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IKnowHoops
09-11-2018, 12:44 PM
Who ya got?

Rivera
09-11-2018, 12:55 PM
tatum /brown. and I really didnt have to think about it. Tatum was super efficient, Brown is a great piece, both can play defense.

Ingram is to nice. Like seriously too nice. He can take over a game but doesnt have that killer instinct to do it consistently. You give Ingram Kuzma's mindset, Ingram could be a top 20 player in the league, seriously. I love Kuz but hes got ways to go as a defender and has to get a little more efficient. Should be better with Bron.

Tatum and Brown easy

nastynice
09-11-2018, 12:58 PM
Tatum Brown obvious.

Boston is legit filthy, I'm expecting then to be right there with the Rox this year, if not better built for playoffs

R. Johnson#3
09-11-2018, 01:04 PM
Tatum/Brown and it isnít even close.

WaDe03
09-11-2018, 01:06 PM
Both are good but itís easily Tatum and Brown and I think brown is starting to be underrated.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-11-2018, 04:42 PM
Tatum and Brown.

Scoots
09-11-2018, 04:46 PM
Tatum/Brown. They are better at pretty much every part of the game. It may not end that way, all 4 have a lot of room to grow.

JWorthy42
09-11-2018, 07:42 PM
Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jaylen Brown 2017-18 21 70 70 30.7 5.3 11.5 .465 1.7 4.4 .395 3.6 7.1 .507 .540 2.1 3.3 .644 0.9 4.0 4.9 1.6 1.0 0.4 1.8 2.6 14.5
2 Brandon Ingram 2017-18 20 59 59 33.5 6.1 12.9 .470 0.7 1.8 .390 5.4 11.1 .483 .497 3.3 4.8 .681 1.0 4.4 5.3 3.9 0.8 0.7 2.5 2.8 16.1
3 Kyle Kuzma 2017-18 22 77 37 31.2 6.1 13.5 .450 2.1 5.6 .366 4.0 7.9 .511 .527 1.9 2.7 .707 1.1 5.1 6.3 1.8 0.6 0.4 1.8 2.1 16.1
4 Jayson Tatum 2017-18 19 80 80 30.5 5.0 10.4 .475 1.3 3.0 .434 3.7 7.4 .492 .538 2.7 3.2 .826 0.6 4.4 5.0 1.6 1.0 0.7 1.4 2.1 13.9


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Generated 9/11/2018.

Looking at the per game stats they are very close, and it seems like you can argue both sides. However advanced stats provide a more in-depth view:




Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
1 Jaylen Brown 2017-18 21 70 2152 13.6 .562 .381 .290 3.4 14.0 8.8 8.5 1.6 1.0 12.0 21.4 1.2 3.2 4.5 .100 -0.6 0.4 -0.2 1.0
2 Brandon Ingram 2017-18 20 59 1975 13.8 .536 .138 .371 3.1 13.8 8.5 17.7 1.1 1.8 14.4 22.2 1.0 1.8 2.8 .068 -1.6 0.3 -1.3 0.4
3 Kyle Kuzma 2017-18 22 77 2401 14.2 .549 .418 .200 3.9 17.4 10.7 9.1 1.0 1.1 11.0 22.5 1.5 2.3 3.8 .077 -0.3 -1.0 -1.3 0.4
4 Jayson Tatum 2017-18 19 80 2438 15.3 .586 .290 .309 2.3 15.6 9.0 8.3 1.7 2.0 10.7 19.5 3.0 4.0 7.1 .139 -0.5 1.5 1.0 1.8


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Generated 9/11/2018.

As expected Tatum and Brown provide a more efficient duo, and defensively are better as a pair (due to Kuzma's lacking on that end of the floor). I think saying that the Boston duo is far better or that "its not even close" is a little far fetched. They are better overall, but not by much.

I think Ingram has the highest ceiling out of the 4, but I agree with the remark in regards to his attitude and mentality - not enough Mamba. Meanwhile, Tatum seems to have the needed mindset to become a dominant force in this league. Tatum still 19 and Ingram barely turned 21 recently, so yeah...lots of growing for those two. Scary.

Ishkabibble
09-11-2018, 09:11 PM
Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jaylen Brown 2017-18 21 70 70 30.7 5.3 11.5 .465 1.7 4.4 .395 3.6 7.1 .507 .540 2.1 3.3 .644 0.9 4.0 4.9 1.6 1.0 0.4 1.8 2.6 14.5
2 Brandon Ingram 2017-18 20 59 59 33.5 6.1 12.9 .470 0.7 1.8 .390 5.4 11.1 .483 .497 3.3 4.8 .681 1.0 4.4 5.3 3.9 0.8 0.7 2.5 2.8 16.1
3 Kyle Kuzma 2017-18 22 77 37 31.2 6.1 13.5 .450 2.1 5.6 .366 4.0 7.9 .511 .527 1.9 2.7 .707 1.1 5.1 6.3 1.8 0.6 0.4 1.8 2.1 16.1
4 Jayson Tatum 2017-18 19 80 80 30.5 5.0 10.4 .475 1.3 3.0 .434 3.7 7.4 .492 .538 2.7 3.2 .826 0.6 4.4 5.0 1.6 1.0 0.7 1.4 2.1 13.9


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Generated 9/11/2018.

Looking at the per game stats they are very close, and it seems like you can argue both sides. However advanced stats provide a more in-depth view:




Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
1 Jaylen Brown 2017-18 21 70 2152 13.6 .562 .381 .290 3.4 14.0 8.8 8.5 1.6 1.0 12.0 21.4 1.2 3.2 4.5 .100 -0.6 0.4 -0.2 1.0
2 Brandon Ingram 2017-18 20 59 1975 13.8 .536 .138 .371 3.1 13.8 8.5 17.7 1.1 1.8 14.4 22.2 1.0 1.8 2.8 .068 -1.6 0.3 -1.3 0.4
3 Kyle Kuzma 2017-18 22 77 2401 14.2 .549 .418 .200 3.9 17.4 10.7 9.1 1.0 1.1 11.0 22.5 1.5 2.3 3.8 .077 -0.3 -1.0 -1.3 0.4
4 Jayson Tatum 2017-18 19 80 2438 15.3 .586 .290 .309 2.3 15.6 9.0 8.3 1.7 2.0 10.7 19.5 3.0 4.0 7.1 .139 -0.5 1.5 1.0 1.8


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Generated 9/11/2018.

As expected Tatum and Brown provide a more efficient duo, and defensively are better as a pair (due to Kuzma's lacking on that end of the floor). I think saying that the Boston duo is far better or that "its not even close" is a little far fetched. They are better overall, but not by much.

I think Ingram has the highest ceiling out of the 4, but I agree with the remark in regards to his attitude and mentality - not enough Mamba. Meanwhile, Tatum seems to have the needed mindset to become a dominant force in this league. Tatum still 19 and Ingram barely turned 21 recently, so yeah...lots of growing for those two. Scary.

Tell ya this much, getting Kuzma @ 27 was THE steal of the draft last season. I'm sure Boston hopes they get even close to the same out of their 27th pick this season. I'll take Brown & Tatum comfortably; and I think Brown is the most underrated. He's likely the best defender of the four and last season was simply a complete 180 from his rookie year, in every way. One other thing is we've yet to see Ingram & Kuzma in the playoffs. You never know how that's gonna go first time around for young guys. Tatum & Brown were flat-out terrific in the 20 or so postseason games for Boston last year, around 18 PPG each.

Legitimate
09-11-2018, 09:44 PM
I think OG and siakim, the bench mob to have a better year :D

FlashBolt
09-11-2018, 10:04 PM
Kuzma is such a valuable piece, man. He is signed for at least three more years and will only be making $9-10 million in that span. He will be aged 25 in which he should be entering his prime. It fits right into the Lakers timeline because by then, LeBron probably opts out of his contract and Lakers decide to move on.

Honestly, I think I'll take Kuzma and Ingram. Tatum and Brown were huge beneficaries playing under Brad Stevens and you just have to wonder how much better Kuzma and Ingram would have been if Brad was their coach. Not to mention that Ingram likely has the higher potential. It's very close and they're all young and talented but I just think Kuzma and Ingram haven't had a chance to play in a system where they have a set role. There was a stretch when Lonzo was injured and Ingram averaged 19/5/5 on 55% shooting for 12 games.

Scoots
09-11-2018, 10:16 PM
It's easier to put up "better" numbers on a losing team, so if their stats were equal it would still be Tatum/Brown.

FlashBolt
09-11-2018, 10:22 PM
It's easier to put up "better" numbers on a losing team, so if their stats were equal it would still be Tatum/Brown.

Take Tatum/Brown out and Kuzma/Ingram out of their respective team and there is no debate as to which team is better. So your "losing" team argument only works if you provide some context as to why they are losing or winning. Also, Tatum and Brown had a lot of opportunities to put up better numbers as well since they took Hayward's minutes and shot attempts so let's not make it seem as if they didn't get as much or better opportunities than Kuzma and Ingram. We all saw what happened to Crowder when he left Boston so there's evidence to support that Brad Steven's system is beneficial to every player on the roster.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 12:22 AM
LAL young Core > Boston young core

And itís not even close.

Ingram, Kuzma, Ball, Hart is too much

Ishkabibble
09-12-2018, 12:29 AM
Take Tatum/Brown out and Kuzma/Ingram out of their respective team and there is no debate as to which team is better. So your "losing" team argument only works if you provide some context as to why they are losing or winning. Also, Tatum and Brown had a lot of opportunities to put up better numbers as well since they took Hayward's minutes and shot attempts so let's not make it seem as if they didn't get as much or better opportunities than Kuzma and Ingram. We all saw what happened to Crowder when he left Boston so there's evidence to support that Brad Steven's system is beneficial to every player on the roster.

Who was taking the opportunities away from Kuzma and Ingram last season, Luol Deng?

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 12:48 AM
Who was taking the opportunities away from Kuzma and Ingram last season, Luol Deng?

Sit on the bench, you donít know what youíre talking about

buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:43 AM
Who was taking the opportunities away from Kuzma and Ingram last season, Luol Deng?

I believe that instead of answering the question, one of the trolls will reply:

:speechless:"Sit on the bench, you donít know what youíre talking about":speechless:

dhopisthename
09-12-2018, 01:49 AM
Jayson Tatum had a 2.92 RPM last year and Jaylen Brown had a 1.39

Brandon Ingram had a -1.59 and Kuzma had a -1.53

hmm I wonder which combo is better. why not pick Lonzo btw?

More-Than-Most
09-12-2018, 02:09 AM
Ingram/Kuz... Kuz is capped like brown is but brown right now is the better player... Ingram is better than everyone on this list. I think Ingram takes much bigger strides where is Kuz/Brown are capped and tatum is more ready but wont jump as much right off the back as ingram will because of how seasoned he is. I wouldnt ever build around brown/Kuz... They will be nice pieces but nothing special... Lebron will help kuz a ton this year though but once he retires kuz will be capped. Ingram just has the higher ceiling over the other 3.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 03:12 AM
Tatum out of the lot, is undeniably in a class of his own...

Ingram is the best ball handler out of all, to the extend that he can play PG, but he lucks a lot in defense and also in his "without the ball" game if compared to Ingram...

Seed ranking last season for each team says it all...

