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kdspurman
10-10-2018, 11:50 AM
Gotta be awkward lol

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Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 12:08 PM
Gotta be awkward lol

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"Just grabbing my tennies, how ya'all doin?"

specialiststeve
10-10-2018, 12:13 PM
^^^^^Jimmy is going to play for the Wolves. Unless Tib's gets what he wants and that appears to be a bunch. Unlike most here I think Butler has no leverage and Tib's and the Wolves have it all. Don't get what he wants for a trade and Jimmy stays and plays. Has to play up to his abilities or his value is zip at the end of the year. Less money. Also if he stays and plays well he will get his "raise" from the Wolves.

Although the drama has been pretty over the top and WAY overstated as nothing has ever been confirmed other than Butler is frustrated with the lack of effort on the defensive side... as most of the NBA deals with.

Still expect something to happen but Tib's doesn't give a **** about the social media and perception. He is about winning games. Getting a crappy package and rebuilding is not in his itinerary. So unless someone steps up with a package that is going to still allow him to compete and win THIS year ... he passes.... as he should.

AllBall
10-10-2018, 12:34 PM
Gotta be awkward lol

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lol, Thibs is like that Ex that believes they're still in a relationship after they've had the breakup conversation multiple times.

Vinylman
10-10-2018, 12:48 PM
^^^^^Jimmy is going to play for the Wolves. Unless Tib's gets what he wants and that appears to be a bunch. Unlike most here I think Butler has no leverage and Tib's and the Wolves have it all. Don't get what he wants for a trade and Jimmy stays and plays. Has to play up to his abilities or his value is zip at the end of the year. Less money. Also if he stays and plays well he will get his "raise" from the Wolves.

Although the drama has been pretty over the top and WAY overstated as nothing has ever been confirmed other than Butler is frustrated with the lack of effort on the defensive side... as most of the NBA deals with.

Still expect something to happen but Tib's doesn't give a **** about the social media and perception. He is about winning games. Getting a crappy package and rebuilding is not in his itinerary. So unless someone steps up with a package that is going to still allow him to compete and win THIS year ... he passes.... as he should.

Delusion sets in... you sound like one of those Japanese guys in the jungles who never thought WW2 ended

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 12:49 PM
"Just grabbing my tennies, how ya'all doin?"

:laugh2:

Craziness man. Butler, Wiggins, KAT, Thibs... To be a fly on the wall in that locker room

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 01:47 PM
^^^^^Jimmy is going to play for the Wolves. Unless Tib's gets what he wants and that appears to be a bunch. Unlike most here I think Butler has no leverage and Tib's and the Wolves have it all. Don't get what he wants for a trade and Jimmy stays and plays. Has to play up to his abilities or his value is zip at the end of the year. Less money. Also if he stays and plays well he will get his "raise" from the Wolves.

Although the drama has been pretty over the top and WAY overstated as nothing has ever been confirmed other than Butler is frustrated with the lack of effort on the defensive side... as most of the NBA deals with.

Still expect something to happen but Tib's doesn't give a **** about the social media and perception. He is about winning games. Getting a crappy package and rebuilding is not in his itinerary. So unless someone steps up with a package that is going to still allow him to compete and win THIS year ... he passes.... as he should.

Right but at what cost do you roll with this year? I get that we have our 2 young players under contract for years now, so damage can be repaired. And frankly, go ahead and roll with Butler on the team if you get no value. But don't act like it won't be a totally annoying **** show the entire year.

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 02:01 PM
btw, I wouldn't just give up Butler for nothing. Worst case, he, and everyone on the roster/front office know he is gone after this year. Make him report, and play as normal. Yes it will be hilarious to watch the dysfunction, but the team might be good. I would rather let him walk after a year than take a crappy deal that does nothing long term. It's why Tucker/Gordon, we should have no interest in, currently. If the deadline comes around, and it's just a dramatic event each and every game, maybe.

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 02:07 PM
also, Jimmy is going to now be looked at across the league, as a potential issue in the locker room. He is 2/2, and no matter what you want to pin it on (bad teams, etc), he is 2/2. That alone might give plenty of GM's some reservations on offering much.

valade16
10-10-2018, 02:07 PM
btw, I wouldn't just give up Butler for nothing. Worst case, he, and everyone on the roster/front office know he is gone after this year. Make him report, and play as normal. Yes it will be hilarious to watch the dysfunction, but the team might be good. I would rather let him walk after a year than take a crappy deal that does nothing long term. It's why Tucker/Gordon, we should have no interest in, currently. If the deadline comes around, and it's just a dramatic event each and every game, maybe.

Well according to PSD's main page Minnesota called Houston and wanted Gordon and Tucker and Houston actually said no because they don't want to give up Tucker. Unbelievable.

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 02:10 PM
Well according to PSD's main page Minnesota called Houston and wanted Gordon and Tucker and Houston actually said no because they don't want to give up Tucker. Unbelievable.

which is crazy, because outside Gordon's shooting, Butler would replace them both haha

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 02:17 PM
lol, Thibs is like that Ex that believes they're still in a relationship after they've had the breakup conversation multiple times.

His timberbulls dream has faded before his eyes, he's in denial.

AllBall
10-10-2018, 02:38 PM
Well according to PSD's main page Minnesota called Houston and wanted Gordon and Tucker and Houston actually said no because they don't want to give up Tucker. Unbelievable.

That's the sound of Butler stock plummeting.

valade16
10-10-2018, 02:40 PM
which is crazy, because outside Gordon's shooting, Butler would replace them both haha

Yeah I don't get it.

CP3 - Harden - Butler - Melo - Capela would be on a level with GS. Certainly able to compete.

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 03:05 PM
Woj channeling his inner Walt Clyde Frazier

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kdspurman
10-10-2018, 03:14 PM
Wow :speechless:

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Stunner
10-10-2018, 03:15 PM
Lmaoo jimmy

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 03:20 PM
I don't even know what is going on anymore.

AllBall
10-10-2018, 03:21 PM
I don't even know what is going on anymore.

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Stunner
10-10-2018, 03:28 PM
LMFAOO


https://twitter.com/jayy_green/status/1050103901779881984?s=21

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 03:30 PM
LMFAOO


https://twitter.com/jayy_green/status/1050103901779881984?s=21

I saw that and didn't know if that was true or not. Kinda makes sense I guess in terms of what he was saying

Stunner
10-10-2018, 03:31 PM
I saw that and didn't know if that was true or not. Kinda makes sense I guess in terms of what he was saying

[emoji24][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Jimmy basically calling the entire roster poo; this is just sad cuz they not defending themselves . Theyíre grown

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 03:33 PM
Watch Butler be super pissed he isn't traded and they go for 62 wins. It's absolutely miserable for everybody in that locker room, and they get to game 7 of the WCF.

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 03:38 PM
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Stunner
10-10-2018, 03:39 PM
Jimmy Butler besting top 10 picks with James Nunnally and Johnson-Odom on his team

Stunner
10-10-2018, 03:40 PM
https://twitter.com/marvb_/status/1050105510727471109?s=21

AllBall
10-10-2018, 03:44 PM
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If this is a preview of whats to come, a part of me now wants him to stay in Minnesota for sheer lulz this will bring...for the greater good of the NBA entertianment world. lmao 😂😂😂😂

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 03:53 PM
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Stunner
10-10-2018, 03:57 PM
LETS GO


https://twitter.com/dwolfsonkstp/status/1050112223228690432?s=21

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-10-2018, 04:00 PM
So Wolves give Rockets a jingle so hopefully Heat up their ante? Seems Wolves didn't only want Richardson and a protected pick but more. But now talking about Rockets Gordon and Tucker? Shocked Raptors or 76ers didn't give another jingle. But I guess 76ers were asked to part with Simmons right off the bat. So they probably wont bother now. Raptors could offer up something like OG and both Ibaka and Val and get Butler and Dieng. I didn't check salaries but must be kinda close. As for 76ers i'd offer up Fultz,Roco and Bayless for Butler.

AllBall
10-10-2018, 04:02 PM
LETS GO


https://twitter.com/dwolfsonkstp/status/1050112223228690432?s=21

The Decision 2: South Beach Boogaloo 😂😂😂😂

Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:03 PM
https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/1050109269079658496?s=21

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-10-2018, 04:03 PM
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Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:03 PM
Bruh Jimmy gotta be Kobe and Jordan nephew in terms of demand others to match his intensity

Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:06 PM
https://twitter.com/talkhoops/status/1050113974488813569?s=21

Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:08 PM
https://twitter.com/dreeastwood/status/1050104079366742018?s=21

ewing
10-10-2018, 04:11 PM
I don't even know what is going on anymore.

