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Sources with @JonKrawczynski: Philadelphia is finalizing a deal with Minnesota to acquire Jimmy Butler.

Htownballa1622
11-10-2018, 01:50 PM
Whoa

YAALREADYKNO
11-10-2018, 01:51 PM
Well damn

Bostonjorge
11-10-2018, 01:53 PM
Saric and Convinton being reported

YAALREADYKNO
11-10-2018, 01:53 PM
Butler for Covington and Saric and most likely a pick

cmellofan15
11-10-2018, 01:58 PM
Amazing. Way to go Philly, they now have the best collection of star power outside of GSW. The East should be much more interesting come playoff time this year

Rivera
11-10-2018, 01:58 PM
oh no! They traded a top 25 player last year for Butler! I wonder where Butler ranks in RPM



In all seriousness though, great move. They have a legit #2 scorer now defense doesnt get messed with and from what is read, they will give Butler a long term extension to make a new Big 3.


Traded 2 role players for a star, Great move

Sixers3Fan
11-10-2018, 01:58 PM
Lets go! Saric has been trash this year but gonna miss Cov.

Sadds The Gr8
11-10-2018, 02:00 PM
ah sh-t...

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:00 PM
Pat is washed itís time to retire fam. You have a top 10 player saying youíre his preferred choice so obviously heís going to sign long term and get pissed and say no over a pick and you donít even like keeping your draft picks anyways you damn clown!

aman_13
11-10-2018, 02:00 PM
Good trade for Philly.

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WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:01 PM
Philly is now the top team in the East and the East is more top heavy than the West for sure.

koldjerky
11-10-2018, 02:01 PM
Hawk, youíll love Saric!


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kdspurman
11-10-2018, 02:02 PM
Sounds like the deal the Spurs turned down for Kawhi. Interesting move for Philly, could pay off. Wonder how he and Embiid will mesh personality wise

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:03 PM
Philly is now the top team in the East and the East is more top heavy than the West for sure.

Idk about either one but for sure it makes it so much more interesting! Looking forward to the playoffs on both sides now :nod:

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:04 PM
I canít be happy for Philly Fans? Except one person! Címon!

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:04 PM
Ben and Joel better hide their Girlfriends!

Vallejo Raiders
11-10-2018, 02:04 PM
We thought or atleast I thought he'd put the wolves over the top. Cant wait to see how this plays out!

Cal827
11-10-2018, 02:05 PM
:laugh2: They thought that this was better than 4 1st round picks?

Well done Philly, but I wonder if he's going to get on Simmons if he doesn't get better.

But assuming no issue, Man the East is going to be a meatgrinder this postseason:

Milwaukee
Boston
Toronto
Philly

Also, the Atlantic division might be the best in the league: 3 teams will probably win 50+, a couple might win 60+ and the Nets might actually be a .500 team this year :laugh2:

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:06 PM
:laugh2: They thought that this was better than 4 1st round picks?

Well done Philly, but I wonder if he's going to get on Simmons if he doesn't get better.

But assuming no issue, Man the East is going to be a meatgrinder this postseason:

Milwaukee
Boston
Toronto
Philly

Also, the Atlantic division might be the best in the league: 3 teams will probably win 50+, a couple might win 60+ and the Nets might actually be a .500 team this year :laugh2:

Definitely makes the Eastern Conference playoffs very exciting

tp13baby
11-10-2018, 02:07 PM
The amount of 6ers fans ranking Cov in the top 30 and Saric who has struggled but will be better, how do all you feel? I think Embiid has the personality that will go good with JB. Still leaves you fairly slim at forward though. Jonah, Muscala or WC have to step up. I might be in the minority but I donít think the 76ers got to the next level. I thought their team would be better assuming Fultz Saric and Simmons would start waking up. I donít know.

Cal827
11-10-2018, 02:07 PM
Sounds like the deal the Spurs turned down for Kawhi. Interesting move for Philly, could pay off. Wonder how he and Embiid will mesh personality wise

Well Kawhi is a fair bit better than Butler so that's understandable :laugh2:


But the trash talking during practice between the two of them is gonna be legendary.

kdspurman
11-10-2018, 02:07 PM
I canít be happy for Philly Fans? Except one person! Címon!

Just put their name then . You know what you did dude

aman_13
11-10-2018, 02:08 PM
Philly lost another shooter tho in this trade but I'm sure they will acquire someone at some point. As a Raps fan, I hope it's not Korver.

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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:08 PM
Sounds like the deal the Spurs turned down for Kawhi. Interesting move for Philly, could pay off. Wonder how he and Embiid will mesh personality wise

Twitter is roaring already.


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Also if 76ers give Butler his demands of 5/$190M and Embiid already paid. Not much cap left for Simmons and Fultz and any bench down the road.

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:08 PM
So wolves supposedly playing hardball all this time and thatís all they end up with? Donít even get a 1st? Smh

ChI_ShIzzLe
11-10-2018, 02:08 PM
As a Bulls fan, I think we definitely won that trade now..lol

Sadds The Gr8
11-10-2018, 02:09 PM
:laugh2: They thought that this was better than 4 1st round picks?

Well done Philly, but I wonder if he's going to get on Simmons if he doesn't get better.

But assuming no issue, Man the East is going to be a meatgrinder this postseason:

Milwaukee
Boston
Toronto
Philly

Also, the Atlantic division might be the best in the league: 3 teams will probably win 50+, a couple might win 60+ and the Nets might actually be a .500 team this year :laugh2:
i always thought that was fake news

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:10 PM
Love to replace Saric, could try to swing Korver too. Not sure what Philly has to offer filler wise.

SteBO
11-10-2018, 02:10 PM
I like it for Philly....makes Boston far less of a shoe-in for the east crown.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:11 PM
Count down till Butler grills Simmons and Fultz to improve their shooting.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:11 PM
Just put their name then . You know what you did dude

Lmfao! That is his name! Donít be a sour grape. Smoke a joint, eat a pop tart, hugs and kisses

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:12 PM
Count down till Butler grills Simmons and Fultz to improve their shooting.

Countdown until Jimmy Butler is smashing his teammates girls!

Hustla23
11-10-2018, 02:13 PM
The Wolves ended up trading Markkanen, Lavine, and Dunn for Saric and Covington lol.

Can't blame them for shooting their shot, sometimes things don't work out.

kdspurman
11-10-2018, 02:14 PM
Well Kawhi is a fair bit better than Butler so that's understandable :laugh2:


But the trash talking during practice between the two of them is gonna be legendary.

Oh absolutely. It's why SA wanted Embiid or Simmons.

But yeah, that trash talk should be interesting lol

CityofTreez
11-10-2018, 02:15 PM
Dayum....Sixers look sweet

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:16 PM
I donít think Fultz there is much longer. Has to be something else coming. He doesnít fit at all now, not even close.

KobeOwnSU
11-10-2018, 02:16 PM
Makes the 76ers even more hateable. Him and Embiid are going to go at it. Embiid isn't a little ***** like KAT.

kdspurman
11-10-2018, 02:16 PM
Lmfao! That is his name! Donít be a sour grape. Smoke a joint, eat a pop tart, hugs and kisses

Ha.. a pop tart does sound good right about now

ChI_ShIzzLe
11-10-2018, 02:17 PM
The Wolves ended up trading Markkanen, Lavine, and Dunn for Saric and Covington lol.

Can't blame them for shooting their shot, sometimes things don't work out.

They probably didnít see Lavine coming back from the ACL better than ever and currently top 5 in the league in scoring.

redsox12
11-10-2018, 02:17 PM
:( to be a Boston fan right now. I don't know if we make a desperate move or just stand pat, Philly is def the favorites now.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:17 PM
Countdown until Jimmy Butler is smashing his teammates girls!

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GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:19 PM
Makes the 76ers even more hateable. Him and Embiid are going to go at it. Embiid isn't a little ***** like KAT.

This! Canít wait to watch!

TheNumber37
11-10-2018, 02:19 PM
Good move by Phili.

Shoulda just took those 4 first round draft picks from Houston.

