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kdspurman
10-17-2018, 11:54 AM
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Rivera
10-17-2018, 12:03 PM
im going Bucks Nets Pacers Magic Knicks Raptors rockets spurs jazz suns clipps

buckalis
10-17-2018, 12:25 PM
im going Bucks Nets Pacers Magic Knicks Raptors rockets spurs jazz suns clipps

The Nuggets will beat the Clippers and would expect Dallas vs. Suns to be a close game.

WaDe03
10-17-2018, 01:20 PM
Game 1 of the GOATs final season, itís going to be a fun one.

GREATNESS ONE
10-17-2018, 01:29 PM
Game 1 of the GOATs final season, itís going to be a fun one.

I love that he's getting his last season, was calling for it when he was with the Cavs last year to start the season. Hope he takes us back to vintage Wade a few more times before he hangs em up. Love to see what he does his final game.

TheDish87
10-17-2018, 01:36 PM
Pelicans for the upset of the night.

WaDe03
10-17-2018, 01:45 PM
I love that he's getting his last season, was calling for it when he was with the Cavs last year to start the season. Hope he takes us back to vintage Wade a few more times before he hangs em up. Love to see what he does his final game.

Love you!

Htownballa1622
10-17-2018, 05:40 PM
Game 1 of the GOATs final season, itís going to be a fun one.

LeBron plays tomorrow and I doubt it's his last season.

Htownballa1622
10-17-2018, 05:40 PM
Pelicans for the upset of the night.

no

WaDe03
10-17-2018, 05:46 PM
LeBron plays tomorrow and I doubt it's his last season.

Iím talking about the guy that taught LeBron how to win.

ewing
10-17-2018, 06:00 PM
Game 1 of the GOATs final season, itís going to be a fun one.

you mean VC against my Knicks?

ewing
10-17-2018, 06:01 PM
Iím talking about the guy that taught LeBron how to win.

LeBron only show up for like half the lessons?

GREATNESS ONE
10-17-2018, 06:05 PM
LeBron only show up for like half the lessons?

And will still win this years MVP

ewing
10-17-2018, 06:08 PM
And will still win this years MVP

Cum again?

Vee-Rex
10-17-2018, 06:22 PM
Cum again?

ugh bro don't spell it that way unless you're talking to a chick.

unless you're indicating... OHHHH I SEE WUT U DID THERE

GREATNESS ONE
10-17-2018, 06:27 PM
Cum again?

Open wide! :p

MJNetsIsles
10-17-2018, 07:36 PM
Jarrett Allen with the block of the year on Blake Griffin! Dunk denied!

http://bleacherreport.com/post/brooklyn-nets/52a7c1cb-f4dd-47ff-aff9-7119971563c2

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 07:51 PM
finally able to shut all the morons up that said how talented the cavs roster was around lebron... lets see the lebronless cavs and see if they are an 8 seed like most of you stated over the past year plus.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-17-2018, 07:52 PM
Giannis near triple double in second quarter of the game. With 8pts/10rebs/7asst. All we needed was a real coach.

buckalis
10-17-2018, 07:56 PM
Bucks with 10 3pts made not even half way the 2nd quarter yet...

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-17-2018, 07:56 PM
Hornets looks like a Gleague team.

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 08:01 PM
finally able to shut all the morons up that said how talented the cavs roster was around lebron... lets see the lebronless cavs and see if they are an 8 seed like most of you stated over the past year plus.

They actually look pretty good so far. Obviously super early, but solid start overall.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 08:02 PM
They actually look pretty good so far. Obviously super early, but solid start overall.

lol imagine the fall out if the cavs were to actually make the playoffs and lebron doesnt? it will never happen but my god.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 08:06 PM
i think everyone on the planet is waiting for the spurs/wolves lolololololol

Heediot
10-17-2018, 08:06 PM
Kevin Love seems pretty engaged. Cavs looking decent so far.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 08:08 PM
kevin love has played with more energy in this first quarter then he did the past 5 years lol

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 08:09 PM
josh rishardson looking like a must get right now for the heat... he and wade are just on fire...... for the other team

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 08:10 PM
i really really love osman.... i just want him to succeed... the dude plays so hard man

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 08:10 PM
lol imagine the fall out if the cavs were to actually make the playoffs and lebron doesnt? it will never happen but my god.

My God that'd be something. Obviously West vs East matters, but people wouldn't care lol.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-17-2018, 08:18 PM
Bucks 50% 11/22 from three point land. Half time.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 08:23 PM
that is how bad lebron was on defense last year... the cavs look like a better defensive unit without him.... Now clearly they wont ever be a better team but the one thing this cavs team can control is defense/work ethic and their defense looks really nice so far.

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 08:35 PM
i think everyone on the planet is waiting for the spurs/wolves lolololololol

Haha..should be interesting

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 09:14 PM
Dag, Pels put up 71 in the first half.

Jamiecballer
10-17-2018, 09:22 PM
I love that he's getting his last season, was calling for it when he was with the Cavs last year to start the season. Hope he takes us back to vintage Wade a few more times before he hangs em up. Love to see what he does his final game.I was really really confused for 30 seconds. Is this a joke. Lebron just signed 4 years but he is retiring now after this one? Jackasses.