Sounds like Jimmy Butler has a mood disorder. I attract the female version of this like flies.

ewing
10-10-2018, 04:12 PM
LMFAOO


https://twitter.com/jayy_green/status/1050103901779881984?s=21

Now he sounds like me after I mouthed off to coach again. Maybe he's my baby

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 04:14 PM
Sounds like Jimmy Butler has a mood disorder. I attract the female version of this like flies.

sounds like you like your women like you like your athletes. Full of drama and overrated performers

SteBO
10-10-2018, 04:21 PM
I'm so over the goddamn Jimmy Butler stuff already....it's **** like this why so many people would rather not see athletes have this much power in sports. Assuming the Woj tweet is true, Jimmy is acting like a first class jack***, even if he is right to a degree.

GREATNESS ONE
10-10-2018, 04:31 PM
:laugh2:

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 04:37 PM
I saw he also guarded KAT and shut him down and called him soft a **** and told Wiggins the same and that guys wouldnít even think of talking back to him lol! I guess their beef was real.

Some people really think Towns is better than Butler which is crazy to me. He takes 3rd stringers and beats the starters while locking up on of the top centers in the league.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 04:37 PM
I mean does this not kill the trade value even more?

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 04:38 PM
Definitely watching ESPN tonight for his interview.

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 04:38 PM
I mean does this not kill the trade value even more?

of course it does. If teams weren't apprehensive of his past issues inside the locker room, they are now.

redsox12
10-10-2018, 04:39 PM
At this point, Minnesota should contact the Heat and make a deal. It's a matter of principle and honor now. They should rather lose without him than win with him.

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 04:39 PM
I saw he also guarded KAT and shut him down and called him soft a **** and told Wiggins the same and that guys wouldnít even think of talking back to him lol! I guess their beef was real.

Some people really think Towns is better than Butler which is crazy to me. He takes 3rd stringers and beats the starters while locking up on of the top centers in the league.

who on earth would say that?

Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:39 PM
https://twitter.com/mgrads/status/1050113118355959809?s=21


https://twitter.com/mgrads/status/1050114852755140608?s=21


https://twitter.com/mgrads/status/1050115971166363648?s=21


https://twitter.com/mgrads/status/1050116584641986560?s=21



https://twitter.com/mgrads/status/1050117910235045888?s=21



https://twitter.com/mgrads/status/1050118818624811008?s=21

cmellofan15
10-10-2018, 04:42 PM
I thought Jimmy was guaranteed to be in a Heat jersey by now? :laugh2:

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 04:43 PM
who on earth would say that?

Over the course of the season many different analyst would say it and I just saw a list like SLAM I think that had Towns higher and 2K and Live have him higher I believe.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 04:43 PM
I thought Jimmy was guaranteed to be in a Heat jersey by now? :laugh2:

Who guaranteed that? I wish they would get it over with though.

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 04:44 PM
Over the course of the season many different analyst would say it and I just saw a list like SLAM I think that had Towns higher and 2K and Live have him higher I believe.

anyone with a brain knows Butler is better though.

kdspurman
10-10-2018, 04:51 PM
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Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:52 PM
He motivating them lmao

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 04:57 PM
anyone with a brain knows Butler is better though.

Yea for sure itís a no brainer which is why I get annoyed every time I hear or see otherwise. Just one of those things you see and youíre just confused how someone could think that.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 04:57 PM
Wolves need to trade Wiggins

northsider
10-10-2018, 05:00 PM
Won't lie I am pretty happy he is not a Bull anymore.

Before I am jumped on understand this larger then life mentality started to form towards end with Bulls when Thibs was gone. I was excited at first thinking Jimmy will now be the 1A star on this team and tbh he is a great player and did some good things, but we were not winning with him as that man like a team could with a player like Lebron.

Jimmy is good, but hard pass on this new blown to bit ego Jimmy Butler. I wish the next team well as seems like anything not going his way and he turns and I honestly don't think players look at him in that light either.

With that said this is about the most entertaining rumor I have seen in a while if he really showed up to pretty much **** **** up and I'd love to see some video of it all.

ewing
10-10-2018, 05:19 PM
At this point, Minnesota should contact the Heat and make a deal. It's a matter of principle and honor now. They should rather lose without him than win with him.

Youíre a weird guy


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specialiststeve
10-10-2018, 05:27 PM
According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.com, Jimmy Butler was "vociferous and emotional at times" in practice on Wednesday and was targeting coach Tom Thibodeau, GM Scott Layden, Karl-Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins.

Oh boy. Woj adds Jimmy looked at Layden and screamed, "You [bleeping] need me. You can't win without me." Woj said coaches and teammates were largely speechless, and Jimmy dominated the gym in every way.

I would have paid to go to that practice!

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 05:31 PM
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WaDe03
10-10-2018, 05:34 PM
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buckalis
10-10-2018, 05:37 PM
Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, it will surely work:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 05:40 PM
This all stems from work ethic and lack of work ethic lol.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 05:41 PM
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Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 05:43 PM
anybody still want butler after the latest news? what a ****ing basketcase

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 05:45 PM
anybody still want butler after the latest news? what a ****ing basketcase

Want him even more.

AllBall
10-10-2018, 05:46 PM
He motivating them lmao

Maybe he motivated the 3rd string, but the starters should be embarrassed. 😆

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 05:46 PM
So Rachel Nichols just happened to be in town today lol?

ewing
10-10-2018, 05:48 PM
Want him even more.

Bingo

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 05:55 PM
Want him even more.Shouldn't be much competition now

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Stunner
10-10-2018, 05:57 PM
So Rachel Nichols just happened to be in town today lol?

She been visiting teams all pre season , she been to Ohio , SF , Seattle and Houston within a week

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 06:00 PM
I mean does this not kill the trade value even more?Masai would likely not consider

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kdspurman
10-10-2018, 06:02 PM
I can appreciate the passion like Jimmy talked about, but then again some of the teams he supposedly wants to play with aren't exactly teams that are supposed to be successful soon.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:07 PM
I can appreciate the passion like Jimmy talked about, but then again some of the teams he supposedly wants to play with aren't exactly teams that are supposed to be successful soon.

I think he want a team that can be more competitive next off season , reason why he want Clippers cuz they can have space for two max guys. Heat makes some sense cuz Pat in the mafia and will do anything to get a star there. Both teams crazy enough prob better than him with the wolves. Nets the same way , have money to get two stars and itís in a wide open east outside of Boston and maybe raps if Leonard stays.



Not many competitive teams can do deals for butler without you know getting rid of their own. Only team that can is Philly but Thibs dumb self asked for Ben or Embiid .

Dade County
10-10-2018, 06:12 PM
It's looking more and more likely that Jimmy's trade will challenge the Vince deal as the most lopsided trade in NBA history. Supposedly the Heat's offer was just JRich and a 1st.

I don't see why Miami should give up a first. JRich & Waiters or some combination like that, should be enough for a one-year rental. lol

Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:14 PM
Nobody wants Waiters and if he wants Miami itís not a rental

Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:20 PM
Wolves need to cash out on Wiggins and KAT and keep Jimmy https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181010/6f026e0891ed3759f1bdcd22601295cc.jpg

Dade County
10-10-2018, 06:21 PM
I'm so over the goddamn Jimmy Butler stuff already....it's **** like this why so many people would rather not see athletes have this much power in sports. Assuming the Woj tweet is true, Jimmy is acting like a first class jack***, even if he is right to a degree.

He never willingly signed with the wolves they traded for him. So I'm not going to look at it as he owes them anything, he politely told them that he doesn't want to be there numerous times

Now he should act more like a professional and not let his anger get the best of him, or he's acting and lashing out so they have to trade him.

But sometimes a person has to do what a person has to do; if this is the only way that they will trade him, he should start throwing chairs randomly at practice and throwing cups of water in people faces.

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 06:21 PM
who on earth would say that?I heard there was a hidden teammate rating

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Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:22 PM
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1050148325528358913?s=21

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 06:26 PM
Youíre a weird guy


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI get where he is coming from. You can't let someone **** your wife right in front of you and then invite them back for poker night.

This is going to accomplish exactly what Jimmy wanted unfortunately

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Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:30 PM
GO OFF JIMMY

https://twitter.com/bullscripted/status/1050151191148195845?s=21

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 06:31 PM
I'm all in now on Miami getting Butler. Wish it was Boston though lol

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Dade County
10-10-2018, 06:33 PM
Nobody wants Waiters and if he wants Miami itís not a rental

In a way I can agree with you but until the player signs it has to be looked at by all parties involved, as a one-year rental you never know with these new age players.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:34 PM
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buckalis
10-10-2018, 06:35 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 06:42 PM
Shouldn't be much competition now

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Good.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 06:45 PM
I can appreciate the passion like Jimmy talked about, but then again some of the teams he supposedly wants to play with aren't exactly teams that are supposed to be successful soon.

Have to think bigger picture though. I donít think any team in the running believe Jimmy puts them as the favorites. Heís the first of other moves and a great starting point. Itís why teams like Miami are trying their best to keep their top assets. They can be flipped for more help, maybe the next disgruntled star or used to dump salary to free up space for another FA name.

