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mrblisterdundee
05-30-2018, 12:02 PM
What happens with DeMarcus Cousins?
The track record isn't good for achilles tears, but he could still a useful center. Do the Pelicans pay him big to stay? Could they work out a sign-and-trade to Washington for Porter? Does a bottom-feeder with cap space take the risk and offer him the max? Could he be a reclamation project for the Spurs?

TheDish87
05-30-2018, 12:32 PM
i think a S/T for Porter+ would be a good move for both teams. Wash can slide Obure into the SF role and NO fills a consistent wing void

Leftcoast_yg
05-30-2018, 12:40 PM
The bottom feeding pistons should trade for him. They never got over that meltdown. But Cousins is going to end up on a 1 yr contract for as much as he can get and that way he can cash in 2019 if he ALLOWS the injury to heal.

Giannis94
05-30-2018, 12:49 PM
lakers for the max

FlashBolt
05-30-2018, 07:47 PM
Would love to see Cousins resign.

specialiststeve
05-30-2018, 11:35 PM
Idea's.....

Clippers/Pelicans... Jordan opts out and does a sign and trade for Cousins who also does a sign and trade. Jordan goes to the where he doesn't need the ball and can play D... Cousins goes to the Clips and can be the man and put up huge numbers.....

OKC/Pelicans....... George opts out and does a sign and trade for Cousins.... Cousins plays PF for Okc and George makes the Pels very tough! Cousins and Westbrook together would be a must watch just to see Cousins yell at Westbrook to give him the damn ball.....

LAL/Pelicans....... 2 for 1 special..... Brook Lopez and Caldwell Pope In a sign and trade for Cousins.... LA get's their next big man in a long line and he leads them "almost" to the playoffs.... Pelicans can use the 2 for depth and guys that know how to play.

Suns/Pelicans ..... Chandler and Bender for Cousins. Cousins can fill all the stats up and not have to play that dreaded defense. Pelicans get a veteran center that is about defense and rebounding with a literal lottery ticket in Bender. Bender turns into a decent rotation guy.....

Blazers/Pelicans... Sign and trade for McCollum. Portland needs a reset and would give the Pelicans another huge weapon. Blazers get a great talent and with their fan base comes to play more often and has a great year.

Will be interesting to see where he goes...

D Blue987
05-31-2018, 12:22 AM
Nobody in their right mind will offer him a multiyear deal until he proves his health is good for a season. Think he will have to take a discounted 1 year deal no matter what. Lakers make a lot of sense if Lebron signs elsewhere.

Giannis94
05-31-2018, 12:40 AM
Nobody in their right mind will offer him a multiyear deal until he proves his health is good for a season. Think he will have to take a discounted 1 year deal no matter what. Lakers make a lot of sense if Lebron signs elsewhere.

Lakers also make a lot of sense for him on a multi year deal. Why would the Lakers want half a season of dmc if it's 1 year and say he's rehabbing for 1/2. Might as well and get some bang for your buck in case he returns to form.

I also wouldn't be shocked if he gets 80+ well because Lakers and it's definitely something they would do.

Dade County
05-31-2018, 01:07 AM
I would like Cousins to find his way unto Houston or Portland.

Houston:
Try to work something out with Cappella, see if New Orleans is interested in him. Try to do a sign & trade; if not just match whatever offer sheet Cappella signs & trade him in December.

Trade Anderson & fillers for Melo.

Cp3/Beverly(bring him back)
Harden
Melo
Tucker
Cousins

I don't believe Pels will offer Cousins a max, so maybe he signs a 2yr contract, opt out after 1st year. Rockets will miss Eric Gordon & Ariza but they need to find young cheap players that can grow into these rolls.

R. Johnson#3
05-31-2018, 08:14 AM
Pelicans had a better win% when he was out. 27-21 with him 21-13 without. Granted its less games but youd think replacing DeMarcus with Mirotic wouldnt result in that kind of success.

He went through 7 coaches in 6 years down in Sac.