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More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:27 PM
Giannis doing everything in his power to lead his team to a massive first game choke job... my dude about to drop a 10 turnover game

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:29 PM
that final shot in the bucks game was a terrible look... great game from kemba

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:30 PM
it wasnt a bad look... i just wouldnt want batum taking that last shot... he had no choice though with kemba missing the game winning layup

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:31 PM
Dag, Pels put up 71 in the first half.

when you add a melo to an already bad defensive team this tends to happen. Warriors/spurs/lakers/thunder all got better when the rockets signed carmelo.

ewing
10-17-2018, 09:32 PM
Knicks dismantling the Hawks even though Mitchell Robinson twisted and ankle after about 30 seconds of play

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:32 PM
davis is going for that MVP from game 1 lolololol... he is playing no games right now.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:34 PM
its game 1 and the heat are already regretting the wade goodbye tour

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-17-2018, 09:35 PM
that final shot in the bucks game was a terrible look... great game from kemba

Yeah Kemba made it a game in the second half. Bucks owned the first half. Then eased off the gas peddle. I had a bad feeling we would choke on that game after having huge 20 point lead most of the first half. But yeah beyond Kemba that team is meh. Yeah Monk hit that deep three near the end. Hornets ride and die with Kemba. If Kemba isn't scoring like 30+ then they don't have a chance against most teams. Besides MKG and Zeller are injury-prone. Lots of dead money tied up on that roster.

warfelg
10-17-2018, 09:40 PM
1052735022690652161

:speechless:

warfelg
10-17-2018, 09:41 PM
Mr. Knox....if I adopt you as a non-Sixer rookie you got to do better than that!

ldawg
10-17-2018, 09:42 PM
Dag, Pels put up 71 in the first half.

Pels is a sleeper. One of if not the best front court rotation in the league.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-17-2018, 09:43 PM
1052734449811709953

FlashBolt
10-17-2018, 09:45 PM
Hornets looks like a Gleague team.

And you beat them by one point...

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:45 PM
And you beat them by one point...

:laugh:

FlashBolt
10-17-2018, 09:45 PM
Hey Rockets fans, still early but how's Melo?

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:49 PM
Hey Rockets fans, still early but how's Melo?

eventually teams will learn to stop going for names and start looking at talent/fit.

Cal827
10-17-2018, 09:51 PM
Man, this Osman guy actually can play basketball :laugh2:

Also, someone tell me how Cleveland's been to the line 30 times so far to Toronto's 11 :laugh2:

I mean, I know Cleveland is aggressively attacking the net but still.

Also, also, Kawhi looks okay for starters, but he's rusty as ****

Cal827
10-17-2018, 09:52 PM
Houston, what's going on? Is it the defense struggling bad or is it hot shooting?

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:53 PM
you will never see a worse defense then having harden/melo on the floor at the same time... its gonna be amazing.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:53 PM
Houston, what's going on? Is it the defense struggling bad or is it hot shooting?

melo just tried to rebound... he got 1 inch off the floor.... when he defends he stands there on top of 2 other houston defenders and just takes up space... no movement nothing.

WaDe03
10-17-2018, 09:54 PM
MTM trolling early on. JRich is a much more complete player than Convington to be honest. The Heat donít regret giving Wade a farewell tour, heís done far more for them than youíve seen philly do in your lifetime.

Got up 14 and then started ****ing around and gave them momentum.

Bad shooting nights from Wade JRich and Whiteside. I put that loss on JRich for a terrible high usage 4th. Also bad play set up by Spo at the end with the JRich turnover. Shouldíve been McGruder inbounding to Wade not Wade to JRich.

Itís clear theyíre trying to showcase JRich though and make him the go to guy. Need to get that Jimmy trade though.

Tomorrow likely an L too at Washington.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:55 PM
MTM trolling early on. JRich is a much more complete player than Convington to be honest. The Heat donít regret giving Wade a farewell tour, heís done far more for them than youíve seen philly do in your lifetime.

Got up 14 and then started ****ing around and gave them momentum.

Bad shooting nights from Wade JRich and Whiteside. I put that loss on JRich for a terrible high usage 4th. Also bad play set up by Spo at the end with the JRich turnover. Shouldíve been McGruder inbounding to Wade not Wade to JRich.

Itís clear theyíre trying to showcase JRich though and make him the go to guy. Need to get that Jimmy trade though.

Tomorrow likely an L too at Washington.

lmfao why does what wade did before help the heat this season? Also Richardson is covington on offense with how hot and cold he is but cant touch covs defense if he had 3 other players helping him... Jrich literally was tossing up 3s like he was curry out this *****... him and wade just lost that game.

Cal827
10-17-2018, 09:57 PM
melo just tried to rebound... he got 1 inch off the floor.... when he defends he stands there on top of 2 other houston defenders and just takes up space... no movement nothing.

That's why I was asking though I know it's game 1. I thought that them losing Ariza and a few other defensive guys would hurt badly. It's a long season though, we'll see if it forms a trend or just an outlier. Harden-Carmelo= Defense Yikes.

Cal827
10-17-2018, 09:58 PM
Also, the Raptors are **** on the boards tonight :laugh2:

Cleveland's best chance at the playoff is going to be outhustling teams on the boards.

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 09:58 PM
the one player the lakers are going to regret losing is Randle... he is looking legit man.

ewing
10-17-2018, 09:59 PM
Mr. Knox....if I adopt you as a non-Sixer rookie you got to do better than that!

dude is super smooth he also isn't a great shooter yet and seems to shoot almost everytime he touches it. I very inefficient season wouldn't surprise me but i don't think it means he can't be a legit scorer at all. He is silky and has no problem finding shots

More-Than-Most
10-17-2018, 10:00 PM
dude is super smooth he also isn't a great shooter yet and seems to shoot almost everytime he touches it. I very inefficient season wouldn't surprise me but i don't think it means he can't be a legit scorer at all. He is silky and has no problem finding shots

he will shoot like 38-40 percent this year but he will be a player that drastically jumps forward after 1 year in terms of shooting... I have 0 worry about the dude being a very good shooter/scorer in this league. I think he was a steal

ldawg
10-17-2018, 10:09 PM
the one player the lakers are going to regret losing is Randle... he is looking legit man.

Getting nothing for a 23 year old that was 1 of if not your best player after tanking so many seasons before was a bone head move.

WaDe03
10-17-2018, 10:09 PM
lmfao why does what wade did before help the heat this season? Also Richardson is covington on offense with how hot and cold he is but cant touch covs defense if he had 3 other players helping him... Jrich literally was tossing up 3s like he was curry out this *****... him and wade just lost that game.