The league is going to change a lot next summer, I see KD leaving and the league opening up with the Celtics as the favorites at the start of next season.

buckalis
10-10-2018, 06:45 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 06:47 PM
Towns got the ball in the post today against Jimmy and Jimmy said something along the lines of ďthis guy canít do **** against me.Ē And then towns kicked it out and didnít try to score on Jimmy.

The Woj report says guys were energized after, Towns wasnít one of them as he was apparently distraught and huniliated. Maybe it showed towns just how far away he was from actually being elite.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 06:48 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

We get it.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:48 PM
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WaDe03
10-10-2018, 06:55 PM
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Minny has to stop trying to build leverage and just take the best offer. Itís going to continue to get worse and worse for them.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 06:55 PM
Lowkey this Butler way of getting the guys do to better cuz he doesnít want out , heís trying to see how they respond. Cuz everything he saying sounds like he legit cares about them

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:00 PM
I can appreciate the passion like Jimmy talked about, but then again some of the teams he supposedly wants to play with aren't exactly teams that are supposed to be successful soon.

There is a distinct line between what Jimmy Butler said and what "sources" (i.e. Butler's agent) say.

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 07:00 PM
Lowkey this Butler way of getting the guys do to better cuz he doesnít want out , heís trying to see how they respond. Cuz everything he saying sounds like he legit cares about themReally? That's what this says to you? What language was it in? Because in English it basically translates into "****. YOU. *****. ***. SAD. MOTHER ****ERS. KISS MY EBONY BEHIND.

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specialiststeve
10-10-2018, 07:05 PM
I understand everyone believes Tib's is a moron and should go... but... put yourself in his shoes for a moment...

You come to a losing culture. (fact) Have a bunch of young guys that have talent but have zero clue on how to play the game at a winning level. (fact) Trade a talented but damaged guard and an under performing guard who may or may not stick and a 1st round pick for a top 15 player. (fact) Believe that Butler will help turn around a team and get the young guys to playoffs (happened). Believe that the team will take a jump this year with healthy and more mature guys. (likely) Butler wants to bail throwing everything into turmoil. (fact)

So you as Tib's politely say "sure" nice to have you help last year and we will take a bunch of question marks for you in return and go back to missing the playoffs...... but let's make sure Butler gets his way so not to make any waves. I would be closer to doing what Tib's did than some of the spineless GM's that ruin teams by letting great players go for questionable pieces because they don't want to rock the boat.

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:07 PM
Everything indicates that Butler thinks Towns and Wiggins are soft and that the coaches coddle them. I seriously doubt that this is some sort of Machiavellian maneuvering to motivate the team.

Butler needs to go to a team that is going to build around his personality, and bring in like minded players. Minnesota just committed to two laid back max players. He wants out.

What's a hand dab?

Stunner
10-10-2018, 07:09 PM
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1050160443703119872?s=21

Saddletramp
10-10-2018, 07:15 PM
LMFAOO


https://twitter.com/jayy_green/status/1050103901779881984?s=21

Oh my god thatís ****ing funny.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 07:15 PM
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1050151083849396224?s=21

FlashBolt
10-10-2018, 07:18 PM
Hawkeye will say Jimmy is toxic but man, when literally everyone thinks Towns and Wiggins don't care about winning enough, what makes you think Jimmy doesn't see it? He's probably in the locker room focused on the next game and then he hears Towns and Wiggins talking about playing Fortnite. It doesn't even take much for someone to see that from Wiggins. Dude collected that check and gave up on improving.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 07:18 PM
Lowkey this Butler way of getting the guys do to better cuz he doesnít want out , heís trying to see how they respond. Cuz everything he saying sounds like he legit cares about them

Nah thatís definitely not it or he wouldnít have met with them 3 times to tell them he wants to be traded and then say itís not fixable in his interview today.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/_marcusd3_/status/1050162305424601088?s=21

Dade County
10-10-2018, 07:19 PM
:laugh2:


I would prefer this deal that includes Middleton though....:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and a 1st pick from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

....because I think that if the Bucks would resign both Middleton and Butler, they won't be able to sign a 3rd All-Star, while if they would trade Middleton, we could make an offer for Kemba walker later this season (Brogdon + Ilyasova + smth) and other than challenge GSW this season, we would have the cap space to resign both Kemba & Butler for next season too.

I believe that by adding Butler, we would surely take the East this season and therefore Butler would resign, especially if we also add Kemba by trading for him this season, or out of free agency for next season.




Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, it will surely work:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos




Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, it will surely work:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos



Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos



Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

HEAT :layup:

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 07:21 PM
Hawkeye will say Jimmy is toxic but man, when literally everyone thinks Towns and Wiggins don't care about winning enough, what makes you think Jimmy doesn't see it? He's probably in the locker room focused on the next game and then he hears Towns and Wiggins talking about playing Fortnite. It doesn't even take much for someone to see that from Wiggins. Dude collected that check and gave up on improving.

Dudes 29 and wants to play with players who want to get better and compete and for an organization that has shown they can build championship teams. Him cooking the starters with the 3rd string tells you all you need to know about towns and Wiggins improving this summer......they didnít.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 07:22 PM
Jimmy said Towns came at him first today. Towns said ďanybody can get itĒ and Jimmy said ďthen give it to me, every time I guard you you kick it back out.Ē

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:24 PM
Absolutely wouldn't surprise me if Thibs loved it. But regardless Butler's not staying, so he has to deal with the players he's going to have.

mngopher35
10-10-2018, 07:26 PM
At this point it seems like everyone loses out if we trade him now. Keep him until the deadline and lets give people a show. Who wouldn't have loved to watch that practice? We can get that until February lol

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:27 PM
At this point it seems like everyone loses out if we trade him now. Keep him until the deadline and lets give people a show. Who wouldn't have loved to watch that practice? We can get that until February lol

If they put every single Wolves game on national TV between now and the deadline they'd make a killing.

buckalis
10-10-2018, 07:32 PM
HEAT :layup:

With what?

This is what no other can match out there... if you have better from Heat please suggest so that we can have a good laugh... The only Q out there is if the Buck's F.O. will be smart enough as to suggest it!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

...Then, later in the season when Hornets are deep down, F.O. should propose Brogdon + Illyasova + Connaughton for Kemba (another deal none will be able to match) and go out there kick GSW off their throne!

GREATNESS ONE
10-10-2018, 07:36 PM
Everything indicates that Butler thinks Towns and Wiggins are soft and that the coaches coddle them. I seriously doubt that this is some sort of Machiavellian maneuvering to motivate the team.

Butler needs to go to a team that is going to build around his personality, and bring in like minded players. Minnesota just committed to two laid back max players. He wants out.

What's a hand dab?

For real, you donít know what a hand dab is? Do you live in the middle of nowhere?

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:38 PM
For real, you donít know what a hand dab is? Do you live in the middle of nowhere?

I'm old. Is it the swoosh thing where your face goes in your elbow?

buckalis
10-10-2018, 07:49 PM
Everything indicates that Butler thinks Towns and Wiggins are soft and that the coaches coddle them. I seriously doubt that this is some sort of Machiavellian maneuvering to motivate the team.

Butler needs to go to a team that is going to build around his personality, and bring in like minded players. Minnesota just committed to two laid back max players. He wants out.

What's a hand dab?

But... he is right isn't he?

I mean the Bucks wings on Middleton, Brogdon, Snell & Brown, absolutely crashed the respective Wolves wings without Butler in the Iowa preseason game... If KAT didn't have those 33pts, this game could have end to a total and absolute humiliation for the Wolves, instead of just an easy victory for the Bucks that now seems to be the case...

Saddletramp
10-10-2018, 07:49 PM
I keep hearing Jimmy saying that he respects the game and wants to work hard and yaddayaddayadda...... If he really respected basketball, maybe he wouldnít **** a teammates girlfriend. Maybe he would just go out there and play as hard as he could this year and leave next year and not worry about any money he leaves on the table. Maybe heíd shut the **** up and try to help this good team turn into a fantastic team that can challenge for a title.

Maybe if he respected the game he wouldnít act like an ******* and try to humiliate his teammates both on and off the court.




I'm old. Is it the swoosh thing where your face goes in your elbow?

Just a fist bump. Thatís what us old timers call it.

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:49 PM
So Jimmy said in the interview that this all stems from the extension they offered him. They didn't move pieces to pay him max, but paid Towns and Wiggins max when he is clearly better than them.

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 07:55 PM
But... he is right isn't he?

I mean the Bucks wings on Middleton, Brogdon, Snell & Brown, absolutely crashed the respective Wolves wings without Butler in the Iowa preseason game... If KAT didn't have those 33pts, this game could have end to a total and absolute humiliation for the Wolves, instead of just an easy victory for the Bucks that now seems to be the case...

He's absolutely right. I was responding to the notion that Butler was actually trying to motivate the team because he cares about them and is in reality trying to stay in Minnesota. That's just wishful thinking.

buckalis
10-10-2018, 07:56 PM
So Jimmy said in the interview that this all stems from the extension they offered him. They didn't move pieces to pay him max, but paid Towns and Wiggins max when he is clearly better than them.

