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JordansBulls
05-15-2018, 11:09 PM
Who wins these games if playing one on one going to 32.

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

LA_Raiders
05-15-2018, 11:36 PM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett (This is a close one, but I think KG takes it; TD is more of a team player)
Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson (Magic)
Shaq vs Hakeem (Shaq will over power him)
P.Ewing vs D.Robinson (Robinson)
Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone (Barkley)
Dwyane Wade vs Dirk (This is a tough one due to the size, but since Irk play no D, I go for Wade)
Kobe vs Lebron (Kobe, he is probably the best one on one player; and Lebron may choke at the end if it gets competitive anyway)
Kareem vs Wilt (Wilt)
Durant vs Dr J (KD, I have never been a fan of Dr J game)
Steph Curry vs Gary Payton ( I think Payton shuts him down)

ewing
05-15-2018, 11:46 PM
IDK, No one is history has played to 32

COOLbeans
05-15-2018, 11:47 PM
Garnett
Bird
Shaq/Hakeem (depends on the day 50/50)
Robinson
Malone
Wade
Kobe
Wilt
Durant
Payton

numba1CHANGsta
05-15-2018, 11:48 PM
Wade vs Dirk and Kobe vs LeBron doesnt seem like a fair matchup. You basically have a guard going up against a forward which wouldn't dictate who is better in the matchup since the forwards would use their height and strength to overpower the guard.

MygirlhatesCod
05-15-2018, 11:59 PM
Who wins these games if playing one on one going to 32.

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

Duncan
Magic
Shaq
Drob
Mailman
Wade, kinda.....wait dirk for sure........kinda
Lebron
Wilt
Durant
Curry

Jeffy25
05-16-2018, 02:23 AM
Who wins these games if playing one on one going to 32.

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett - Duncan

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson - Bird

Shaq vs Hakeem - Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson - Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone - Barkley

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk - Wade

Kobe vs Lebron - LeBron

Kareem vs Wilt - Wilt

Durant vs Dr J - Durant

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton - Curry

Took each player in their primes.

NYKalltheway
05-16-2018, 07:12 AM
I'll bite to this non-sense :)

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

R. Johnson#3
05-16-2018, 08:50 AM
IDK, No one is history has played to 32

Beat me to it. Who the hell plays a game up to 32? Are baskets worth 3 and 4 points?

AntiG
05-16-2018, 09:39 AM
Almost always in these cases will be the guy who is the better jump shooter because you're rarely going to get easy layups. Only a few cases where one player is completely physically outmatched (Lebron vs Kobe) where it doesn't apply.

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

TrueFan420
05-16-2018, 10:34 AM
Seriously with the Wade vs Dirk? Kobe vs Lebron size wise is a little of a mismatch as a SG vs SF but it's no where near as stark as a 6'4 combo guard vs 7' PF.

mightybosstone
05-16-2018, 12:18 PM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett: Duncan has traditionally owned KG in head-to-head matchups.
Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson: Magic can't pass to himself, and Bird's shooting and size would make him tough to guard in a 1 on 1 matchup.
Shaq vs Hakeem: Shaq is more physically dominant, but I don't see him handling Hakeem's athleticism well 1 on 1. Whereas Shaq isn't going to confuse Hakeem, and Olajuwon's not exactly someone you can bulldoze.
Ewing vs Robinson: Slight edge to Robinson here. He was just the more athletic, physically dominant player in their primes offensively.
Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone: Karl Malone blows. Enough said.
Wade vs Dirk: Dirk's length and shooting would be tough for Wade to match up, but I can't see Dirk keeping up with Wade's athleticism.
Kobe vs Lebron: Lebron's size and ability to score from anywhere on the floor at a hyper-efficient pace would just be too much for Kobe. God this one would be fun to watch, though.
Kareem vs Wilt: I'd give a slight edge to Kareem here, as he was probably the more versatile scorer.
Durant vs Dr. J: This is the first one that strikes me as a legitimate mismatch. Durant's length and shooting would be impossible for Dr. J to match. And Durant's length would be a problem for Erving regardless of his athleticism.
Curry vs Payton: Another mismatch for me. Payton is an elite defender, but Curry is unguardable beyond the arc. Once he starts nailing 30-footers, this one would be over in a hurry. Payton doesn't have the scoring chops to keep up 1 on 1.