Hes a great basketball player who doesnt know his own limitations and in turn holds his teams back. Hes a big that has the ball in his hands WAY too much. Especially when you have guys like Rondo and Jrue on your squad. He takes too many 3s a game for a guy with a % south of 40 that has the capability to eat up offensive boards. Oh and hes also a turnover machine. Hes holding himself back.

IndyRealist
05-31-2018, 08:42 AM
LAL: I don't think you can sign and trade 2 players in the same deal on one side (Lopez and Pope). I believe if it's a sign and trade they cannot be traded with anyone else. But it's an obscure rule so I might be wrong.

HOU: Capela makes Houston work. He -is- their defense, and his ability to finish off pnr and cuts spaces their dribble heavy offense. Cousins would demand the ball from Harden and Paul.

WAS: S&T for Porter makes the most sense for everyone. I like Wall much better as a 3rd option than a 1b. They still have to move Gortat and Mahimni regardless, likely for depth at the forward spots.

IndyRealist
05-31-2018, 08:50 AM
Pelicans had a better win% when he was out. 27-21 with him 21-13 without. Granted its less games but youd think replacing DeMarcus with Mirotic wouldnt result in that kind of success.

He went through 7 coaches in 6 years down in Sac.

Hes a great basketball player who doesnt know his own limitations and in turn holds his teams back. Hes a big that has the ball in his hands WAY too much. Especially when you have guys like Rondo and Jrue on your squad. He takes too many 3s a game for a guy with a % south of 40 that has the capability to eat up offensive boards. Oh and hes also a turnover machine. Hes holding himself back.

Cousins has never been great. He has all the tools to be, and he certainly looks the part. But it's turnovers, incredibly poor shot selection, and being generally uncoachable that's kept him from hitting that top tier. He should be prime Shaq but he can't get out of his own way.

ewing
05-31-2018, 09:58 AM
Pelicans had a better win% when he was out. 27-21 with him 21-13 without. Granted its less games but youd think replacing DeMarcus with Mirotic wouldnt result in that kind of success.

He went through 7 coaches in 6 years down in Sac.

Hes a great basketball player who doesnt know his own limitations and in turn holds his teams back. Hes a big that has the ball in his hands WAY too much. Especially when you have guys like Rondo and Jrue on your squad. He takes too many 3s a game for a guy with a % south of 40 that has the capability to eat up offensive boards. Oh and hes also a turnover machine. Hes holding himself back.

agree with all of this

Jamiecballer
05-31-2018, 11:19 AM
Pelicans had a better win% when he was out. 27-21 with him 21-13 without. Granted its less games but youd think replacing DeMarcus with Mirotic wouldnt result in that kind of success.

He went through 7 coaches in 6 years down in Sac.

Hes a great basketball player who doesnt know his own limitations and in turn holds his teams back. Hes a big that has the ball in his hands WAY too much. Especially when you have guys like Rondo and Jrue on your squad. He takes too many 3s a game for a guy with a % south of 40 that has the capability to eat up offensive boards. Oh and hes also a turnover machine. Hes holding himself back.bingo. great summary.

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TheDish87
05-31-2018, 01:25 PM
eh the Pels started really slow with DMC as expected but started to gel a little before he went down.

IndyRealist
05-31-2018, 01:33 PM
eh the Pels started really slow with DMC as expected but started to gel a little before he went down.

Yeah but why pay Cousins when you can pay Mirotic and Okafor a combine half that and not miss a beat?

Vinylman
05-31-2018, 02:29 PM
Yeah but why pay Cousins when you can pay Mirotic and Okafor a combine half that and not miss a beat?

sign him to a 1+1 deal with a $5 million year 2 buyout and then trade him at the deadline...

TheDish87
05-31-2018, 02:45 PM
Yeah but why pay Cousins when you can pay Mirotic and Okafor a combine half that and not miss a beat?

true but im not relying on Okafor going forward but get your point. At the same time they never saw the full potential with Cousins and AD so they could be curious

BKLYNpigeon
05-31-2018, 02:52 PM
Pelicans sign him for 3 years and try trade him the following year.