...and I thought all this is because Jimmy called KAT a "pushy" in the locker room, after KAT's girlfriend went with Jimmy...

I've said this before:

"Adult ladies make adult decisions and immature boys destroy NBA teams because of lost girlfriends..." This is all on KAT to blame... no other!

SiteWolf
10-10-2018, 08:08 PM
...and I thought all this is because Jimmy called KAT a "pushy" in the locker room, after KAT's girlfriend went with Jimmy...

I've said this before:

"Adult ladies make adult decisions and immature boys destroy NBA teams because of lost girlfriends..." This is all on KAT to blame... no other!

Even if Towns bears some blame, he's not the one making an *** of himself, Butler is

beasted86
10-10-2018, 08:09 PM
TBH, I was iffy on Butler before, but now after hearing his perspective on things I'm coming around.

Miami just can't give up too much for him. I think playing next to J Rich he'll make him a very good player. Miami needs to hold out on giving him up. He won't be an all-star, but an Evan Fournier type scorer along with great defense. He'll take that next step possibly with a leader like him.

buckalis
10-10-2018, 08:12 PM
Even if Towns bears some blame, he's not the one making an *** of himself, Butler is

It's because KAT wouldn't resign if he wouldn't get assurance that Jimmy would be expelled from the team... isn't it?

He thinks of Jimmy being unforgivable for going with a lady that wanted to be with him... isn't it?

...Because the lady happened to be KAT's girlfriend, isn't it?

beasted86
10-10-2018, 08:13 PM
I still don't expect Miami to get him though. Wolves too hard headed with Thibs in charge.

Oefarmy2005
10-10-2018, 08:15 PM
...and I thought all this is because Jimmy called KAT a "pushy" in the locker room, after KAT's girlfriend went with Jimmy...

I've said this before:

"Adult ladies make adult decisions and immature boys destroy NBA teams because of lost girlfriends..." This is all on KAT to blame... no other!

You have officially confirmed the notion I had that you are a moron. I can't put it any more mildly than that.

Jamiecballer
10-10-2018, 08:15 PM
I still don't expect Miami to get him though. Wolves too hard headed with Thibs in charge.At this point I cant see him landing anywhere else

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buckalis
10-10-2018, 08:18 PM
I still don't expect Miami to get him though. Wolves too hard headed with Thibs in charge.

Miami doesn't get him, because they have no offer to make that other teams can easily beat... Not unless if those other teams don't put the deals they can on the table anyway... If the Bucks (for instance) put this on the table....:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

..... then there is no other to match! ...simple!

unleashthebeast
10-10-2018, 08:24 PM
Buckalis just stop bro seriously :laugh2:

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 08:30 PM
Buckalis please shut the **** up!

buckalis
10-10-2018, 08:33 PM
He's absolutely right. I was responding to the notion that Butler was actually trying to motivate the team because he cares about them and is in reality trying to stay in Minnesota. That's just wishful thinking.

He ain't "trying to be in MIN"... He would, if the F.O. would think reasonably, but it seems to me there is a lot of "Trump logic" with the Wolves F.O. and therefore Jimmy wants out...

In any case, KAT & Jimmy can't be in the same team and Wolves F.O. did the mistake as to resign KAT for a premium max, they therefore decided on him staying...

EDIT: Nothing to blame on Thibs either on the above... it's all ownership decision, Thibs is trying his best to keep the team going...

I've seen this before... Ownership is "doping the fans as to make Thibs look incapable" so that they can force Thibs to resign and give up the rest of his contract... That's all there is into it on F.O. level...

I insist that Jimmy and Thibs are right on this one and all the rest, going with the media and all, is "American history X"...

IKnowHoops
10-10-2018, 08:40 PM
I mean does this not kill the trade value even more?

Not if Jimmy is locking up Towns

IKnowHoops
10-10-2018, 08:42 PM
1050126372859981824

Got give him a standing O for that though.

redsox12
10-10-2018, 09:01 PM
Youíre a weird guy


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Jimmy crapped all over the team to their faces. At some point you have to just move on because if they hang on to Jimmy all season long, it will keep happening until it gets to a Mirotic/Portis situation and someone gets hurt.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 09:04 PM
JRich with 16 in the 1st showing off for the wolves.

buckalis
10-10-2018, 09:09 PM
......it will keep happening until it gets to a Mirotic/Portis situation and someone gets hurt...

Exactly that... and the FOs of teams tend to decide on the wrong side and then, the team gets hurt!

IKnowHoops
10-10-2018, 09:17 PM
At this point it seems like everyone loses out if we trade him now. Keep him until the deadline and lets give people a show. Who wouldn't have loved to watch that practice? We can get that until February lol

Exactly, time to hold him...

Not fold him, walk away or run

beasted86
10-10-2018, 09:26 PM
Exactly, time to hold him...

Not fold him, walk away or run

No, men the best time it is now to move from the Jimmy Butler disc traction.
Wolves should take offer best on the table:


Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

..... nobody else comes clothes ...simple!

redsox12
10-10-2018, 09:36 PM
Exactly, time to hold him...

Not fold him, walk away or run

and what happens if Butler does it again and this time Towns fights back and gets hurt, maybe severely?

Hawkeye15
10-10-2018, 09:42 PM
So Jimmy said in the interview that this all stems from the extension they offered him. They didn't move pieces to pay him max, but paid Towns and Wiggins max when he is clearly better than them.

Starbury 2.0

beasted86
10-10-2018, 09:45 PM
Starbury 2.0

Wolves bid against themselves with Wiggins IMO.

If Kings want to max him, you match later.

Stunner
10-10-2018, 09:45 PM
Trade Wiggins

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 09:48 PM
Exactly, time to hold him...

Not fold him, walk away or run

That would be a terrible decision lol

IKnowHoops
10-10-2018, 09:52 PM
and what happens if Butler does it again and this time Towns fights back and gets hurt, maybe severely?

Nobody should get physical. If Jimmy is just outplaying you, then you gotta be a man and figure out how to get better and beat him. Your 7ft tall. This is a good hurdle for him if he wants to be elite. Jimmy couldnít guard Tim Duncan so KAT figure it out and beat him.

IKnowHoops
10-10-2018, 09:56 PM
That would be a terrible decision lol

If you are saying this, in this case, I know that means itís a great decision. Thank you for the conformation brother! Thankful for you friend!

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 10:02 PM
If you are saying this, in this case, I know that means itís a great decision. Thank you for the conformation brother! Thankful for you friend!

Brother never talk to me in such regard again. Iíll let this slide and Pray for you.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 10:04 PM
Nobody should get physical. If Jimmy is just outplaying you, then you gotta be a man and figure out how to get better and beat him. Your 7ft tall. This is a good hurdle for him if he wants to be elite. Jimmy couldnít guard Tim Duncan so KAT figure it out and beat him.

That ainít how it works. 2 competitive guys going st each other and talking **** doesnít mix well. Lucky for the Wolves, Towns is soft and will just back down

IKnowHoops
10-10-2018, 10:11 PM
That ainít how it works. 2 competitive guys going st each other and talking **** doesnít mix well. Lucky for the Wolves, Towns is soft and will just back down

Exactly...for Towns, outplaying him is his only option

IndyRealist
10-10-2018, 10:12 PM
That ainít how it works. 2 competitive guys going st each other and talking **** doesnít mix well. Lucky for the Wolves, Towns is soft and will just back down

There's nobody on that roster that would throw down on Butler. Taj maybe?

Cracka2HI!
10-10-2018, 10:19 PM
What a **** show but so awesome! I wonder if this might actually bring the Wolves together. Pretty bad *** by Butler if you ask me. I wonder what his trade value actually is. I don't know if the J-Rich + 1st offer was real but that's the best I've heard. I wonder what The Clippers best offer was if they even made one. It sounds crazy to say this but with the way Gallinari is playing I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even make an offer.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 10:35 PM
There's nobody on that roster that would throw down on Butler. Taj maybe?

Him and Taj are boys

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 10:36 PM
Pretty crazy though, Rachel Nichols got the call last night that Jimmy was ready to talk. He knew he would cook the starters with the 3rd string and dominate towns and Wiggins to the point they planned an interview over all of it lol.

Dade County
10-10-2018, 11:13 PM
Buckalis just stop bro seriously :laugh2:


No, men the best time it is now to move from the Jimmy Butler disc traction.
Wolves should take offer best on the table:


Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

..... nobody else comes clothes ...simple!

:laugh2:

R. Johnson#3
10-10-2018, 11:36 PM
There's nobody on that roster that would throw down on Butler. Taj maybe?

Imagine if Pek was still there.

Pierzynski4Prez
10-10-2018, 11:41 PM
No, men the best time it is now to move from the Jimmy Butler disc traction.
Wolves should take offer best on the table:


Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

..... nobody else comes clothes ...simple!