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 03:14 AM
Tatum out of the lot, is undeniably in a class of his own...

Ingram is the best ball handler out of all, to the extend that he can play PG, but he lucks a lot in defense and also in his "without the ball" game if compared to Ingram...

Seed ranking last season for each team says it all...

Bro, just shut up. You honestly think Tatum was the reason why Celtics were in that seeding? Lmao.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 04:54 AM
Bro, just shut up. You honestly think Tatum was the reason why Celtics were in that seeding? Lmao.

No... but I do thing that Ingram, Kuzma and Ball, were the reason why the Lakers ranked on that seed! :D

majmarcus
09-12-2018, 05:31 AM
Ingram/Kuz... Kuz is capped like brown is but brown right now is the better player... Ingram is better than everyone on this list. I think Ingram takes much bigger strides where is Kuz/Brown are capped and tatum is more ready but wont jump as much right off the back as ingram will because of how seasoned he is. I wouldnt ever build around brown/Kuz... They will be nice pieces but nothing special... Lebron will help kuz a ton this year though but once he retires kuz will be capped. Ingram just has the higher ceiling over the other 3.How can say this without offending folk..

Ummm...

mTm...you are one of few people that's not all on Kuzma sack... thank you!!!! And Ingram is easily the Lakers 2nd best player. I don't understand however why his lack of mamba attitude is an issue when his work ethic is clearly a good one??!!?...I mean my gosh. If he took on the mamba mentality altogether and started jacking up shots, they'd still be beeotching!!!

Brandon Ingram doesn't need mamba mentality, he needs to keep don't what he's doing to help get the most out of THESE LAKERS. I enjoyed watching Kobe play just as much as the next fella. Two decades of Mamba was enough though. He produced and was mad consistent. But that ish done now. The ghost of him is already leaving ninjas shook due to the standard he set in and of itself.

The bar has long been set. Just not satisfied I guess. Some things really don't matter when the important things are apparent.

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WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:25 AM
LAL young Core > Boston young core

And itís not even close.

Ingram, Kuzma, Ball, Hart is too much

Stop it lol.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:27 AM
Stop it lol.

Stay tuned.


If you look in the Lakers forum, this question was asked and my answer was atm Brown/Tatum are ahead but this is a 10y question. Weíll know down the line and if you really add in the entire young core itís the Lakers. Only time will tell :nod:

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:27 AM
In terms of potential:

1. Tatum
2. Brown (his two way play and the dog in him puts him over anything Iíve seen from Ingram)
3. Ingram (donít mind if you have him at 2 but I just havenít seen it yet)
4. Kuzma

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:29 AM
In terms of potential:

1. Tatum
2. Brown (his two way play and the dog in him puts him over anything Iíve seen from Ingram)
3. Ingram (donít mind if you have him at 2 but I just havenít seen it yet)
4. Kuzma

You havenít watched enough, I expect you to watch more Lakers games this year with Bron on the team

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:30 AM
Stay tuned.


If you look in the Lakers forum, this question was asked and my answer was atm Brown/Tatum are ahead but this is a 10y question. Weíll know down the line and if you really add in the entire young core itís the Lakers. Only time will tell :nod:

Iím taking the Celtics young core easily.

Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Is better than

Ingram
Kuzma
Ball

The Celtics guys were putting up big numbers in the playoffs while it seemed like a constant struggle with the Lakers young guys.

Donít the Celtics have another high pick in this draft?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:31 AM
You havenít watched enough, I expect you to watch more Lakers games this year with Bron on the team

I defintely will watch more this year. Iíll watch Ingram 1 game and heíll look good, the next heíll look average at best. I know for sure Tatum has the highest potential of them all though.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:32 AM
Iím taking the Celtics young core easily.

Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Is better than

Ingram
Kuzma
Ball

The Celtics guys were putting up big numbers in the playoffs while it seemed like a constant struggle with the Lakers young guys.

Donít the Celtics have another high pick in this draft?

So completely pass on Hart? Yea you havenít watched enough but you will this season. Lakers easy make the playoffs in the East last year. They played tough against the West all year and barely lost some games, without a real leader. That wonít be a problem this year.


Here this was fun and just a glimpse of things to come https://youtu.be/SQDbduUxnfo

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:34 AM
I defintely will watch more this year. Iíll watch Ingram 1 game and heíll look good, the next heíll look average at best. I know for sure Tatum has the highest potential of them all though.

I like Tatum watched most of the playoff games and about 10 games or so during the season. This is extremely close and Tatum does have a high ceiling but easily so does the Lakers young core

TheDish87
09-12-2018, 09:39 AM
lol its Embiid/Simmons

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:39 AM
So completely pass on Hart? Yea you havenít watched enough but you will this season. Lakers easy make the playoffs in the East last year. They played tough against the West all year and barely lost some games, without a real leader. That wonít be a problem this year.


Here this was fun and just a glimpse of things to come https://youtu.be/SQDbduUxnfo

Hartís a good player but throw in the Celtics high pick this year and then thatís just another better player.

They donít make it in the East. You go down the entrie list though.

Tatum > Ingram
Brown > Kuzma
Rozier > Ball

All 3 Celtics players are better, Hart is good but he doesnít swing it back in their favor over those Celtics guys.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:47 AM
Lmao ok.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:48 AM
One good thing is both franchises young cores look extremely promising, very good for the league.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:51 AM
Lmao ok.

Itís just the facts my friend, I would say majority of the world would pick those Celtics guys.

It could always change and Iím hoping Ingram takes the 3rd year step the elite guys take and is an all star level guy but it remains to be seen.

Based on what weíve seen so far, Tatum and Brown are both better than Ingram. Based on what we saw in the playoffs, Rozier is debatable and Ingram is the Lakers best young guy.

Like I said it can change but Iím going off what weíve seen so far.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 09:52 AM
One good thing is both franchises young cores look extremely promising, very good for the league.

Yea definitely, wish you all wouldíve had your pick this last draft.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:58 AM
Itís just the facts my friend, I would say majority of the world would pick those Celtics guys.

It could always change and Iím hoping Ingram takes the 3rd year step the elite guys take and is an all star level guy but it remains to be seen.

Based on what weíve seen so far, Tatum and Brown are both better than Ingram. Based on what we saw in the playoffs, Rozier is debatable and Ingram is the Lakers best young guy.

Like I said it can change but Iím going off what weíve seen so far.

Yes Facts, which is why I gave them the slight edge but would choose the Lakers young core overall. To say Hart is a throw away makes your opinion invalid in my eyes and you clearly havenít watched enough Lakers basketball, coming from a guy who hasnít missed a game in decades. Trust me, we got something special brewing here. Anyways, you have a good day sir, only time will tell and answer this question.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:59 AM
Yea definitely, wish you all wouldíve had your pick this last draft.

Im ok with giving up the 10th pick, since it resulted in us getting multiple top 3 picks before.

Hawkeye15
09-12-2018, 10:07 AM
I want to say Tatum/Brown. That being said, I haven't watched Ingram enough, and his numbers are trending the right way. Kuzma I like. Both pairs will be given an all star level player to slow their progress (LeBron/Hayward), but I might actually tune into a few Lakers games this year.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:09 AM
Yes Facts, which is why I gave them the slight edge but would choose the Lakers young core overall. To say Hart is a throw away makes your opinion invalid in my eyes and you clearly havenít watched enough Lakers basketball, coming from a guy who hasnít missed a game in decades. Trust me, we got something special brewing here. Anyways, you have a good day sir, only time will tell and answer this question.

Is it a slight edge if 2 of the Celtics 3 young guys are better than your best young guy and the 3rd is debatable though?

Hart doesnít make up for that difference.

Just saw the Celtics have the Kings or Sixers pick in the draft, whichever is more favorable so that will obviously be the Kings. Itís crazy how they ended up with all these picks, they have the chance to get RJ, Zion, or Reddish or just trade the pick for a disgruntled star like AD. The rich get richer, if they keep that pick this isnít even a debate though.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 10:10 AM
I defintely will watch more this year. Iíll watch Ingram 1 game and heíll look good, the next heíll look average at best. I know for sure Tatum has the highest potential of them all though.

Ingram can't defend, Tatum is definitely better than Ingram and far better than Kuzma... Past March, Ingram & Kuzma were asked to defend ...Middleton in the Bucks game (LOL...) Guess what, he scored 28 on them both!

Watch them "defending" Middleton here, it's a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNVMNjq9dg

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:12 AM
I want to say Tatum/Brown. That being said, I haven't watched Ingram enough, and his numbers are trending the right way. Kuzma I like. Both pairs will be given an all star level player to slow their progress (LeBron/Hayward), but I might actually tune into a few Lakers games this year.

Do it! A lot of fun, especially the ball
Movement and the uptempo pace they play with. You will enjoy it :nod:

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:14 AM
Ingram can't defend, Tatum is definitely better than Ingram and far better than Kuzma... Past March, Ingram & Kuzma were asked to defend ...Middleton in the Bucks game (LOL...) Guess what, he scored 28 on them both!

Watch them "defending" Middleton here, it's a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNVMNjq9dg

Lakers young core > bucks
Celtics young core > bucks
76ers young core > bucks
Timberwolves young core > bucks

Giannis is a 8-11 player in the league but he has 0 help, 0 future and will be leaving the Bucks soon

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:16 AM
Is it a slight edge if 2 of the Celtics 3 young guys are better than your best young guy and the 3rd is debatable though?

Hart doesnít make up for that difference.

Just saw the Celtics have the Kings or Sixers pick in the draft, whichever is more favorable so that will obviously be the Kings. Itís crazy how they ended up with all these picks, they have the chance to get RJ, Zion, or Reddish or just trade the pick for a disgruntled star like AD. The rich get richer, if they keep that pick this isnít even a debate though.

Sorry taking Ingram. Watch him play brother, you will see this year. Youíre right this isnít debateable

Lakers young core
Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball :nod:

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:16 AM
Lakers young core > bucks
Celtics young core > bucks
76ers young core > bucks
Timberwolves young core > bucks

Giannis is a 8-11 player in the league but he has 0 help, 0 future and will be leaving the Bucks soon

:ohno:

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:17 AM
Is it a slight edge if 2 of the Celtics 3 young guys are better than your best young guy and the 3rd is debatable though?

Hart doesnít make up for that difference.

Just saw the Celtics have the Kings or Sixers pick in the draft, whichever is more favorable so that will obviously be the Kings. Itís crazy how they ended up with all these picks, they have the chance to get RJ, Zion, or Reddish or just trade the pick for a disgruntled star like AD. The rich get richer, if they keep that pick this isnít even a debate though.

Oh and Rich Paul will be ADís agent from reports, weíre already selling AD Lakers jerseys.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:17 AM
Sorry taking Ingram. Watch him play brother, you will see this year. Youíre right this isnít debateable

Lakers young core
Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball :nod:

I understands your bias my friend but you will see in due time just how wrong you are! I think Ingram will end up being better than Rozier, I donít see it for the other 2.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:19 AM
Oh and Rich Paul will be ADís agent from reports, weíre already selling AD Lakers jerseys.

I would actually love to see AD there and was hoping for it when I saw that the other day.

Defintely a lot of other players they could use that pick for.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:19 AM
I understands your bias my friend but you will see in due time just how wrong you are! I think Ingram will end up being better than Rozier, I donít see it for the other 2.