Covington is not worth his contract - Phili gets cap space for next year if Butler doesn't sign with them.
I would say that Thibs gets fired before All star break

TheNumber37
11-10-2018, 02:20 PM
Butler wiill be OKAY with SImmons and Embiid because they compete and DEFEND

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:21 PM
1058787053423509506

:laugh2:

Vallejo Raiders
11-10-2018, 02:22 PM
Makes the 76ers even more hateable. Him and Embiid are going to go at it. Embiid isn't a little ***** like KAT.

Only if you're a Lakers fan

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:22 PM
For those saying Jimmy will clash: Ben and Embiid are very passionate and it seems that what Jimmy wants in teammates.

ewing
11-10-2018, 02:23 PM
Will Jimmy make Fultz cry or is the tough love just what he needs?


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Vallejo Raiders
11-10-2018, 02:23 PM
Ha.. a pop tart does sound good right about now

Mad I missed it what was said??

mngopher35
11-10-2018, 02:24 PM
As a Bulls fan, I think we definitely won that trade now..lol

As a wolves fan I thought that would be the end result right when the trade was made... We win in the short term to make playoffs/in media on trade night but long term it ends up looking bad. I am a little surprised it happened this fast though, I think I said something like in 5 years we will look back and regret this. Shoulda been in a little over one year lol.

I just really hope we finally move on from Thibs now, one good thing can come from this whole mess.

Vallejo Raiders
11-10-2018, 02:24 PM
:( to be a Boston fan right now. I don't know if we make a desperate move or just stand pat, Philly is def the favorites now.

Stay pat bro you guys are still favorites talent wise IMO.

ewing
11-10-2018, 02:24 PM
For those saying Jimmy will clash: Ben and Embiid are very passionate and it seems that what Jimmy wants in teammates.

I think Jimmy and Joel will be totally fine. I donít see him and Benís games fitting as good but I think they will be fine. Iíd worry about the guy that was too soft to suit up last year


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Rivera
11-10-2018, 02:25 PM
:( to be a Boston fan right now. I don't know if we make a desperate move or just stand pat, Philly is def the favorites now.

no need to panic, Cs have more players that can dribble, pass, shoot defend. Phillys team does fit better now that they have a real #2 option outside of embiid. Defensively, its a lateral move, they arent better defensively. Toronto is still a bigger threat to me come playoff time because I still dont trust Ben come playoff time and I still dont know about Fultz and that jumper. With Ben on the floor, defenses in the playoffs can prepare better and play 4-5 ball. If Fultz jumper doesnt improve then teams in the playoffs can play 3-5 when on defense.

The 76ers will go as far as Ben Simmons jump shot can take them. If he can be a threat 18 feet out that you HAVE to defend, its going to change the dynamics of Phillys offense so much, until then I believe its to easy to game plan for Philly in a 7 game series.

For now its still Toronto v Boston in the ECF with Tornots D being a huge factor and swapping out playoff DD for playoff Kawhi and Danny Green. Toronto is still the scary team out west

cmellofan15
11-10-2018, 02:25 PM
Lmao anyone who thinks Embiid and Butler won't mesh are either haters or idiots. Both are incredible competitors unlike the dudes in that Minnesota locker room

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:25 PM
Congrats to Philly though. They needed a boost. Cause they been working Embiid hard for some of these wins. They needed another guy like Butler to ease the load a bit. Simmons should have easier triple doubles now. But if Philly pays 5/$190M to Butler. Wow their cap strapped pretty much with just Embiid and Butler. Then rookie high price of Fultz. Maybe Fultz and a pick or something traded for another win now piece coming up? 76ers bench is a bit thin. Hardly any shooters.

Vallejo Raiders
11-10-2018, 02:26 PM
This! Canít wait to watch!

Confirmed only to laker fans

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:26 PM
I think Jimmy and Joel will be totally fine. I donít see him and Benís games fitting as good but I think they will be fine. Iíd worry about the guy that was too soft to suit up last year


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It is a writing. On the wall situation for Fultz. I wonder if we go for a 1 or a 4.

Tg11
11-10-2018, 02:27 PM
76ers are now going to get over the hump...they just added Butler and you add him to Embiid and Simmons especially then that is a Big 3 who can be a threat but also a team who can challenge the Celtics and Raptors especially

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:27 PM
Only if you're a Lakers fan

You know heís a Raiders fan..

D Blue987
11-10-2018, 02:29 PM
Minnesota had no choice. He was becoming far too much of a distraction and he was sitting out games when he probably should have been playing. It is a great move for Philly though. He is a scorer and a premier defender who is capable of disrupting the other team's best player. If they get him to sign an extension, I think he will push Philly towards the top of the conference. Bos-Philly-Tor should be an interesting race come the playoffs.

ewing
11-10-2018, 02:30 PM
It is a writing. On the wall situation for Fultz. I wonder if we go for a 1 or a 4.

Are you saying that you think they are giving up on Fultz?


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GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:31 PM
Confirmed only to laker fans

You obviously didnít understand the first post.... theyíre both Alphaís theyíre going to challenge each other and Embiid wonít back down like a *****..... this is either going to click or blow up, either way bad trade for Minny , good trade for Philly. Oh and **** Boston. Would rather see Philly, Toronto or Milwaukee in the Finals.


Now stop being a..... . And sit your *** down

ewing
11-10-2018, 02:31 PM
I hope we get a KL vs Jimmy match up in the playoffs


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warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:32 PM
Are you saying that you think they are giving up on Fultz?


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I wouldnít call it giving up. But the only way to develop him at this point is to either move him or play him off the bench.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:32 PM
I hope we get a KL vs Jimmy match up in the playoffs


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Seriously, canít wait for playoff matchups. This is going to be a lot of fun.

ewing
11-10-2018, 02:35 PM
I wouldnít call it giving up. But the only way to develop him at this point is to either move him or play him off the bench.

Wow. I mean I agree but itís a 180. If they can move Fultz and add 4 that can stretch Iíd itíd be a good move imo. Donít know who fits the bill but...


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D Blue987
11-10-2018, 02:35 PM
Seriously, canít wait for playoff matchups. This is going to be a lot of fun.

Yup. Jimmy can't carry a team deep into the playoffs but with Simmons and Embiid as teammates, I could see them making the ECF at least depending on seeding and matchups.

AntiG
11-10-2018, 02:37 PM
Talk about buying high selling low

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:39 PM
Are you saying that you think they are giving up on Fultz?


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John Wall Kemba or Love, warfelg?

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:40 PM
John Wall Kemba or Love, warfelg?

No no no.

My dream right now would be Patrick Beverly.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:40 PM
Yup. Jimmy can't carry a team deep into the playoffs but with Simmons and Embiid as teammates, I could see them making the ECF at least depending on seeding and matchups.

For Philly to make the finals they need a better bench. Philly's defense will be through the roof. But what about three point shooting? Butler is okay. Simmons and Fultz are suspects there. Redick is good though. 76ers should be waiting for Wizards to blow it up. Beal on Philly would be ****.

Simmons,Beal,Butler,Muscala,Embiid

Or trade for Love?

Hawkeye15
11-10-2018, 02:40 PM
Fine with it. Covington has his limitations, but is an excellent defender and can shoot the 3. His contract is very reasonable. Saric I don't know a ton about, seems to be a Bjelica all over again.

At the end of the day, this breakup needed to happen. Fast. Wolves basically traded Lavine, Markannen, and Dunn, for Covington and Saric, so clearly the Wolves take a step back. but, this season was quickly being lost, hopefully this rights the ship and they can form some identity.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:41 PM
Fine with it. Covington has his limitations, but is an excellent defender and can shoot the 3. His contract is very reasonable. Saric I don't know a ton about, seems to be a Bjelica all over again.

At the end of the day, this breakup needed to happen. Fast. Wolves basically traded Lavine, Markannen, and Dunn, for Covington and Saric, so clearly the Wolves take a step back. but, this season was quickly being lost, hopefully this rights the ship and they can form some identity.

