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kdspurman
11-09-2018, 01:05 PM
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kdspurman
11-09-2018, 01:06 PM
Last Nights Results:


Cal827: 4-0
ewing: 3-1
L+G:3-1
Tg11: 2-2
tredigs: 2-2
WaDe03: 2-2
bucketss: 2-2
Rivera: 2-2
kdspurs: 2-2
Saddletramp: 2-2
MTM: 2-2

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This Weeks Results:

Wade03 18-9
KDSpur 18-9
MtM 18-9
L+G 18-9
cal827 18-9
bucketss 16-11
tredigs 14-9
Silent 13-10
Saddletramp 15-12
Riv 15-12
buckalis 10-13
Ewing 10-7
warfleg 4-5

Results for last night and this week

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-09-2018, 02:53 PM
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Tg11
11-09-2018, 03:16 PM
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76ers
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nuggets
Celtics
Kings

ewing
11-09-2018, 03:22 PM
76ers
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nuggets
Celtics
Kings

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-09-2018, 03:31 PM
Is there something brewing between KP and Fizdale? KP posted picture of himself doing sprints. Fizdale must of ticked KP off possibly.

Tg11
11-09-2018, 03:36 PM
Either way all things are not looking good in New York and to think the Knicks play tomorrow against the red hot Raptors

Lakers + Giants
11-09-2018, 03:56 PM
76ers
Wizards
Pistons
Heat
Nuggets
Jazz
Kings

ewing
11-09-2018, 05:05 PM
Is there something brewing between KP and Fizdale? KP posted picture of himself doing sprints. Fizdale must of ticked KP off possibly.

doubt it.

ewing
11-09-2018, 05:10 PM
Either way all things are not looking good in New York and to think the Knicks play tomorrow against the red hot Raptors

things look good it NY. They aren't going to win a lot of games but everyone is high on Knox, Mitchell Robinson has great defensive potential, Allonzo Tier is a find (he's an NBA player), Noah Vonleh looks like he could be a very good small ball center/energy guy off the bench, and Tim Hardaway is playing like he is worth his contract. They are going to lose a lot of games this year but they had a very good off season and appear like they have added some guys that could part of something if they get back KP and add some top line talent.

Saddletramp
11-09-2018, 05:48 PM
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Sixers
Magic
Pistons
Heat
Nuggets
Jazz
Kings

bucketss
11-09-2018, 05:56 PM
sixers,magic,hawks,heat,nuggets,jazz,kings

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 06:12 PM
things look good it NY. They aren't going to win a lot of games but everyone is high on Knox, Mitchell Robinson has great defensive potential, Allonzo Tier is a find (he's an NBA player), Noah Vonleh looks like he could be a very good small ball center/energy guy off the bench, and Tim Hardaway is playing like he is worth his contract. They are going to lose a lot of games this year but they had a very good off season and appear like they have added some guys that could part of something if they get back KP and add some top line talent.

Man, Vonleh has REALLY bulked up. I didnt even recognize him playing the other day. I was wondering who the jacked *** big man was and then he went to the line and I was shocked it was him. Yall took a gamble on Robinson and he is looking worth it so far! Yeah, things aren't so bad in NY.

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 06:18 PM
Also, I hope Rudy puts Hayward's **** into the stands and Mitchell puts him on a poster and he leaves crying.

Pretty pumped for the game tonight. Ain't gonna be "just another game" like Hayward wants.

ewing
11-09-2018, 06:34 PM
Man, Vonleh has REALLY bulked up. I didnt even recognize him playing the other day. I was wondering who the jacked *** big man was and then he went to the line and I was shocked it was him. Yall took a gamble on Robinson and he is looking worth it so far! Yeah, things aren't so bad in NY.

Yeah Iím starting to think Scott Perry might have a real eye for talent. I like Knoxs, Robinson could turn into nothing but he could also turn into real steal, and Trier is legit. Orlando also wound up with a lot of good young talent with him (victor, Tobias, Payton, Gordon). They need some luck but I like the direction in NY.