Lmao like I said, I voted for the Celtics in the Lakers forum but that being ďnowĒ thereís no way of predicting 10years from now and only time will tell.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:22 AM
I like that Ingram had better stats than both of Brown/Tatum last year in the regular season and itís ďnot even closeĒ yea sounds about right. Yup time will tell :nod:

I think all the young guys on both sides will be pretty damn good and itís nice to see the future of the NBA on a handful of teams.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 10:23 AM
I want to say Tatum/Brown. That being said, I haven't watched Ingram enough, and his numbers are trending the right way. Kuzma I like. Both pairs will be given an all star level player to slow their progress (LeBron/Hayward), but I might actually tune into a few Lakers games this year.

Ingram can't defend, Tatum is definitely better than Ingram and far better than Kuzma... Past March, Ingram & Kuzma were asked to defend ...Middleton in the Bucks game (LOL...) Guess what, he scored 28 on them both!

Watch them "defending" Middleton here, it's a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNVMNjq9dg

That said, even if you do watch more Lakers this season, you will see much less of Ingram or Kuzma with Bron dominating the mins and Beasley taking his share... Don't expect to see much of Ball either with Rondo starting....

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:29 AM
Yes, follow that guy^

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:29 AM
I like that Ingram had better stats than both of Brown/Tatum last year in the regular season and itís ďnot even closeĒ yea sounds about right. Yup time will tell :nod:

I think all the young guys on both sides will be pretty damn good and itís nice to see the future of the NBA on a handful of teams.

Tatum and brown are better defenders, more efficient scorers, and better shooters.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:29 AM
Did all 46 Bucks fans like that video? Or did you use like 2/4 of them with your dupes :laugh2:

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:31 AM
Ingram can't defend, Tatum is definitely better than Ingram and far better than Kuzma... Past March, Ingram & Kuzma were asked to defend ...Middleton in the Bucks game (LOL...) Guess what, he scored 28 on them both!

Watch them "defending" Middleton here, it's a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNVMNjq9dg

That said, even if you do watch more Lakers this season, you will see much less of Ingram or Kuzma with Bron dominating the mins and Beasley taking his share... Don't expect to see much of Ball either with Rondo starting....

Those guys will still get their minutes, their growth this year is huge for the Lakers for the following year where they add a star or 2 next to LeBron and could be serious contenders then.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:31 AM
Tatum and brown are better defenders, more efficient scorers, and better shooters.

Ok :)

Both Ingram/Kuzma will have something to say about that both of these kids are working their tails off and both scored more than the Tics duo during last years regular season.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 10:31 AM
I like that Ingram had better stats than both of Brown/Tatum last year in the regular season and itís ďnot even closeĒ yea sounds about right. Yup time will tell :nod:

I think all the young guys on both sides will be pretty damn good and itís nice to see the future of the NBA on a handful of teams.

Ingram had better stats than TATUM? What kind of troll are you?

You act like if one can't google it so that he can see that Tatum destroyed Ingram's numbers... even if he was in his rookie year! :D:D:D:D:D:D

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:32 AM
Tatum and brown are better defenders, more efficient scorers, and better shooters.

Ok :)

Both Ingram/Kuzma will have something to say about that both of these kids are working their tails off (Kuzma much bigger & Ingram in the gym everyday) and both scored more than the Tics duo during last years regular season. Itís not as big of a separation as you think brother.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:35 AM
Ingram had better stats than TATUM? What kind of troll are you?

You act like if one can't google it so that he can see that Tatum destroyed Ingram's numbers... even if he was in his rookie year! :D:D:D:D:D:D

Theyíre both the same age(ish) 20/21

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tatumja01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brownja02.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ingrabr01.html

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:40 AM
Ok :)

Both Ingram/Kuzma will have something to say about that both of these kids are working their tails off (Kuzma much bigger & Ingram in the gym everyday) and both scored more than the Tics duo during last years regular season. Itís not as big of a separation as you think brother.

Theyíre all working hard this summer Iím sure. The Lakers duo took 6 more shots per game with less efficiency and higher usage than the Celtics duo.

Kuzma is 2 years older than Brown, 4 years older than Tatum.

Ingram is the same age as Brown, 2 years older than Tatum.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:45 AM
Just saw Tatum is 20 so Kuzma is 3 years older and Ingram is 1. Thatís what I get for taking your word for his age earlier! ;)

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:45 AM
Ingram is 7mo older than Tatum? And only shot 2more fga and had 2+more points.... What are we even arguing right now. Thereís really no win in this battle, you can argue either way here because both young cores are great. Like I said time will tell but if you add in Hart/ZO(complete young core) then it leans Lakers for me. Only time will tell :) I canít wait for this season to start.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:47 AM
Just saw Tatum is 20 so Kuzma is 3 years older and Ingram is 1. Thatís what I get for taking your word for his age earlier! ;)


Ingram was born on September 2 1997
Tatum was born on March 3 1998


That doesnít equal 1year

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:49 AM
Ingram was born on September 2 1997
Tatum was born on March 3 1998


That doesnít equal 1year

1 is 20 the other is 21, no need to nitpick it. Tatum is younger and better and thatís just after his rookie year while not being he focal point that Ingram was with the Lakers.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:50 AM
Ingram is 7mo older than Tatum? And only shot 2more fga and had 2+more points.... What are we even arguing right now. Thereís really no win in this battle, you can argue either way here because both young cores are great. Like I said time will tell but if you add in Hart/ZO(complete young core) then it leans Lakers for me. Only time will tell :) I canít wait for this season to start.

I like your confidence

buckalis
09-12-2018, 10:51 AM
Theyíre both the same age(ish) 20/21

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tatumja01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brownja02.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ingrabr01.html

And Giannis is 22... So... seasons on the floor don't matter ...eeeeh?

What these number say? Ingram 33% 3pts, Tatum 44%... shall I continue on the rest of stats? ....No, I'll post them one by one so that it will be more painful for you... then I'll continue by comparing Ingram's rookie year with Tatum... again one by one... so that it will be a real torture for you!

I hate trolls and love torturing them!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:52 AM
Ingram is 7mo older than Tatum? And only shot 2more fga and had 2+more points.... What are we even arguing right now. Thereís really no win in this battle, you can argue either way here because both young cores are great. Like I said time will tell but if you add in Hart/ZO(complete young core) then it leans Lakers for me. Only time will tell :) I canít wait for this season to start.

2.5 more shots and 2 more free throws due to more opportunities but did it with less efficiency.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:53 AM
1 is 20 the other is 21, no need to nitpick it. Tatum is younger and better and thatís just after his rookie year while not being he focal point that Ingram was with the Lakers.

Lmao what? :laugh2:

Itís September 12, Ingram just turned 21 on Sept 2.... Tatum will be March 3, exactly 6mo

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:53 AM
And Giannis is 22... So... seasons on the floor don't matter ...eeeeh?

What these number say? Ingram 33% 3pts, Tatum 44%... shall I continue on the rest of stats? ....No, I'll post them one by one so that it will be more painful for you... then I'll continue by comparing Ingram's rookie year with Tatum... again one by one... so that it will be a real torture for you!

I hate trolls and love torturing them!

We would love you to continue and back your claims of this torture of a debate but I just want you to remember the good lord is watching.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 10:54 AM
And Giannis is 22... So... seasons on the floor don't matter ...eeeeh?

What these number say? Ingram 33% 3pts, Tatum 44%... shall I continue on the rest of stats? ....No, I'll post them one by one so that it will be more painful for you... then I'll continue by comparing Ingram's rookie year with Tatum... again one by one... so that it will be a real torture for you!

I hate trolls and love torturing them!
Lmao at least you try

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 10:55 AM
Lmao what? :laugh2:

Tatum is younger and better after only his rookie year and wasnít used as much on the Celtics as the Lakers used Ingram. Give Tatum those shots and increase his usage and heís at worst matching Ingramís scoring output.

Scoots
09-12-2018, 10:58 AM
The numbers of all 4 will likely go down this year as their teams try to integrate new ball dominant players with the youngsters.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 11:00 AM
We would love you to continue and back your claims of this torture of a debate but I just want you to remember the good lord is watching.

Lord loves those who love torturing trolls and he is watching and enjoying....

Ingram 14.3pts per 36mins, Tatum 16.4....

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:00 AM
The numbers of all 4 will likely go down this year as their teams try to integrate new ball dominant players with the youngsters.

I agree with this, great post brother!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:01 AM
Lord loves those who love torturing trolls and he is watching and enjoying....

Ingram 14.3pts per 36mins, Tatum 16.4....

:ohno:

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:01 AM
Tatum is younger and better after only his rookie year and wasnít used as much on the Celtics as the Lakers used Ingram. Give Tatum those shots and increase his usage and heís at worst matching Ingramís scoring output.

**yawn** Again, both of these guys are awesome, and again I voted Boston (now) and again only comparing themDuo v Duo, if you add in Lonzoís Near triple double glue game and Josh Hart a bulldog of a defender than it leans Lakers.


Both franchises are in great shape and both have amazing futures. But youíre over here ******** on Ingram when he shot 47% and 39%3pt

As a 20year old in his second NBA season, making a huge jump from his rookie season(19) 9ppg, 40% 29%

Guess weíll see this season what happens, maybe youíre right and he sucks.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:02 AM
:ohno:

So weíre comparing rookie seasons or last year moving into this?

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:03 AM
Lord loves those who love torturing trolls and he is watching and enjoying....

Ingram 14.3pts per 36mins, Tatum 16.4....

Only if you didnít vote for Trump and you did so....

buckalis
09-12-2018, 11:03 AM
Lmao at least you try

Tatum 54% EFG (on his rookie season), Ingram 47% (this season)... next please.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:04 AM
Wade youíre right Ingram is horrible and will only be a average player compared to Rozier. Iím just Bis because I watch every single Lakers game :)

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:04 AM
Just because a player isnít better than Tatum and Brown doesnít mean they suck and I never said Ingram sucked. Those guys are just more complete players. More efficient offensive players and better defenders. I want Ingram to be great in the future next to LeBron and another star or 2 so theyíre legit contenders so donít think Iím wanting him to suck or anything lol.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:05 AM
So weíre comparing rookie seasons or last year moving into this?

Most recent season

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:06 AM
Tatum 53.8% EFG (on his rookie season), Ingram 49.7% (this season)... next please.

Youíre right, they both shoot 50% one player grabs more rebounds and is more of a playmaker. Tatum
Is superior to BI.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:07 AM
Wade youíre right Ingram is horrible and will only be a average player compared to Rozier. Iím just Bis because I watch every single Lakers game :)

I said based on the playoffs you could debate Rozier over Ingram right now lol, I have no doubt Ingram will be the better player for their careers. Although it could get interesting if Rozier snags a starting job somewhere.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:07 AM
Just because a player isnít better than Tatum and Brown doesnít mean they suck and I never said Ingram sucked. Those guys are just more complete players. More efficient offensive players and better defenders. I want Ingram to be great in the future next to LeBron and another star or 2 so theyíre legit contenders so donít think Iím wanting him to suck or anything lol.

Ok :) I believe you. Youíve pre projected Ingramís career to be average right?

buckalis
09-12-2018, 11:07 AM
Only if you didnít vote for Trump and you did so....