You are going to love Saric. Trust me.

Vallejo Raiders
11-10-2018, 02:42 PM
You know heís a Raiders fan..

Annnnndddd..... Two different sports bro. Why bring up the Raiders you wanna see me get all emotional in the NBA fourm😥😫😓😢😭😭😭😭

Hawkeye15
11-10-2018, 02:42 PM
Yup. Jimmy can't carry a team deep into the playoffs but with Simmons and Embiid as teammates, I could see them making the ECF at least depending on seeding and matchups.

make no mistake, Butler can't be your #1. But Embiid can. Maybe not yet this year, but he will be soon enough. Butler is a headache, I am hoping for you Philly fans he doesn't turn into a diva, but he is 2/2. And before anyone claims its because of the teams he is on, when you are the constant in drama, well, it's because of you...

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:42 PM
John Wall Kemba or Love, warfelg?

Wall has a trade kicker this season. Unless he waives it. But Wall next year is like $39M. Yeesh. Then if Butler wants 5/$190M besides Embiid's max. That's your team and barely a bench.

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:43 PM
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Can we all just agree Pat Riley is washed? **** him!

Storch
11-10-2018, 02:43 PM
Thats a prettgy good return for the wolves i guess

Hawkeye15
11-10-2018, 02:44 PM
You are going to love Saric. Trust me.

well if Teague ever gets healthy, our Tyus/Rose/Saric/Okogie/Dieng bench actually isn't too bad. Starters aren't great, not even league average, but meh.

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:44 PM
Nice warrelg Pat is a perfect fit.

Bostonjorge
11-10-2018, 02:45 PM
:( to be a Boston fan right now. I don't know if we make a desperate move or just stand pat, Philly is def the favorites now.

Boston donít need to make any moves. Philly has to prove this move got them closer to Boston not the other way around. Going to be a great playoff series. Philly going to be a tough for anyone to beat now.

Hawkeye15
11-10-2018, 02:45 PM
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Can we all just agree Pat Riley is washed? **** him!

Riley should have come back around with the offer, versus being a grudge holder. Clearly the Wolves started the season with some idiotic ploy to change Butlers mind. But watching the first 13 games, its clear he doesn't care at all about the Wolves. And the development of the others is stunted. It was time to move on..

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:46 PM
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GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:47 PM
Annnnndddd..... Two different sports bro. Why bring up the Raiders you wanna see me get all emotional in the NBA fourm😥😫😓😢😭😭😭😭

Yes! Cry! :p

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:48 PM
Riley should have come back around with the offer, versus being a grudge holder. Clearly the Wolves started the season with some idiotic ploy to change Butlers mind. But watching the first 13 games, its clear he doesn't care at all about the Wolves. And the development of the others is stunted. It was time to move on..

Iím done with him man, heís terrible and Miami obviously needs a change. You canít just roll out the same team of role players every year and expect fans to be happy.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:49 PM
well if Teague ever gets healthy, our Tyus/Rose/Saric/Okogie/Dieng bench actually isn't too bad. Starters aren't great, not even league average, but meh.

Saric is a bit of a frumpy lumper. He did a live podcast of Rights to Ricky Sanchez. Listen to it (fast forward through the super homer part). Dario is a great guy. Versatile offensively. Handles well. Great passer. Good shooter. Not an above the rim player but with KAT heís a great offensive fit.

Rivera
11-10-2018, 02:49 PM
i dont think philly needs a strech 4 tbh Amir/Bolden/Muscala as the backup bigs and they are going to move one of Wilson/Reddick in the starting line up

so their new 5 is going to be something like Fultz/Reddick/Butler/Simmons/Embiid or Fultz/Chandler/Butler/Simmons/Embiid

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 02:50 PM
Thats a prettgy good return for the wolves i guess

Idk Doc, I think the Richardson + 1st rounder was a much better deal..

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:51 PM
Well its almost noon time for a beer. Since Butler deal pretty much done other then they have to have their physicals good to go. Who is next on the trade block for a discussion? KP taking pictures of him sprinting or is that fake news? Seems Rozier is happy with playing time now or Ainge had that printed to keep trade talks at a dull roar for now?

ChI_ShIzzLe
11-10-2018, 02:51 PM
As a wolves fan I thought that would be the end result right when the trade was made... We win in the short term to make playoffs/in media on trade night but long term it ends up looking bad. I am a little surprised it happened this fast though, I think I said something like in 5 years we will look back and regret this. Shoulda been in a little over one year lol.

I just really hope we finally move on from Thibs now, one good thing can come from this whole mess.

To be fair it was a risk on the Bulls part at the time, because of the uncertainty of Lavineís health going forward. So we got lucky that heís been able to come back and be this good so far to start the season.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:52 PM
i dont think philly needs a strech 4 tbh Amir/Bolden/Muscala as the backup bigs and they are going to move one of Wilson/Reddick in the starting line up

so their new 5 is going to be something like Fultz/Reddick/Butler/Simmons/Embiid or Fultz/Chandler/Butler/Simmons/Embiid

Unlikely to be Chandler. Heís on a restriction.

Fultz
Reddick
Butler
Simmons
Embiid

Is likely the starters with TJ, Shamet, Chandler, Muscala, Johnson bench.

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 02:54 PM
Philly should go after Pat Bev and Korver.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:54 PM
Underrated question:

How much does Landry Shamet get paid for #23?

Rivera
11-10-2018, 02:55 PM
Unlikely to be Chandler. Heís on a restriction.

Fultz
Reddick
Butler
Simmons
Embiid

Is likely the starters with TJ, Shamet, Chandler, Muscala, Johnson bench.

yea i figured, good squad, shamwet is awesome, nice underrated piece. Im to the point where im thinking maybe start Shamwet and let Fultz be the primary ball handler/scorer off the bench

Rivera
11-10-2018, 02:56 PM
Underrated question:

How much does Landry Shamet get paid for #23?

a private Jet to watch his bro play basketball :D :laugh2:

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:57 PM
Unlikely to be Chandler. Heís on a restriction.

Fultz
Reddick
Butler
Simmons
Embiid

Is likely the starters with TJ, Shamet, Chandler, Muscala, Johnson bench.

I don't recommend two so so shooters in a starting line up. I know this coming as a Bucks fan when we had MCW and JOB and few other scrubs surrounding Giannis as starters many years ago. 76ers need like a Korver or some sharp shooter off the bench as a cheap buyout option. Kinda like when ya got Ersan and Belinelli last year. PF seems a bit thin for 76ers as well now. Unless you guys play small ball with Chandler or Butler there or something.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 02:59 PM
Underrated question:

How much does Landry Shamet get paid for #23?

His jersey number? Butler may just kill him for it. Usually its like a few $100K or so.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 02:59 PM
yea i figured, good squad, shamwet is awesome, nice underrated piece. Im to the point where im thinking maybe start Shamwet and let Fultz be the primary ball handler/scorer off the bench

Yea thatís getting tossed around too. That makes things really interesting.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 03:02 PM
Well its almost noon time for a beer. Since Butler deal pretty much done other then they have to have their physicals good to go. Who is next on the trade block for a discussion? KP taking pictures of him sprinting or is that fake news? Seems Rozier is happy with playing time now or Ainge had that printed to keep trade talks at a dull roar for now?

Miller High Life isnít beer..... :hide:

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 03:02 PM
Underrated question:

How much does Landry Shamet get paid for #23?

Butler going to show him his dick...

FlashBolt
11-10-2018, 03:08 PM
Butler just isn't worth the max to me. I get why he was frustrated with Wiggins getting it along with Towns considering Butler is their best player but that age and wear on his body doesn't seem like a good deal at this time. Just unfortunate in timing because if he was aged 26, he'd be getting the max no problem. Embiid+Butler+Ben+Fultz+Reddick. Fultz and Ben better start working on their shot because it'll only be a matter of time before Butler starts mocking and daring them to take those shots.

Swift Game
11-10-2018, 03:09 PM
Philly is now the top team in the East and the East is more top heavy than the West for sure.They are 4th best in the east at best. No way are they better than Boston, Toronto and Milwaukee...