mrblisterdundee
05-16-2018, 12:50 PM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett
Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson
Shaq vs Hakeem
P.Ewing vs D.Robinson
Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone
Dwyane Wade vs Dirk
Kobe vs Lebron
Kareem vs Wilt
Durant vs Dr J
Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

TheDish87
05-16-2018, 01:19 PM
1v1 games go to 11
2v2 and 3v3 go to 16
5v5 goes to 22 switch at 11

R. Johnson#3
05-16-2018, 01:31 PM
Only one person picked The Glove over Steph. Really goes to show how many people actually watched GP play. Steph wouldnt be able to breathe with GP on him and hed get backed down on every possession. And Im a Steph fan.

mightybosstone
05-16-2018, 03:47 PM
Only one person picked The Glove over Steph. Really goes to show how many people actually watched GP play. Steph wouldnt be able to breathe with GP on him and hed get backed down on every possession. And Im a Steph fan.

Payton would benefit from a half-court 1 on 1 game, because Curry wouldn't get those open looks from 30+ feet that he gets in transition. But the guy doesn't always need space to drill a jumper. And as good as Payton was defensively, he wasn't ever really an elite offensive player or shooter. I just don't think he keeps up with Steph trading twos for threes.

ewing
05-16-2018, 03:52 PM
Beat me to it. Who the hell plays a game up to 32? Are baskets worth 3 and 4 points?

Gotta win by 6. 54 max

R. Johnson#3
05-16-2018, 03:56 PM
Payton would benefit from a half-court 1 on 1 game, because Curry wouldn't get those open looks from 30+ feet that he gets in transition. But the guy doesn't always need space to drill a jumper. And as good as Payton was defensively, he wasn't ever really an elite offensive player or shooter. I just don't think he keeps up with Steph trading twos for threes.

I understand Steph doesn't always need space but he's never been defended by anyone of GP's calibre. I honestly think he'd give him fits. He's arguably the best defensive PG ever.

GP wasn't an elite offensive player or shooter but he had a killer post up game. No way Steph would be able to defend GP in the post. Not a chance.

COOLbeans
05-16-2018, 04:19 PM
Only one person picked The Glove over Steph. Really goes to show how many people actually watched GP play. Steph wouldnt be able to breathe with GP on him and hed get backed down on every possession. And Im a Steph fan.

Hell Im a huge Steph fan but Payton would probably win this by a good margin. However if it was best of 5, then I can see Steph winning

COOLbeans
05-16-2018, 04:23 PM
Payton would benefit from a half-court 1 on 1 game, because Curry wouldn't get those open looks from 30+ feet that he gets in transition. But the guy doesn't always need space to drill a jumper. And as good as Payton was defensively, he wasn't ever really an elite offensive player or shooter. I just don't think he keeps up with Steph trading twos for threes.

I agree Payton benefits from a 1 on 1 half court matchup. But in terms of him being elite offensively, please see 93-94 through 01-02. Hes elite at everything but the 3 ball. Not sure why you just said that

COOLbeans
05-16-2018, 04:26 PM
I understand Steph doesn't always need space but he's never been defended by anyone of GP's calibre. I honestly think he'd give him fits. He's arguably the best defensive PG ever.

GP wasn't an elite offensive player or shooter but he had a killer post up game. No way Steph would be able to defend GP in the post. Not a chance.

The absolute best defensive point guard. And extremely tough. Hes a tougher, more physical, smarter and bigger version of Patrick Beverly on steroids. And hes literally a master at playing mind games.

In terms of him being elite, for a small in the era he played he regularly shout about 50% or higher from 2. His 3 ball game is lacking but not necessary in a one on one with Steph since hed take him to the rack and post him up like you said.

Jeffy25
05-16-2018, 05:19 PM
I understand Steph doesn't always need space but he's never been defended by anyone of GP's calibre. I honestly think he'd give him fits. He's arguably the best defensive PG ever.