I don't vote for Trump... just like to torture Trolls...

Ingram 5.3 rebs per 36min, Tatum 6....

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:08 AM
I said based on the playoffs you could debate Rozier over Ingram right now lol, I have no doubt Ingram will be the better player for their careers. Although it could get interesting if Rozier snags a starting job somewhere.

Hart will be better than Rozier

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:10 AM
I don't vote for Trump... just like to torture Trolls...

Ingram 5.7 rebs per 36min, Tatum 5.2....

You know the numbers are right there right? Lmao you canít change them slightly in your favor.


And sure you didnít bud, Vote in November!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:10 AM
Youíre right, they both shoot 50% one player grabs more rebounds and is more of a playmaker. Tatum
Is superior to BI.

Tatum a better, more efficient scorer, better defender, and rebounds at a slightly higher rate. Ingram the better playmaker so far.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:11 AM
Tatum a better, more efficient scorer, better defender, and rebounds at a slightly higher rate. Ingram the better playmaker so far.

Lmao no, numbers show Ingram is just as good of a rebounder. Itís all good BI is garbage, weíll see what happens this year as I think BI will be elevate his game with 3 of the better playmakers in NBA around him

buckalis
09-12-2018, 11:12 AM
So weíre comparing rookie seasons or last year moving into this?

it's all this season as you can check... Ingram 0.7 blocks per 36mins, Tatum 0.9...

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:12 AM
Ok :) I believe you. Youíve pre projected Ingramís career to be average right?

No I think he has all star potential, he has the tools to be a top 10 guy but I havenít seen anything that tell me he will get there yet.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:13 AM
You know the numbers are right there right? Lmao you canít change them slightly in your favor.


And sure you didnít bud, Vote in November!

Both of your per 36 numbers are off though lol. Ingram 5.7 and Tatum 5.9

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:14 AM
No I think he has all star potential, he has the tools to be a top 10 guy but I havenít seen anything that tell me he will get there yet.

But you already admitted you watched little to no Lakers games....

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:14 AM
Both of your per 36 numbers are off though lol. Ingram 5.7 and Tatum 5.9

Yea pretty damn even, talk about nitpicking and weíre using Per 36 too...

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:15 AM
Hart will be better than Rozier

You canít back this with anything

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:17 AM
Yea pretty damn even, talk about nitpicking and weíre using Per 36 too...

So slightly higher rate as I said lol. You all brought out the per 36 not me but for things like rebounding it does have a place.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:19 AM
But you already admitted you watched little to no Lakers games....

Iíve watched some Lakers games and I watch the highlights every night.

No need to get in your feelings over Ingram not being better than a guy that people are already saying is on a fast track to the HOF and to being a great scorer.

Rivera
09-12-2018, 11:20 AM
i will say, Bron might be the best thing to happen to Ingram. Ingram is just toooo damn nice. Let Lebron kick it to Ingram for an open 3 and let Ingram pass it up. Watch Bron get in that *** to put urgency behind Ingram. Maybe Bron can light a fire under Ingram and get him to score more especially when he passes up opportunities he should take

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:20 AM
Lmao no, numbers show Ingram is just as good of a rebounder. Itís all good BI is garbage, weíll see what happens this year as I think BI will be elevate his game with 3 of the better playmakers in NBA around him

Hopefully he does improve next to them, heís going to be seeing the ball in his hands a lot less though.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:22 AM
i will say, Bron might be the best thing to happen to Ingram. Ingram is just toooo damn nice. Let Lebron kick it to Ingram for an open 3 and let Ingram pass it up. Watch Bron get in that *** to put urgency behind Ingram. Maybe Bron can light a fire under Ingram and get him to score more especially when he passes up opportunities he should take

LeBron could defintely help and Iím hoping he does but he could also hurt Ingram as well. I hope Ingram has been working on his spot up shooting because his usage is about to take a huge dip.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:22 AM
You canít back this with anything

Can we back anything weíre talking about right now, weíre just spewing potential talk. All these players are excellent and all seem to project very nice. As a Avid Super Lakers fan, Iím on it everyday, following these guys everyday lives like a groupie. I love what Iím seeing and the work environment and bar LeBron James has set, Kuzma is in the gym everyday at 5-6am lifting weights. Ingram everyday at 8am ball handling and shooting, Lonzo Bigger,better looking tweaked shot, Hart winning SL MVP. Itís all gravy, I look forward to this season more than the last 8years. Itís an exciting time to be a Lakers fan and I know football is on but cannot wait for Basketball season to start.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:25 AM
Can we back anything weíre talking about right now, weíre just spewing potential talk. All these players are excellent and all seem to project very nice. As a Avid Super Lakers fan, Iím on it everyday, following these guys everyday lives like a groupie. I love what Iím seeing and the work environment and bar LeBron James has set, Kuzma is in the gym everyday at 5-6am lifting weights. Ingram everyday at 8am ball handling and shooting, Lonzo Bigger,better looking tweaked shot, Hart winning SL MVP. Itís all gravy, I look forward to this season more than the last 8years. Itís an exciting time to be a Lakers fan and I know football is on but cannot wait for Basketball season to start.

We can back what weíve currently seen.

Best thing about football to me is that it means basketball is about to start lol!

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:25 AM
LeBron could defintely help and Iím hoping he does but he could also hurt Ingram as well. I hope Ingram has been working on his spot up shooting because his usage is about to take a huge dip.

Do you think Lebron purposeful made a calculated decision to surround himself with two of the better playmakers in the game? Just so he can be Ball dominant? Also, Lonzo barely needs the ball in his hands to create plays, he will be excellent on the floor with Lebron and will set him up quite often.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:27 AM
We can back what weíve currently seen.

Best thing about football to me is that it means basketball is about to start lol!

Bro, I love Football and will still watch every basketball game and Raiders game but man, I am so excited for basketball this season

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:33 AM
Do you think Lebron purposeful made a calculated decision to surround himself with two of the better playmakers in the game? Just so he can be Ball dominant? Also, Lonzo barely needs the ball in his hands to create plays, he will be excellent on the floor with Lebron and will set him up quite often.

Heís been a ball dominant player his whole career, same with Rondo. Theyíre going to have he ball in their hands a lot which is going to cause Ingram Kuzma and Balls usage to drop just as adding Kyrie and Hayward will cause Tatum and Browns usage to drop.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:34 AM
Bro, I love Football and will still watch every basketball game and Raiders game but man, I am so excited for basketball this season

I would be too, you added the 2nd best player ever. What do you think your depth chart will look like?

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:36 AM
Heís been a ball dominant player his whole career, same with Rondo. Theyíre going to have he ball in their hands a lot which is going to cause Ingram Kuzma and Balls usage to drop just as adding Kyrie and Hayward will cause Tatum and Browns usage to drop.

Ok, I think we continue to play the way we did last year, lots of ball movement, pushing the tempo/pace. Lebron really likes Lonzo and ďyesĒ the Rondo signing, I think heís setting himself up for the final phase of his career and will
play off the ball much more than he ever has (only to take it over in the playoffs)

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 11:39 AM
I would be too, you added the 2nd best player ever. What do you think your depth chart will look like?

All reports, every starting position open, except LBJ of course. First scrimmage is going to be all the old guys vs the young guys (which I wish they will sell tickets for... but I think it plays out like

Ball/Rondo
KCP/Hart/Stephenson
Ingram/Kuzma/Stephenson/Svi
Lebron/Kuzma/Beasley
Mcgee/Beasley/Wagner/Zubac

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 11:47 AM
All reports, every starting position open, except LBJ of course. First scrimmage is going to be all the old guys vs the young guys (which I wish they will sell tickets for... but I think it plays out like

Ball/Rondo
KCP/Hart/Stephenson
Ingram/Kuzma/Stephenson/Svi
Lebron/Kuzma/Beasley
Mcgee/Beasley/Wagner/Zubac

I think thatís what itíll be too but I think Stephenson and Beasley will find themselves some minutes.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 11:51 AM
Lmao no, numbers show Ingram is just as good of a rebounder. Itís all good BI is garbage, weíll see what happens this year as I think BI will be elevate his game with 3 of the better playmakers in NBA around him

Yeah... Ingram had 5.7 rebs per 36mins, Tatum only 5% per cent better at 6... closest there is...

buckalis
09-12-2018, 11:57 AM
Bro, I love Football and will still watch every basketball game and Raiders game but man, I am so excited for basketball this season

Actually there is this one category that Ingram is ahead of Tatum... he turns over the ball 2.7 times per 36mins, while Tatum only manages a poor 1.7... :D

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 12:02 PM
I think thatís what itíll be too but I think Stephenson and Beasley will find themselves some minutes.

Iím expecting Lonzoís minutes to be around 28-30 at the most as weíll keep him fresh this year as well as Ingramís minutes. Itís going to be fun watching these guys play basketball this year. I canít wait for one of Lonzoís rebounds, turn around and throw a perfect full court alley-oop pass to Lebron James.


I love the fire and intensity Lebron has already brought to this young core. Heís setting the bar and everyone better get with it, especially the kids but I can see a package being traded for Anthony Davis.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 12:12 PM
Iím expecting Lonzoís minutes to be around 28-30 at the most as weíll keep him fresh this year as well as Ingramís minutes. Itís going to be fun watching these guys play basketball this year. I canít wait for one of Lonzoís rebounds, turn around and throw a perfect full court alley-oop pass to Lebron James.


I love the fire and intensity Lebron has already brought to this young core. Heís setting the bar and everyone better get with it, especially the kids but I can see a package being traded for Anthony Davis.

When is AD a FA?

buckalis
09-12-2018, 12:14 PM
Heís been a ball dominant player his whole career, same with Rondo. Theyíre going to have he ball in their hands a lot which is going to cause Ingram Kuzma and Balls usage to drop just as adding Kyrie and Hayward will cause Tatum and Browns usage to drop.

Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything...

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 12:14 PM
Ingram can't defend, Tatum is definitely better than Ingram and far better than Kuzma... Past March, Ingram & Kuzma were asked to defend ...Middleton in the Bucks game (LOL...) Guess what, he scored 28 on them both!

Watch them "defending" Middleton here, it's a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNVMNjq9dg

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂...oh Gia

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 12:17 PM
Ingram can't defend, Tatum is definitely better than Ingram and far better than Kuzma... Past March, Ingram & Kuzma were asked to defend ...Middleton in the Bucks game (LOL...) Guess what, he scored 28 on them both!

Watch them "defending" Middleton here, it's a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNVMNjq9dg

That said, even if you do watch more Lakers this season, you will see much less of Ingram or Kuzma with Bron dominating the mins and Beasley taking his share... Don't expect to see much of Ball either with Rondo starting....

😂😂😂😂😂...uh oh, heís on repeat

buckalis
09-12-2018, 12:23 PM
😂😂😂😂😂...uh oh, heís on repeat

I'm now...

" Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything..."

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 12:27 PM
Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything...

Beasley and Stephenson arenít getting 45. I saw something saying LeBron would get 36 but Iíd say he gets a little more but Rondo isnít getting 30+ so they wonít combine for 77.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 12:27 PM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂...oh Gia

Iím glad sheís back lol

buckalis
09-12-2018, 12:36 PM
Beasley and Stephenson arenít getting 45. I saw something saying LeBron would get 36 but Iíd say he gets a little more but Rondo isnít getting 30+ so they wonít combine for 77.