The outside shooting will hurt them more now. Saric and Covington spread the floor for them.

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bleedprple&gold
11-10-2018, 03:12 PM
Minny had 4 1sts on the table from Houston and couldn't even get one 1st from Philly because of this stupid idea that you shouldn't trade within the conference? Major fail. Minny is not making the playoffs anyways so they won't see Houston down the road. Bottom line, you take the best trade package, no matter what team it's from.

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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:12 PM
Miller High Life isnít beer..... :hide:

I'm drinking Red Dog. They don't sell 30 packs of Miller High Life in my town here. I only buy 30 packs. Go big or go home. So I was on the Hamm's kick for 30 packs for a year or so. Then I switched to Red Dog.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:13 PM
They are 4th best in the east at best. No way are they better than Boston, Toronto and Milwaukee...

The outside shooting will hurt them more now. Saric and Covington spread the floor for them.

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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:17 PM
Butler just isn't worth the max to me. I get why he was frustrated with Wiggins getting it along with Towns considering Butler is their best player but that age and wear on his body doesn't seem like a good deal at this time. Just unfortunate in timing because if he was aged 26, he'd be getting the max no problem. Embiid+Butler+Ben+Fultz+Reddick. Fultz and Ben better start working on their shot because it'll only be a matter of time before Butler starts mocking and daring them to take those shots.

Dont forget the heavy minutes Thibs fed Butler through the years. Butler has a ton of miles. Kinda like dog years.

Jamiecballer
11-10-2018, 03:19 PM
This is interesting. As a Raptors fan my ideal scenario was for him to get traded to the Clippers.

As far as Eastern conference goes, Philly is interesting. They gave up more than I expected, and I'm not certain how the fit works for them.

If Jimmy finds the fit in the 76ers locker room to be anything like the Wolves then I'm not concerned - the floor is raised but the ceiling isn't any higher.

But if Jimmy finds his new teammates to be more in line with his temperament than I think the top of the conference just got a lot more exciting.

Again though, really wish he had been traded directly to the Clippers because I think that would have greatly improved Toronto's chances of keeping Kawhi.

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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:25 PM
Yeah season is young and Rockets maybe turn it around. But 4 first round picks look sexy now that the rockets are losing some games. That may comeback to haunt the Wolves. Also Harden,CP3 over paid back court may not age well. Chances are them last two firsts could be lottery.

I know I said over 54 days ago before the Butler count down started. I figured that the last pick be sexy and rest be playoff draft picks. But now if Rockets don't turn it around quickly in a month or so and out of playoffs. Wolves stumbled on this deal. Heat deal is up in the air if it was Richardson and a pick.

Swift Game
11-10-2018, 03:26 PM
This is interesting. As a Raptors fan my ideal scenario was for him to get traded to the Clippers.

As far as Eastern conference goes, Philly is interesting. They gave up more than I expected, and I'm not certain how the fit works for them.

If Jimmy finds the fit in the 76ers locker room to be anything like the Wolves then I'm not concerned - the floor is raised but the ceiling isn't any higher.

But if Jimmy finds his new teammates to be more in line with his temperament than I think the top of the conference just got a lot more exciting.

Again though, really wish he had been traded directly to the Clippers because I think that would have greatly improved Toronto's chances of keeping Kawhi.

Sent from my SM-A520W using TapatalkThis was a panic move from philly..they didnt belong in the discussion with Boston and Toronto. Milwaukee is legit...

This could backfire like it did for Minnesota. I hope im wrong because the east has been atrocious for so long and love to see competitive ball.

Makes sense for philly because they looked better last year.


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warfelg
11-10-2018, 03:27 PM
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GiantsSwaGG
11-10-2018, 03:28 PM
I love it because Philly will max Butler which will be a huge mistake

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:29 PM
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If you trade Fultz. What position you going after? Not many teams need a PG now. Suns and Magic?

Raps18-19 Champ
11-10-2018, 03:30 PM
Great deal for both sides.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 03:34 PM
If you trade Fultz. What position you going after? Not many teams need a PG now. Suns and Magic?

We got $21mil without trading Fultz. Max if we do.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 03:36 PM
I'm drinking Red Dog. They don't sell 30 packs of Miller High Life in my town here. I only buy 30 packs. Go big or go home. So I was on the Hamm's kick for 30 packs for a year or so. Then I switched to Red Dog.

Hamm Kicks... Red Dog? You guys have a whole different English language out there :p


Out here, weíre spoiled with Microbreweries.... only the finest for Daddy

warfelg
11-10-2018, 03:38 PM
Hamm Kicks... Red Dog? You guys have a whole different English language out there :p


Out here, weíre spoiled with Microbreweries.... only the finest for Daddy

Micro scene here in RVA is a good one. In a little 3 block part of town we got 6 breweries, 3 cideries, and a vitner.

tredigs
11-10-2018, 03:38 PM
I would have never done that if I was Philly. Saric and Roco were on such good deals.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:39 PM
We got $21mil without trading Fultz. Max if we do.

I'd trade Fultz in a heartbeat.

Storch
11-10-2018, 03:39 PM
Idk Doc, I think the Richardson + 1st rounder was a much better deal..

What year was the 1st and did it have protections?

CityofTreez
11-10-2018, 03:40 PM
Iím wondering if Jimmyís performance last night sent Minny to the edge for this blockbuster trade prob not though

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:41 PM
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aman_13
11-10-2018, 03:41 PM
I think Philly will max him.

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mngopher35
11-10-2018, 03:42 PM
To be fair it was a risk on the Bulls part at the time, because of the uncertainty of Lavineís health going forward. So we got lucky that heís been able to come back and be this good so far to start the season.

I mean sure but even without Lavine that is a recent 5th pick and current 7th pick still as well. Tons of value in that trade even if one of the risky pieces doesn't pan out (lavine or even dunn given underperformed for thibs).

The other side of this is that many Wolves fans preferred Lavine to Wiggins. This isn't as surprising to many of us who watched him improving over the years (I have laid out the arguments in other threads on this too). Thibs could have made a pretty easy decision to move Wiggins instead and saved value elsewhere given their wouldn't be that injury concern/his value was still kinda high as people saw him with tons of potential still.

There were many many reasons I mentioned on why it was probably a bad trade at the time and Lavine is just one aspect. I agree Bulls had a little risk but even without Lavine stepping up there was plenty of value in that trade. Bulls did a good job getting Thibs to throw those specific pieces their way, Thibs is just a really poor gm/coach. He absolutely needs to go

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:43 PM
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Storch
11-10-2018, 03:43 PM
This was a panic move from philly..they didnt belong in the discussion with Boston and Toronto. Milwaukee is legit...

This could backfire like it did for Minnesota. I hope im wrong because the east has been atrocious for so long and love to see competitive ball.

Makes sense for philly because they looked better last year.


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If Butler doesnt sign a new deal with Philly they go from the process to the regress.

R. Johnson#3
11-10-2018, 03:43 PM
Wtf? I could've sworn he was going to the Heat?

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:43 PM
I think Philly will max him.

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Risky. But they have to.

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 03:46 PM
Wtf? I could've sworn he was going to the Heat?

Donít do this. What I said was right, Thibs ****ed it up last second after exchanging health records. Donít do this to yourself. Safe to say Riley is washed though. I own a lot of real estate in your head.

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 03:47 PM
Name a better 3 in the East than Jimmy-Embiid-Simmons.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:47 PM
We got $21mil without trading Fultz. Max if we do.

$21M doesn't go far to replenish a bench mob.

mngopher35
11-10-2018, 03:47 PM
Well I guess it will be easier to root against Philly now lol (Hinkie 4 life).

We got some nice pieces fit wise for our team even if there isn't tons of talent coming back. Hopefully we finally start playing through Towns more instead of Derrick Rose and Andrew Wiggins but not sure if this really changes much style wise with Thibs. Really the best part of this is just that the drama is over now and we can start looking to move forward with this group.

corky831
11-10-2018, 03:48 PM
Can't believe Philly pulled this off, what a steal.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:48 PM
Name a better 3 in the East than Jimmy-Embiid-Simmons.