GP wasn't an elite offensive player or shooter but he had a killer post up game. No way Steph would be able to defend GP in the post. Not a chance.

That's true, and I don't know that Curry could create himself enough space to get shots off, and certainly wouldn't be able to board his own misses. Curry still needs picks and space, even if he is a master at creating his own space and can make insane shots.

Payton would just back him down and score easily because Curry could never guard that. And if it's make it take it, it's over. If you have to alternate possessions, maybe Curry can drive and step back enough to hit enough 3's to get there first (especially if scored by 1's and 2's where the 3 has a higher value).

Jeffy25
05-16-2018, 05:23 PM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett: Duncan has traditionally owned KG in head-to-head matchups.
Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson: Magic can't pass to himself, and Bird's shooting and size would make him tough to guard in a 1 on 1 matchup.
Shaq vs Hakeem: Shaq is more physically dominant, but I don't see him handling Hakeem's athleticism well 1 on 1. Whereas Shaq isn't going to confuse Hakeem, and Olajuwon's not exactly someone you can bulldoze.
Ewing vs Robinson: Slight edge to Robinson here. He was just the more athletic, physically dominant player in their primes offensively.
Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone: Karl Malone blows. Enough said.
Wade vs Dirk: Dirk's length and shooting would be tough for Wade to match up, but I can't see Dirk keeping up with Wade's athleticism.
Kobe vs Lebron: Lebron's size and ability to score from anywhere on the floor at a hyper-efficient pace would just be too much for Kobe. God this one would be fun to watch, though.
Kareem vs Wilt: I'd give a slight edge to Kareem here, as he was probably the more versatile scorer.
Durant vs Dr. J: This is the first one that strikes me as a legitimate mismatch. Durant's length and shooting would be impossible for Dr. J to match. And Durant's length would be a problem for Erving regardless of his athleticism.
Curry vs Payton: Another mismatch for me. Payton is an elite defender, but Curry is unguardable beyond the arc. Once he starts nailing 30-footers, this one would be over in a hurry. Payton doesn't have the scoring chops to keep up 1 on 1.

WE agreed on all but Wilt vs Kareem

And I can be talked into Kareem due to versatility, but I don't see Kareem actually bothering Wilt when he attacks the basket enough.

I may need to change my opinion on Curry vs Payton though. Johnson had some good points.

Rivera
05-16-2018, 05:25 PM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk - 7 footer v 6'4 guard like really? why this random matchup? because of the 2011 finals? dumb

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

JAZZNC
05-16-2018, 05:39 PM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett: Duncan has traditionally owned KG in head-to-head matchups.
Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson: Magic can't pass to himself, and Bird's shooting and size would make him tough to guard in a 1 on 1 matchup.
Shaq vs Hakeem: Shaq is more physically dominant, but I don't see him handling Hakeem's athleticism well 1 on 1. Whereas Shaq isn't going to confuse Hakeem, and Olajuwon's not exactly someone you can bulldoze.
Ewing vs Robinson: Slight edge to Robinson here. He was just the more athletic, physically dominant player in their primes offensively.
Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone: Karl Malone blows. Enough said.
Wade vs Dirk: Dirk's length and shooting would be tough for Wade to match up, but I can't see Dirk keeping up with Wade's athleticism.
Kobe vs Lebron: Lebron's size and ability to score from anywhere on the floor at a hyper-efficient pace would just be too much for Kobe. God this one would be fun to watch, though.
Kareem vs Wilt: I'd give a slight edge to Kareem here, as he was probably the more versatile scorer.
Durant vs Dr. J: This is the first one that strikes me as a legitimate mismatch. Durant's length and shooting would be impossible for Dr. J to match. And Durant's length would be a problem for Erving regardless of his athleticism.
Curry vs Payton: Another mismatch for me. Payton is an elite defender, but Curry is unguardable beyond the arc. Once he starts nailing 30-footers, this one would be over in a hurry. Payton doesn't have the scoring chops to keep up 1 on 1.