OK... So they may get 40... what's the difference for the rest? Rondo will be starting (because Lebron asked specifically for him) and gets 36... Lebron gets whatever he wants...

EDIT: Excuse me for making a min or two mistakes for making the numbers easier for the trolls (you included) to be able and add... Praise the Lord!

Heediot
09-12-2018, 12:36 PM
How the funk this got to 9 pages. Tatum alobe is better then Kuzma + Ingram and they can also have Jaylen lolol. I kid, but Tatum's potential is all nba first team, can;t say the same about the rest.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 12:41 PM
How the funk this got to 9 pages. Tatum alobe is better then Kuzma + Ingram and they can also have Jaylen lolol. I kid, but Tatum's potential is all nba first team, can;t say the same about the rest.

Trying to explain this to mindless trolls it gets to 9 pages! ...and it will continue! ...they don't dig...

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 12:45 PM
Tatum 54% EFG (on his rookie season), Ingram 47% (this season)... next please.

This isnít about rookie seasons. Itís about which duo will be better during the 18-19 season...this upcoming season

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 12:46 PM
OK... So they may get 40... what's the difference for the rest? Rondo will be starting (because Lebron asked specifically for him) and gets 36... Lebron gets whatever he wants...

EDIT: Excuse me for making a min or two mistakes for making the numbers easier for the trolls (you included) to be able and add... Praise the Lord!

How am I trolling, Giannis94?

Your minutes are way off. Rondo isnít playing more than 26 minutes and Beasley and Stephenson arenít combining for more than 20.

I hope you donít get banned before the season starts so we can talk about this more then. Iíll pray for it, god bless your soul and may he lift your spirits.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 12:46 PM
Trying to explain this to mindless trolls it gets to 9 pages! ...and it will continue! ...they don't dig...

Your answer of Tatum and Brown is right but you havenít explained anything to anyone.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 12:53 PM
How am I trolling, Giannis94?

Your minutes are way off. Rondo isnít playing more than 26 minutes and Beasley and Stephenson arenít combining for more than 20.

I hope you donít get banned before the season starts so we can talk about this more then. Iíll pray for it, god bless your soul and may he lift your spirits.

You prove yourself a troll... just called me "Giannis 94" and "she" before that.... Go pray for lord to forgive you insulting people you don't know...

I'm not gonna report you and have you banned troll... I like playing yo-yo with trolls brains... it's so easy for me... praise the lord to forgive you for being a troll.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:01 PM
You prove yourself a troll... just called me "Giannis 94" and "she" before that.... Go pray for lord to forgive you insulting people you don't know...

I'm not gonna report you and have you banned troll... I like playing yo-yo with trolls brains... it's so easy for me... praise the lord to forgive you for being a troll.

Giannis94 is a girl who was banned and you post just like her and are a bucks fan but a Giannis fan first just like her.

God bless this kid and pray that he can look in the mirror and see he is the biggest troll in this thread and I pray that he can get through this

buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:12 PM
Giannis94 is a girl who was banned and you post just like her and are a bucks fan but a Giannis fan first just like her.

Why was she banned if she posted "just like me"? Giannis follows (and challenges) Lebron himself in NBA voting, he has more fans following him worldwide than any other player in the NBA... don't you know that? Pray to the lord to forgive you for not knowing that...


God bless this kid and pray that he can look in the mirror and see he is the biggest troll in this thread and I pray that he can get through this

I'm far from being a "kid" troll... Now, pray to the lord as to forgive you troll for characterizing people you don't know... you won't get that from me... I never characterize an obvious troll (or any other)...

EDIT: I hope calling the mindless... "mindless" does not count as "characterizing", since a (proven) mindless, has no ...mind as to complain!

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 01:19 PM
You prove yourself a troll... just called me "Giannis 94" and "she" before that.... Go pray for lord to forgive you insulting people you don't know...

I'm not gonna report you and have you banned troll... I like playing yo-yo with trolls brains... it's so easy for me... praise the lord to forgive you for being a troll.

How you gonna call someone a troll, when you put your trolling on auto repeat, repeating the same sentence 4 and 5 times in different posts..the move of the most hard core troll, and the most annoying and least creative troll technique available?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:23 PM
How you gonna call someone a troll, when you put your trolling on auto repeat, repeating the same sentence 4 and 5 times in different posts..the move of the most hard core troll, and the most annoying and least creative troll technique available?

Great post IKH, all we can do for him/her at this point is pray!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:24 PM
Why was she banned if she posted "just like me"? Giannis follows (and challenges) Lebron himself in NBA voting, he has more fans following him worldwide than any other player in the NBA... don't you know that? Pray to the lord to forgive you for not knowing that...



I'm far from being a "kid" troll... Now, pray to the lord as to forgive you troll for characterizing people you don't know... you won't get that from me... I never characterize an obvious troll (or any other)...

EDIT: I hope calling the mindless... "mindless" does not count as "characterizing", since a (proven) mindless, has no ...mind as to complain!

God bless your soul child!

buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:27 PM
How you gonna call someone a troll, when you put your trolling on auto repeat, repeating the same sentence 4 and 5 times in different posts..the move of the most hard core troll, and the most annoying and least creative troll technique available?

Ultimate trolling is avoiding to answer on subject and then trying to back off as to "bury" the comment you was supposed to reply on... (because you obviously find yourself unable to reply)... so I'll repeat and ask you to reply on subject:

"Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything..."

buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:28 PM
God bless your soul child!

God bless your soul child!

jaydubb
09-12-2018, 01:29 PM
Giannis94 is a girl who was banned and you post just like her and are a bucks fan but a Giannis fan first just like her.

God bless this kid and pray that he can look in the mirror and see he is the biggest troll in this thread and I pray that he can get through thisThis buckalis guy has been trolling the laker forum all offseason. Idk why he's still allowed to post. Apparently it's 100% acceptable to troll other posters on PSD.

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buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:34 PM
This buckalis guy has been trolling the laker forum all offseason. Idk why he's still allowed to post. Apparently it's 100% acceptable to troll other posters on PSD.

where is the trolling in this?

"Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything..."

I guess you call "trolling" anything that annoys you and are unable to reply on... right?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:40 PM
where is the trolling in this?

"Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything..."

I guess you call "trolling" anything that annoys you and are unable to reply on... right?

I replied and shut this troll take down because your minutes are far off.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:41 PM
This buckalis guy has been trolling the laker forum all offseason. Idk why he's still allowed to post. Apparently it's 100% acceptable to troll other posters on PSD.

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Could be a former banned troll who tried to hide their identity by posing as a Giannis94 dupe account, very smart of them!

jaydubb
09-12-2018, 01:41 PM
where is the trolling in this?

"Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything..."

I guess you call "trolling" anything that annoys you and are unable to reply on... right?I don't respond to trolls like you. Not worth my time. This is the last you'll hear from me. Adios

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jaydubb
09-12-2018, 01:43 PM
Could be a former banned troll who tried to hide their identity by posing as a Giannis94 dupe account, very smart of them!Could be. Us laker fans speculated that it is giannis94, but you could be right, it could also be someone trying to make it look like giannis94

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MygirlhatesCod
09-12-2018, 01:44 PM
the answer is tatum and brown. a more interesting comparison would be tatum/brown or simmons/embiid.

WhiteShadow42
09-12-2018, 01:45 PM
Could be a former banned troll who tried to hide their identity by posing as a Giannis94 dupe account, very smart of them!


It's Giannis. Obviously it's ok for some to troll on NBA forum and not others. We all know what forum is free game to everyone. Might have to start cleaning things up.

Leftcoast_yg
09-12-2018, 01:47 PM
Sorry taking Ingram. Watch him play brother, you will see this year. Youíre right this isnít debateable

Lakers young core
Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball :nod:

Kuzma made Giannis his beach when he moved him out of the way for a euro step.😆

buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:47 PM
I replied and shut this troll take down because your minutes are far off.

Ohhh you did didn't you... you said (trying to troll) that Beasley and Stephenson won't take more than 20 mins together, although Bron asked from Magic for them... Ok... even if that bold and stupid statement stands, there are then 95mins to be shared between all Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and KCP.... All until Feb. 2019... What is the (big) difference?

Pray to the Lord as to forgive you for suggesting "big changes" that make... no difference troll!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:50 PM
the answer is tatum and brown. a more interesting comparison would be tatum/brown or simmons/embiid.

Good idea, feel free to start us a thread! All activity is encouraged!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:51 PM
It's Giannis. Obviously it's ok for some to troll on NBA forum and not others. We all know what forum is free game to everyone. Might have to start cleaning things up.

Maybe so, at least their being active though. A lot of the time their trolling sparks discussion between the non-trolls and brings good activity to the board.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 01:54 PM
Kuzma made Giannis his beach when he moved him out of the way for a euro step.😆

You are confused... this was Brogdon on (much bigger) Kuzma... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjLDYTMXYjs

EDIT: I guess that's what one calls "making Kuzma his *****"... ain't it?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 01:54 PM
Ohhh you did didn't you... you said (trying to troll) that Beasley and Stephenson won't take more than 20 mins together, although Bron asked from Magic for them... Ok... even if that bold and stupid statement stands, there are then 95mins to be shared between all Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and KCP.... All until Feb. 2019... What is the (big) difference?

Pray to the Lord as to forgive you for suggesting "big changes" that make... no difference troll!

Whatís happening in Feb? I guess you think theyíre making a big trade?

Ball/Rondo
KCP/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson or Beasley
LeBron/Kuzma
Javale

Thatís their depth chart. None of those starters except maybe Javale are playing less than 30 MPG.

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 02:00 PM
Ultimate trolling is avoiding to answer on subject and then trying to back off as to "bury" the comment you was supposed to reply on... (because you obviously find yourself unable to reply)... so I'll repeat and ask you to reply on subject:

"Trolls usually can't count... There are only 240mins of playing time to be shared on an NBA game, the "bigs" will inevitably get 48 mins with 192mins left, Lebron and Rondo will get another 77mins leaving 115mins for all the rest... Stephenson and Beasley another 45mins, leaving 70mins for all Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Ball & KCP... The luckiest (probably Ingram), will see some 20mins until Feb...

By then (Feb 19), the Lakers roster will look much different with more coming as to help Lebron for the playoffs... By next season, who ever has been remaining (after the trades) within the roster from the "young talents that are the Lakers future" , will see a little more on the floor than ...Deng did!

I guess Clarkson, Nance and Randle didn't teach mindless trolls anything..."

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I think what you described is a combination of being wrong, and unable to admit it.

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 02:03 PM
Could be a former banned troll who tried to hide their identity by posing as a Giannis94 dupe account, very smart of them!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂... This kind of stuff is good for PSD however, especially during the offseason. Mods prob ratchet it up a few notches once the season starts. They wonít let Gia dupe keep doing his thing with 10 identical posts in the same thread lmao

Ishkabibble
09-12-2018, 02:04 PM
So completely pass on Hart? Yea you havenít watched enough but you will this season. Lakers easy make the playoffs in the East last year. They played tough against the West all year and barely lost some games, without a real leader. That wonít be a problem this year.