Nah heís far more compete offensively and slightly worse defensively.

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 10:17 PM
DeRozan is a much better play maker than I realized. After losing our starting and backup PG, it's great to see. I knew he'd improved last season, but he looks like a PG out there.

Vinny642
10-17-2018, 10:30 PM
The Pelicans!!!!

Randle played great, Payton with a Triple Dub. Mirotic wow...

Oh and that Anthony Davis guy, hes pretty decent as well.

JAZZNC
10-17-2018, 10:34 PM
Looks like Donovan Mitchell really worked on being a more efficient shooter this offseason...ugh. He has shot like **** in the preseason and its carrying over to this first game. He's gotta get that crap under control, he isn't gonna take anybody by surprise this year.

Chronz
10-17-2018, 10:48 PM
I really love watching Jimmy. Hope I get to do that 82 games one day

IKnowHoops
10-17-2018, 10:54 PM
Jeff Teague is balling

JAZZNC
10-17-2018, 10:54 PM
Doncic and Ayton living up to the hype early on!

IKnowHoops
10-17-2018, 10:55 PM
DeMarre giving it to Jimmy

ChI_ShIzzLe
10-17-2018, 10:57 PM
Already in love with Ayton and Doncic. Wish we wouldíve tanked harder.

IKnowHoops
10-17-2018, 10:59 PM
And oh yeah, DeMarre is better than Lowry

Vee-Rex
10-17-2018, 11:01 PM
If Mirotic plays like he has played the Cavs the last 4 years... watch out.

Pels ain't no joke

JAZZNC
10-17-2018, 11:03 PM
And oh yeah, DeMarre is better than Lowry
For somebody that supposedly knows hoops you should know how to spell DeRozan's first name haha, you over here talking about a Nets player that's out after ankle surgery!

ChI_ShIzzLe
10-17-2018, 11:05 PM
For somebody that supposedly knows hoops you should know how to spell DeRozan's first name haha, you over here talking about a Nets player that's out after ankle surgery!

I swear I thought thatís who he was talking about [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 11:22 PM
I really love watching Jimmy. Hope I get to do that 82 games one day

Even better , you'll get to watch Kawhi

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 11:23 PM
And oh yeah, DeMarre is better than Lowry

DeMar (assuming that's who you mean) makes the game look so easy. Really happy with his vision and P&R game. He's going to thrive with Pop

aman_13
10-17-2018, 11:24 PM
Even better , you'll get to watch KawhiFrom watching Raptors games of course [emoji5]

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IKnowHoops
10-17-2018, 11:27 PM
For somebody that supposedly knows hoops you should know how to spell DeRozan's first name haha, you over here talking about a Nets player that's out after ankle surgery!

No

kdspurman
10-17-2018, 11:36 PM
From watching Raptors games of course [emoji5]

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:laugh2: I go back and forth on what I think he'll do lol. Ultimately I think it's still Raps/Clips. But who the heck knows

WaDe03
10-17-2018, 11:44 PM
They need to hurry up and finalize Jimmy to Miami. Get him on that team and theyíre top 4 in the East then make moves to add another star at the deadline or this summer.

aman_13
10-17-2018, 11:50 PM
:laugh2: I go back and forth on what I think he'll do lol. Ultimately I think it's still Raps/Clips. But who the heck knowsIt will be a long guessing game for sure.

Did you get a chance to watch him tonight? If so, what did you think of his play? He looks a step slow to me right now.

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aman_13
10-17-2018, 11:53 PM
Manu "that DeRozan kid is pretty good"

I'm sure DeMar will be smiling when he reads that. Nice to see him play well tonight. Will be cheering for the Spurs in the west.

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kdspurman
10-18-2018, 12:05 AM
It will be a long guessing game for sure.

Did you get a chance to watch him tonight? If so, what did you think of his play? He looks a step slow to me right now.

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Yea I caught some of it and some pre season games. I'd agree he looks a step slow (expected) but still so effective.

Probably take him some time to get back to the level he was. But even the level he's at now is still so good

Scoots
10-18-2018, 12:41 AM
They need to hurry up and finalize Jimmy to Miami. Get him on that team and theyíre top 4 in the East then make moves to add another star at the deadline or this summer.

Just curious, when was the last time a star changed teams at the deadline?

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 12:44 AM
Boban is the Nuggets killer lol

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 12:55 AM
If Mirotic plays like he has played the Cavs the last 4 years... watch out.

Pels ain't no joke

Mirotic played ****ing great with the Pels last year and proved he is a million times better for that team than Cousins.

Vinny642
10-18-2018, 12:57 AM
Mirotic played ****ing great with the Pels last year and proved he is a million times better for that team than Cousins.

The 3 big men on our team played amazing.

Even Moore did really good.

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 01:20 AM
Pels is a sleeper. One of if not the best front court rotation in the league.

No doubt. Still got to see the guards improve, itís a guards game.

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 01:23 AM
the one player the lakers are going to regret losing is Randle... he is looking legit man.

Difficult to do considering the team and the need for a center and how they wanna play. Randle got the tough end of the straw last year with rotations but he never figured to return imo.

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 01:26 AM
For somebody that supposedly knows hoops you should know how to spell DeRozan's first name haha, you over here talking about a Nets player that's out after ankle surgery!

Dead haha I had to go to the boxscores to see who the **** he was talking about.

Saddletramp
10-18-2018, 02:04 AM
Hey Rockets fans, still early but how's Melo?

He looked pretty good for a few possessions and I was thinking heíll be all right. Then not much positive after that.

Harden was too passive and complacent and the Pelicans just came out blazing and never let up. It was nasty.

More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 02:31 AM
He looked pretty good for a few possessions and I was thinking heíll be all right. Then not much positive after that.