IndyRealist
05-31-2018, 02:54 PM
sign him to a 1+1 deal with a $5 million year 2 buyout and then trade him at the deadline...

I think some team will gamble that he'll be healthy and offer a longer contract. If you can get him on such team friendly terms, then sure.

Wrigheyes4MVP
05-31-2018, 03:09 PM
I have a feeling he'll still get a max deal from someone. Tough injury for him, but he's still only 27 years old and somebody will pay him the big bucks.

Vinylman
05-31-2018, 07:19 PM
I think some team will gamble that he'll be healthy and offer a longer contract. If you can get him on such team friendly terms, then sure.

even if it is a max year one and 2 I can't see him doing better than that unless he has a clean bill of health

SirSkyHook
05-31-2018, 07:40 PM
Lakers have a run and gun offense. It didnt work for Lopez, why would it for Cousins? Especially after an achilles tear.

JAZZNC
05-31-2018, 08:32 PM
Cousins was already the laziest big man I've seen in a long time...doubt he runs harder after an Achilles tear. I've never seen a "star" big man so consistently be the last man up the court and literally never make it inside the 3pt line. He has all the talent in the world, he just doesn't play winning basketball.

tp13baby
05-31-2018, 08:40 PM
true but im not relying on Okafor going forward but get your point. At the same time they never saw the full potential with Cousins and AD so they could be curious

Yeah I guess but watching them with DMC and then without they were just a better team.

Rain City
05-31-2018, 08:55 PM
Pelicans had a better win% when he was out. 27-21 with him 21-13 without. Granted its less games but youd think replacing DeMarcus with Mirotic wouldnt result in that kind of success.

He went through 7 coaches in 6 years down in Sac.

Hes a great basketball player who doesnt know his own limitations and in turn holds his teams back. Hes a big that has the ball in his hands WAY too much. Especially when you have guys like Rondo and Jrue on your squad. He takes too many 3s a game for a guy with a % south of 40 that has the capability to eat up offensive boards. Oh and hes also a turnover machine. Hes holding himself back.

:clap::clap:

thank you. DMC is destined to be a great player on bad teams. there is a host of guys with inferior talent that will be more conducive to winning basketball.

specialiststeve
05-31-2018, 11:27 PM
I have a feeling he'll still get a max deal from someone. Tough injury for him, but he's still only 27 years old and somebody will pay him the big bucks.

Not sure he will get a max deal for max years but at a minimum he will get something like a 3 year deal for 25 mil per with a likely player option.

Would be my house (as modest as it is) that he gets more than a one year deal.

Everyone knows he is a bit of a problem child but also understand he is a GREAT talent. Those that don't really have not seen him play much. There are a ton of teams that would love to have his talent even with his issues both physically and mentally. The NBA is the one league that will take chances on players .... especially with one that has the tools he has.

Legitimate
05-31-2018, 11:59 PM
OFF TOPIC: i think a durant for giannis needs to happen if lebron stays out east , haha

Sanjay
06-03-2018, 02:22 AM
OFF TOPIC: i think a durant for giannis needs to happen if lebron stays out east , haha

How come?

Giannis94
06-03-2018, 12:50 PM
OFF TOPIC: i think a durant for giannis needs to happen if lebron stays out east , haha

I'm not opposed to it. Milwaukee is just as desirable as a city as Cleveland. But the reality is that in order for a player to win multiple titles in today's day-in-age, you need multiple super-stars. LeBron had Kyrie when he won his in CLE.

Take the GSW blueprint. Get 4 top 20 players and 1 top 30 and the Bucks, with Giannis, take care of GSW pretty handily. Probably in 4-5 games. Say LeBron comes to us in the off-season and then Kawhi the following year. Retain Middleton and because of Warriors, we get another top 20 star with Middleton being the Top 30 guy.

We're looking at:

X
Middleton
Kawhi
giannis
LeBron

Because Giannis can play all 5 positions, in addition to lebron, we can take a Top 20 C or PG if we want to play LeBron at C. and that is fine, because no one really needs a dominant C anymore.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-03-2018, 03:19 PM
Do the Mavs have capspace? They should give him the max.