Here this was fun and just a glimpse of things to come https://youtu.be/SQDbduUxnfo

Yeah well..um..last I checked the Lakers don't play in the East.
Another exercise in pointlessness. Got anything else?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:09 PM
You are confused... this was Brogdon on (much bigger) Kuzma... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjLDYTMXYjs

EDIT: I guess that's what one calls "making Kuzma his *****"... ain't it?

Youíre confused friend.

My favorite Giannis highlight:


https://youtu.be/5WWlUn5ZjaQ

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 02:20 PM
the answer is tatum and brown. a more interesting comparison would be tatum/brown or simmons/embiid.

No😂😂😂

buckalis
09-12-2018, 02:26 PM
Whatís happening in Feb? I guess you think theyíre making a big trade?

No... they won't be making a trade... As with the CAVs, Lebron will see what is missed as to help him out on the playoffs and will demand some trades to happen... which they will happen....



Ball/Rondo
KCP/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson or Beasley
LeBron/Kuzma
Javale

Thatís their depth chart. None of those starters except maybe Javale are playing less than 30 MPG.

You don't seem to know much on basketball... do you?

Their lineup is:
PG: Rondo, Ball, Berry
SG: Ingram, Hart, SVI, KCP,
SF: Lebron, Stephenson, Bonga
PF: Beasley, Kuzma, Wagner
Ctr: Javale, Zubac

KCP won't see many mins on the floor as he is expendable first... They'll add another center and Svi, Bonga and Wagner will all see at least 25mins on the floor in the regular season (but not in the playoffs) as to see who worths keeping... By Feb 19, whoever doesn't suit Lebron's game gets traded for what Lebron suggests instead...

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:28 PM
Giannis is 23, almost 24 btw bucksalls or whatever. Spewing false info like Giannis is only 22 is a form of trolling.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:30 PM
No... they won't be making a trade... As with the CAVs, Lebron will see what is missed as to help him out on the playoffs and will demand some trades to happen... which they will happen....



You don't seem to know much on basketball... do you?

Their lineup is:
PG: Rondo, Ball, Berry
SG: Ingram, Hart, SVI, KCP,
SF: Lebron, Stephenson, Bonga
PF: Beasley, Kuzma, Wagner
Ctr: Javale, Zubac

KCP won't see many mins on the floor as he is expendable first... They'll add another center and Svi, Bonga and Wagner will all see at least 25mins on the floor in the regular season (but not in the playoffs) as to see who worths keeping... By Feb 19, whoever doesn't suit Lebron's game gets traded for what Lebron suggests instead...

Idk basketball but you have Beasley starting lmao!

They may very well put Ingram at the 2 but if they do Kuzma will be starting at the 4.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 02:32 PM
.....bucksalls or whatever.....

May lord forgive you Mrs Trolla... Idiots are to forgive anyway...

WhiteShadow42
09-12-2018, 02:35 PM
Maybe so, at least their being active though. A lot of the time their trolling sparks discussion between the non-trolls and brings good activity to the board.

Always the optimist. That type of trolling is fine, but the stuff that is trolled on another forum is just senseless comms to just annoy people.

WhiteShadow42
09-12-2018, 02:37 PM
Youíre confused friend.

My favorite Giannis highlight:


https://youtu.be/5WWlUn5ZjaQ

LOL. And that's towards Wade's end of career. I miss 2004-2007 Wade.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 02:40 PM
Idk basketball but you have Beasley starting lmao!

They may very well put Ingram at the 2 but if they do Kuzma will be starting at the 4.

It should be LMFAO with you... yes, Beasley is starting... Kuzma will share some of his mins in SF in "internal rotation" and Ingram too...

What Lebron wants is to create the more space possible on his side by having a "power" guy on the opposite side instead of having a "shooter" there... that's why he asked for Beasley...

EDIT: You don't seem to know much about basketball do you? I mean for you playing "3 guards on the floor" is the same as playing "2 guards + 2 forwards"... Well... Lebron knows better and he wants to have both alternatives as to avoid being "mismatched" on the floor...

EDIT-2: i guess now you've learned smth that makes you troll less when you (are trying to) have a "basketball conversation" with people that play yo-yo with you brain... Praise the Lord for that!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:43 PM
LOL. And that's towards Wade's end of career. I miss 2004-2007 Wade.

Me too, the good ole days :(

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:45 PM
May lord forgive you Mrs Trolla... Idiots are to forgive anyway...

Be careful, would hate for you to be banned.

Didnít you just say a form of trolling is replying but replying off subject because you donít have an actual response?

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 02:45 PM
Idk basketball but you have Beasley starting lmao!

They may very well put Ingram at the 2 but if they do Kuzma will be starting at the 4.

Lmfao heís clueless

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:45 PM
Always the optimist. That type of trolling is fine, but the stuff that is trolled on another forum is just senseless comms to just annoy people.

Yea I can defintely understand that.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 02:46 PM
This thread is great

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 02:49 PM
It should be LMFAO with you... yes, Beasley is starting... Kuzma will share some of his mins in SF in "internal rotation" and Ingram too...

What Lebron wants is to create the more space possible on his side by having a "power" guy on the opposite side instead of having a "shooter" there... that's why he asked for Beasley...

EDIT: You don't seem to know much about basketball do you? I mean for you playing "3 guards on the floor is the same as playing 2guards + 2 forwards.... Lebron knows better and he wants to have both alternatives as to avoid being "mismatched" on the floor...

What lmFao?! How does a power player create more space for LeBron than a shooter?

What 3 guards was I playing?

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 03:02 PM
What lmFao?! How does a power player create more space for LeBron than a shooter?

What 3 guards was I playing?

You know he doesnít know Ish about Lakers basketball right?

buckalis
09-12-2018, 03:20 PM
[/QUOTE] Don't rush to "answer" (whatever nonesense you are saying)... you missed this part:

"i guess now you've learned smth that makes you troll less when you (are trying to) have a "basketball conversation" with people that play yo-yo with you brain... Praise the Lord for that!"


What lmFao?

I say that you shouldn't use LMAO on serious conversations... it suits you better if you use LMFAO... it suits "your style" much better... Especially when you are trying to have a "conversation" with people who play yo-yo with your brains...


How does a power player create more space for LeBron than a shooter?

: Ohhh... that's why I'm saying "you don't know much about basketball, do you?"... thanks for confirming, but the space here and the trolling doesn't permit to give you a "basketball lesson"... But ask your neighborhood's priest... I think he may know the difference between playing "3 guards" or "2 guards + 2 forwards"... he may also knows what "getting mismatched" is...


What 3 guards was I playing? You was playing nothing other than your mojo...
By using a "shooter only" player at SF that doesn't (or rarely) attacks the rim in a "penetrating the opponent's defense" manner, its called "3-guard playing" in basketball language...
How big the man you are using is, doesn't change or matter the tactics.... Lebron is a "power guy" most effective when at SF where he can do better much of the team's play making, you can't have a "shooter only" guy playing at PF then, because it automatically means that you've turned the PF to SF and the SF to PF and play "3-guard"....

Now praise the lord for having another (free) lesson... even if you get humiliated on your "basketball knowledge"... it worths it!

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 03:23 PM
:laugh:

WhiteShadow42
09-12-2018, 03:30 PM
Don't rush to "answer" (whatever nonesense you are saying)... you missed this part:

"i guess now you've learned smth that makes you troll less when you (are trying to) have a "basketball conversation" with people that play yo-yo with you brain... Praise the Lord for that!"



I say that you shouldn't use LMAO on serious conversations... it suits you better if you use LMFAO... it suits "your style" much better... Especially when you are trying to have a "conversation" with people who play yo-yo with your brains...

: Ohhh... that's why I'm saying "you don't know much about basketball, do you?"... thanks for confirming, but the space here and the trolling doesn't permit to give you a "basketball lesson"... But ask your neighborhood's priest... I think he may know the difference between playing "3 guards" or "2 guards + 2 forwards"... he may also knows what "getting mismatched" is...

You was playing nothing other than your mojo... By using a "shooter only" player at SF that doesn't (or rarely) attacks the rim by penetrating the opponent's defense, its called "3-guard playing" in basketball language...
How big the man you are using is, doesn't change or matter the tactics.... Lebron is a "power guy" most effective when at SF where he can do better much of the team's play making, you can't have a "shooter only" guy playing at PF then, because it automatically means that you've turned the PF to SF and the SF to PF and play "3-guard"....

Now praise the lord for having another (free) lesson... even if you get humiliated on your "basketball knowledge"... it worths it![/QUOTE]

Dude. PM me the drug that you are on so I can try it.

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 03:31 PM
Lmfao. Buckalis thinks Michael Beasley will be starting for the Lakers but he's lecturing everyone about knowing basketball. Lakers signed Beasley because he's a high reward/low risk player who can generate some offense OFF the bench. Please stop making a fool out of yourself, man. It's not even funny anymore.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 03:57 PM
Lmfao.

That's better!


Buckalis thinks Michael Beasley will be starting for the Lakers but he's lecturing everyone about knowing basketball. Lakers signed Beasley because he's a high reward/low risk player who can generate some offense OFF the bench. Please stop making a fool out of yourself, man. It's not even funny anymore.

I've explained why Lebron denmanded as to have a real forward joining the team and (earlier) a real PG too... I've explained in basketball tactics why both were important as to surround Lebron...

If you have an alternative that you can suggest under basketball tactics, please explain and I'll stand in awe! :D

Go play your dolls before you dare to call on me when I discuss basketball...

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 03:59 PM
:laugh2: goodness. Better here than our forum. Later guys, Enjoy BuckAnusilis

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 04:18 PM
That's better!



I've explained why Lebron denmanded as to have a real forward joining the team and (earlier) a real PG too... I've explained in basketball tactics why both were important as to surround Lebron...

If you have an alternative that you can suggest under basketball tactics, please explain and I'll stand in awe! :D

Go play your dolls before you dare to call on me when I discuss basketball...

If Beasley starts, I stop using PSD for a year. If Beasley doesn't start, you stop using PSD for a year. Deal?

buckalis
09-12-2018, 04:24 PM
If Beasley starts, I stop using PSD for a year. If Beasley doesn't start, you stop using PSD for a year. Deal?

Beasley would start on the playoffs with the current roster and I've given you the reasons... The Q you should ask yourself is rather, "how the Lakers roster will look until February?"

If it's the same I will stop using PSD for a year, if it's different, you do! ...Deal?

EDIT: ...and it's not Beasley or Rondo that will be traded...

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 04:26 PM
Don't rush to "answer" (whatever nonesense you are saying)... you missed this part:

"i guess now you've learned smth that makes you troll less when you (are trying to) have a "basketball conversation" with people that play yo-yo with you brain... Praise the Lord for that!"



I say that you shouldn't use LMAO on serious conversations... it suits you better if you use LMFAO... it suits "your style" much better... Especially when you are trying to have a "conversation" with people who play yo-yo with your brains...

: Ohhh... that's why I'm saying "you don't know much about basketball, do you?"... thanks for confirming, but the space here and the trolling doesn't permit to give you a "basketball lesson"... But ask your neighborhood's priest... I think he may know the difference between playing "3 guards" or "2 guards + 2 forwards"... he may also knows what "getting mismatched" is...