Pretty sweet deal for all. Too bad it wasn't mentioned earlier people would be all over this.

WaDe03
10-10-2018, 11:42 PM
Pretty sweet deal for all. Too bad it wasn't mentioned earlier people would be all over this.

Easily the best deal Iíve seen on here, great job beasted!

CityofTreez
10-10-2018, 11:48 PM
Jimmy is hilarious.
Comes back to practice when cameras are rolling and beats the 1st unit even though heís the best player and talk ****. You need me! Of course they need you with the haul last off-season. They were a sleeper 3seed until his injury, and heís coming back healthy. Wtf is this

More-Than-Most
10-10-2018, 11:49 PM
By using your stat RPM Covington was better than Embiid !!!!! Covington was carrying Embiid and Simmons all the way to the 2nd round!


RPM thoooooo. Lololololol

I said this and I said he was earlier in the thread... Covington was better because of 1 massive massive issue from embiid... His horrid turnovers.. He had a **** ton of them... That and his 3point pct really hurt his value.

More-Than-Most
10-10-2018, 11:50 PM
I credit the wolves here... If all the heat were offering was a first and a bench piece in Richardson id have declined and kept his *** too.

Dade County
10-11-2018, 12:00 AM
I credit the wolves here... If all the heat were offering was a first and a bench piece in Richardson id have declined and kept his *** too.

I don't believe that they even offering a first-round pick, that seems a little too much for a 1yr rental.

It's not guarantee he re-signs.

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 12:31 AM
I said this and I said he was earlier in the thread... Covington was better because of 1 massive massive issue from embiid... His horrid turnovers.. He had a **** ton of them... That and his 3point pct really hurt his value.

Bruh give it a rest he was at the very best your allís 3rd best player.

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 12:32 AM
I credit the wolves here... If all the heat were offering was a first and a bench piece in Richardson id have declined and kept his *** too.

Minnesota reporters said The wolves wouldnít have turned down that deal if it was offered.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-11-2018, 07:19 AM
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MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-11-2018, 07:24 AM
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MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-11-2018, 07:34 AM
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buckalis
10-11-2018, 07:37 AM
No, men the best time it is now to move from the Jimmy Butler disc traction.
Wolves should take offer best on the table:


Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

..... nobody else comes close...simple!

..........You shouldn't post my suggestion as if it is yours..........

Anyway this deal, if proposed by the Bucks, it would surely work because it's a win-win-win-win proposal for the following reasons:

1. The Hawks get 3x2nds back from dealing Bazemore, which is far more than what they should expect, because one of the picks (the Kings one) will be a high 2nd and because they have to clear 3 roster spots before the season starts. Also, the Hawks retain in their books Bazemore's salary for next season and even add a couple of millions on top and open a roster spot so that they can retain and use their youth instead...

2. The Kings are clear winners, because they get back two guards as to support FOX and they add a 1st pick so that they can opt for a starting PG of their choice next season, in addition they upgrade from Koufos by adding Dieng.

3. The Wolves get back two wings, both for their starting roster as to make back from loosing Butler and move Dieng's contract, while they upgrade on his position by adding a better center who still in his rookie contract.

4. The Bucks improve their starting roster by upgrading from Middleton to Butler and clear lots of cap space for next season by clearing the contracts of Delly, Henson and Maker , so that they can resign Butler and can even add another TOP-20 All Star next to Giannis & Butler...

They can even move and make a very serious offer for Kemba Walker just before the trade deadline, when the Hornets will be out of hope in ranking higher, by offering Ilyasova + Brogdon + Connaughton and go to the finals with all Kemba, Butler and Giannis as to give the GSW a very serious run for the title...

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-11-2018, 07:38 AM
Wolves should pull a switcher-rooo. Trade Teague and KAT to Celtics for Irving. Wiggins to Heat for Johnson & Johnson baby wipes. Even though Irving said he was staying with Celtics. Or Kat to the Suns for Ayton and some salary filler.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-11-2018, 07:40 AM
..........You shouldn't post my suggestion as if it is yours..........

Anyway this deal, if proposed by the Bucks, it would surely work because it's a win-win-win-win proposal for the following reasons:

1. The Hawks get 3x2nds back from dealing Bazemore, which is far more than what they should expect, because one of the picks (the Kings one) will be a high 2nd and because they have to clear 3 roster spots before the season starts. Also, the Hawks retain in their books Bazemore's salary for next season and even add a couple of millions on top and open a roster spot so that they can retain and use their youth instead...

2. The Kings are clear winners, because they get back two guards as to support FOX and they add a 1st pick so that they can opt for a starting PG of their choice next season, in addition they upgrade from Koufos by adding Dieng.

3. The Wolves get back two wings, both for their starting roster as to make back from loosing Butler and move Dieng's contract, while they upgrade on his position by adding a better center who still in his rookie contract.

4. The Bucks improve their starting roster by upgrading from Middleton to Butler and clear lots of cap space for next season by clearing the contracts of Delly, Henson and Maker , so that they can resign Butler and can even add another TOP-20 All Star next to Giannis & Butler...

They can even move and make a very serious offer for Kemba Walker just before the trade deadline, when the Hornets will be out of hope in ranking higher, by offering Ilyasova + Brogdon + Connaughton and go to the finals with all Kemba, Butler and Giannis as to give the GSW a very serious run for the title...

I'd offer Bledsoe and Brogdon for Kemba.

warfelg
10-11-2018, 07:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

buckalis
10-11-2018, 08:44 AM
I'd offer Bledsoe and Brogdon for Kemba.

The Hornets won't want (expiring) Bledsoe... They'll take Brogdon and Ilyasova instead... Also, if the Bucks would loose both Brogdon and Bledsoe and also move Delly & Frazier in a deal for Butler, they would then end up with only Kemba Waker as PG, while by moving Ilyasova, there is no harm done in the roster as Wood has risen to a valuable roster piece.

Best thing for financial tactics, would be for the Bucks to go after Kemba out of free agency and let Bledsoe go, but if they can get Kemba and Butler this season, they could end up seriously challenging GSW for the title...

Never the less, from a financial POV, Ilyasova & Brogdon must be moved if the Bucks would want to have 3-super max contracts and retain them, it therefore may make sense to move them this season for Kemba, instead of looking to trade them next season...

ewing
10-11-2018, 09:05 AM
Jimmy crapped all over the team to their faces. At some point you have to just move on because if they hang on to Jimmy all season long, it will keep happening until it gets to a Mirotic/Portis situation and someone gets hurt.

so soft

ewing
10-11-2018, 09:06 AM
and what happens if Butler does it again and this time Towns fights back and gets hurt, maybe severely?

they all should wear hamlets

TheDish87
10-11-2018, 09:13 AM
i love Butler. How you gonna let the man run the floor with the end of bench guys? Towns and Wiggins are way too soft. Cant win with em.

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 09:23 AM
Wolves bid against themselves with Wiggins IMO.

If Kings want to max him, you match later.

I thought I instructed all of you to not mention Wiggins name anymore.

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 09:25 AM
Imagine if Pek was still there.

I never thought of that. God I would LOVE Butler spouting off to Pek

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 10:14 AM
Timberwolves cancelled practice today and thereís no media availability. Jimmy had planned on practicing today, hopefully this means theyíre going to try and get a trade done today so we can finally get this over with.

Stunner
10-11-2018, 10:17 AM
Lmfaoo this team man

Stunner
10-11-2018, 10:17 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181011/1a879cf921d4d2d487d9224e4eea633e.jpg

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 10:18 AM
Jimmy told Rachel he asked for a trade 4 days after the season

Stunner
10-11-2018, 10:22 AM
Lmao this on them

mightybosstone
10-11-2018, 10:25 AM
Interesting to me that in the middle of the interview with Nichols when she brings up the playoff series with the Rockets, Jimmy interrupts her to say "That's a really good team too by the way."

Not saying that I think he's going to Houston, but you don't say something like that in that circumstance unless you're trying to drop a hint. I think he knows the Rockets have been in the mix and wouldn't mind at all coming back to Houston. That being said, I don't think Morey will be upping his offer anytime soon and has moved on from the deal. But if this thing lasts until Oct. 31, I could see Morey trying some different strategies...

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 10:28 AM
Timberwolves cancelled practice today and thereís no media availability. Jimmy had planned on practicing today, hopefully this means theyíre going to try and get a trade done today so we can finally get this over with.

KAT prob called the owner after crying

Cal827
10-11-2018, 10:39 AM
Jesus christ this team :laugh2:

I'm sorry Hawkeye

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 10:44 AM
Timberwolves cancelled practice today and thereís no media availability. Jimmy had planned on practicing today, hopefully this means theyíre going to try and get a trade done today so we can finally get this over with.

or perhaps they are going to bring him to a local KinderCare, where the teachers try and show young toddlers not to react with tantrums to solve problems

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 10:45 AM
reminds me of Seinfeld

"Jimmy's gittin upset!"