Jimmy-Embiid-Kawhi.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:49 PM
Can't believe Philly pulled this off, what a steal.

Steal for now. 5/$190M be a bit rough years later.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:51 PM
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WaDe03
11-10-2018, 03:51 PM
Jimmy-Embiid-Kawhi.

So no team has a better 3?

R. Johnson#3
11-10-2018, 03:53 PM
So outside of JJ Redick who does Philly have that can shoot a good 3 ball? Don't get me wrong, acquiring Jimmy Butler is amazing but they'll have no spacing on offense. I assume Jimmy will play the 3 and JJ will go back to starting 2?

WaDe03
11-10-2018, 03:55 PM
So outside of JJ Redick who does Philly have that can shoot a good 3 ball? Don't get me wrong, acquiring Jimmy Butler is amazing but they'll have no spacing on offense. I assume Jimmy will play the 3 and JJ will go back to starting 2?

I donít think Philly is done, canít see Fultz staying.

Swift Game
11-10-2018, 03:56 PM
So outside of JJ Redick who does Philly have that can shoot a good 3 ball? Don't get me wrong, acquiring Jimmy Butler is amazing but they'll have no spacing on offense. I assume Jimmy will play the 3 and JJ will go back to starting 2?Their glaring weakness was their shooting and now they get worse in that department. They may go after a shooter at the deadline.

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Rivera
11-10-2018, 03:56 PM
So no team has a better 3?

Giannis - Kris - Brogdon

Josh Richardson - Dwayne Wade - Rodney McGruder

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:57 PM
So outside of JJ Redick who does Philly have that can shoot a good 3 ball? Don't get me wrong, acquiring Jimmy Butler is amazing but they'll have no spacing on offense. I assume Jimmy will play the 3 and JJ will go back to starting 2?

Embiid gonna be firing 3's like a mad man.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 03:57 PM
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R. Johnson#3
11-10-2018, 04:01 PM
Embiid gonna be firing 3's like a mad man.

I sure do hope so. He's a terrible 3pt shooter. If he just abandoned that part of his game he'd be even better.

AllBall
11-10-2018, 04:06 PM
:( to be a Boston fan right now. I don't know if we make a desperate move or just stand pat, Philly is def the favorites now.

IMO, Boston is the deepest team in the league. They went to Game 7 of the ECF without their top 2 players.


Riley should have come back around with the offer, versus being a grudge holder. Clearly the Wolves started the season with some idiotic ploy to change Butlers mind. But watching the first 13 games, its clear he doesn't care at all about the Wolves. And the development of the others is stunted. It was time to move on..

Miami got to the EXACT SAME point that the 76ers are at now. The exchange of medical information. Then the Wolves went back on it asking for more draft picks. So instead of a 1st round pick they now get a 2nd round pick. I'm no Economist, but that's just bad math.


Iím done with him man, heís terrible and Miami obviously needs a change. You canít just roll out the same team of role players every year and expect fans to be happy.

Does this mean your going to bandwagon some other team or must we keep putting up with you?


They are 4th best in the east at best. No way are they better than Boston, Toronto and Milwaukee...

This.


Minny had 4 1sts on the table from Houston and couldn't even get one 1st from Philly because of this stupid idea that you shouldn't trade within the conference? Major fail.

Even stupider once the league switches to Top 16 seeding, which is likely to happen within or before the reported draft years.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 04:07 PM
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ewing
11-10-2018, 04:10 PM
Thinking about Jimmy does help the spacing issue on offense some JJ moves back to the starting lineup. There maybe more mins for there bench shooters and while Jimmy isnít a lights out shooter heís not a bad one and he an offense threat that will make defenses cheat more. The issue see is with ball sticking a little with him and Joel


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IndyRealist
11-10-2018, 04:10 PM
Fultz to Cleveland for Korver and a pick works.

ewing
11-10-2018, 04:11 PM
So outside of JJ Redick who does Philly have that can shoot a good 3 ball? Don't get me wrong, acquiring Jimmy Butler is amazing but they'll have no spacing on offense. I assume Jimmy will play the 3 and JJ will go back to starting 2?

Mus and the rookie will probably see more action


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Raps18-19 Champ
11-10-2018, 04:16 PM
Why is Fultz starting? I thought it was obvious to have Reddick as the starting SG and let Fultz have more freedom off the bench.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 04:19 PM
Fultz to Cleveland for Korver and a pick works.

Cleveland sucks though. I doubt they give up a pick. Also Fultz is meh. Not sure what kinda value or any value he has at all. I bet 76ers wished they stood pat at draft with Tatum.

AllBall
11-10-2018, 04:20 PM
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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 04:21 PM
Giannis - Kris - Brogdon

Josh Richardson - Dwayne Wade - Rodney McGruder

I'm hoping Bucks trade Brogdon at trade deadline. He's RFA this summer. I think he peaked for value wise on rookie scale contract. Him at $10M to $12M per or more is meh to me. I'd use him for a trade to dump Delly.

Tg11
11-10-2018, 04:34 PM
Thank God Butler did not go to the Bucks

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 04:53 PM
Thank God Butler did not go to the Bucks

I'd prefer Beal really.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 04:59 PM
I'd prefer Beal really.

Live look at Brand trying to get it done:
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Dade County
11-10-2018, 05:46 PM
I like it for Philly....makes Boston far less of a shoe-in for the east crown.

But he might be a 1yr rental.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 05:50 PM
But he might be a 1yr rental.

76ers will give him the super max of 5/$190M.

Saddletramp
11-10-2018, 05:57 PM
I'm drinking Red Dog. They don't sell 30 packs of Miller High Life in my town here. I only buy 30 packs. Go big or go home. So I was on the Hamm's kick for 30 packs for a year or so. Then I switched to Red Dog.

They still make Red Dog. I drank that **** back in high school. Red Dog? Jesus.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 06:12 PM
They still make Red Dog. I drank that **** back in high school. Red Dog? Jesus.

I got pyramids all over here right now of red dog. You dont like it? I had really bad beers back in the day.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 06:17 PM
They still make Red Dog. I drank that **** back in high school. Red Dog? Jesus.

Nothing like a Schlitz or a Lions Head for HS drinking.

ewing
11-10-2018, 06:21 PM
I got pyramids all over here right now of red dog. You dont like it? I had really bad beers back in the day.

Itís not the champagne of beers.


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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 06:21 PM
Nothing like a Schlitz or a Lions Head for HS drinking.

Schlitz will give you the *****. Blatz will give you the splatz.

Saddletramp
11-10-2018, 06:27 PM
Nothing like a Schlitz or a Lions Head for HS drinking.

We drank Red Dog and Ice House. Then graduated to High Life and Bud Light. Now itís either Heineken, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale or my beloved Shiner Bock. But since September, Iím down to drinking in a week what I used to drink in a night* (and itís mostly Shiraz).


*These ****ing Rockets might amp that up again for me.

Heediot
11-10-2018, 06:27 PM
warfelg is right they don't necessarily need a stretch 4. Ben is the offensive pg and defensive 4. All they need is a nice shooter (to stretch the floor and space) that can defend well and fit within the starters. I agree with ewing too, jj should be starting just for his shooting/spacing.

Jamiecballer
11-10-2018, 06:29 PM
I would have never done that if I was Philly. Saric and Roco were on such good deals.Ditto

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Cal827
11-10-2018, 06:44 PM
They do need to get a 3pt shooter now though.

Simmons
Fultz
Butler
???
Embiid

Embiid is the only constant 3pt threat in the starting lineup (Butler has his spurts though). They also better pray for no injuries as they'll probably be locked into this team after giving Butler that huge max contract in the offseason.

But nontheless, I can't wait for the playoffs. At this point, I can't really pick between the 4 teams out East.

warfelg
11-10-2018, 06:47 PM
They do need to get a 3pt shooter now though.

JJ Reddick? Landry Shamet?