Harden was too passive and complacent and the Pelicans just came out blazing and never let up. It was nasty.

I am no harden fan because of defense but he tries now... Melo wont ever try... He wont try and he will iso up shots... I hope harden and cp3 can get the best out of him because i want them to beat the warriors but i dont think a zebra will change its stripes... I cant stand teams/gms that run out and think the melos/roses etc of the world are gonna be good because they once were.

More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 02:33 AM
Anthony davis i have been hard on for like a year plus now... He was a monster last year and came out and said he is the best player in basketball and guess what... he looks like he is gonna back it up... Gobert/Embiid better step up because what AD did tonight defensively was insanity... AD will always be a monster offensively but Gobert/Embiid were just better defensively unless the AD we seen tonight is the AD we see most of the year and if that is the case he will win mvp and DPOY.

Saddletramp
10-18-2018, 03:19 AM
I am no harden fan because of defense but he tries now... Melo wont ever try... He wont try and he will iso up shots... I hope harden and cp3 can get the best out of him because i want them to beat the warriors but i dont think a zebra will change its stripes... I cant stand teams/gms that run out and think the melos/roses etc of the world are gonna be good because they once were.

Relax, heís a vet min signing and is coming off the bench. If it doesnít work, it doesnít work. But as of now, he wasnít exactly the only Rocket who played dismally (although I donít think it wouldíve mattered, the Pels were just on another level tonight).

ewing
10-18-2018, 05:37 AM
Rubio with 1 point and 1 jillion intangibles for the Jazz

More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 05:51 AM
Relax, heís a vet min signing and is coming off the bench. If it doesnít work, it doesnít work. But as of now, he wasnít exactly the only Rocket who played dismally (although I donít think it wouldíve mattered, the Pels were just on another level tonight).

the thing you are missing is the VET minimum is irrelevant here... Its not about the dollars because they wont cut him ever... They will find 900 others things before realizing maybe just maybe melo is the problem because players etc think melo is the melo that entered the league and not the melo that is now horrid and never adapted/furthered his game... Within 2 months you will hear 900 excuses on why they are defensively putrid and none of it will be melo... it will be the same old same old.. melo will find his shot and melo will pick it up come playoff time and melo will eventually work with the team... he has been putrid and everyone except me and like 2 others thought he just needed a team change but was worse on OKC after leaving the knicks... He doesnt need a team change... He doesnt need to fit in the system... He is an iso inefficient player that doesnt defend at all and never furthered his game from the time he entered the league until now and when age set it and the NBA changed he became a man out of time.


adding him literally made any other contending team in the conference better.

More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 05:55 AM
Rubio with 1 point and 1 jillion intangibles for the Jazz

if only he would jack up shots like Dmitch right? He brings defense where is Dmitch shoots his team out of it and when they are down a ton gets open shots in trash time to make his statistical output not seem so bad.... Gobert just like last year is by far the best player on this team and gets less than half of the credit because he does the 1 thing nobody seems to care about and that is defend... maybe just maybe he should jack up 25 shots for 25 points and say to hell with the other side of the sport and he too will be amazing and get all the hype.

JAZZNC
10-18-2018, 08:01 AM
if only he would jack up shots like Dmitch right? He brings defense where is Dmitch shoots his team out of it and when they are down a ton gets open shots in trash time to make his statistical output not seem so bad.... Gobert just like last year is by far the best player on this team and gets less than half of the credit because he does the 1 thing nobody seems to care about and that is defend... maybe just maybe he should jack up 25 shots for 25 points and say to hell with the other side of the sport and he too will be amazing and get all the hype.

Where did this ridiculous rant come from? Simmons won ROY man, you can calm the **** down haha! Anybody with half a brain knows that Gobert is the best player on the team....not one single person in this thread has said a word about Mitchell (except for me *****ing about his crap shooting to start the game). But whatever, keep arguing with nobody.

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 08:08 AM
Where did this ridiculous rant come from? Simmons won ROY man, you can calm the **** down haha! Anybody with half a brain knows that Gobert is the best player on the team....not one single person in this thread has said a word about Mitchell (except for me *****ing about his crap shooting to start the game). But whatever, keep arguing with nobody.

Eh with MTM, let it go. Mitchell has a bad game and now he shoots his team out of games and doesnít hold a candle stick to Simmons. Should of saw that coming from a 6ers fan.

warfelg
10-18-2018, 08:25 AM
Where did this ridiculous rant come from? Simmons won ROY man, you can calm the **** down haha! Anybody with half a brain knows that Gobert is the best player on the team....not one single person in this thread has said a word about Mitchell (except for me *****ing about his crap shooting to start the game). But whatever, keep arguing with nobody.

Quinn needs to find a way to get DMitch to better spots IMO, and it's a little baffling because Quinn is a great coach.

Like looking at DMitch's shot chart, he's a good shooter from the right 45 on the 3 point line, great at the rim, and great spot up right baseline 3. I haven't seen him in a pick and roll with Gobert from that position. In face I would do some interesting mix ups with that, and put DMitch and Toby Flenderson (I saw an Ingles-Toby from the office mashup and I can't unsee it now) in a pick and roll. Both those guys can drive and shoot, and Ingles height with DMitch's explosion would be really hard to defend.

I do feel at times that Quinn is ok with DMitch just doing whatever and everyone else react to him.

ewing
10-18-2018, 08:31 AM
if only he would jack up shots like Dmitch right? He brings defense where is Dmitch shoots his team out of it and when they are down a ton gets open shots in trash time to make his statistical output not seem so bad.... Gobert just like last year is by far the best player on this team and gets less than half of the credit because he does the 1 thing nobody seems to care about and that is defend... maybe just maybe he should jack up 25 shots for 25 points and say to hell with the other side of the sport and he too will be amazing and get all the hype.