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ewing
11-09-2018, 06:41 PM
Also, I hope Rudy puts Hayward's **** into the stands and Mitchell puts him on a poster and he leaves crying.

Pretty pumped for the game tonight. Ain't gonna be "just another game" like Hayward wants.

Utah is always a tough place to play. Should be fun with a little extra. Iím glad itís an ESPN game


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kdspurman
11-09-2018, 07:54 PM
Sixers
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nuggets
Jazz
Kings

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 07:54 PM
76ers
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nuggets
Celtics
wolves

Cal827
11-09-2018, 08:11 PM
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Philly
Orlando
Detroit
Miami
Denver
Utah
Sacramento

Vee-Rex
11-09-2018, 08:38 PM
I've watched 2 full Cavs games this year (largely due to dropping so much time into Black Ops 4). But I WILL be watching the Celtics and Jazz tonight.

Kyrie has been playing like a bonafide superstar after the slow start from his injury return. His detractors really should be paying attention.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:10 PM
you wanna see why covington is the best defender in basketball? see what he did to kemba tonight. Now the sixers are going to blow this because the refs decide that they have the money line on the game and need to take over... the first 2 minutes of the 4th they put the sixers in the penalty with 5 fouls... 2 of which the guy wasnt even touched.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:11 PM
lmfao MORE FOULS...seems legit... its like our 10th through 5 minutes of the 4th

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:14 PM
gotta put the MVP back in or we ****ed.

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 10:18 PM
I've watched 2 full Cavs games this year (largely due to dropping so much time into Black Ops 4). But I WILL be watching the Celtics and Jazz tonight.

Kyrie has been playing like a bonafide superstar after the slow start from his injury return. His detractors really should be paying attention.

And he's not playing tonight.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:21 PM
lmfao this is such a joke.

zn23
11-09-2018, 10:23 PM
If you wanna watch a complete disaster unfold, watch the first half of the Magic vs. Wizards game, that was absolutely embarrassing.

This team need to get blown up right away cause I cannot see them coming back. No defense, poor offense and just a bad mix of players.

John Wall's reputation is in the toilet as far as I'm concerned. I would not want him on my team.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:29 PM
17 points for kemba in the 4th

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:29 PM
eventually we will be able to hold a big lead after half... its only been 1 plus years with no adjustments.

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 10:32 PM
And of course this garbage *** college game is gonna go to OT.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:32 PM
joel is a ****ing monster man... holy **** he is a monster

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:32 PM
joel and kemba going the **** at it in the 4th lol

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:33 PM
best player in the world people.... BEST IN THE WORLD.

basch152
11-09-2018, 10:37 PM
another embiid flop.

smh

he's getting himself an awful reputation

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:38 PM
another embiid flop.

smh

he's getting himself an awful reputation

just stop... they just showed that **** like 5 times... embiid put his weight on zeller and he moved leaving embiid fall. I will show you it from like 9 different angles after this game... it was a swim move by zeller letting embiid fall.

basch152
11-09-2018, 10:40 PM
just stop... they just showed that **** like 5 times... embiid put his weight on zeller and he moved leaving embiid fall. I will show you it from like 9 different angles after this game... it was a swim move by zeller letting embiid fall.

dude, you stop. I've now seen it from about 4 different angles.

embiid doesn't start falling for more than a full second after zeller moved in front of him.

it was a flop in the same way you tried arguing that it wasnwasnt last time.

a full second is an exaggeration but he doesnt start falling right when Zeller moved, hes clearly flopping there.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:41 PM
dude, you stop. I've now seen it from about 4 different angles.

embiid doesn't start falling for more than a full second after zeller moved in front of him.

it was a flop in the same way you tried arguing that it wasnwasnt last time.

just enjoy watching the best player in the sport... Like I said i got angles for you after the game i am all for you showing me what you saw exactly because even the announcers called it a swim move from zeller... when your 7 foot 2 270 and you have your weight on a dude he will go down everytime if you move.