R. Johnson#3
10-11-2018, 10:45 AM
I never thought of that. God I would LOVE Butler spouting off to Pek

Pek would probably knock his lights out and injure himself in the process.

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 10:46 AM
Jesus christ this team :laugh2:

I'm sorry Hawkeye

I mean, my foot was already out the door the moment Wiggins was signed. I *****ed about it for 3 years, it became a reality, blah blah blah. Taylor needs to die or sell. Until then, its a joke of a franchise.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 10:47 AM
Interesting to me that in the middle of the interview with Nichols when she brings up the playoff series with the Rockets, Jimmy interrupts her to say "That's a really good team too by the way."

Not saying that I think he's going to Houston, but you don't say something like that in that circumstance unless you're trying to drop a hint. I think he knows the Rockets have been in the mix and wouldn't mind at all coming back to Houston. That being said, I don't think Morey will be upping his offer anytime soon and has moved on from the deal. But if this thing lasts until Oct. 31, I could see Morey trying some different strategies...

It is a natural reaction... Like all players of his level, he will want to be part of a team that can get him a championship... Partly the reason why I don't believe that Butler will want to join the Heat or the Clippers...

He knows that if he will join the Rockets, or the Celtics, or the Bucks he will then be able to make the difference on all those teams as to go out and challenge the GSW for the title... He also knows that he will soon turn 30 and therefore the team he goes to, will be his last chance as to be competing for the 3-4 seasons that will follow this one.

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 10:49 AM
It is a natural reaction... Like all players of his level, he will want to be part of a team that can get him a championship... Partly the reason why I don't believe that Butler will want to join the Heat or the Clippers...

He knows that if he will join the Rockets, or the Celtics, or the Bucks he will then be able to make the difference on all those teams as to go out and challenge the GSW for the title... He also knows that he will soon turn 30 and therefore the team he goes to, will be his last chance as to be competing for the 3-4 seasons that will follow this one.

Bucks finished behind Miami last year though lol.

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 10:50 AM
It is a natural reaction... Like all players of his level, he will want to be part of a team that can get him a championship... Partly the reason why I don't believe that Butler will want to join the Heat or the Clippers...

He knows that if he will join the Rockets, or the Celtics, or the Bucks he will then be able to make the difference on all those teams as to go out and challenge the GSW for the title... He also knows that he will soon turn 30 and therefore the team he goes to, will be his last chance as to be competing for the 3-4 seasons that will follow this one.

Butler is pissed he will be the 3rd highest paid player on the team this year. That is it. It's all about money, regardless of what he says.

mightybosstone
10-11-2018, 10:58 AM
Butler is pissed he will be the 3rd highest paid player on the team this year. That is it. It's all about money, regardless of what he says.

Yeah, but even if the Wolves came to him right now and said, "We want to make you the highest paid Wolves player in the history of the franchise. Here's a five-year supermax contract with a no trade clause. Also, here's a Porsche and a lucrative promotional deal with a major Minnesota business and a crate full of adorable puppies." I'm pretty sure, that wouldn't make a difference at this point. I don't think it's completely about money.

Stunner
10-11-2018, 11:02 AM
Looks like itís Jimmy / Taj / Deng / Rose / Thibs / Teague vs KAT / Wiggins/ Owners

Stunner
10-11-2018, 11:03 AM
https://youtu.be/ugEdn2M_z6s

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 11:05 AM
Yeah, but even if the Wolves came to him right now and said, "We want to make you the highest paid Wolves player in the history of the franchise. Here's a five-year supermax contract with a no trade clause. Also, here's a Porsche and a lucrative promotional deal with a major Minnesota business and a crate full of adorable puppies." I'm pretty sure, that wouldn't make a difference at this point. I don't think it's completely about money.

Butler apparently asked for a restructure/max extension after the season. That requires you to make cap space, meaning we would have had to trade/release players. Mgmt told him wait 1 year, and they will max him. He is pissed they didn't do it for this upcoming year.

At this point, the reasons no longer matter. You can't show up and throw a tantrum like he did, and expect to ever be taken seriously again inside that organization. I know "winning fixes all", but sometimes it doesn't. The relationship is broken, and despite the fact Butler is right (Wiggins/Towns are coddled), he went about it terribly wrong, and isn't helping his plight.

Furthermore, I don't even care what the Wolves do on this. Keep him, trade him, whatever. I don't care. If I do watch them, it will be to hate watch Wiggins all year.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 11:15 AM
No... it's not about money, he would get the max contract anyway, either out of another team in free agency, or by the Wolves if relations were the appropriate ones for him to stay... He wants to leave a season earlier which makes no difference on his income.

KAT can't be in the same team as Butler and Butler can't be in the same team as KAT... It's as simple as this... All happening because of some girlfriend that cheated on KAT and did it with Butler... The fault is clearly with KAT, who blamed Butler for this instead of blaming his girlfriend...

Perhaps Butler was right to call him a "*****" back...

IndyRealist
10-11-2018, 11:29 AM
No... it's not about money, he would get the max contract anyway, either out of another team in free agency, or by the Wolves if relations were the appropriate ones for him to stay... He wants to leave a season earlier which makes no difference on his income.

KAT can't be in the same team as Butler and Butler can't be in the same team as KAT... It's as simple as this... All happening because of some girlfriend that cheated on KAT and did it with Butler... The fault is clearly with KAT, who blamed Butler for this instead of blaming his girlfriend...

Perhaps Butler was right to call him a "*****" back...

It's about ego. Butler was burning up that he wasn't the highest paid player on the team. So he screwed KAT's girl to dog on him (assuming it actually happened).

buckalis
10-11-2018, 11:31 AM
Looks like itís Jimmy / Taj / Deng / Rose / Thibs / Teague vs KAT / Wiggins/ Owners

The bad thing about this, is clearly the owners getting involved and choosing a side... IMO, they are looking for a way as to have Thibs resigning from his contract and avoid pay him a compensation... This thing is going on from last midseason, the owners should have asked for Thibs to solve this out and not get involved at all...

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 11:38 AM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

buckalis
10-11-2018, 11:41 AM
It's about ego. Butler was burning up that he wasn't the highest paid player on the team. So he screwed KAT's girl to dog on him (assuming it actually happened).

I doubt that reasoning... I believe the "money thing" is a rumor deliberately spread by the owners towards the fans and the press as for them to have a (cheap) excuse on why they chose side...

After all, girlfriends don't go with another unless they want to...

IndyRealist
10-11-2018, 11:43 AM
I doubt that reasoning... I believe the "money thing" is a rumor deliberately spread by the owners towards the fans and the press as for them to have a (cheap) excuse on why they chose side...

After all, girlfriends don't go with another unless they want to...

He said IN THE INTERVIEW that is was 100% about the extension they offered him. You're literally making that up.

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 11:50 AM
Yeah, but even if the Wolves came to him right now and said, "We want to make you the highest paid Wolves player in the history of the franchise. Here's a five-year supermax contract with a no trade clause. Also, here's a Porsche and a lucrative promotional deal with a major Minnesota business and a crate full of adorable puppies." I'm pretty sure, that wouldn't make a difference at this point. I don't think it's completely about money.

Heíd sign for all that...itís 100% about the money...as it should be...he is the best player on the squad, Iíd be pissed too...and Iím bout to be 30? If Iím Jimmy I do what I gotta do to secure the bag.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 11:50 AM
He said IN THE INTERVIEW that is was 100% about the extension they offered him. You're literally making that up.

How much they did offer him? If you want to get rid of somebody because you are the owner and you have chosen side, the best way to find an excuse, is to make a silly offer that you know the player won't accept...

How do you explain that KAT wouldn't resign unless he gets assurance that Butler will leave the team? Is that money related too?

EDIT: Besides, what do you expect a player to reply on an interview, if asked "why you want to leave the team?" do you expect him to say "I have bad relations with KAT & Wiggins"? ...no (real) professional would ever state that in public...

GREATNESS ONE
10-11-2018, 12:10 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 12:13 PM
How much they did offer him? If you want to get rid of somebody because you are the owner and you have chosen side, the best way to find an excuse, is to make a silly offer that you know the player won't accept...

How do you explain that KAT wouldn't resign unless he gets assurance that Butler will leave the team? Is that money related too?

EDIT: Besides, what do you expect a player to reply on an interview, if asked "why you want to leave the team?" do you expect him to say "I have bad relations with KAT & Wiggins"? ...no (real) professional would ever state that in public...

They offered him the max 4 year extension. Which he turned down. He wanted them to restructure his deal to be able to offer the 5 year supermax, but as I already stated, that means under rules, you need to create that space so the Wolves would have needed to create cap space, which meant trading/releasing players. They asked Jimmy to please hold on 1 year, and they would extend him for 5 years with the supermax. Well, he didn't want to wait, so he demanded a trade.