Rudy > Dmitch > Engles> Rubio = Favors

ewing
10-18-2018, 08:33 AM
Quinn needs to find a way to get DMitch to better spots IMO, and it's a little baffling because Quinn is a great coach.

Like looking at DMitch's shot chart, he's a good shooter from the right 45 on the 3 point line, great at the rim, and great spot up right baseline 3. I haven't seen him in a pick and roll with Gobert from that position. In face I would do some interesting mix ups with that, and put DMitch and Toby Flenderson (I saw an Ingles-Toby from the office mashup and I can't unsee it now) in a pick and roll. Both those guys can drive and shoot, and Ingles height with DMitch's explosion would be really hard to defend.

I do feel at times that Quinn is ok with DMitch just doing whatever and everyone else react to him.

I agree and think it is somewhat necessary b/c Utah doesn't have other guys that really create for themselves.

ewing
10-18-2018, 08:35 AM
Boban is the Nuggets killer lol

that guy is a great scorer.

ewing
10-18-2018, 08:36 AM
Mirotic played ****ing great with the Pels last year and proved he is a million times better for that team than Cousins.

agreed i was always a fan of his. Hope him and AD can stay healthy. I always liked Payton too so i am hoping he emerge on the Pels this year too. I think they can be dangerous

warfelg
10-18-2018, 08:39 AM
I agree and think it is somewhat necessary b/c Utah doesn't have other guys that really create for themselves.

Then, IMO, Mitchell has got to be used to open it up for others. Which I don't feel like I've seen from them. And for the most part his teammates play better with him on the court....except Gobert. Gobert's shooting takes a hit with Mitchell on the court. I think that's because Gobert's lack of range, and Mitchells game being dependent on getting to the rim, pushes Gobert into area's he doesn't shoot as well from. Which is why I would like to see CMitch/Gobert pick and rolls.

I think long term what's going to help Mitchell's efficiency isn't going to be a better shot, it's going to be learning some "PG Skills". Basically learn to pass a little better, learn to pass up the ok shot for a teammate to have a better shot, so someone else can have a great shot. That's what I didn't see form him last year, but would like to see him improve on. I think long term learning to pass up on certain shots to get other players more open looks will help him out more than anything.

warfelg
10-18-2018, 08:40 AM
that guy is a great scorer.

When you can touch rim and floor at the same time there's no excuse.

ewing
10-18-2018, 08:43 AM
Then, IMO, Mitchell has got to be used to open it up for others. Which I don't feel like I've seen from them. And for the most part his teammates play better with him on the court....except Gobert. Gobert's shooting takes a hit with Mitchell on the court. I think that's because Gobert's lack of range, and Mitchells game being dependent on getting to the rim, pushes Gobert into area's he doesn't shoot as well from. Which is why I would like to see CMitch/Gobert pick and rolls.

I think long term what's going to help Mitchell's efficiency isn't going to be a better shot, it's going to be learning some "PG Skills". Basically learn to pass a little better, learn to pass up the ok shot for a teammate to have a better shot, so someone else can have a great shot. That's what I didn't see form him last year, but would like to see him improve on. I think long term learning to pass up on certain shots to get other players more open looks will help him out more than anything.

i agree. I think another scoring threat that create a little would help as well but you are right from what I've seen he basically runs the show and I don't know if that's in his DNA- he's got some PG skills he needs to learn. Interesting stat about Rudy

warfelg
10-18-2018, 08:49 AM
i agree. I think another guy that create for himself a little would help as well but you are right from what I've seen he basically runs the show and I don't know if that's in his DNA- he's got some PG skills he needs to learn.

And IIRC that's what the criticism was of him coming out of college was. He was forced to play PG at Louisville, but wasn't really a PG. When he played SG he played better, but he wasn't quite a pure spot up shooter. He needs a Patrick Beverly type at PG or a George Hill. Someone that can run the show, but also take a back seat and just be a spot up shooter at times.

TheDish87
10-18-2018, 09:09 AM
no

you were saying...

WaDe03
10-18-2018, 09:20 AM
Just curious, when was the last time a star changed teams at the deadline?

Cousins.

tp13baby
10-18-2018, 09:38 AM
that guy is a great scorer.

Dunking it from 5 feet away with out jumping is a hell of a skill.

JAZZNC
10-18-2018, 09:46 AM
And IIRC that's what the criticism was of him coming out of college was. He was forced to play PG at Louisville, but wasn't really a PG. When he played SG he played better, but he wasn't quite a pure spot up shooter. He needs a Patrick Beverly type at PG or a George Hill. Someone that can run the show, but also take a back seat and just be a spot up shooter at times.

I feel like at times too he is just given the ball late in the clock and has to go iso with just a few seconds to play with and try to bail the offense out because there are no players besides maybe Burks that can really create a shot for themselves. That hurts his efficiency but he certainly needs to do better in that regard and I'd like to see him get to that 5apg level. He has the tools to do it he just has to actually do it.

ewing
10-18-2018, 10:08 AM
Dunking it from 5 feet away with out jumping is a hell of a skill.

I know i cant do it

warfelg
10-18-2018, 10:14 AM
I know i cant do it

I can.





On a 6 foot rim.

SteBO
10-18-2018, 10:16 AM
I wonder what Jimmy Butler thinks to himself as he looks at the box score of the MIN-SA game and sees KATs line....

Htownballa1622
10-18-2018, 10:21 AM
you were saying...

Don't listen to that guy. He's dumb.

On a serious note, Pels came out hot. Rox were flat. Nothing more. Nothing less. People in here taking Melo didn't watch the game. He wasn't the problem tonight.

warfelg
10-18-2018, 10:23 AM
I wonder what Jimmy Butler thinks to himself as he looks at the box score of the MIN-SA game and sees KATs line....

Proud.

