We will take a hit at rebounding though which does worry me.

The biggest positive about this deal is that Nick Nurse has more versatility when it comes to closing out games. It's no longer Serge or bust. He can pick between either or now.

aman_13
02-07-2019, 04:10 PM
Gasol can shoot the 3, no? Haven't checked the numbers but iirc, your relatively poor 3pt shooting was lower than expected given the quality of the shot, it was suppose to improve by default.

He's shooting 34%. Not great and his effeciency overall isn't either but we have to take role into account. He doesn't have to carry as much responsibility, so maybe that will help. He fills their need for another playmaker, which is what i'm thrilled about the most.

More-Than-Most
02-07-2019, 04:22 PM
This is a good trade to make... Gasol does shut down embiid but i am glad JV is gone because he is the one dude that owned housing space in embiids head lol

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-07-2019, 04:26 PM
Didn't Gasol get a coach fired cause he was called out for taking plays off and coasting or sleep walking through some games?

Heediot
02-07-2019, 04:28 PM
Didn't Gasol get a coach fired cause he was called out for taking plays off and coasting or sleep walking through some games?

lol. you going hard to put down this trade.

TheDish87
02-07-2019, 04:28 PM
the East is crazyyyyyyyyyy. Where is Ainge? lololol

IndyRealist
02-07-2019, 04:31 PM
the East is crazyyyyyyyyyy. Where is Ainge? lololol

Waiting for AD.

PAOboston
02-07-2019, 04:39 PM
the East is crazyyyyyyyyyy. Where is Ainge? lololol

Ainge isnt reactive. He has a long term plan and is steadfast with it. Philly getting Tobias Harris or Toronto getting Gasol isnít going to change the way he thinks.

The two things he wanted to accomplish this trade deadline he did: open up roster spot for buy out candidate and ensure he has a chance at AD this summer.




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TheDish87
02-07-2019, 04:57 PM
gonna have to gut the team for AD and the picks you are holding are losing value by the day. Good chance the Grizz and Clips picks dont convey and Kings look like a non lotto pick. Still have to ensure Irving stays too.

FlashBolt
02-07-2019, 05:12 PM
still think Philly is the best team but the top teams of the East are all great teams

PAOboston
02-07-2019, 05:14 PM
gonna have to gut the team for AD and the picks you are holding are losing value by the day. Good chance the Grizz and Clips picks dont convey and Kings look like a non lotto pick. Still have to ensure Irving stays too.

Donít know what the plan for the summer is. Cs are believed to be confident in retaining Irving. The Grizz pick could just roll over to next summer (too 6 protected/unprotected the year after). Sacramento pick will likely fall somewhere in the 10-14 range. Not great but it is what it is.

It will be an interesting summer for sure.


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ManningToTyree
02-07-2019, 05:18 PM
Huge move east playoffs are going to be a lot of fun this year


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Chronz
02-07-2019, 05:20 PM
Didn't Gasol get a coach fired cause he was called out for taking plays off and coasting or sleep walking through some games?
Got him fired for being a dunce iirc.

TheDish87
02-07-2019, 05:26 PM
Donít know what the plan for the summer is. Cs are believed to be confident in retaining Irving. The Grizz pick could just roll over to next summer (too 6 protected/unprotected the year after). Sacramento pick will likely fall somewhere in the 10-14 range. Not great but it is what it is.

It will be an interesting summer for sure.


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i dont really like the rule preventing the trade but as a rival fan of course im all for it now. but those assets def could lose value, probably will, not to mention the player hitting RFA

Scoots
02-07-2019, 09:04 PM
Good for Gasol and Toronto. The 2nd round on in the East is going to be fun.

smith&wesson
02-07-2019, 09:06 PM
With Kawhi/Siakam/Ibaka/Gasol in the front court, the raptors just became a bully team.

warfelg
02-08-2019, 08:24 AM
Donít know what the plan for the summer is. Cs are believed to be confident in retaining Irving. The Grizz pick could just roll over to next summer (too 6 protected/unprotected the year after). Sacramento pick will likely fall somewhere in the 10-14 range. Not great but it is what it is.

It will be an interesting summer for sure.


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I think Sac makes the playoffs. The Clips just gave up, LAL did nothing to improve, and Sac made some quality small moves.

R. Johnson#3
02-08-2019, 09:05 AM
I think Sac makes the playoffs. The Clips just gave up, LAL did nothing to improve, and Sac made some quality small moves.

Not to mention with every game Marvin Bagley has been getting more and more confident. Next to Luka heíll probably be the 2nd best player in the draft.

warfelg
02-08-2019, 09:13 AM
Not to mention with every game Marvin Bagley has been getting more and more confident. Next to Luka heíll probably be the 2nd best player in the draft.

Yea. What sucks for Sac is they got all those bigs. Theyíll either lose some to FA or have to trade for like 2nds

Tg11
02-08-2019, 09:14 AM
With Kawhi/Siakam/Ibaka/Gasol in the front court, the raptors just became a bully team.

Most Raptor fans I know hate this trade

R. Johnson#3
02-08-2019, 09:48 AM
Most Raptor fans I know hate this trade

Nah.

JV was a fan favourite but this will be like the Kawhi deal. Once Gasol plays fans will realize what we have. We have a savvy 34 year old whoís starved for a championship who played 30+ minutes a game on a crap team. Heís going to be playing probably around 25 a night and shouldering less of a load. JV brought some great qualities to the table but Gasol is a better basketball player.