You was playing nothing other than your mojo...
By using a "shooter only" player at SF that doesn't (or rarely) attacks the rim in a "penetrating the opponent's defense" manner, its called "3-guard playing" in basketball language...
How big the man you are using is, doesn't change or matter the tactics.... Lebron is a "power guy" most effective when at SF where he can do better much of the team's play making, you can't have a "shooter only" guy playing at PF then, because it automatically means that you've turned the PF to SF and the SF to PF and play "3-guard"....

Now praise the lord for having another (free) lesson... even if you get humiliated on your "basketball knowledge"... it worths it![/QUOTE]

lmFao! What shooter did I have playing SF that doesnít attack?

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 04:26 PM
If Beasley starts, I stop using PSD for a year. If Beasley doesn't start, you stop using PSD for a year. Deal?

Lmao itís not going to be that easy to get rid of Giannis94

WhiteShadow42
09-12-2018, 04:28 PM
If Beasley starts, I stop using PSD for a year. If Beasley doesn't start, you stop using PSD. Deal?

Corrected.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 04:29 PM
Beasley would start on the playoffs with the current roster and I've given you the reasons... The Q you should ask yourself is rather, "how the Lakers roster will look until February?"

If it's the same I will stop using PSD for a year, if it's different, you do! ...Deal?

EDIT: ...and it's not Beasley or Rondo that will be traded...

Donít back track now, donít be scared kid. If Beasley doesnít start majority of the games for the Lakers this year you deactivate for a year, if he does then Flashbolt will deactivate. Donít switch up your stance now that youíve been called out on it.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 04:32 PM
lmFao! What shooter did I have playing SF that doesnít attack?

As I said before you are playing nothing in basketball... only your mojo... "Shooter" is Michael Douglas playing on cinema.

Leftcoast_yg
09-12-2018, 04:33 PM
You are confused... this was Brogdon on (much bigger) Kuzma... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjLDYTMXYjs

EDIT: I guess that's what one calls "making Kuzma his *****"... ain't it?

Lakers rookie destroys Giannis and Bucks defense to win in OT, makes Giannis his beach with 27, 12 and 6 Lmao.
https://youtu.be/B7Dn916jG10

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 04:36 PM
Lakers rookie destroys Giannis and Bucks defense to win in OT, makes Giannis his beach with 27, 12 and 6 Lmao.
https://youtu.be/B7Dn916jG10

Lol!

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 04:36 PM
As I said before you are playing nothing in basketball... only your mojo... "Shooter" is Michael Douglas playing on cinema.

You may be the biggest troll yet lol

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 04:36 PM
Donít back track now, donít be scared kid. If Beasley doesnít start majority of the games for the Lakers this year you deactivate for a year, if he does then Flashbolt will deactivate. Donít switch up your stance now that youíve been called out on it.

He wonít do it, scared to put his money where his mouth is, all talk no walk

buckalis
09-12-2018, 04:42 PM
Lakers rookie destroys Giannis and Bucks defense to win in OT, makes Giannis his beach with 27, 12 and 6 Lmao.
https://youtu.be/B7Dn916jG10 You got it wrong buddy... the Bucks won this game in O/T...

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 04:44 PM
He wonít do it, scared to put his money where his mouth is, all talk no walk

Heís for sure scared lol, look at him ignoring it now.

WhiteShadow42
09-12-2018, 04:45 PM
Lakers rookie destroys Giannis and Bucks defense to win in OT, makes Giannis his beach with 27, 12 and 6 Lmao.
https://youtu.be/B7Dn916jG10

Wonder how Middleton did in that game.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 04:52 PM
You may be the biggest troll yet lol

"Basic instinct" is the film's title... It's filmed in California too... "Shooters" do happen in California movies!
There is that other film where "air MJ" is invited by the cartoon basketball team as to help them beat the aliens... does it ring a bell?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 04:54 PM
Scared of the bet FlashGoat made you I see. If you canít back it up you need to pipe down little guy.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 05:02 PM
Scared of the bet FlashGoat made you I see. If you canít back it up you need to pipe down little guy.

Me scared? Why aren't you taking the bet that "lakers team will look much different by February" then? Eeeeh Chicken?

Do you expect me to say that Beasley will be a starter on a much different roster team that I'm sure there will be and take a bet on it? ...Chicken!

I don't bite on cheap traps "chicken troll"!

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 05:04 PM
Do you guys smell that?

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 05:12 PM
Me scared? Why aren't you taking the bet that "lakers team will look much different by February" then? Eeeeh Chicken?

Do you expect me to say that Beasley will be a starter on a much different roster team that I'm sure there will be and take a bet on it? ...Chicken!

I don't bite on cheap traps "chicken troll"!

We already know the Lakers roster and you said Beasley would be the starter. The current team is pretty much set in stone until Feb like you said so if heís going to be the starter he should start right away. If youíre so sure of yourself then you should take the bet

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 05:12 PM
Do you guys smell that?

:laugh:

IndyRealist
09-12-2018, 05:17 PM
According to this thread, Celtics/Lakers is gonna be epic for the next decade.

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 05:21 PM
According to this thread, Celtics/Lakers is gonna be epic for the next decade.

Celtics fans are lucky, they have an elite team for the next decade or more. Lakers could too depending on the jumps their guys make. I think more so the Celtics because their young guys are currently better and they also have the Kings pick this year and a shot at Zion/Barrett/Reddish

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 05:23 PM
Lebron James!!!!

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 05:24 PM
The People deserve another showdown

a Lebron James Lakers led team vs Kyrie and the Celtics. :nod:

WaDe03
09-12-2018, 05:28 PM
The People deserve another showdown

a Lebron James Lakers led team vs Kyrie and the Celtics. :nod:

Would be fun but thereís a team in the West with 2 of the top 3 players, another top 12 player, and 2 other top 25 players lol.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 05:31 PM
Would be fun but thereís a team in the West with 2 of the top 3 players, another top 12 player, and 2 other top 25 players lol.

Yea we know... never know something could happen.

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 05:48 PM
Me scared? Why aren't you taking the bet that "lakers team will look much different by February" then? Eeeeh Chicken?

Do you expect me to say that Beasley will be a starter on a much different roster team that I'm sure there will be and take a bet on it? ...Chicken!

I don't bite on cheap traps "chicken troll"!

So you proclaim that LeBron wanted Beasley to start but then backtrack and say the lineups will be different because of roster changes? Make up your mind. He's not a starter and won't start unless everyone has their legs chopped off and can't play.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 07:31 PM
So you proclaim that LeBron wanted Beasley to start but then backtrack and say the lineups will be different because of roster changes? Make up your mind. He's not a starter and won't start unless everyone has their legs chopped off and can't play.

WTF are you talking about?

I've said in multiple posts of mine over the last 3 months that the Lakers roster will look much different by this Feb. and I've posted the same in this very thread, many pages ago... look it back!

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 07:44 PM
WTF are you talking about?

I've said in multiple posts of mine over the last 3 months that the Lakers roster will look much different by this Feb. and I've posted the same in this very thread, many pages ago... look it back!

You said Beasley would start.. WTF are you talking about? Do you think he starts or not? If you're not sure because the roster may change, why the hell did you even say he would start in the first place? You're the one who made that assumption. You could have easily stated that you're not sure who would start but instead, you chose to name their entire starting lineup but backtrack when you realized how stupid it was, lol.

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 07:48 PM
Post #161, page 11.


Buckalis:

"It should be LMFAO with you... yes, Beasley is starting... Kuzma will share some of his mins in SF in "internal rotation" and Ingram too... "

Few pages later...

"I don't know if Beasley will start because the roster may change up to February."

You are confusing everyone, including yourself.

buckalis
09-12-2018, 08:36 PM
Post #161, page 11.


Buckalis:

"It should be LMFAO with you... yes, Beasley is starting... Kuzma will share some of his mins in SF in "internal rotation" and Ingram too... "

Few pages later...

"I don't know if Beasley will start because the roster may change up to February."

You are confusing everyone, including yourself.

I mean that if it would be the current roster through the the season, then Beasley will be starting for the playoffs playing at 4, then I proposed a bet to anyone that wants, that the current roster will look much different by Feb... Is that clear now?

"I don't know if Beasley will start because the roster may change up to February." That I never said....

Ishkabibble
09-12-2018, 08:47 PM
Hart will be better than Rozier

Look, by now, we're all pretty sure you believe Hart is better than Kyrie, too.

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 09:05 PM
I mean that if it would be the current roster through the the season, then Beasley will be starting for the playoffs playing at 4, then I proposed a bet to anyone that wants, that the current roster will look much different by Feb... Is that clear now?

"I don't know if Beasley will start because the roster may change up to February." That I never said....

Bro, no one understands what you are saying. Clear up your argument before you make one.

Bostonjorge
09-12-2018, 09:13 PM
We will find out during the finals. Lakers vs Celtics finals on Pay Per View.

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 09:23 PM
You may be the biggest troll yet lol

Thatís why Iím thinking it may not be Giannis. Giannis used to make me laugh. This guy really isnít. But Iíve ruled out Amosler and Lolplease for sure

FlashBolt
09-12-2018, 09:25 PM
Thatís why Iím thinking it may not be Giannis. Giannis used to make me laugh. This guy really isnít. But Iíve ruled out Amosler and Lolplease for sure

I mean, Giannis94 wasn't stupid. Probably using another one of his online personas this time. There's definitely a resemblance of some sort.

IKnowHoops
09-12-2018, 09:30 PM
Look, by now, we're all pretty sure you believe Hart is better than Kyrie, too.

He definitely plays better defense. I actually see Josh Hart as better than Rozier also. I think itís apparent half way through the season. Stevens is just a great coach. Iíve seen mental mistakes from Rozier that Hart just wont make. I suppose I could be wrong on this but letís just revisit it around the all star break.

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:30 PM
Look, by now, we're all pretty sure you believe Hart is better than Kyrie, too.

Did Kyrie even play last year? I canít remember :)

GREATNESS ONE
09-12-2018, 09:31 PM
He definitely plays better defense. I actually see Josh Hart as better than Rozier also. I think itís apparent half way through the season. Stevens is just a great coach. Iíve seen mental mistakes from Rozier that Hart just wont make. I suppose I could be wrong on this but letís just revisit it around the all star break.

Yes, I look forward to that :nod:

buckalis
09-12-2018, 09:40 PM
Bro, no one understands what you are saying. Clear up your argument before you make one.

All I'm saying is that Lebron will play at 3 because he can do his play making better from there than if he is at 4.... and that he asked for Beasley so that he can have one that can attack the rim better than Kuzma at 4 which would then create more space for Lebron on the opposite side.

It therefore looks more probable that Beasley will start on important games (and certainly at the playoffs) if the current roster lasts... which it won't (last).

buckalis
09-12-2018, 09:42 PM
I believe the next trade that Lebron will ask for and the Lakers will do, will be for a big PF that can play sbCenter too...

WaDe03
09-13-2018, 10:11 AM
I mean that if it would be the current roster through the the season, then Beasley will be starting for the playoffs playing at 4, then I proposed a bet to anyone that wants, that the current roster will look much different by Feb... Is that clear now?

"I don't know if Beasley will start because the roster may change up to February." That I never said....

So they would go with one starting lineup over the course of the regular season and then when the playoffs got here they would change the lineup theyíve used all year and after February and just decide to throw Beasley in the starting lineup? You have no clue what youíre talking about. May the good lord be with you today.