Cal827
10-18-2018, 10:24 AM
DeMar (assuming that's who you mean) makes the game look so easy. Really happy with his vision and P&R game. He's going to thrive with Pop

:laugh2: Don't let Jamie fool you. Demar's not just a slightly better scrub than Jamal Crawford or a black hole exactly. Man is able to get 4-5 assists per game, and had periods where he was basically the PG (He's had a fair bit of games with 8+ assists too.

TheDish87
10-18-2018, 11:01 AM
Don't listen to that guy. He's dumb.

On a serious note, Pels came out hot. Rox were flat. Nothing more. Nothing less. People in here taking Melo didn't watch the game. He wasn't the problem tonight.

Pelicans are being underrated coming into this year and Houston has no match for AD plus they are adjusting a bunch of new pieces in. Theyll be fine but i do expect a slow-ish start.

Htownballa1622
10-18-2018, 11:22 AM
Pelicans are being underrated coming into this year and Houston has no match for AD plus they are adjusting a bunch of new pieces in. Theyll be fine but i do expect a slow-ish start.

I guess underrated is on a sliding scale because I don't think they're being underrated at all. I think they're a fine playoff team but Mirotic went off last night and I don't think it's conducive to a normal night.

IKnowHoops
10-18-2018, 11:38 AM
Rubio with 1 point and 1 jillion intangibles for the Jazz

SMH...I will never be a fan. I liked him in those olympics when he was like 16 hooping against USA team but he hasnít improved since. He may of been better then.

TheDish87
10-18-2018, 11:56 AM
I guess underrated is on a sliding scale because I don't think they're being underrated at all. I think they're a fine playoff team but Mirotic went off last night and I don't think it's conducive to a normal night.

i guess the consensus is they re like a 6-8 seed but i think they contend for top 4 this year and AD was mypick for MVP. Mirotic has been a quality addition to that team since he got there

ewing
10-18-2018, 12:12 PM
i guess the consensus is they re like a 6-8 seed but i think they contend for top 4 this year and AD was mypick for MVP. Mirotic has been a quality addition to that team since he got there

Damn we're in agreement again!

IKnowHoops
10-18-2018, 12:21 PM
Dunking it from 5 feet away with out jumping is a hell of a skill.

Canít be taught, only given

TheDish87
10-18-2018, 01:32 PM
Damn we're in agreement again!

new year, new us.

WaDe03
10-18-2018, 01:59 PM
new year, new us.

Yíall should meet up and *******!

Rivera
10-18-2018, 05:03 PM
im going Bucks Nets Pacers Magic Knicks Raptors rockets spurs jazz suns clipps

8-3 not to shabby

Jamiecballer
10-18-2018, 05:45 PM
:laugh2: Don't let Jamie fool you. Demar's not just a slightly better scrub than Jamal Crawford or a black hole exactly. Man is able to get 4-5 assists per game, and had periods where he was basically the PG (He's had a fair bit of games with 8+ assists too.Hey, Jamal Crawford is not exactly a scrub my friend

When you say "he is able to get you 4-5 assists a game" you make it sound like an achievement. When you are a guard, ball-dominant and among the league leaders in mins per game it's fairly hard not to achieve those numbers. Straight truth.
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Jamiecballer
10-18-2018, 05:49 PM
Last night's game did illustrate trouble ahead for the Spurs IMO.

You've got 3 guys taking 56 shots (60% of the teams fga), of which a whopping 5 were 3 pointers.

You cant win in this league anymore like that, dont let a home win over the most dysfunctional organization in sports right now fool you. It's going to be a damn long year.

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More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 07:52 PM
um i dont hate dmitch nor does my take have anything to do with ben simmons... I hate players like a Dmitch because they get all the praise because of ppg... see my forever take on my teams own player in iverson over the years... I hated the dmitch talk over ben last year because they were close in terms of their play but what really pissed me off was how Dmitch literally got all the credit when their best player by far last year was Gobert and their emergence coincided the instant he came back which again was completely disregarded..... Dmitch is going to be a damn good player but ppg is so beyond annoying its not even funny.

More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 07:54 PM
Not 1 person in the national media on any of the shows said 1 thing about gobert today.... Not 1. They showed the Utah Highlights and the caption was Dmitch and Jazz off to hot start out of the gate..... Not 1 mention of the guy that had 19/15 with 3 blocks on 80 percent shooting.

kdspurman
10-18-2018, 08:02 PM
Last night's game did illustrate trouble ahead for the Spurs IMO.

You've got 3 guys taking 56 shots (60% of the teams fga), of which a whopping 5 were 3 pointers.

You cant win in this league anymore like that, dont let a home win over the most dysfunctional organization in sports right now fool you. It's going to be a damn long year.

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They shot 44% from 3 on 25 shots. For comparisons sake, your Raptors shot 42% on 33 attempts from 3.

The 2nd unit are the guys who will let it fly from 3. They can play a variety of styles, I see that as a good thing. To say it's gonna be a long year after game 1/82 seems premature to me

warfelg
10-18-2018, 08:10 PM
They shot 44% from 3 on 25 shots. For comparisons sake, your Raptors shot 42% on 33 attempts from 3.

The 2nd unit are the guys who will let it fly from 3. They can play a variety of styles, I see that as a good thing. To say it's gonna be a long year after game 1/82 seems premature to me

Didn't you know that a career is written after 15 games and a season is done in 1 game.

kdspurman
10-18-2018, 08:28 PM
Didn't you know that a career is written after 15 games and a season is done in 1 game.

Seriously lol. Idk how you can make any realistic predictions after 1 month of basketball, let alone 1 game.

Jamiecballer
10-18-2018, 08:29 PM
Well to be fair I have been making that prediction since mid July. I just dont see a gay/derozan/Aldridge 2 point fiesta as something that can succeed based almost entirely on the math alone.

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Jamiecballer
10-18-2018, 08:31 PM
Didn't you know that a career is written after 15 games and a season is done in 1 game.
Seriously lol. Idk how you can make any realistic predictions after 1 month of basketball, let alone 1 game.You guys dont get it. This was a suggested issue long before the season started. There is a reason many projections had the spurs winning high 30 to very low 40's.