This is 10000000000000000000000000000000% about him being paid less than Wiggins this year, and that Towns got the max.

Butler has zero understanding of how the cap works clearly.

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 12:14 PM
Heíd sign for all that...itís 100% about the money...as it should be...he is the best player on the squad, Iíd be pissed too...and Iím bout to be 30? If Iím Jimmy I do what I gotta do to secure the bag.

and he would get the 5 year max, had he waited another season. If the Wolves don't get a trade partner, I shelve him and keep him. He can't get the same amount of money on the open market. **** him, and mess with his $$ if need be.

mightybosstone
10-11-2018, 12:14 PM
I know a lot of people would disagree with me on this, but if I'm Minnesota at this point, I might consider doing a 180 and flipping the script. Rather than shopping Butler, I'd start shopping Wiggins. I'd pretty much give him up to a young team for a club sandwich and some mediocre players on mediocre contracts to make up the difference. Then I go to Butler, offer him literally whatever he wants and try to rebuild that relationship in the year I have left to fix it.

Does it make you look bad as an organization, like you're catering to the whims of your immature superstar? Absolutely. But it also keeps you from being a substantially worse basketball team, and winning is more important than looking like the laughing stock of the league, which they already are. Honestly, I'm not sure the public opinion of the Wolves and how they've been run as a franchise can get much worse, so what do they have to lose? You might as well do the thing that gives you the best chance to win in the future, and that thing absolutely would include keeping Jimmy Butler.

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 12:16 PM
Butler apparently asked for a restructure/max extension after the season. That requires you to make cap space, meaning we would have had to trade/release players. Mgmt told him wait 1 year, and they will max him. He is pissed they didn't do it for this upcoming year.

At this point, the reasons no longer matter. You can't show up and throw a tantrum like he did, and expect to ever be taken seriously again inside that organization. I know "winning fixes all", but sometimes it doesn't. The relationship is broken, and despite the fact Butler is right (Wiggins/Towns are coddled), he went about it terribly wrong, and isn't helping his plight.

Furthermore, I don't even care what the Wolves do on this. Keep him, trade him, whatever. I don't care. If I do watch them, it will be to hate watch Wiggins all year.

More than anything, I want Wiggins to break out while you hate watch and become that guy

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 12:18 PM
More than anything, I want Wiggins to break out while you hate watch and become that guy

I know you do, because then you can scream "told you so". I get that too dude. But he is a lost cause.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 12:29 PM
They offered him the max 4 year extension. Which he turned down. He wanted them to restructure his deal to be able to offer the 5 year supermax, but as I already stated, that means under rules, you need to create that space so the Wolves would have needed to create cap space, which meant trading/releasing players. They asked Jimmy to please hold on 1 year, and they would extend him for 5 years with the supermax. Well, he didn't want to wait, so he demanded a trade.

This is 10000000000000000000000000000000% about him being paid less than Wiggins this year, and that Towns got the max.

Butler has zero understanding of how the cap works clearly.

You didn't answer this part... "How do you explain that KAT wouldn't resign unless he gets assurance that Butler will leave the team? Is that money related too?" ....which is directly related with the discussion we have.

So, IYO, Butler should have understanding of how cap space works and not get an extension for this season although he is 30, but KAT or Wiggins who both are much younger, should get their max extensions... right?

IndyRealist
10-11-2018, 12:30 PM
How much they did offer him? If you want to get rid of somebody because you are the owner and you have chosen side, the best way to find an excuse, is to make a silly offer that you know the player won't accept...

How do you explain that KAT wouldn't resign unless he gets assurance that Butler will leave the team? Is that money related too?

EDIT: Besides, what do you expect a player to reply on an interview, if asked "why you want to leave the team?" do you expect him to say "I have bad relations with KAT & Wiggins"? ...no (real) professional would ever state that in public...

What does KAT's motivations for signing an extension have to do with Butler's motivations for wanting out?

You're literally making things up, with no facts whatsoever, to paint the owner as the villain because you want Butler to be on your team. Butler gave the reason he wants out, because he wasn't getting the deal he wanted. Everything he's done is to force them to trade him.

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 12:36 PM
and he would get the 5 year max, had he waited another season. If the Wolves don't get a trade partner, I shelve him and keep him. He can't get the same amount of money on the open market. **** him, and mess with his $$ if need be.

Yeah for sure

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 12:39 PM
I know you do, because then you can scream "told you so". I get that too dude. But he is a lost cause.

Itís not so I can scream told you so, itís for you to be put in a position where you hate a guy that you were dead wrong about that is now balling for your team. I want to see where you go from there.

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 12:44 PM
I know you do, because then you can scream "told you so". I get that too dude. But he is a lost cause.


Itís not so I can scream told you so, itís for you to be put in a position where you hate a guy that you were dead wrong about that is now balling for your team. I want to see where you go from there.

I want to see if he can turn you. I would enjoy monitoring that process if him doing so. Itís kind of like pulling a chic that hates you. But in a fan sense. I want to see more than anything, Wiggins pull you after spitting game at you for a couple months.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 12:55 PM
What does KAT's motivations for signing an extension have to do with Butler's motivations for wanting out?

Everything... he wouldn't sign unless he was assured that Butler would leave the team... that says it all!


You're literally making things up, with no facts whatsoever, to paint the owner as the villain because you want Butler to be on your team. Butler gave the reason he wants out, because he wasn't getting the deal he wanted. Everything he's done is to force them to trade him.

But... I'm not making anything up, numbers speak for themselves... Butler has a contract for this season and resigning him for next season for a max (32.4M next season), would only require to move one out of Teague or Dieng for an expiring contract... Everything else is cheap excuses... Koufos for Dieng + a pick is something that the Kings would happily accept... (and probably they will now as they seem to be getting involved in the next to happen Butler deal)

Luxury cap for next season is expected to rise at 132M...

EDIT: Besides, I think (I'm not 100% sure) that Butler could get a 5 year contract only if offered by the Wolves, with another team now, he can only have an up to 4 seasons extension....

Pierzynski4Prez
10-11-2018, 01:03 PM
Everything... he wouldn't sign unless he was assured that Butler would leave the team... that says it all!



But... I'm not making anything up, numbers speak for themselves... Butler has a contract for this season and resigning him for next season for a max (32.4M next season), would only require to move one out of Teague or Dieng for an expiring contract... Everything else is cheap excuses... Koufos for Dieng + a pick is something that the Kings would happily accept... (and probably they will now as they seem to be getting involved in the next to happen Butler deal)

Luxury cap for next season is expected to rise at 132M...

If the Kings are getting involved, what do you think of this trade proposal that I came up with:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

Rivera
10-11-2018, 01:07 PM
this thread lol

one group is now beating down the same trade posted by the same poster that he posted a number of different times
one group is in love with Jimmys toughness
one group is loving hawkeyes emotions and thoughts on his wolves with whats going on

this thread is good stuff lol

buckalis
10-11-2018, 01:15 PM
If the Kings are getting involved, what do you think of this trade proposal that I came up with:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

But... you don't have the brains to come up with 100% feasible deals that would fully satisfy all teams involved... Partly the reason why you steal one of mine... but don't worry... reading my posts, will advance your intelligence significantly!

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 01:28 PM
this thread lol

one group is now beating down the same trade posted by the same poster that he posted a number of different times
one group is in love with Jimmys toughness
one group is loving hawkeyes emotions and thoughts on his wolves with whats going on

this thread is good stuff lol

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Oefarmy2005
10-11-2018, 01:32 PM
I want to see if he can turn you. I would enjoy monitoring that process if him doing so. Itís kind of like pulling a chic that hates you. But in a fan sense. I want to see more than anything, Wiggins pull you after spitting game at you for a couple months.

I agree with Hawkeye. At this point, Wiggins is the next Darko Milicic in the "great" history of this franchise.

Oefarmy2005
10-11-2018, 01:33 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

buckalis
10-11-2018, 01:37 PM
this thread lol

one group is now beating down the same trade posted by the same poster that he posted a number of different times


It's because they know that this deal has the highest chances to happen if proposed by the Bucks and they don't want it to happen... They don't want the Bucks to get Butler... It also proves some stupid because they are playing the insider/Messiah here, yet they can't come up with a feasible proposal that would beat this... Just trolls!

IKnowHoops
10-11-2018, 01:42 PM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 @ this thread

This thread is fire

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 01:48 PM
You didn't answer this part... "How do you explain that KAT wouldn't resign unless he gets assurance that Butler will leave the team? Is that money related too?" ....which is directly related with the discussion we have.

So, IYO, Butler should have understanding of how cap space works and not get an extension for this season although he is 30, but KAT or Wiggins who both are much younger, should get their max extensions... right?

I don't know what KAT's issue was exactly. Nor do I care.