Vinylman
11-10-2018, 07:04 PM
Philly is now the top team in the East and the East is more top heavy than the West for sure.

no they aren't Ö That would be Toronto

beasted86
11-10-2018, 07:11 PM
I love it because Philly will max Butler which will be a huge mistake

Not enough people get this.

I also think Butler and Embiid will get along great. Simmons will have issues with Butler. Bookmark it.

beasted86
11-10-2018, 07:13 PM
They do need to get a 3pt shooter now though.

Simmons
Fultz
Butler
???
Embiid

Embiid is the only constant 3pt threat in the starting lineup (Butler has his spurts though). They also better pray for no injuries as they'll probably be locked into this team after giving Butler that huge max contract in the offseason.

But nontheless, I can't wait for the playoffs. At this point, I can't really pick between the 4 teams out East.

Why do people think Embiid is a 3PT threat?

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:15 PM
Why do people think Embiid is a 3PT threat?

Cause if he's not hitting it, Redick has to. Not much else now.

beasted86
11-10-2018, 07:22 PM
Cause if he's not hitting it, Redick has to. Not much else now.

He's been shooting 30-31% from 3PT last season and this one to start so far. He's not good at it.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:30 PM
I only drink when I game mostly or Bucks TV. Heavily. I remember the old Socom Navy Seals days on PS2 days drinking and clan wars and barely making it to work next day hung over like a dirty dog. Them were glorious days. Sony ****ed up killing Socom.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:31 PM
As for gaming. I started out at age 5 for Atari 2600. Old man river here now wow times have changed.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:32 PM
XBOX 360 when I first got it drunk and **** faced people begging me to kick people from maxed 100 buddy list to add them. I felt the love back then.

Saddletramp
11-10-2018, 07:38 PM
Red Dog bringiní out them feels today.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 07:43 PM
:laugh2: what a light weight

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:46 PM
:laugh2: what a light weight

I'd drink entire PSD posters under the table. Seems all here are lite weights. Lite beer *******.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:48 PM
:laugh2: what a light weight

I take it you got your pinky finger out with some ***** drink.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 07:52 PM
I'd drink all you knumb nuts put together. **** I drink **** faced playing XBOX1 GTA5 darts. I'm the best in the world, 501 wins. Top that ya *****. I been drinking heavy way back when in the old ps2 days of Socom Navys Seals. I got a 8 kill round. 8 kills for those that never played socom is the entire team. Me as a drunk gunner is the best in the business. Old gamer here for XBOX1. On out! Later XMAS noobs! I got over 10K kills for the M-60 alone for Bad Company 2.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 08:04 PM
Yea I donít got time for video games.

Lol sounds like youíre on a good one but donít be fooled, youíre not drinking me under the table. ;)

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 08:05 PM
Lmao and calm down bro, I donít want to see you get banned for some dumb ****.

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 08:42 PM
a couple of things... We just traded a top 30 player who was leading the league in defense this year for a top 10 player... I always thought it would be saric/cov and a first for butler and said that was way to much... I figured Saric and a first was perfect but they clearly wanted saric and cov.... Thib just dodged a bullet getting cov a much better player than richardson.


Hawk will love saric... I was annoyed with saric because he over handles and gets off to slow starts because he plays so much basketball in the off season but he is gritty/tough and the perfect player to put next to towns... Great deal for both teams... Even if the butler thing fails for us trading cov/saric and bayless opens up max cap dollars for us to sign someone next year.


The only sucky thing about this trade is the sixers will be without butler/saric/cov the next 2 to 3 games... feels bad because we not winning a back to back at memphis with saric/cov/chandler all out.


As for what our starting unit should be.

Simmons
Embiid
Butler
reddick
Shamet

Fultz off the bench to learn and further himself while having the ball in his hands everytime ben sits will make this team dangerous.

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 08:44 PM
Lol the best part is we still have our own picks/heat unprotected pick/fultz/simmons/embiid/shamet/Bolden and our top 10 pick from last year who will be back come december in terms of young players and assets.


We are hella lucky to hit on shamet honestly.

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 08:45 PM
also i thought sources had him as a heat?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? : )

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 08:48 PM
I love the heat fan and bucks fans in here outside of wade who is sticking to his guns trying to act like they dont want and never wanted butler now that he is a sixer... :laugh:

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 08:51 PM
Ditto

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we had saric for 2 more years... No way we can resign him with giving embiid his deal and eventually signing simmons nor would saric be the max money player he will likely want. We still have a ton of young talent but cant keep running out guys like saric/cov who cant get us a bucket in a game over a 7 minute span like last night and it happens far to much. Now if butler doesnt work out we can just let him walk and use max money elsewhere. I am more sad about giving up cov then i am saric.

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 08:52 PM
do not ****ing trade for korver... i love korver he is one of my favorite sixers but we dont need his horrid defense just for him to hit 2 or 3 shots a game... **** off with that. We are not giving up fultz for korver either lol... just stop.


Whoops my bad... fultz for 2 2nds right? like embiid for 2 2nds :laugh:

beasted86
11-10-2018, 09:31 PM
I love the heat fan and bucks fans in here outside of wade who is sticking to his guns trying to act like they dont want and never wanted butler now that he is a sixer... :laugh:

Who are you talking about? If you're going to talk **** might as well put your whole foot in it.

Anyway, Sixers as is will improve since Covington was inconsistent trash (overrated only by you and no other 76ers fans) and Saric was a big disappointment thus far into the season. But paying Butler $35M is never a good idea unless he's the final puzzle piece or you're a small market desperate team with no other option.

If chemistry is off like the PG13 trade I think it'll be a repeat situation. Meaning, he's not staying UNLESS it's a full fledged max.

kyubi256
11-10-2018, 09:34 PM
Damn must be nice to have so many assets... Feel this doesn't hurt Philly at all

ewing
11-10-2018, 09:43 PM
a couple of things... We just traded a top 30 player who was leading the league in defense this year for a top 10 player... I always thought it would be saric/cov and a first for butler and said that was way to much... I figured Saric and a first was perfect but they clearly wanted saric and cov.... Thib just dodged a bullet getting cov a much better player than richardson.


Hawk will love saric... I was annoyed with saric because he over handles and gets off to slow starts because he plays so much basketball in the off season but he is gritty/tough and the perfect player to put next to towns... Great deal for both teams... Even if the butler thing fails for us trading cov/saric and bayless opens up max cap dollars for us to sign someone next year.


The only sucky thing about this trade is the sixers will be without butler/saric/cov the next 2 to 3 games... feels bad because we not winning a back to back at memphis with saric/cov/chandler all out.


As for what our starting unit should be.

Simmons
Embiid
Butler
reddick
Shamet

Fultz off the bench to learn and further himself while having the ball in his hands everytime ben sits will make this team dangerous.

I like that starting lineup. Just keep Fultz on the bench


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beasted86
11-10-2018, 10:03 PM
Simmons
Embiid
Butler
reddick
Shamet

Fultz off the bench to learn and further himself while having the ball in his hands everytime ben sits will make this team dangerous.

This is what it should be. Or maybe TJ instead of Shamet. This is only choice 76ers have. Starting Fultz no longer an option if they want success.

They also should be seeking a trade for a bench scorer.

If they're really going all in, they should wait for Washington to announce a fire sale and offer Chandler + 1st for Morris + Oubre.

IKnowHoops
11-10-2018, 10:12 PM
oh no! They traded a top 25 player last year for Butler! I wonder where Butler ranks in RPM



In all seriousness though, great move. They have a legit #2 scorer now defense doesnt get messed with and from what is read, they will give Butler a long term extension to make a new Big 3.


Traded 2 role players for a star, Great move

😂😂😂

Jamiecballer
11-10-2018, 10:14 PM
Are we sure this has any bearing on Fultz or Redick? I mean they SHOULD have had Fultz nailed to the bench before and they chose immediate pain for what they thought was long term gain.

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QBAwayBroncos
11-10-2018, 10:22 PM
Are you saying that you think they are giving up on Fultz?