basch152
11-09-2018, 10:42 PM
I used to enjoy watching. now literally every time I've watched him this year he's flopped. dont really care for him anymore.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:43 PM
overtime is not good for us with a back to back and ben/fultz/cov having 5 fouls each

basch152
11-09-2018, 10:47 PM
I've consistantly seen this foul called over the years and it always annoys me. both players jump up for the ball there's contact...so they call a foul.

should be a clear no call.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:49 PM
joel embiid flopping into the crowd to save the ball like a boss and help us go up 3.

basch152
11-09-2018, 10:49 PM
there's been I think 75ish goddamn free throws this game.

they are calling way too much ******** on both sides

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:49 PM
saric has been a ****ing idiot in overtime man.

ewing
11-09-2018, 10:51 PM
overtime is not good for us with a back to back and ben/fultz/cov having 5 fouls each

Why would you want Fultz in the game?


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basch152
11-09-2018, 10:51 PM
like that. that's seriously a foul? it's been bad for both sides but jesus christ, looking at embiid wrong gets you a foul.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:51 PM
there's been I think 75ish goddamn free throws this game.

they are calling way too much ******** on both sides

from the 4th on its become a free throw contest. Its been a theme this year overall which is another reason why the scoring across the league is up.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:52 PM
Why would you want Fultz in the game?


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having ben and fultz out would be really bad.

ewing
11-09-2018, 10:54 PM
having ben and fultz out would be really bad.

TJ is better. Right now Joel has to carry the world.


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More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:56 PM
TJ is better. Right now Joel has to carry the world.


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joel is def having to carry with early season saric/ben struggles and TJ is better than fultz... I dont disagree.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 10:58 PM
got a bad feeling kemba will hit this 3 and a foul from someone stupid

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:00 PM
ben simmons with that massive block wow.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:00 PM
42/19/4 with 4 blocks..... best player in the ****ing world.

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:02 PM
embiid calling ben one of the best defenders in the league : )

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:02 PM
just remember when i said this dude was the most talented player since lebron james.

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 11:03 PM
Jesus Christ, Utah with about 4 of the worst turnovers you'll ever see. Unfortunately pretty common for this team. **** you shouldn't see in a HS game.

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 11:08 PM
just remember when i said this dude was the most talented player since lebron james.

How many times a week do you jerk off to a picture of yourself?

CityofTreez
11-09-2018, 11:13 PM
Embiid is the man. Love this kid!

ewing
11-09-2018, 11:15 PM
Love Arron Baynes Rambo headband. quality role player


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More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:19 PM
How many times a week do you jerk off to a picture of yourself?

would that be gay because I am jerking off to a dude?

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 11:28 PM
would that be gay because I am jerking off to a dude?

Nah, what makes it weird is you doing it in a Power Ranger outfit while choking yourself with a used Embiid headband.

ewing
11-09-2018, 11:35 PM
Wow great half from Engles. Love watching him and Rudy. Was great how Joe picked up his dribble and made the right read on the last screen roll instead of forcing something. Dudes a winner


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JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 11:40 PM
Wow great half from Engles. Love watching him and Rudy. Was great how Joe picked up his dribble and made the right read on the last screen roll instead of forcing something. Dudes a winner


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Joe is definitely a player everybody would love to have on their team. Plays within himself. He's absolutely on fire tonight too, had the drive working and parlayed that into some space to shoot later in the 2nd. Good **** and Donovan hasn't had to do much. Could be a huge lead if it wasn't for a bunch of garbage TOs. I've seen Hawkeye say Rubio is the greatest pure passer he's ever seen....couldn't disagree more. He good but he makes some horrible passes on a nightly basis.

JAZZNC
11-09-2018, 11:55 PM
Jazz seem to be really going at Hayward. Loving it!

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:58 PM
Nah, what makes it weird is you doing it in a Power Ranger outfit while choking yourself with a used Embiid headband.

Its like you can see right into my bedroom lol

More-Than-Most
11-09-2018, 11:59 PM
i just looked at my picks and i thought i changed my pick from the celtics to the jazz but i never submitted the edit... fml. Could have been a perfect night depending on the nuggets game

zn23
11-10-2018, 12:02 AM
Utah is playing like Utah. Hope they win. Celtics should've lost yesterday against the Suns as well. Another loss distances themselves from the Raps.

tredigs
11-10-2018, 12:12 AM
In-played Denver a few times including right now down 3.