Your hatred of Malone runs so deep! I love it though. We all have players that we love to hate.

mightybosstone
05-16-2018, 06:36 PM
I agree Payton benefits from a 1 on 1 half court matchup. But in terms of him being elite offensively, please see 93-94 through 01-02. Hes elite at everything but the 3 ball. Not sure why you just said that

His best scoring season of his career (99-2000), he averaged 24.2 points per game on 20.3 shots with a super underwhelming 53.5% TS%. To put that into perspective, eight different guys topped that number in scoring this season, and all of them but Westbrook (who clearly had an off year) boasted far better efficiency numbers. I'm sorry, but the guy was a volume scorer with a career TS% of 52.8%.

And if he was a volume scorer putting up Kobe or Melo type scoring numbers, we could maybe talk about him being an elite scorer. But he wasn't, at least not historically. Within the context of a single year, you might call him elite, but historically he's not close. He was elite offensively as a creator for others, but not as a scorer.

JordansBulls
05-16-2018, 07:13 PM
Beat me to it. Who the hell plays a game up to 32? Are baskets worth 3 and 4 points?

This is how you play growing up with 2's and 3's. You must never have played basketball.

JordansBulls
05-16-2018, 07:14 PM
I put Payton vs Curry because in a one on one Payton would be all up on him. So I wonder how often Curry can get shots off on it.

Jeffy25
05-16-2018, 11:31 PM
His best scoring season of his career (99-2000), he averaged 24.2 points per game on 20.3 shots with a super underwhelming 53.5% TS%. To put that into perspective, eight different guys topped that number in scoring this season, and all of them but Westbrook (who clearly had an off year) boasted far better efficiency numbers. I'm sorry, but the guy was a volume scorer with a career TS% of 52.8%.

And if he was a volume scorer putting up Kobe or Melo type scoring numbers, we could maybe talk about him being an elite scorer. But he wasn't, at least not historically. Within the context of a single year, you might call him elite, but historically he's not close. He was elite offensively as a creator for others, but not as a scorer.

Malone had value in two ways.

Volume scoring (though, like you said, not efficient) and insane durability....he played a ton of years and minutes. So those counting stats really got up there.

goingfor28
05-16-2018, 11:47 PM
32? What a random *** number. What happened to 11 or 21?

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R. Johnson#3
05-17-2018, 05:50 AM
His best scoring season of his career (99-2000), he averaged 24.2 points per game on 20.3 shots with a super underwhelming 53.5% TS%. To put that into perspective, eight different guys topped that number in scoring this season, and all of them but Westbrook (who clearly had an off year) boasted far better efficiency numbers. I'm sorry, but the guy was a volume scorer with a career TS% of 52.8%.

And if he was a volume scorer putting up Kobe or Melo type scoring numbers, we could maybe talk about him being an elite scorer. But he wasn't, at least not historically. Within the context of a single year, you might call him elite, but historically he's not close. He was elite offensively as a creator for others, but not as a scorer.

I don't know what part of Gary Payton had killer post moves that you missed but Gary Payton had killer post moves. They're around the same height and weight but GP would easily body Steph and be able to slip around him or just overpower him. Considering it's 1v1 he could just do it over and over again.

Numbers don't really matter in this regard, especially TS% considering there's no FTs in 1v1. It's all about game. Steph is one of, if not the best PG ever at getting his own shot off but GP is the best defensive PG ever. With nobody else on the floor I'll take the guy who can play top notch defence who can also get close to the basket whenever he pleases.

KnicksorBust
05-17-2018, 06:18 AM
IDK, No one is history has played to 32

:laugh: x2

ewing
05-17-2018, 06:34 AM
This is how you play growing up with 2's and 3's. You must never have played basketball.

You play with ones or ones and twos. Are you from America?


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R. Johnson#3
05-17-2018, 08:04 AM
This is how you play growing up with 2's and 3's. You must never have played basketball.

People that play 2s and 3s are just shooters who are afraid to be touched. I still dont know where you got the 32 from lol.

NYKalltheway
05-17-2018, 08:28 AM
In every corner of the earth the games end at 11, 21, 31 etc... Sometimes may be with a round number liker 10 or 20. Never heard of 32 myself :D

Sanjay
06-04-2018, 02:39 AM
Who wins these games if playing one on one going to 32.