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How would this mean they are giving up on fultz? Do people not realize what this does for fultz development? Having a straight Savage dog beast of a SG to back up and learn from? Fultz and Reddick off the bench is going to be a beast of a punch along with shame and bolden and company..... This is awesome for fultz, and awesome for our bench.

QBAwayBroncos
11-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Wall has a trade kicker this season. Unless he waives it. But Wall next year is like $39M. Yeesh. Then if Butler wants 5/$190M besides Embiid's max. That's your team and barely a bench.
John Wall is fat and slow

QBAwayBroncos
11-10-2018, 10:35 PM
Unlikely to be Chandler. Heís on a restriction.

Fultz
Reddick
Butler
Simmons
Embiid

Is likely the starters with TJ, Shamet, Chandler, Muscala, Johnson bench.

That starting line up is deadly. Fultz will start turning it on soon. Having number one overall pick as your 4th option is cray

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 10:55 PM
I like that starting lineup. Just keep Fultz on the bench


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i agree with you 100 percent... credit for saying it all along. I figured fultz/ben would grow and work but its not worth... fultz off the bench is still giving him plenty of time... as long as he gets like 20 minutes a game he can continue to grow. Him and simmons need the ball in their hands... cant have them together... Its a shame really because we probably wasted some wins so far because of it but whatever.

ewing
11-10-2018, 11:03 PM
How would this mean they are giving up on fultz? Do people not realize what this does for fultz development? Having a straight Savage dog beast of a SG to back up and learn from? Fultz and Reddick off the bench is going to be a beast of a punch along with shame and bolden and company..... This is awesome for fultz, and awesome for our bench.

Are you ok?


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QBAwayBroncos
11-10-2018, 11:20 PM
Are you ok?


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No.

RatbagTheCoward
11-10-2018, 11:45 PM
Not even a Sixers fan but I imagine they'll really miss the spacing that Covington and Saric provided. It'll be worth it if Butler is really hoping to resign though.

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 12:14 AM
If I am Philly, I would have traded Fultz instead of RoCo.

Scoots
11-11-2018, 12:18 AM
The number 2 and 4 minute players and the #2 and #3 biggest players getting significant minutes. That's going to be an interesting adjustment.

More-Than-Most
11-11-2018, 12:42 AM
If I am Philly, I would have traded Fultz instead of RoCo.

2 reasons why you cant... 1 you dont sell low.... it would have cost fultz/saric and a future first which is silly... 2 the money... rookie contract vs covs... covs deal isnt bad but we need to pay ben/butler while paying embiid etc etc etc. Now if butler walks we have max cap space to add a KL or someone of that nature.

CityofTreez
11-11-2018, 12:56 AM
If I am Philly, I would have traded Fultz instead of RoCo.

Who responds to this Knicks/Sonics troll

Jamiecballer
11-11-2018, 01:27 AM
If I am Philly, I would have traded Fultz instead of RoCo.So would I but I would be shocked if Minnesota still makes the deal then.

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IKnowHoops
11-11-2018, 01:35 AM
As a Bulls fan, I think we definitely won that trade now..lol

You killed that trade now. Itís awful if your a Eolves fan.

IKnowHoops
11-11-2018, 01:38 AM
The Wolves ended up trading Markkanen, Lavine, and Dunn for Saric and Covington lol.

Can't blame them for shooting their shot, sometimes things don't work out.

Bro, it falls in line with the history of terrible moves and decisions by the Wolves. Iím mad at Thibs now. Just trash

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 01:38 AM
2 reasons why you cant... 1 you dont sell low.... it would have cost fultz/saric and a future first which is silly... 2 the money... rookie contract vs covs... covs deal isnt bad but we need to pay ben/butler while paying embiid etc etc etc. Now if butler walks we have max cap space to add a KL or someone of that nature.

It would work if Minny wanted Fultz. I'm guessing they had no interest. Really, what's Fultz value worth right now? I saw him shooting a FT last night and the dude looked like he never touched a basketball in his life before.

IKnowHoops
11-11-2018, 01:39 AM
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Kendall must be bringin the funk. Dudes love her

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 01:43 AM
Kendall must be bringin the funk. Dudes love her

She's the second ugliest daughter of the Kardashian+Jenner family. Not sure why he's interested in her. She looks like a regular white girl who has rich parents.

CityofTreez
11-11-2018, 01:46 AM
Kendall must be bringin the funk. Dudes love her

Haha you couldnít even afford her ***** lol

CityofTreez
11-11-2018, 01:48 AM
She's the second ugliest daughter of the Kardashian+Jenner family. Not sure why he's interested in her. She looks like a regular white girl who has rich parents.

Is this guy serious....like he could even think of touching any Jennerís cutter over a keyboard

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 02:03 AM
Is this guy serious....like he could even think of touching any Jennerís cutter over a keyboard

wtf is your problem dude? you act like you're ten.

More-Than-Most
11-11-2018, 02:06 AM
It would work if Minny wanted Fultz. I'm guessing they had no interest. Really, what's Fultz value worth right now? I saw him shooting a FT last night and the dude looked like he never touched a basketball in his life before.

true but he is still progressing... he balled out tonight. He needs to come off the bench for a year... Whats hilarious to me is how the top 3 guys from the draft are all playing like **** and 2 of the 3 have broken shots so far in a draft that was overrated so very badly like the draft is every year... No way the wolves take fultz/saric... it would have had to been fultz/saric/1st and a 2nd... Fultz has no real value and neither does ball right now when the lakers trade him... Celtics are lucky... how everyone in the league loves tatum even with his poor performance this year they could get anything they want for him.... of the 3 he is the only 1 with value.... sixers would be stupid to trade fultz when his value is this low... play him as main Ball handler off the bench for the rest of the year and watch his stock rise with games like tonight.

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 02:09 AM
true but he is still progressing... he balled out tonight. He needs to come off the bench for a year... Whats hilarious to me is how the top 3 guys from the draft are all playing like **** and 2 of the 3 have broken shots so far in a draft that was overrated so very badly like the draft is every year... No way the wolves take fultz/saric... it would have had to been fultz/saric/1st and a 2nd... Fultz has no real value and neither does ball right now when the lakers trade him... Celtics are lucky... how everyone in the league loves tatum even with his poor performance this year they could get anything they want for him.... of the 3 he is the only 1 with value.... sixers would be stupid to trade fultz when his value is this low... play him as main Ball handler off the bench for the rest of the year and watch his stock rise with games like tonight.

Fultz value along with Ball will depend on their shooting. If they can't shoot, they are just going to be taking the ball away from players who can handle the ball better. I rather have Ball than Fultz (they're both doing bad so far) because he seems to be a better shooter and a more capable overall player than Fultz but yeah, Tatum+Ball+Fultz haven't started the season playing good basketball so far. What a weird draft that was.

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 02:14 AM
true but he is still progressing... he balled out tonight. He needs to come off the bench for a year... Whats hilarious to me is how the top 3 guys from the draft are all playing like **** and 2 of the 3 have broken shots so far in a draft that was overrated so very badly like the draft is every year... No way the wolves take fultz/saric... it would have had to been fultz/saric/1st and a 2nd... Fultz has no real value and neither does ball right now when the lakers trade him... Celtics are lucky... how everyone in the league loves tatum even with his poor performance this year they could get anything they want for him.... of the 3 he is the only 1 with value.... sixers would be stupid to trade fultz when his value is this low... play him as main Ball handler off the bench for the rest of the year and watch his stock rise with games like tonight.

Idk man. I really think RoCo+Butler+Ben+J.J.+Embiid would cause some damage and likely make the Finals. They would have three very good perimeter defenders (two All-NBA perimeter defenders in RoCo+Butler) and Embiid is a DPOY candidate. That's three very elite defenders and a very good defender in Ben Simmons. RoCo's ability to spread the floor will be missed. I'm not sure where guys like Fultz fits in. I'm looking at DeAaron Fox right now and man, this guy is putting Lonzo and Fultz in the backpocket. He came into the league with no three point shot and today he was draining three in a row with a clean looking shot.