+money. Give me the better team @home to close.

JAZZNC
11-10-2018, 12:13 AM
Its like you can see right into my bedroom lol

I wish more people on this forum has your sense of humor/ability to take a joke!

dhopisthename
11-10-2018, 12:20 AM
you can always count on the Jazz offense to have a 5 minute stretch of complete crap.

ewing
11-10-2018, 12:23 AM
A lot of intensity for a game that isnít that close Utah. Really like both these teams and Boston definitely needs Kyrie if they are going to be a legit contender


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ewing
11-10-2018, 12:24 AM
Also good to see Morris seeming to find some consistency this year. Heís very skilled


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ewing
11-10-2018, 12:26 AM
Joe is definitely a player everybody would love to have on their team. Plays within himself. He's absolutely on fire tonight too, had the drive working and parlayed that into some space to shoot later in the 2nd. Good **** and Donovan hasn't had to do much. Could be a huge lead if it wasn't for a bunch of garbage TOs. I've seen Hawkeye say Rubio is the greatest pure passer he's ever seen....couldn't disagree more. He good but he makes some horrible passes on a nightly basis.

He had a couple doozys tonight. He doesnít have the handle to create passing lanes like Ricky but I honestly feel Engles reads the floor just as well but Iím a total homer for that kid


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JAZZNC
11-10-2018, 12:28 AM
you can always count on the Jazz offense to have a 5 minute stretch of complete crap.

And it almost always involves several awful, inexcusable turnovers. Like some of these passes are just a joke. There's been close to 10 this game.

dhopisthename
11-10-2018, 12:31 AM
And it almost always involves several awful, inexcusable turnovers. Like some of these passes are just a joke. There's been close to 10 this game.

yeah the turnovers this team creates on themselves are incredible. just like already being out of bounds before you catch the ball. like part of it you can't control with how much we pass in this offense, but a ton of of it is self inflicted.

tredigs
11-10-2018, 12:34 AM
In-played Denver a few times including right now down 3.

+money. Give me the better team @home to close.
Boom, roasted.

Denver had the lead with a minute to go. Embarrassed themselves.

kdspurman
11-10-2018, 12:35 AM
Nuggets ruining a potential perfect night. Tho the Kings and Jazz still could drop

zn23
11-10-2018, 12:36 AM
The reality of not having Will Barton is starting to set in for the Nuggets now. They really only have 3 guys that can score, the rest can shoot. But If one of them has an off night, It makes it very hard to win.

Gary was really bad tonight offensively and defensively. Now they've dropped 2 in a row and I have a feeling they're going to lose much more frequently as well.

Their schedule is about to get a lot tougher. They play Milwaukee next, then they play the Rockets (who they haven't beaten in 2 years), then New Orleans and then Milwaukee again.

tredigs
11-10-2018, 12:41 AM
Jokic shoots 1 shot one night, 22 the next. That team has no balance, no leaders.

ohreally
11-10-2018, 12:44 AM
Nets overcame lots of phantom fouls ans beat Denver at Denver. Wake up folks, the Nets are a good and deep team. Other than one game against Indiana on a the tail end of a back to back, theyíve played good teams very well and have had a chance to win in most if not all of those games. And they still have some guys not playing up to what theyíre capable of. Kurucs and Musa both look like they can play, and they have Pinson and Williams as two-ways.

tredigs
11-10-2018, 12:48 AM
Nets overcame lots of phantom fouls ans beat Denver at Denver. Wake up folks, the Nets are a good and deep team. Other than one game against Indiana on a the tail end of a back to back, theyíve played good teams very well and have had a chance to win in most if not all of those games. And they still have some guys not playing up to what theyíre capable of. Kurucs and Musa both look like they can play, and they have Pinson and Williams as two-ways.