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Jamiecballer
10-18-2018, 08:32 PM
Seriously lol. Idk how you can make any realistic predictions after 1 month of basketball, let alone 1 game.So you've never engaged in any sort of prediction before the season based on the roster and tendencies, etc. I find that hard to believe.

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FlashBolt
10-18-2018, 09:39 PM
Anthony davis i have been hard on for like a year plus now... He was a monster last year and came out and said he is the best player in basketball and guess what... he looks like he is gonna back it up... Gobert/Embiid better step up because what AD did tonight defensively was insanity... AD will always be a monster offensively but Gobert/Embiid were just better defensively unless the AD we seen tonight is the AD we see most of the year and if that is the case he will win mvp and DPOY.

I will never forget you saying Embiid is better than AD...

More-Than-Most
10-18-2018, 10:12 PM
Seriously lol. Idk how you can make any realistic predictions after 1 month of basketball, let alone 1 game.


I will never forget you saying Embiid is better than AD...

AD looked like he just stopped trying at one point defensively... and he clearly did... Because what we have seen the past year is incredible.

Scoots
10-18-2018, 10:41 PM
You guys dont get it. This was a suggested issue long before the season started. There is a reason many projections had the spurs winning high 30 to very low 40's.

Losing a starter for the year is a big part of that. The Spurs, had they stayed healthy, would have been a likely lock for the playoffs. Even after losing 2 players they are still probably going to make the playoffs.

kdspurman
10-18-2018, 11:06 PM
You guys dont get it. This was a suggested issue long before the season started. There is a reason many projections had the spurs winning high 30 to very low 40's.

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I guess I trust Pop's ability to get more out of his team/players than what some people predict? How many years have people said the Spurs would fall off a cliff? Last year they had their worst year in like 20 years and it was better than most.

I trust his ability to stagger minutes, and surround guys with shooters. Not to mention Gay/DD/LMA will all take more 3s, as it's something each has worked on.

The thing that hurt this team is Murray going out. Their D will struggle, but these guys will be able to score. 2's, 3's , FTs, whatever.

kdspurman
10-18-2018, 11:07 PM
So you've never engaged in any sort of prediction before the season based on the roster and tendencies, etc. I find that hard to believe.

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I do, but I know tendencies change. Especially when you have the right coach in place. I never judge a player for how they played before playing for Pop. Seen too many guys come in and be successful despite having a reputation, and seen guys fall off once they leave.

WaDe03
10-19-2018, 09:29 AM
Jamie going to act like heís a genius if the Spurs do bad and not acknowledge their PG and best defender being out for however long and the other injury issues theyíre having.

IKnowHoops
10-19-2018, 09:37 AM
I will never forget you saying Embiid is better than AD...

AD is a 6í11 David Robinson...of course heís better than Embiid

JAZZNC
10-19-2018, 11:18 AM
Not 1 person in the national media on any of the shows said 1 thing about gobert today.... Not 1. They showed the Utah Highlights and the caption was Dmitch and Jazz off to hot start out of the gate..... Not 1 mention of the guy that had 19/15 with 3 blocks on 80 percent shooting.
That is annoying. But rebounding and defense don't make the highlight reel man. It is what it is. But that's why I also said anybody with half a brain knows that Gobert is the best player on the team. He's incredible. He is the engine that makes the car go. It's funny because I heard that Jokic homer say that you can't build a team around Gobert and I pointed out the Jazz have done just that and that his team is better than Denver so what does that day about Jokic? Goberts biggest strength is playing to his strengths and not to his weaknesses.

warfelg
10-19-2018, 11:36 AM
That is annoying. But rebounding and defense don't make the highlight reel man. It is what it is. But that's why I also said anybody with half a brain knows that Gobert is the best player on the team. He's incredible. He is the engine that makes the car go. It's funny because I heard that Jokic homer say that you can't build a team around Gobert and I pointed out the Jazz have done just that and that his team is better than Denver so what does that day about Jokic? Goberts biggest strength is playing to his strengths and not to his weaknesses.

I miss the days when Motumbo would have that 8-17-1-5 blocks stat line and he would be the highlight, not AIs 30-5-5 night On 11-29 shooting.

TheDish87
10-19-2018, 12:20 PM
Mutumbos stat line was never the highlight over Iverson

Jamiecballer
10-19-2018, 01:16 PM
Losing a starter for the year is a big part of that. The Spurs, had they stayed healthy, would have been a likely lock for the playoffs. Even after losing 2 players they are still probably going to make the playoffs.You think they still make it?

And who is this starter you are referring to that was lost well before the season kicked off when projections were made?

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WaDe03
10-19-2018, 01:20 PM
You think they still make it?

And who is this starter you are referring to that was lost well before the season kicked off when projections were made?

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Those projections are ***. How do you protect the Spurs to get worse adding Demar who was the Raptors best player by a wide margin and Poetl while only losing Danny Green Manu and TP who didnít do anything anyways.