More-Than-Most
11-11-2018, 02:18 AM
Idk man. I really think RoCo+Butler+Ben+J.J.+Embiid would cause some damage and likely make the Finals. They would have three very good perimeter defenders (two All-NBA perimeter defenders in RoCo+Butler) and Embiid is a DPOY candidate. That's three very elite defenders and a very good defender in Ben Simmons. RoCo's ability to spread the floor will be missed. I'm not sure where guys like Fultz fits in. I'm looking at DeAaron Fox right now and man, this guy is putting Lonzo and Fultz in the backpocket. He came into the league with no three point shot and today he was draining three in a row with a clean looking shot.

yea but then we are basically screwed if butler walks... we would have to free up cap which would be hard for a max player. Cov deal had to come off... and I would rather deal cov over keeping cov and dealing fultz plus a first. We would likely have given up that heat 1st and that has some serious value considering how bad they will end up down the line.

I love cov... i can promise the bulls are about to go on a run with cov/saric... that is why i laughed at the notion of richardson and a future first from the heat... saric and cov help them out far more than richardson and a future first... cov is better than richardson and saric has more upside over richardson... heat fans were just delusional. This is actually a good deal for both sides... Now giving up levine/dunn etc is what hurts the wolves lol

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 02:22 AM
yea but then we are basically screwed if butler walks... we would have to free up cap which would be hard for a max player. Cov deal had to come off... and I would rather deal cov over keeping cov and dealing fultz plus a first. We would likely have given up that heat 1st and that has some serious value considering how bad they will end up down the line.

I love cov... i can promise the bulls are about to go on a run with cov/saric... that is why i laughed at the notion of richardson and a future first from the heat... saric and cov help them out far more than richardson and a future first... cov is better than richardson and saric has more upside over richardson... heat fans were just delusional. This is actually a good deal for both sides... Now giving up levine/dunn etc is what hurts the wolves lol

Give up Ben Simmons and Covington for Anthony Davis.

More-Than-Most
11-11-2018, 02:30 AM
Give up Ben Simmons and Covington for Anthony Davis.

lol it would take simmons/cov/heat first/our first/plus the dude we just drafted that is injured... It would have gutted us and as good as AD is id rather not have AD/Embiid clogging everything up in a league that relies so much on outside shooting... that is why i didnt think the AD/cousins thing would work.... The only thing the sixers now need is progression from ben and fultz and i think we can beat the celtics but it really comes down to our coach. I think our coach is hella dumb

zn23
11-11-2018, 03:42 AM
They traded away their last remaining 3pt shooters for Butler who is hit or miss as a shooter.

I'm assuming they'll have to send Fultz to the bench now. Have Simmons bring up the ball with Butler as the SG. Otherwise, they will be incapable of hitting 3s.

Alayla
11-11-2018, 04:10 AM
If I was Brand right now I'd be bending over Backwards for one of Love Or Beal.

Alayla
11-11-2018, 04:15 AM
They traded away their last remaining 3pt shooters for Butler who is hit or miss as a shooter.

I'm assuming they'll have to send Fultz to the bench now. Have Simmons bring up the ball with Butler as the SG. Otherwise, they will be incapable of hitting 3s.

Shamet Redick Chandler Bulter and Muscala can all still shoot the 3 at an average or better clip and Embiid at a below average one but still able to hit some when needed. It's not like it's a team of none shooters.

More-Than-Most
11-11-2018, 05:11 AM
If I was Brand right now I'd be bending over Backwards for one of Love Or Beal.

you and brand would be fired. I am all for beal but love would be the dumbest move in the history of the sport... He is trash... He is hurt and he just singed for 4 years 120 million... nobody should want love period. Beal though would be amazing.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-11-2018, 09:39 AM
Curious what it take to get Beal. Since Butler went at low value.

IndyRealist
11-11-2018, 10:46 AM
Curious what it take to get Beal. Since Butler went at low value.

Beal hasn't asked to be traded?

Alayla
11-11-2018, 11:19 AM
Love is far from trash and Simmons Embiid Bulter Love would be a treat to watch idc what anyone thinks
If it took fultz a pick and some filler it would be worth it

Vinylman
11-11-2018, 01:50 PM
mirotic at the deadline

Alayla
11-11-2018, 02:02 PM
mirotic at the deadline

I'd rather just try and sign him with the 16 mil or so we would have available in the offseason.
If it came to that.

Vinylman
11-11-2018, 02:06 PM
I'd rather just try and sign him with the 16 mil or so we would have available in the offseason.
If it came to that.

you'll need the shooting this year... plus if you trade for him you will have his bird rights

warfelg
11-11-2018, 02:24 PM
mirotic at the deadline

Rather see is Ryno get bought out in PHX where heís barely playing.

Alayla
11-11-2018, 04:59 PM
you'll need the shooting this year... plus if you trade for him you will have his bird rights

Nobody is beating golden state this year regardless.

Vinylman
11-11-2018, 05:57 PM
Rather see is Ryno get bought out in PHX where heís barely playing.

good idea actually

Vinylman
11-11-2018, 05:59 PM
Nobody is beating golden state this year regardless.

what does that have to do with adding a guy to get you to the finals... You need to get the team through the east this year. That can have significant implications for FA next summer.

Alayla
11-11-2018, 07:22 PM
what does that have to do with adding a guy to get you to the finals... You need to get the team through the east this year. That can have significant implications for FA next summer.

No becuase atfer resigning Butler then Mirotic we wouldn't have any cap anyway.

More-Than-Most
11-12-2018, 02:17 AM
Love is far from trash and Simmons Embiid Bulter Love would be a treat to watch idc what anyone thinks
If it took fultz a pick and some filler it would be worth it

Love is trash... He cant defend at all.. sure he can stretch the floor BUT HE CANT DEFEND and makes 140 million over 4 years... unless we are getting 9 first round picks to take that salary its a no... it would literally nuke our team going forward... you think we can resign butler if we have that contract? If you have that contract you can say goodbye to butler or you can have butler but say goodbye to reddick and others on top of getting killed by the luxury once we have to sign ben... Ben will hit the cap for 24 million dollars in 2 years... between him/embiid/love we would already be over the cap i believe or around it... with butler we are waaaaaaaaay over... Love is a horrid horrid terribly horrid idea

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 08:42 AM
Beal hasn't asked to be traded?

Just speculating if Wizards blow it up.

ewing
11-12-2018, 11:13 AM
Based on Covís status as a top 20 player in league losing him and Dario should hurt the Sixers


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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 11:15 AM
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/11/financial-impact-of-jimmy-butler-blockbuster.html

Breakdown of the trade. Also talks about cap now and next summer for both sides.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 11:33 AM
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Pelicans tried to get Butler but didn't want to cough up Holiday.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 11:54 AM
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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 01:43 PM
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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 02:13 PM
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25245073/adrian-wojnarowski-look-final-days-jimmy-butler-saga-nba

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 02:28 PM
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MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-12-2018, 02:33 PM
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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/11/details-on-rockets-pelicans-trade-offers-for-butler.html

Chronz
11-12-2018, 03:12 PM
They'll regret not getting that Josh contract

Hawkeye15
11-12-2018, 03:18 PM
They'll regret not getting that Josh contract

well there is a long list of regrets for the Wolves, what's another one?

WaDe03
11-12-2018, 03:23 PM
I love the heat fan and bucks fans in here outside of wade who is sticking to his guns trying to act like they dont want and never wanted butler now that he is a sixer... :laugh:

Yea Iím ****ing pissed about it. Pat is garbage now, he needs to leave when Wade does because heís completely screwed withot him. Wade brought Miamiís success not Pat (who didnít want to draft Wade). Miami is who they are because of him.

Sources did have him to the Heat but as reported talks fell through at the last second. Pats dumbass took JRich off the table for good after.

WaDe03
11-12-2018, 03:30 PM
Guess thereís no point in my clownin Covington (who JRich has been far better than this year) anymore without MTM to battle with. It was fun while it lasted brother!