WaDe03
09-13-2018, 10:13 AM
All I'm saying is that Lebron will play at 3 because he can do his play making better from there than if he is at 4.... and that he asked for Beasley so that he can have one that can attack the rim better than Kuzma at 4 which would then create more space for Lebron on the opposite side.

It therefore looks more probable that Beasley will start on important games (and certainly at the playoffs) if the current roster lasts... which it won't (last).

So LeBron would rather be a shooter instead of attacking like he has his whole career?

WaDe03
09-13-2018, 10:13 AM
He definitely plays better defense. I actually see Josh Hart as better than Rozier also. I think itís apparent half way through the season. Stevens is just a great coach. Iíve seen mental mistakes from Rozier that Hart just wont make. I suppose I could be wrong on this but letís just revisit it around the all star break.

Stop it lol

Rivera
09-13-2018, 10:55 AM
good to have Giannis94 back

as far as Hart v Rozier it depends what you want

Hart is a more consistent knockdown shooter and plays good D

Rozier has better handles, is quicker, can get to the rim better, and has a knack of making plays

they are similar in the sense that, not one stands out more than the other but it just depends on what skill set your team needs

im curious though to the leap Josh Hart will make from year 1 to year 2

IKnowHoops
09-13-2018, 06:45 PM
Stop it lol

We will revisit this my friend...All Star break we will talk.

cmellofan15
09-13-2018, 08:35 PM
So a couple dudes who grabbed garbage stats on a bottom feeder vs dudes who contributed to winning on a conference finals team? HMMM...tough choice....:laugh2:

FlashBolt
09-13-2018, 11:42 PM
So a couple dudes who grabbed garbage stats on a bottom feeder vs dudes who contributed to winning on a conference finals team? HMMM...tough choice....:laugh2:

Boston's overall roster was much better and their coach is widely regarded as a top three NBA coach so let's not pretend that Tatum/Brown are most responsible for the Celtics success. Horford/Kyrie aren't exactly scrubs, ya know?

cmellofan15
09-14-2018, 12:14 AM
Boston's overall roster was much better and their coach is widely regarded as a top three NBA coach so let's not pretend that Tatum/Brown are most responsible for the Celtics success. Horford/Kyrie aren't exactly scrubs, ya know?

Sure Horfordís not a scrub, and helps Brown & Tatum tremendously on the defensive end. But we saw exactly what these players could do without Kyrie on the court for a good portion of the season and post season.

Sure, credit the coach, the gm, the janitor, really anybody but the players. But the Lakers sucked with an exceptional coach so who exactly is responsible for that..?

I guess between a guy who doesnít step foot on the floor and a savy veteran center the Celtics just willed themselves within one game of the NBA Finals LMAO

FlashBolt
09-14-2018, 12:21 AM
Sure Horfordís not a scrub, and helps Brown & Tatum tremendously on the defensive end. But we saw exactly what these players could do without Kyrie on the court for a good portion of the season and post season.

Sure, credit the coach, the gm, the janitor, really anybody but the players. But the Lakers sucked with an exceptional coach so who exactly is responsible for that..?

I guess between a guy who doesnít step foot on the floor and a savy veteran center the Celtics just willed themselves within one game of the NBA Finals LMAO

I'm not sure what you're laughing about. Typing LMAO doesn't make your argument any stronger.

1) Boston had the better overall roster.
2) Boston had the veterans to help the younger players.
3) Boston has a much better head coach. I don't know why you even mentioned Luke but calling him an exceptional coach when he's rather unproven (please don't use his Warriors coaching experience as evidence), is a reach.
4) I never said Tatum and Brown didn't deserve any credit. They're great young players but I clearly wrote, "Let's not pretend Tatum/Brown are most responsible for the Celtics success." Nice of you to deflect and bring up the janitor/GM...

Props to Tatum and Brown but let's see them both swapped for Kuzma/Ingram and deal with a rebuilding roster, a Lonzo Ball as their leading PG, Lavar Ball on the sidelines calling out the coach/players, and playing against the top Western Conference teams 3-4x each. Then tell me they make the playoffs, lol..

FlashBolt
09-14-2018, 12:27 AM
Btw, if you want evidence of Stevens's impact on players, please tell me what happened to Crowder. Dude went from being a serviceable starter to an inefficient player since being traded to the Cavs/Jazz. Hint: Everyone eats under a Pop/Stevens system.

Leftcoast_yg
09-14-2018, 03:33 AM
I'm not sure what you're laughing about. Typing LMAO doesn't make your argument any stronger.

1) Boston had the better overall roster.
2) Boston had the veterans to help the younger players.
3) Boston has a much better head coach. I don't know why you even mentioned Luke but calling him an exceptional coach when he's rather unproven (please don't use his Warriors coaching experience as evidence), is a reach.
4) I never said Tatum and Brown didn't deserve any credit. They're great young players but I clearly wrote, "Let's not pretend Tatum/Brown are most responsible for the Celtics success." Nice of you to deflect and bring up the janitor/GM...

Props to Tatum and Brown but let's see them both swapped for Kuzma/Ingram and deal with a rebuilding roster, a Lonzo Ball as their leading PG, Lavar Ball on the sidelines calling out the coach/players, and playing against the top Western Conference teams 3-4x each. Then tell me they make the playoffs, lol..

Bravo!

Ishkabibble
09-14-2018, 09:53 PM
Bravo!

This "swapped for Kuzma/Ingram" thing is just stupid. I get it's conjecture but just move forward..

ZH721
09-15-2018, 04:29 PM
He definitely plays better defense. I actually see Josh Hart as better than Rozier also. I think itís apparent half way through the season. Stevens is just a great coach. Iíve seen mental mistakes from Rozier that Hart just wont make. I suppose I could be wrong on this but letís just revisit it around the all star break.

Yikes.

Rozier is both better right now and has a higher ceiling.

ZH721
09-15-2018, 04:30 PM
Hart will be better than Rozier

This ainít it chief lol. At least give a decent attempt at not being a homer.

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 04:53 PM
This ainít it chief lol. At least give a decent attempt at not being a homer.

Sorry, I like Hart better than Rozier, Homer or not but he is taller, bigger, just as good of a defender if not better since Hart loves guarding bigger guys. I honestly think both franchises are set up nicely for the long run and the young cores are both very good.

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 05:05 PM
Yikes.

Rozier is both better right now and has a higher ceiling.

This ainít it Chief. At least give a decent attemp at not being a homer.

ManningToTyree
09-15-2018, 05:29 PM
Tatum and Brown pretty easily


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nastynice
09-15-2018, 06:07 PM
Brown Tatum obviously had a better system to play in, but with lebron this year it will be more equal when comparing these 4 players

ZH721
09-15-2018, 07:05 PM
This ainít it Chief. At least give a decent attemp at not being a homer.

Everything I said was true. Youíre just a massive homer lol.

ZH721
09-15-2018, 07:07 PM
This ainít it Chief. At least give a decent attemp at not being a homer.

You also said the Lakers have a better young core than the Celtics. I think that tells everyone everything that they need to know.

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 07:27 PM
I think they do, overall ZO, BI, KUZ, Hart is a fantastic young core.


I still voted Tatum/Brown but itís very early and only time will tell. If you think the Lakers young core isnít close, you probably either hate the Lakers, looked at the standings, or never/barely watch their games.

ZH721
09-15-2018, 07:40 PM
I think they do, overall ZO, BI, KUZ, Hart is a fantastic young core.


I still voted Tatum/Brown but itís very early and only time will tell. If you think the Lakers young core isnít close, you probably either hate the Lakers, looked at the standings, or never/barely watch their games.

Almost everyone in this thread has voted Tatum/Brown, with a good amount saying ďpretty easilyĒ. Add Rozier/Smart/Ojeleye/etc and the Celtics are simply better. Keep being a homer.

ewing
09-15-2018, 07:59 PM
Knox and Robinson


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GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 08:40 PM
Almost everyone in this thread has voted Tatum/Brown, with a good amount saying ďpretty easilyĒ. Add Rozier/Smart/Ojeleye/etc and the Celtics are simply better. Keep being a homer.

Lmfao did I not say, I voted Tatum/Brown? Here we go again, ring around the rosey. Weíll find out in 5-7years little buddy.

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 08:41 PM
Why are you even following me around, you only have 290 posts lmao go bug someone else kid

More-Than-Most
09-15-2018, 09:10 PM
I dont understand how people can look at these 4 players and not see ingram as the most special piece. If we were rating them it would go

Ingram

Tatum






Brown/Kuzma



Nudge goes to LA because ingram is gonna be that special.

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 09:16 PM
I dont understand how people can look at these 4 players and not see ingram as the most special piece. If we were rating them it would go

Ingram

Tatum






Brown/Kuzma



Nudge goes to LA because ingram is gonna be that special.

:)

IKnowHoops
09-15-2018, 09:25 PM
Almost everyone in this thread has voted Tatum/Brown, with a good amount saying ďpretty easilyĒ. Add Rozier/Smart/Ojeleye/etc and the Celtics are simply better. Keep being a homer.

LA will be better than the Celtics. Bron is better than any 3 guys put together on the Celts roster.

Raps18-19 Champ
09-15-2018, 10:06 PM
Celtics core easily.

Raps18-19 Champ
09-15-2018, 10:08 PM
I dont understand how people can look at these 4 players and not see ingram as the most special piece. If we were rating them it would go

Ingram

Tatum






Brown/Kuzma



Nudge goes to LA because ingram is gonna be that special.

Nah. I'm a Lakers guy and I do believe Ingram is going to be better than all. But we're not talking Lebron/Durant type talent. More like all star/3rd all nba type player. He's not good enough on his own to make up the difference between Brown and Kuzma. And these guys are like 2-3 more years away. The question is in 2018-2019.

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 10:29 PM
lmfao you're nowhere close to a "Lakers guy" MTM is more of a Lakers guy. :laugh: that **** is hilarious Micheal, completely off as usual.. MTM, you're welcome into the Lakers forum this year, Raps, again kick rocks.

nastynice
09-15-2018, 11:17 PM
LA will be better than the Celtics. Bron is better than any 3 guys put together on the Celts roster.

I think Boston will be right there with Houston, I think LA will be the next tier down, nicely poised for a signing next summer to try and vault them

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 11:18 PM
I think Boston will be right there with Houston, I think LA will be the next tier down, nicely poised for a signing next summer to try and vault them

My Raiders brother, we have been vaulted this year, see you in the playoffs.

Scoots
09-15-2018, 11:29 PM
I dont understand how people can look at these 4 players and not see ingram as the most special piece. If we were rating them it would go

Ingram

Tatum






Brown/Kuzma

Nudge goes to LA because ingram is gonna be that special.

Defense?

GREATNESS ONE
09-15-2018, 11:45 PM
Defense?

Ingram has a 7'3 wingspan, played against Durant well... (did you watch that game(s)?) Ingram is very good but our best perimiter defenders are Lonzo/Hart. Lonzo being 2nd in all PG's in blocks and top 10 defensively for all PG's... Hart fantastic, big, strong, "Josh Barkley" I only come in here for the **** and giggles. Laugh and cries. It's all good, I know a large portion of people hate/don't watch the Lakers.