R. Johnson#3
02-08-2019, 10:25 AM
Yea. What sucks for Sac is they got all those bigs. Theyíll either lose some to FA or have to trade for like 2nds

You either lose a big thatís soft as tissue paper but can shoot 3ís (Bjelica) or one who can play decent defence and nothing else (Cauley-Stein). Personally I think itíll be the latter. Bagley can do what WCS does along with way more offensively.

ewing
02-08-2019, 10:33 AM
Most Raptor fans I know hate this trade

They arenít the brightest crew


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ewing
02-08-2019, 10:36 AM
You either lose a big thatís soft as tissue paper but can shoot 3ís (Bjelica) or one who can play decent defence and nothing else (Cauley-Stein). Personally I think itíll be the latter. Bagley can do what WCS does along with way more offensively.

I havenít watch a lot but I thought WCS really expanded his offensive game?


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WaDe03
02-08-2019, 11:00 AM
They arenít the brightest crew


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Very true, good post brother!

Scoots
02-08-2019, 11:25 AM
I havenít watch a lot but I thought WCS really expanded his offensive game?

He doubled his range. He can shoot from 2 feet out now.

R. Johnson#3
02-08-2019, 11:27 AM
I havenít watch a lot but I thought WCS really expanded his offensive game?


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Yeah, he can actually score from 2 feet away sometimes now.

I really only started watching a few Kings games TBH and it seems like WCS hasnít made much progress aside from just getting some more shots. I think Bagley will slowly but surely take touches away from him if he stays because you canít take away from Fox, Hield or Bogy.

R. Johnson#3
02-08-2019, 11:28 AM
He doubled his range. He can shoot from 2 feet out now.

I swear I didnít even see this post before making mine.

warfelg
02-08-2019, 11:39 AM
They also have Kofus and Giles too.

ewing
02-08-2019, 11:54 AM
Yeah, he can actually score from 2 feet away sometimes now.

I really only started watching a few Kings games TBH and it seems like WCS hasnít made much progress aside from just getting some more shots. I think Bagley will slowly but surely take touches away from him if he stays because you canít take away from Fox, Hield or Bogy.

lol I havenít watched but heard some comments from him and I guess I believed his hype lol


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R. Johnson#3
02-08-2019, 12:11 PM
lol I havenít watched but heard some comments from him and I guess I believed his hype lol


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The hype on him is moot. The hype around the rest of the team is very real. The Kings are really fun to watch but I donít really get the Barnes move unless heís supposed to be their 6th man.

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-08-2019, 12:21 PM
To me this move solidifies my expectations that Toronto will come out of the East this year. A lot of people seem to think Gasol is washed up or won't fit in with Toronto. I disagree with both of those ideas. It think he'll fit in perfectly with this team and will put them over the top. He is perfect for this team IMO. His defense, passing, and shooting will fit in seamlessly. As long as they stay healthy, they are my pick in the East.

warfelg
02-08-2019, 12:27 PM
To me this move solidifies my expectations that Toronto will come out of the East this year. A lot of people seem to think Gasol is washed up or won't fit in with Toronto. I disagree with both of those ideas. It think he'll fit in perfectly with this team and will put them over the top. He is perfect for this team IMO. His defense, passing, and shooting will fit in seamlessly. As long as they stay healthy, they are my pick in the East.

I think where it hurts though, is while not playing at a breakneck pace, Toronto likes to play at a much faster pace than Memphis. How well does that part blend?

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-08-2019, 12:28 PM
Yeah, he can actually score from 2 feet away sometimes now.

I really only started watching a few Kings games TBH and it seems like WCS hasnít made much progress aside from just getting some more shots. I think Bagley will slowly but surely take touches away from him if he stays because you canít take away from Fox, Hield or Bogy.

WCS's biggest issue is rim protection which is where he really doesn't provide much. Offensively he has developed considerably. He does a lot of things that go unnoticed. He sets good screens and does a good job rolling to the basket on pick and rolls. He also has developed a few post moves and is a much better finisher.

The lack of rim protection is annoying, but at the same time his net rating is pretty good so I'll hold off on criticizing too much. He is a player who does do a lot of the little things well. I will agree with you about Bagley though. As Bagley develops, it should take some touches away from Cauley-Stein.

Per 100 possessions, WCS leads the Kings in net rating with a +7.

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-08-2019, 12:31 PM
I think where it hurts though, is while not playing at a breakneck pace, Toronto likes to play at a much faster pace than Memphis. How well does that part blend?

I don't think Gasol is a total statue out there. It's like when people thought Cousins wouldn't be able to fit into a faster pace in GS, but he fit in perfectly fine. Bottom line is, in the playoffs the pace will slow near the end of games and that's when you want a guy like Gasol in the half court sets.

He's just a nice addition to an already really good team.

TrueFan420
02-08-2019, 12:47 PM
The hype on him is moot. The hype around the rest of the team is very real. The Kings are really fun to watch but I donít really get the Barnes move unless heís supposed to be their 6th man.

Heís 6í8. A decent scorer, ok shooter, versatile defender and can play the small ball 4. Heís a very good role player albeit overpaid. Could have been much better than he is but doesnít have IT. Any team would could use a player like him. They happen to have the cap that it wonít hurt them this year or next year.

As 4th option heís ok. Remember he was the 3rd/4th option on a championship side. Heís also part of why we lost a championship but heís still a good player and at 26 heís in his prime with a young core. His playoff experience could be useful.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-08-2019, 01:27 PM
I bet Kemba is ticked off Hornets missed out on Gasol. Hornets dull offer was a late first in a weak draft and Biyombo and either Williams or MKG. Grizzlies didn't want to take on future salary. Hornets should of tossed in Bridges or Monk and possibly Frank since they may buy him out anyway. Wouldn't be shocked Kemba walks this summer.

Tg11
02-08-2019, 01:43 PM
Kemba Walker I think stays in Charlotte but as for Charlotte missing out on Gasol...it is their own fault

Gasol on the Raptors could actually be good for the Raptors well because with the addition of Marc they become a terror on the defensive end