They are a scrappy team el dupe', but that's all you got. They might scrap their way to a 2nd round playoff blowout if everything works in their favor

ohreally
11-10-2018, 12:51 AM
The reality of not having Will Barton is starting to set in for the Nuggets now. They really only have 3 guys that can score, the rest can shoot. But If one of them has an off night, It makes it very hard to win.

Gary was really bad tonight offensively and defensively. Now they've dropped 2 in a row and I have a feeling they're going to lose much more frequently as well.

Their schedule is about to get a lot tougher. They play Milwaukee next, then they play the Rockets (who they haven't beaten in 2 years), then New Orleans and then Milwaukee again.

The Nets won. It wasnít the Nuggetsí loss, it was the Netsí win.

ewing
11-10-2018, 12:52 AM
And it almost always involves several awful, inexcusable turnovers. Like some of these passes are just a joke. There's been close to 10 this game.

If it wasnít for ugly turnovers the Celtics would be out of the game but when stuff get to grind in the 4th Mitchell canít disappear either. Dude is your only one on one threAt


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ewing
11-10-2018, 12:52 AM
Rudy is just a great defensive player


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ewing
11-10-2018, 12:57 AM
Btw itís ok for Marcus Smart to have 8 three point attempts in todayís nba. He did hit 4


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dhopisthename
11-10-2018, 12:57 AM
that looked like a no call or an offensive foul. terrible call.

ewing
11-10-2018, 01:00 AM
that looked like a no call or an offensive foul. terrible call.

I didnít think Mitchell got fouled on the one before it either. Both guys just threw themselves into the defense


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ewing
11-10-2018, 01:00 AM
Jay Crowder with 9 three point attempts


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JAZZNC
11-10-2018, 01:01 AM
2 clutch ones from Mitchell. Some HUGE defensive plays by Rudy. That's what the best defensive player in the NBA looks like!

dhopisthename
11-10-2018, 01:01 AM
I didnít think Mitchell got fouled on the one before it either. Both guys just threw themselves into the defense


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I kinda thought the same thing, but we got zero replays of it.

JAZZNC
11-10-2018, 01:01 AM
Some straight garbage on Mitchell. Come on.

ewing
11-10-2018, 01:02 AM
2 clutch ones from Mitchell. Some HUGE defensive plays by Rudy. That's what the best defensive player in the NBA looks like!

Rudy is by far the best defender in the league


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TheMightyHumph
11-10-2018, 01:02 AM
The Nets won. It wasnít the Nuggetsí loss, it was the Netsí win.

Maybe Crabbe will start hitting his shots.

ewing
11-10-2018, 01:05 AM
Very entertaining game bt Utah and Boston.


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JAZZNC
11-10-2018, 01:05 AM
That was fun! RUDY!

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 01:27 AM
Got to watch the 4th qtr of that Utah/Bos game

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 01:51 AM
Fox with a 16/10 game on 7 shots.... this dude is going to break so many hearts.


Sidenote- Towns was fantastic... Towns/Embiid/Jok stole the show tonight for their teams.... I wonder how much lebron regrets not teaming up with the best player in the world? Him on the sixers and we are 11-2 right now easily.

GREATNESS ONE
11-10-2018, 01:54 AM
No.

CityofTreez
11-10-2018, 02:02 AM
Fox with a 16/10 game on 7 shots.... this dude is going to break so many hearts.


Sidenote- Towns was fantastic... Towns/Embiid/Jok stole the show tonight for their teams.... I wonder how much lebron regrets not teaming up with the best player in the world? Him on the sixers and we are 11-2 right now easily.

Towns had a flawless 1st half, but got bodied up in 2nd half. Kinda weak too me. Heís no Embiid mtm

Wrigheyes4MVP
11-10-2018, 02:19 AM
Fox with a 16/10 game on 7 shots.... this dude is going to break so many hearts.


Sidenote- Towns was fantastic... Towns/Embiid/Jok stole the show tonight for their teams.... I wonder how much lebron regrets not teaming up with the best player in the world? Him on the sixers and we are 11-2 right now easily.

Lonzo's better... haven't you watched them play?

Saddletramp
11-10-2018, 02:32 AM
Sixers
Magic
Pistons
Heat
Nuggets
Jazz
Kings

Stupid Heat. Stupid me for picking them.

5-2


For 11-10

Raptors
Bucks
Pelicans
Bulls
Memphis
Miami (Stupid Heat....but at least they ainít the Wizards).
GS
SAS
OKC
Sacramento

More-Than-Most
11-10-2018, 06:28 AM
for todays games

raptors
bucks
pelicans
heat
bulls
sixers
spurs
warriors
thunder
lakers

Cal827
11-10-2018, 07:31 AM
Philly
Orlando
Detroit
Miami
Denver
Utah
Sacramento


Damn Denver :laugh2:

5-2

MILLERHIGHLIFE
11-10-2018, 09:03 AM
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I still think Fultz got injured before his rookie season and 76ers trying to keep it under wraps. Some reporter speculated that he was in a bike accident.

ewing
11-10-2018, 09:40 AM
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I still think Fultz got injured before his rookie season and 76ers trying to keep it under wraps. Some reporter speculated that he was in a bike accident.

Heís not good and you canít play him and Simmon together. In the playoffs they will get smoked unless they get better, Joel goes MJ (which is how they are winning games now), or something changes.


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Rivera
11-10-2018, 10:15 AM
Last Nights Results

TG11 5-2
ewing 5-2
saddletramp 5-2
KDSpur 6-1
Cal827 5-2
L+G 4-3
bucketss 4-3
MtM 4-3



This Weeks Leaders
KDSpur 24-10
cal827 23-11
Wade03 18-9
MtM 22-12
L+G 22-12
Saddletramp 20-14
bucketss 20-17
tredigs 14-9
Ewing 15-9
Riv 15-12
Silent 13-10
buckalis 10-13
warfleg 4-5

JAZZNC
11-10-2018, 11:11 AM
Heís not good and you canít play him and Simmon together. In the playoffs they will get smoked unless they get better, Joel goes MJ (which is how they are winning games now), or something changes.


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You can tell he has no idea where the ball is going when it leaves his hand. And that form is absolutely atrocious....but yeah I would definitely rather have that than Tatum....


That Jazz game last night felt like a playoff game. I know there is no point in the playoffs but there are still great RS games. Between that game and the Sixers/Hornets duel it was a good night of basketball. Jokic went the hell off too.

In the 4th quarter last night Rudy showed why he's the best defensive player on the planet. Some incredible plays down the stretch, the block on Brown and contest on Tatum to force a point blank miss were huge for the Jazz.

kdspurman
11-10-2018, 11:39 AM
Last Nights Results

TG11 5-2
ewing 5-2
saddletramp 5-2
KDSpur 5-2
Cal827 5-2
L+G 4-3
bucketss 4-3
MtM 4-3



This Weeks Leaders
KDSpur 23-11
cal827 23-11
Wade03 18-9
MtM 22-12
L+G 22-12
Saddletramp 20-14
bucketss 20-17
tredigs 14-9
Ewing 15-9
Riv 15-12
Silent 13-10
buckalis 10-13
warfleg 4-5

I was 6-1 :)

FlashBolt
11-11-2018, 02:21 AM
You can tell he has no idea where the ball is going when it leaves his hand. And that form is absolutely atrocious....but yeah I would definitely rather have that than Tatum....


That Jazz game last night felt like a playoff game. I know there is no point in the playoffs but there are still great RS games. Between that game and the Sixers/Hornets duel it was a good night of basketball. Jokic went the hell off too.

In the 4th quarter last night Rudy showed why he's the best defensive player on the planet. Some incredible plays down the stretch, the block on Brown and contest on Tatum to force a point blank miss were huge for the Jazz.

How's Gobert's perimeter defense? He's a great rim protector but the days of being a huge big protecting the rim overshadowing perimeter defense is no longer the case. Guys like Embiid can defend the perimeter very well. Haven't seen enough Jazz games but from what I remember, Gobert's perimeter defense is lacking compared to his rim protection.