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton

Garnett (more athletic)
Bird
Shaq (too big lol)
Robinson (more athletic)
Malone
Wade (better defender/more athletic)
LeBron (too strong lol)
Wilt
Dr J
Payton (better defender)

tredigs
06-06-2018, 12:17 PM
Whoever is in better shape?

FlashBolt
06-07-2018, 03:02 AM
Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett

Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson

Shaq vs Hakeem

P.Ewing vs D.Robinson

Charles Barkley vs Karl Malone

Dwyane Wade vs Dirk

Kobe vs Lebron

Kareem vs Wilt

Durant vs Dr J

Steph Curry vs Gary Payton


1) KG
2) Larry
3) Shaq
4) D.Robinson
5) Barkley
6) Dirk
7) LeBron
8) Wilt
9) Durant
10) GP

FlashBolt
06-07-2018, 04:00 AM
I have never played a basketball game to 32. That's honestly the most ridiculous and random number. Depending on how tired/lopsided a game would be, it was usually 11, 16, or 21. If the game was going great, we'd go straight 25 but that was if it was a really really great game. I've never heard of playing with 2's and 3's. Always 1's or 2's (2's if we played to 21).

Anyways..

1) KG: I like KG's athleticism here. I know Tim Duncan clearly destroys KG in career but at their peak, I'd like to have KG because he was more versatile offensively and defensively. Since it's a 1-on-1, I gotta give it to the more athletic guy who was also more talented.
2) Larry: Larry was built for this.
3) Shaq: Size might be too much for Hakeem. What many people fail to mention about Hakeem's Rockets were during their championship run, Houston were taking the most threes to spread the floor for Hakeem. That simply was something the other elite centers didn't have. In a way, it benefitted Hakeem to a larger extent than it will ever get mentioned. I really want to pick Hakeem here but in my lifetime, I have never seen a player Shaq couldn't move out of the post when he wanted to.
4) D.Robinson. Ewing was tougher as a player but D.Robinson just brings more to the table offensively. Scoring champion/DPOY - something not many players have achieved.
5) Barkley. He's more of a brutish type player. Reminds me of mini-Shaq. Barkley's peak was just better. He's more mobile, has a higher motor, and was more skilled offensively. There was no one better than Barkley at getting to the FT line and he got there because he was simply unstoppable once he had the ball down in the low post. If Barkley doesn't shoot threes like Josh Smith, I think Barkley would simply be too much for Malone.
6) Dirk: Size is too much. Wade might have every other advantage in terms of speed and athleticism but there is zero chance Wade guards Dirk at the elbow and just about anywhere Dirk wants. Dirk can just zone Wade and force him to take a jumper. No ability to pass and ask for the ball again so Wade likely takes many forced shots when he's shut out from dribbling.
7) LeBron. Quite an easy answer but Lakers fans will be upset here.
8) Wilt. We saw an old Wilt doing fairly well vs KAJ so I would assume prime Wilt does far better.
9) Durant. Just more talented offensively and a bigger player. Though Dr.J was very strong, no chance he stops KD's length.
10) GP. For handchecking purposes, GP was the master at it. If we let handchecking, no chance in hell Steph wins this. People don't realize how masterful GP was with handchecking. He's the only PG to win DPOY for a reason. If he could bother MJ, he'd definitely give Steph a world of trouble. But the best part of GP's defense was not handchecking but his ability to always have his hands in the pocket. GP was my favorite player until Ray Allen came along. There was no one better at violating your dribbling space than GP. Steph would not be able to get a clean shot and a three pointer is simply ineffective in a 1-on-1 game. Couple that with his trashtalking? Man.. I know Steph is unstoppable but most of that mystique is based off a team game. In a 1-on-1, there is no Draymond setting high picks and no Klay to secure the other side of the court for a wide open three opportunity. It's you, the ball, the basket, and GP in front of you. Yes, GP was limited offensively but he was a problem in the low post for many defenders. Curry is not physical enough to stop GP from backing him down and GP was an absolute nightmare with his spin move in the low post. I don't see how Curry can handle that physicality, trashtalk, defense, and pressure from GP. IMO, if we are talking strictly 6'4 and below PG's, no one would beat CP3 IMO.