Rivera
10-19-2018, 01:22 PM
Mutumbos stat line was never the highlight over Iverson

Mutombo also played with The Nuggets and Hawks during his prime where you can argue, he was the best player on both teams and the majority of his highlights were blocks and rebounds

TheDish87
10-19-2018, 01:38 PM
not sure the point you are trying to make? fully agree, Mutumbo block highlights were awesome. But no one ever cared about his stat line

Rivera
10-19-2018, 01:44 PM
not sure the point you are trying to make? fully agree, Mutumbo block highlights were awesome. But no one ever cared about his stat line

the point i made was he didnt only play for the 76ers, you only mentioned the 76ers and specifically iverson

i disagree with that take strongly that no one cared about his stat line. His stat line is part of the reason people consider Mutombo one of the best defensive centers in the league. His stat line is part of the reason he was a 4 time DPOY . His stat line is part of the reason he is a HOFer

Jamiecballer
10-19-2018, 01:48 PM
Jamie going to act like heís a genius if the Spurs do bad and not acknowledge their PG and best defender being out for however long and the other injury issues theyíre having.

no, not at all. Murray is a good young player, and it hurts to see someone of his caliber go down for the season. but you aren't going to try and tell me that a team with Lamarcus Aldridge and a 2nd team all-NBA shooting guard, being coached by an incredible coach shouldn't still be a good team right? At least as far as the general population considers their talent, right? if Demar was as good as you think he is this team should have been an easy low 50's in the win total. before losing Murray. so it's not me trying to act like a genius, if they win mid to high 40's then I will say they definitely exceeded my expectations and tip my cap to them.

Jamiecballer
10-19-2018, 02:06 PM
I do, but I know tendencies change. Especially when you have the right coach in place. I never judge a player for how they played before playing for Pop. Seen too many guys come in and be successful despite having a reputation, and seen guys fall off once they leave.

fair enough. i respect Popovich more than anyone. if this years Spurs are anywhere near contender i feel pretty good about calling this his best coaching job yet. your guys have bucked the trend for a while now with the league getting so 3 point heavy but i don't think any amount of coaching can defeat the immutable laws of math. my prediction is that you are going to see a lot of 2nd quarters start this season with a deficit. why? because we've all watched the game for a long time, what do the stars do? they try and get going early, and establish themselves early. that's going to be a ton of 2 point baskets for your team, IMO.

outside of that, i have a prediction of a different type. i predict that the Spurs are where Jimmy Butler lands. i am starting to think what will happen is that the Spurs will ship DeRozan to the Wolves in exchange for Butler. here me out. People look at the acquisition of DeRozan for Kawhi as the best they could get under the circumstances. they took a shiny 50 cent piece for their dollar because nobody else would offer as much. the spurs would not say this of course, but the rest of the basketball world didn't see it coming partly because DeRozan is just not the kind of player you would expect the Spurs to look much at. But now they are in position to do the exact same thing to the Wolves. Nobody else is going to offer up an all-star, he allows the Wolves to save some face, and the Spurs get a player much more in their image.

Jamiecballer
10-19-2018, 02:13 PM
Those projections are ***. How do you protect the Spurs to get worse adding Demar who was the Raptors best player by a wide margin and Poetl while only losing Danny Green Manu and TP who didnít do anything anyways.

you don't get it dude. of course you don't understand - because you are still demonstrating an insane amount of ignorance about the Raptors and why they won a bunch of games. i'm willing to bet in your mind you still believe that in 2018 it's possible to win games without taking 3's as long as you shoot a decent percentage from the field and throw in some slick pumps, eurosteps and fadeaways. it's not. you can't build a great team around 5 dwyane wades.

kdspurman
10-19-2018, 02:39 PM
fair enough. i respect Popovich more than anyone. if this years Spurs are anywhere near contender i feel pretty good about calling this his best coaching job yet. your guys have bucked the trend for a while now with the league getting so 3 point heavy but i don't think any amount of coaching can defeat the immutable laws of math. my prediction is that you are going to see a lot of 2nd quarters start this season with a deficit. why? because we've all watched the game for a long time, what do the stars do? they try and get going early, and establish themselves early. that's going to be a ton of 2 point baskets for your team, IMO.

I mean they put up 112 in their first game, if they're scoring a ton of 2 point baskets (and I still think you will be surprised when you see Gay/Aldridge taking/making more 3's), then there's a good chance they'll still be in the game. DD is also great at getting to the FT line, so they can play at a different pace and slow the game down if need be (A great asset to have). though I know Pop is aware of the 3 point shot, it's why he finished the game with Bertans over Gay, (Gay also had 18/7 on 12 shots) and kept guys like Mills/Forbes in. DD is showing in the few pre-season/reg season game he is out there to facilitate. He should've had 10+ assist honestly, but he's really showing to be a play-maker first.

I know some Raps fans have a certain perspective on him, but like I said, with Pop he makes your role/job really clear and puts guys in position to succeed. Let's revisit this talk after like 20 games or so to better assess where he's at.


outside of that, i have a prediction of a different type. i predict that the Spurs are where Jimmy Butler lands. i am starting to think what will happen is that the Spurs will ship DeRozan to the Wolves in exchange for Butler. here me out. People look at the acquisition of DeRozan for Kawhi as the best they could get under the circumstances. they took a shiny 50 cent piece for their dollar because nobody else would offer as much. the spurs would not say this of course, but the rest of the basketball world didn't see it coming partly because DeRozan is just not the kind of player you would expect the Spurs to look much at. But now they are in position to do the exact same thing to the Wolves. Nobody else is going to offer up an all-star, he allows the Wolves to save some face, and the Spurs get a player much more in their image.

This, I just don't see haha. They got rid of 1 guy who turned out to be a big distraction. DeRozan , regardless of what you think of him as a player, is a much better locker room presence for the Spurs and their culture. They got DeRozan because they didn't want to get a bunch of young unproven guys. He's an All NBA guy, and he addressed their biggest need from a season ago, a perimeter guy who could play with LMA effectively and score the ball.

WaDe03
10-19-2018, 03:23 PM
you don't get it dude. of course you don't understand - because you are still demonstrating an insane amount of ignorance about the Raptors and why they won a bunch of games. i'm willing to bet in your mind you still believe that in 2018 it's possible to win games without taking 3's as long as you shoot a decent percentage from the field and throw in some slick pumps, eurosteps and fadeaways. it's not. you can't build a great team around 5 dwyane wades.

5 prime Dwyane Wades would win the championship every year.

Jamiecballer
10-19-2018, 09:06 PM
5 prime Dwyane Wades would win the championship every year.Oh for sure

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