Honestly, I am coming around to being fine with what Butler did. The losing culture of the Wolves is very real. Butler's motivations might have come from feeling disrespected with his contract extension, but he is absolutely right that Wiggins/Towns are coddled, and don't work hard enough. Both have the talent to dominate, and while KAT is an awesome offensive player, he is not the impact player he could be. Wiggins is a pile of **** that has zero business making what he makes, you unfortunately can't fix no fire in a heart.

I am starting to believe this is exactly what the Wolves need to hear, from top to bottom. "You are losers". Yes, they are.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 01:55 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

The Bucks surely get Butler if they propose this alright... and then they go play to the finals this season and can even seriously challenge GSW for the title, if they offer next Brogdon + Ilyasova + smth to the Hornets for Kemba Walker later before the trade deadline this season...

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 01:57 PM
why on earth are there so many Bucks trade scenarios in this thread?

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 02:04 PM
at the end of the day, it would be nice if Towns accepted the challenge. Wiggins is way past a lost cause, but hopefully this doesn't send Towns back to his room crying. Though it being MN, whatever worst case is, shall happen.

Jamiecballer
10-11-2018, 02:04 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & KoufosThat wont get it done. But I'm certain this would:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

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buckalis
10-11-2018, 02:05 PM
why on earth are there so many Bucks trade scenarios in this thread?

Because no other team can make a better offer than this for Jimmy Butler ...perhaps?

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 02:07 PM
Because no other team can make a better offer than this for Jimmy Butler ...perhaps?

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

I appreciate the efforts in constructing trades, but it's such a wasted effort imo.

Hell, Thib's is probably going down with the ship on this one. It would be awesome if he traded Wiggins for a washing machine and kept Butler.

Rivera
10-11-2018, 02:08 PM
why on earth are there so many Bucks trade scenarios in this thread?

its the same one lol buckalis posted this trade scenario at least 2 or 3 different times and at this point people are having fun with it and keep re posting it lol

Vinylman
10-11-2018, 02:08 PM
Still... Despite what everybody says... if this is proposed by the Bucks, they get him... no other to match out there!

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

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Your best troll ever Ö hands down :hi5:

buckalis
10-11-2018, 02:21 PM
I appreciate the efforts in constructing trades, but it's such a wasted effort imo.

Hell, Thib's is probably going down with the ship on this one. It would be awesome if he traded Wiggins for a washing machine and kept Butler.

Personally I understand Thibs, he worked his *** to get the Wolves back to the map and now the ownership wants to destroy all he created for and perhaps to force him as to quit, rather than fire him and pay him...

But at the end, he will have to trade Butler and get back the best he can as to keep the team going, because he isn't the one paying for the contracts and the ownership will refuse extending Butler if he would decide on keeping him...

IMO, he will go all the way and get the best possible players back, so that he can still fight for a place in the playoffs and he will insist to move Dieng with the Butler trade, so that he will have the cap space as to try and progress the team further than last season...

I like people that are fighting against the wind and believe that they can make it...

EDIT: I also believe that he will try and move Teague (most probably to the Suns or to Orlando) after the Butler deal is done...

IndyRealist
10-11-2018, 02:33 PM
Everything... he wouldn't sign unless he was assured that Butler would leave the team... that says it all!



But... I'm not making anything up, numbers speak for themselves... Butler has a contract for this season and resigning him for next season for a max (32.4M next season), would only require to move one out of Teague or Dieng for an expiring contract... Everything else is cheap excuses... Koufos for Dieng + a pick is something that the Kings would happily accept... (and probably they will now as they seem to be getting involved in the next to happen Butler deal)

Luxury cap for next season is expected to rise at 132M...

EDIT: Besides, I think (I'm not 100% sure) that Butler could get a 5 year contract only if offered by the Wolves, with another team now, he can only have an up to 4 seasons extension....

I'm concerned that you can't accept new information right in front of your face when it contradicts the opinion you just made up that had no basis in fact, it just sounded right to you. There's nothing dignified about doubling down on something factually incorrect. It just makes you wrong.

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 02:40 PM
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Your best troll ever Ö hands down :hi5:

Thank you!

WaDe03
10-11-2018, 02:43 PM
If the Kings are getting involved, what do you think of this trade proposal that I came up with:

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

The Bucks surely get Butler if they propose this alright... and then they go play to the finals this season and can even seriously challenge GSW for the title, if they offer next Brogdon + Ilyasova + smth to the Hornets for Kemba Walker later before the trade deadline this....

Oefarmy2005
10-11-2018, 02:43 PM
Because no other team can make a better offer than this for Jimmy Butler ...perhaps?

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

I honestly think I have an even better trade offer in mind. I can wholeheartedly guarantee, that if this trade was proposed, Butler will surely be playing in Milwaukee next season.

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos + Anger management classes for Butler

buckalis
10-11-2018, 03:03 PM
I honestly think I have an even better trade offer in mind. I can wholeheartedly guarantee, that if this trade was proposed, Butler will surely be playing in Milwaukee next season.

Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos + Anger management classes for Butler

There is no anger managment classes needed with the Bucks... We are famous for our locker room brotherhood because of Giannis ability to unite, inspire and lead his teammates... He even comes up with original punishment ideas if one does something wrong... The other day he filled Delly's car with... popcorn!

MygirlhatesCod
10-11-2018, 03:31 PM
he might be staying put.

why would Butler call a player only meeting today if he doesn't plan on staying?

Jamiecballer
10-11-2018, 03:35 PM
he might be staying put.

why would Butler call a player only meeting today if he doesn't plan on staying?Ratchet up the pressure

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MygirlhatesCod
10-11-2018, 03:38 PM
Ratchet up the pressure

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not sure it does much more than throwing a tantrum does. and it was closed door. he might be accepting the fact that thibs will never let him go.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 03:45 PM
he might be staying put.

why would Butler call a player only meeting today if he doesn't plan on staying?

He recruited a team out with deep roster guys around him and played against the rest of starters and crushed them! He wanted to prove to the F.O that he is the best by far on the floor than anything else the Wolves have...

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nba/jimmy-butler-targeted-karl-towns-and-andrew-wiggins-and-left-the-minnesota-timberwolves-empty-after-boss-return-to-practice/news-story/ec8b6340c603104e2ae8c5aebccc521e

MygirlhatesCod
10-11-2018, 03:45 PM
hopefully he lights a fire under them with this. too much talent to be so mediocre.

buckalis
10-11-2018, 03:59 PM
hopefully he lights a fire under them with this. too much talent to be so mediocre.

No... actually he tensed the relations against KAT and Wiggins even more, in one case he was defending KAT and was shouting "He can't do sh1t against me" and after he defended him, KAT kicked the ball off the floor because of his anger...

He insists to get traded and tries to force it by advancing the tense even more than it is...

He only wanted to prove to the F.O. that they chose the wrong side in this "fight" and that they will miss him... I'm curious if he will play against the Bucks on this Suturday's preseason game at Minnesota... I wish he will...

AllBall
10-11-2018, 04:16 PM
1050456052087570433
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1050456052087570433

beasted86
10-11-2018, 04:30 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Your best troll ever Ö hands down :hi5:

Excuse me sir, for he is idiot to stealing my proposal for trade initially my post pages ago:


No, men the best time it is now to move from the Jimmy Butler disc traction.
Wolves should take offer best on the table:


Hawks receive: Dellavedova, Henson and 3x2nd picks from Bucks, Wolves & Kings

Kings receive: Dieng, Morris & Frazier and 2019 1st from Wolves

Wolves receive: Middleton, Bazemore & T.Maker and 2021 1st from Bucks

Bucks receive: Butler & Koufos

..... nobody else comes clothes ...simple!

IndyRealist
10-11-2018, 04:46 PM
1050456052087570433
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1050456052087570433

He wanted those guys traded so he could get more money. I'm not sure why anyone would have his back.

TheDish87
10-11-2018, 04:47 PM
in what world are the wolves trading Butler with a first? just no.

Sahibkzkz
10-11-2018, 04:49 PM
Dont Stop Me this is my day Hurrrrray winner :D
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Sahibkzkz
10-11-2018, 04:50 PM
Congratulation for winners
Now i am eating cake with bestie and celebrate winning streak
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Jamiecballer
10-11-2018, 05:14 PM
1050456052087570433
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1050456052087570433Knew it. This guy is unreal. Not only am I your master, I've got the power to turn these players too. Hes a genius and a total nightmare.

And like Ewing mentioned I think a mental illness

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Hawkeye15
10-11-2018, 05:15 PM
Knew it. This guy is unreal. Not only am I your master, I've got the power to turn these players too. Hes a genius and a total nightmare.

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he is so Russell Crowe in Gladiator

Rivera
10-11-2018, 05:21 PM
thibs is an evil genius! he knows all about the evil Jimmy Butler, and he knew its exactly what this wolves team needed especially Wiggins and KAT to get better! Thibs knew Butler would stay all along! Dude is an evil genius :laugh2:

mightybosstone
10-11-2018, 05:47 PM
Post No. 2,000!!!!

We did it guys!!!!!!!

:hi5::cheers::flag::cheer::win: